Re: outrageous

2001-04-23 Thread dave o'brien

A scroll of mail from petit miam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 19
Apr 2001 00:36:23 -0700 (PDT)
Read it? y
>You know I don't like all black cameras ;)

Yeah, it's that Hakka thing they do before taking pictures; it ruins
the element of surprise.

dave

ps: for Merkins and other non-rugby types, the Hakka is the Maori
ritual war dance performed by the New Zealand rugby team (the
All-Blacks) before every match.  It's very impressive and I've never
seen any other team do anything remotely comparable.
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RE: outrageous

2001-04-19 Thread petit miam

You know I don't like all black cameras ;)

> Hey, it's an "all black, professional grade camera".
>  Who could
> resist buying it?  Especially with that dedicated
> Vivitar flash.
> :-)
> 
> Len


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Re: outrageous

2001-04-18 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Yep, and they will buy a $5 item for $10 and pay a $15
shipping charge and tell you what a bargin they got.


Treena Harp wrote:
> 
> It is a never-ending source of amazement to me that people will go to garage
> sales and argue over a nickel's difference in the price of an object whose
> condition can be seen, and then go to ebay and pay a ridiculous price for an
> item -- sometimes more than new and virtually unseen -- because unless you
> know the seller, you really don't know until you get it if what you saw in
> the photo is what you got.
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Re: outrageous

2001-04-17 Thread Treena Harp

It is a never-ending source of amazement to me that people will go to garage
sales and argue over a nickel's difference in the price of an object whose
condition can be seen, and then go to ebay and pay a ridiculous price for an
item -- sometimes more than new and virtually unseen -- because unless you
know the seller, you really don't know until you get it if what you saw in
the photo is what you got.



> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
>
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1231060518
> >
> > Where do these folks find these buyers?  $265 BIN!
>
> But no one's bought it yet.  The first bid was for $9.95, not the BIN
> price.
>
> chris
>
>

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Re: outrageous

2001-04-17 Thread Chris Brogden

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1231060518
> 
> Where do these folks find these buyers?  $265 BIN!

But no one's bought it yet.  The first bid was for $9.95, not the BIN
price.

chris

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RE: outrageous eBay prices

2001-01-06 Thread Rob Studdert

On 6 Jan 2001, at 8:56, Len Paris wrote:

> A "miserable failure" is a bit strong in this case, don't you
> think?  I get the picture of hand wringing, tearing of hair, and
> much weeping and wailing after "miserable failures".  Somehow, I
> don't think these actions could be justified.
> 
> The worst it could be is no sale, which shouldn't be so
> miserable a failure unless you need the money to feed your
> family or to pay the rent.  If that's the case, don't give up
> your day job until your career as an eBay entrepreneur is well
> established. :-)
> 
> Keep things in perspective.  The lion's share of the risk is the
> buyer's.  The worst that can happen is nobody buys your item. As
> long as you think before you set your prices, and do your
> homework to determine the realistic value of your item, chances
> are you'll have a successful auction.
> 
> Having a good, honest item description, some clear pictures of
> the item, and pointing out any flaws, and their impact, are a
> must, as well.  Offering a money back guarantee for a reasonable
> period (5 or 10 days) doesn't hurt, either.  The buyer will have
> to ship the item back to you before you refund his money so,
> once again, the risk is mostly his.
> 
> Have I said anything unreasonable here?

Not at all, I was just reporting my experience gleaned after 300+ eBay 
auctions, I have a very good clearing rate and good feedback, before I started 
auctioning I watched other auctions and distilled what made them 
successful. I then tested several different methods of sale using similar 
equipment and noted the outcome which I mentioned before. Being a non-US 
seller, not trading in US$, shipping costs and delays and payment options 
put me behind the eight-ball as a seller however I am sure that I do better 
than many others seller due to my term and conditions and presentation, 
and I do not offer 5 to 10 days money back guarantee as any round trip will 
be far longer than this and currency conversion fees are astronomical in 
many cases. I just present an honest appraisal of the gear and ask that the 
buyers not bid should they have any reservations, easy.

Cheers,

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Re: outrageous eBay prices

2001-01-05 Thread Paul Jones

Picked up an Me Super a couple of weeks ago for $33 on ebay, with the meter
not working. Got it today, swapped the batteries around so the faced the
right way and it works perfectly :)

Could have easily gone the other way though.


