Re: Vivitar Flashes
Ouch, might as well stick a paperclip in a power-point. > > That sounds quite conservative. > > Some flashes have trigger voltages of 150V and up. > > I have one that triggers at 240V. > > TTYL, DougF __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Flashes
I got knocked on my butt when I touched the frayed power cord of my Honeywell Strobonar 882 with wet hands. It uses that 500+ volt Eveready 497 battery, but I don't know what the trigger voltage is. I generally use the old Honeywell potato masher only with my Mamiya C220 or as a slave, but I've been wondering if it can be used with the LX. Paul "David A. Mann" wrote: > > Jeff Tokayer writes: > > > That sounds quite conservative. > > Some flashes have trigger voltages of 150V and up. > > Yes, I'd consider 40 volts to be pretty safe provided its dry :) > > I've had a few minor tingles off 50V DC with sweaty hands but I don't think > I've ever felt 40V. I keep the hell clear of the 420V DC in the gear we make > at work :) > > Cheers, > > - Dave > > David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) > http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ > > "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, > while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Flashes
Jeff Tokayer writes: > That sounds quite conservative. > Some flashes have trigger voltages of 150V and up. Yes, I'd consider 40 volts to be pretty safe provided its dry :) I've had a few minor tingles off 50V DC with sweaty hands but I don't think I've ever felt 40V. I keep the hell clear of the 420V DC in the gear we make at work :) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Flashes
I've seen as high as 600V. Most are about 150V. Don't have to worry about it as long as you don't complete the circuit between the contacts. Todd At 11:51 PM 4/28/01 -0400, you wrote: >On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:46:13 -0400, Jeff Tokayer wrote: > >> That sounds quite conservative. >> Some flashes have trigger voltages of 150V and up. > >I have one that triggers at 240V. > >TTYL, DougF > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Flashes
Make sure you ground the flash before using it (?) Jeff - Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 11:51 PM Subject: Re: Vivitar Flashes > On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:46:13 -0400, Jeff Tokayer wrote: > > > That sounds quite conservative. > > Some flashes have trigger voltages of 150V and up. > > I have one that triggers at 240V. > > TTYL, DougF > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Flashes
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:46:13 -0400, Jeff Tokayer wrote: > That sounds quite conservative. > Some flashes have trigger voltages of 150V and up. I have one that triggers at 240V. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Flashes
Whenever the question of high voltage older flashes comes up, I always like sharing this story: Once while photographing my high school bonfire in the rain with an SPII and Vivitar 2500 Thyristor flash, I got halfway through the roll, a little soggy, and suddenly I got a nasty jolt of electricity when I snapped the shutter - strong enough to make me drop the camera. Later I measured the trigger voltage on the flash at 40V. Ouch! Cheers, Gerald - Original Message - From: "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: RE: Vivitar Flashes > Nope, not me. But I know better than to use old flash units with > modern electronic cameras without either testing them or using a > Wein flash isolator. There are some monolights that will do a > job on your electronic cameras too. If you think it's just an > urban legend, and you've never measured the trigger voltage on > an old electronic flash unit, you could be in for an unpleasant > surprise in the future. > > Len > --- > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Lewis, Gerald > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:02 PM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: Vivitar Flashes > > > > > > I know that this was written up in Pop Photo a > > coupole of years ago, but has > > anyone ever really had their IC fried using an older > > strobe? Is the any > > VERIFIABLE instance of this happening? Last I read > > about it was that it was > > an urban legend, The phenomenon is real, but that the > > supposed effect has > > never been seen and that it is just the paranoid who > > are afraid of it. > > > > Jerry in Houston > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vivitar Flashes
Thanks, Ken. I'd hate to see someone make a mistake and damage their camera. Len --- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Archer > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Vivitar Flashes > > > That pretty much says it a. > > Len Paris wrote: > > > > Here's a URL for info on flash trigger voltages. I > believe that > > this is a very reliable source. You can read this > and decide for > > yourself. > > > > http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/mf/flash.html > > > > Len > > --- > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the > directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Flashes