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From: "John Mustarde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: outrageous eBay prices


> Yep, high prices sometimes occur, but lowball bidders like me are out
> there too. My last ME Super cost $55, and my SMC-F 70-210/f4-5.6 cost
> $54. Both were in excellent condition.
>
> Heck, I got a nearly new PZ1p, FA 28-105 powerzoom, Sigma AF 100-300
> zoom, and AF 500ftz flash  - and the whole set cost only $450. And
> another auction netted me a mint SMCP-A 50/1.2 for under a hundred
> bucks. So far, Ebay had been very very good to me.
>
> Black ME Supers sell for more than regular ones, but one list member
> had a difficult time selling his black model on ebay for a reasonable
> price for his last year.
>
> My point is to be sure to set the reserve you want. There are plenty
> of bargain hunters willing to place a low bid. The high bidders may or
> may not be around during your auction.
>
> texdance
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 00:26:01 -0600 (CST), you wrote:
>
> >
> >I'm thinking of putting a black ME Super with a 50/1.4 "M" up on eBay.
> >So I was checking out some of the prices that ME Supers have sold for
> >before.  I came across one chrome body in excellent condition that sold
> >for... no word of a lie... $280 US.  The description was excellent, and
he
> >made the lowly ME sound like a pretty phenomenal camera, and the ME Super
> >even better.  Wow... I'm impressed.
> >
> >chris
>
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Re: outrageous eBay prices

2001-01-05 Thread William Kane

Um,

   Just a thought . . . the high bidder has a 26 rating on eBay . . . so he's not a 
'newbie' to ebay . . . it's possible this guy is a 
collecter and saw an Excellent ME Super and couldn't resist?

Illinois Bill

1/5/01 1:33:24 PM, Chris Brogden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Just goes to show that PT Barnum was right, there is a sucker (err
>> customer) born every minute. Much as I love the ME, I would buy new
>> for that money, no 25+ year old camera is worth that much imho.
>> Onemust do their research before bidding. On the other hand may you
>> find this person's twin when you go to sell yours.
>
>That would be nice.  :)  I'm actually going to link my eBay ad to this
>guy's page just so potential bidders can see it.  I've never done that
>before, but I can't resist this time.  And if someone offered me an LX or
>an Asahiflex for $280, I'd jump at the chance.  Not too likely,
>though. 
>
>chris
>
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Re: outrageous eBay prices

2001-01-05 Thread John Francis

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/5/01 1:27:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> <<  thinking of putting a black ME Super with a 50/1.4 "M" up on eBay.
>  So I was checking out some of the prices that ME Supers have sold for
>  before.  I came across one chrome body in excellent condition that sold
>  for... no word of a lie... $280 US.  The description was excellent, and he
>  made the lowly ME sound like a pretty phenomenal camera, and the ME Super
>  even better.  Wow... I'm impressed.
> 
>  chris >>
> 
> Just goes to show that PT Barnum was right, there is a sucker (err
> customer) born every minute. Much as I love the ME, I would buy new for that
> money, no 25+ year old camera is worth that much imho. Onemust do their
> research before bidding. On the other hand may you find this person's twin
> when you go to sell yours.

If you review the bidding on this extreme example you'll find that
almost all the high bids come from two individuals (and most of the
other bidders are people with no eBay history, for that matter).

The sensible bids stop at either $120 or $165. Everything beyond that is
attributable to bidding frenzy (or even less charitable interpretations).

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Re: outrageous eBay prices

2001-01-05 Thread Robert P. VanNatta

occasional bidding wars to bring interesting results there.  Sometimes it
is the otherway also.   There are several high end lenses moving through
at the present time and they all look pretty cheap.  ---anything worth over
$500 is 'high end' on ebay.

Chris Brogden wrote:

> I'm thinking of putting a black ME Super with a 50/1.4 "M" up on eBay.
> So I was checking out some of the prices that ME Supers have sold for
> before.  I came across one chrome body in excellent condition that sold
> for... no word of a lie... $280 US.  The description was excellent, and he
> made the lowly ME sound like a pretty phenomenal camera, and the ME Super
> even better.  Wow... I'm impressed.
>
> chris
>
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Re: outrageous eBay prices

2001-01-05 Thread Mark Roberts

If you can find the ad to which you're referring, perhaps you could copy the text for 
all of us. I'm
sure there are people on this list who might want to sell a ME Super someday and would 
appreciate
the benefit of this guy's salesmanship!

>
>I'm thinking of putting a black ME Super with a 50/1.4 "M" up on eBay.  
>So I was checking out some of the prices that ME Supers have sold for
>before.  I came across one chrome body in excellent condition that sold
>for... no word of a lie... $280 US.  The description was excellent, and he
>made the lowly ME sound like a pretty phenomenal camera, and the ME Super
>even better.  Wow... I'm impressed.
>
>chris
>
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