That pretty much says it a. Len Paris wrote: > > Here's a URL for info on flash trigger voltages. I believe that > this is a very reliable source. You can read this and decide for > yourself. > > http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/mf/flash.html > > Len > --- > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vivitar Flashes
Hi Jerry, On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:02:29 -0600, Lewis, Gerald wrote: > I know that this was written up in Pop Photo a coupole of years ago, but has > anyone ever really had their IC fried using an older strobe? Is the any > VERIFIABLE instance of this happening? I've never had my camera fry, but I've had problems. I have two really old flashes (no-name brands) that I originally used with my K-1000 and they worked just fine. When I got the ZX-5, I tried them on it. One had a trigger voltage of around 125VDC and the other was about 240VDC (both at full charge). When I tripped the shutter, the camera locked up. I had to remove the battery to do a "hard" reset on the internal circuitry to get the camera to work again. TTYL, DougF PS. There's a post from me from a year or two ago with more details, if the PDML archives are on-line again. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vivitar Flashes
Here's a URL for info on flash trigger voltages. I believe that this is a very reliable source. You can read this and decide for yourself. http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/mf/flash.html Len --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vivitar Flashes
Nope, not me. But I know better than to use old flash units with modern electronic cameras without either testing them or using a Wein flash isolator. There are some monolights that will do a job on your electronic cameras too. If you think it's just an urban legend, and you've never measured the trigger voltage on an old electronic flash unit, you could be in for an unpleasant surprise in the future. Len --- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Lewis, Gerald > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 3:02 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Vivitar Flashes > > > I know that this was written up in Pop Photo a > coupole of years ago, but has > anyone ever really had their IC fried using an older > strobe? Is the any > VERIFIABLE instance of this happening? Last I read > about it was that it was > an urban legend, The phenomenon is real, but that the > supposed effect has > never been seen and that it is just the paranoid who > are afraid of it. > > Jerry in Houston - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Flashes
e-mail Vivitar. They will tell you whether it can be used safely on your Pentax. Web site is www.vivitar.com/ Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club Newsletter Editor & EAA TC www.bellanca-championclub.com - Original Message - From: "B. K. Lane Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: RE: Vivitar Flashes > At 10:17 AM 4/19/01 -0700, you wrote: > >The Vivitar 285HV is a workhorse of a flash. The 283, if one of the older > >models, could fry some modern cameras. > > Len, > Could you please explain why it could fry some modern cameras? > I dont want to get anything that would damage what I already have. > Also I have been looking at a Vivitar 550, how does this one > compare to the 285HV and 283? > > Thanks for ya'lls help, > Rebecca > > NetZero Platinum > No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access > Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! > http://www.netzero.net > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vs: Vs: Vivitar Flashes
Thanks everyone for helping me, I dont think I will be looking at the 283. I am in no hurry to rush out and nab something that may damage the camera I have. What I am looking for though is something that will shoot in manual mode, with a fast recycle time and a nice shooting distance. I have the ZX50, so if anyone has some ideas please send em this way. Thanks, Rebecca NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vivitar Flashes
At 10:17 AM 4/19/01 -0700, you wrote: >The Vivitar 285HV is a workhorse of a flash. The 283, if one of the older >models, could fry some modern cameras. Len, Could you please explain why it could fry some modern cameras? I dont want to get anything that would damage what I already have. Also I have been looking at a Vivitar 550, how does this one compare to the 285HV and 283? Thanks for ya'lls help, Rebecca NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Vs: Vivitar Flashes
I have used my old Made in Japan 283 with LX, ME Super and ME with no ill effects (and they are not modern electronic cameras) but I do not dare to use it with MZ-5n. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Ken Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 20. huhtikuuta 2001 1:42 Aihe: Re: Vs: Vivitar Flashes >I have one new 283 and three old (made in Japan) 283s. The three old >ones sure make good slaves. BTW what is considered a "modern electronic >camera". Everything I have is a ME Super, K1000 or Spotmatics. Any >danger in using one of the old 283s as a backup? > >Raimo Korhonen wrote: >> >> Yep - it is the Made in Japan versions which have too high trigger voltage. Newer >versions are safe. >> All the best! >> Raimo >> Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen >> >> -Alkuperäinen viesti- >> Lähettäjä: Ray Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Päivä: 19. huhtikuuta 2001 23:27 >> Aihe: Re: Vivitar Flashes >> >> >I remember reading something on the internet (maybe on this site) about the >> >"discharge voltage" on the V283 flash units being too high for modern >> >electronic cameras. SOMETHING ABOUT FRYING THE CAMERA. SOUNDED SERIOUS. >> > >> >But, I also vaguely remember reading that it is only the oldest models of >> >V283 (maybe 285 too). >> > >> >Finally, I remember reading that Vivitar Tech Support can tell by serial >> >number (and/or country of manufacture) whether the unit is to be 'feared' or >> >not. >> > >> >- Ray >> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Flashes
I have and use the 285HV. Its a great machine, but it is definitely a beast. It even dwarfs my less than small KX, and makes my superprogram look like a toy. I like the auto capablities and the "calculator dial" on the side which keeps you from having to fumble around in your head with f-numbers and ISO and distance and stuff. brent - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vs: Vivitar Flashes
I have one new 283 and three old (made in Japan) 283s. The three old ones sure make good slaves. BTW what is considered a "modern electronic camera". Everything I have is a ME Super, K1000 or Spotmatics. Any danger in using one of the old 283s as a backup? Raimo Korhonen wrote: > > Yep - it is the Made in Japan versions which have too high trigger voltage. Newer >versions are safe. > All the best! > Raimo > Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen > > -Alkuperäinen viesti- > Lähettäjä: Ray Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Päivä: 19. huhtikuuta 2001 23:27 > Aihe: Re: Vivitar Flashes > > >I remember reading something on the internet (maybe on this site) about the > >"discharge voltage" on the V283 flash units being too high for modern > >electronic cameras. SOMETHING ABOUT FRYING THE CAMERA. SOUNDED SERIOUS. > > > >But, I also vaguely remember reading that it is only the oldest models of > >V283 (maybe 285 too). > > > >Finally, I remember reading that Vivitar Tech Support can tell by serial > >number (and/or country of manufacture) whether the unit is to be 'feared' or > >not. > > > >- Ray > >_ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > >- > >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Vivitar Flashes
Yep - it is the Made in Japan versions which have too high trigger voltage. Newer versions are safe. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Ray Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 19. huhtikuuta 2001 23:27 Aihe: Re: Vivitar Flashes >I remember reading something on the internet (maybe on this site) about the >"discharge voltage" on the V283 flash units being too high for modern >electronic cameras. SOMETHING ABOUT FRYING THE CAMERA. SOUNDED SERIOUS. > >But, I also vaguely remember reading that it is only the oldest models of >V283 (maybe 285 too). > >Finally, I remember reading that Vivitar Tech Support can tell by serial >number (and/or country of manufacture) whether the unit is to be 'feared' or >not. > >- Ray >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Vivitar Flashes
I remember reading something on the internet (maybe on this site) about the "discharge voltage" on the V283 flash units being too high for modern electronic cameras. SOMETHING ABOUT FRYING THE CAMERA. SOUNDED SERIOUS. But, I also vaguely remember reading that it is only the oldest models of V283 (maybe 285 too). Finally, I remember reading that Vivitar Tech Support can tell by serial number (and/or country of manufacture) whether the unit is to be 'feared' or not. - Ray _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Vivitar Flashes
The Vivitar 285HV is a workhorse of a flash. The 283, if one of the older models, could fry some modern cameras. I'd pass on the 283 and if the 285HV is in good condition, with a decent price, it will serve you well. Just go to KEH and some other used equipment sites (Cameta Camera comes to mind) to get a good feel for the retail selling price so you don't end up paying more than you should. Len --- > -Original Message- > From: B. K. Lane Sr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Vivitar Flashes > > > Hi, > > I have been looking at flashes on ebay for a couple > of days now. There seems to be alot of VIVITAR 285HV > and the VIVITAR 283 model. > > Are these models pretty good? > > Thanks, > Rebecca > > NetZero Platinum > No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access > Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! > http://www.netzero.net > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vivitar Flashes
Hi, I have been looking at flashes on ebay for a couple of days now. There seems to be alot of VIVITAR 285HV and the VIVITAR 283 model. Are these models pretty good? Thanks, Rebecca NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
