Re: Which Ricoh Program body? (was: Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?)

2002-05-06 Thread Nitin Garg

On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:13:33PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'll reply in all caps, point by point:
> 
> Nitin Garg wrote:
> 
>  Built in winder on xr-m (+ for me, - for paul. he prefers to attach winder 
> if needed). 
> 
> YEP. YOU CAN THUS SEE THE WIND LEVER MOVING, FOR REASSURANCE. AND YOU
> CAN CHOOSE TO ADD A BATTERY-LADEN MOTOR, FOR HEFT, OR SIMPLY USE THE
> FEATHERWEIGHT GRIP, WITH ITS EXCELLENT AUXIILIARY SHUTTER RELEASE.

that is true :) At times i do wish the xr-m weighed like the xr-p :)

> 
> spot-metering in xr-m. not in xr-p. xr-m also has backlight compensation but 
> thats usually better done yourself. 
> 
> THESE AND OTHER XR-M/XR-X FEATURES ARE ALSO FOUND ON THE XR-M'S
> REPLACEMENT, THE XRX-3P. ALSO, THESE TWO MODELS, UNLIKE THE XR-P, SHOW
> YOU THE SHUTTER SPEED ON A TOP-PANEL LCD. 

xr-x3p is a little more harder to obtain than xr-m and is not as cheap.
Which is why i dont have it :)

> 
> The caveat ofcourse is getting program lenses (ricoh P lenses) is not 
> easy. 
> 
> TRUE, BUT ONCE YOU HAVE IT, YOU HAVE IT. THE 50/2 IS A FINE LENS AND
> WIDELY AVAILABLE IN P, THOUGH IT WAS NEVER MULTICOATED. THE P 50/1.4
> IS SCARCER THAN A PENTAX 50/1.2; I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE FOR SALE IN THREE
> MONTHS OF LOOKING.

You didnt look well enough :) I got mine less than 3 months ago. Pentax
50/1.2 doesnt seem scarce. KEH has 3 of them listed.

> 
> CONCLUSION: ALL PROGRAM RICOHS OFFER TTL FLASH AND EASY VERTICAL
> SHOOTING. IF YOU LIKE THE CLASSIC CAMERA FEEL AND OPERATION OR MUST
> HAVE THE APERTURE WINDOW, GET THE XR-P. IF YOU PREFER MODERN
> AMENITIES, SKIP THE XR-M/XR-X AND GO FOR AN XR-X 3P. IT ADDS A 1/3000
> SECOND SHUTTER AND A BUILT-IN FLASH WITH 28MM COVERAGE AND EXCELLENT
> (EASY) TTL FLASH FILL.

Theres one on ebay right now 
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Which Ricoh Program body? (was: Re: Exposure Lock on ME Super?)

2002-05-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'll reply in all caps, point by point:

Nitin Garg wrote:

The 2 that I have experience with are xr-p and xr-m. Paul has used xr-p 
too and has given it favourable review here. 

ACTUALLY, I BROKE IT BEFORE I COULD USE IT. I STILL HAVEN'T FIRED A SHOT WITH A RICOH, 
SO MY OPINIONS ARE BASED ON SPECS, FEEL, REVIEWS, AND ONLINE COMMENTS I'VE SEEN.

He found it to have a less 
vibration compared to his Super A (wrong model?). 

UNQUESTIONABLY. AND LESS THAN THE XR-2S.

Our comparitive points 
about the 2 are: 

+ Bright viewfinder and 0.88x mag for xr-p (.80 for M).

THE BRIGHT FINDER WAS INTRODUCED ON THE XR-P (AND XR-10 AND 7, MAYBE) AND CONTINUED ON 
THE SUBSEQUENT PROGRAM MODELS: XR-X (XR-M IN USA), XR-3000 (A BUDGET MODEL), AND 
XRX-3P (THE FINAL HIGH-END MODEL). BUT THE XR-P WAS THE LAST TO USE THE 0.88X 
MAGNIFICATION; AFTER THAT, ALL USED, I THINK, 0.82X.
 
 Built in winder on xr-m (+ for me, - for paul. he prefers to attach winder 
if needed). 

YEP. YOU CAN THUS SEE THE WIND LEVER MOVING, FOR REASSURANCE. AND YOU CAN CHOOSE TO 
ADD A BATTERY-LADEN MOTOR, FOR HEFT, OR SIMPLY USE THE FEATHERWEIGHT GRIP, WITH ITS 
EXCELLENT AUXIILIARY SHUTTER RELEASE.

spot-metering in xr-m. not in xr-p. xr-m also has backlight compensation but 
thats usually better done yourself. 

THESE AND OTHER XR-M/XR-X FEATURES ARE ALSO FOUND ON THE XR-M'S REPLACEMENT, THE 
XRX-3P. ALSO, THESE TWO MODELS, UNLIKE THE XR-P, SHOW YOU THE SHUTTER SPEED ON A 
TOP-PANEL LCD. 

BUT AMONG RICOH PROGRAM BODIES, ONLY THE XR-P SHOWS YOU THE APERTURE IN A WINDOW IN 
THE VIEWFINDER.

The caveat ofcourse is getting program lenses (ricoh P lenses) is not 
easy. 

TRUE, BUT ONCE YOU HAVE IT, YOU HAVE IT. THE 50/2 IS A FINE LENS AND WIDELY AVAILABLE 
IN P, THOUGH IT WAS NEVER MULTICOATED. THE P 50/1.4 IS SCARCER THAN A PENTAX 50/1.2; 
I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE FOR SALE IN THREE MONTHS OF LOOKING.

One could try to make their pentax-a lenses into AP lenses :) or 
use 3rd party ones. 
YES, MANY THIRD-PARTY LENSES, ESPECIALLY VIVITAR'S, INCLUDE PROGRAM CONTACTS FOR 
PENTAX AND RICOH.

If the trend continues, soon I will not qualify to submit anything to PUG :) 

FEWER THAN HALF OF MY LENSES ARE NOW PENTAX, AND SOON THAT NUMBER WILL BE A THIRD. 
MIXING AND MATCHING IS ALL PART OF THE K-MOUNT ADVANTAGE.

CONCLUSION: ALL PROGRAM RICOHS OFFER TTL FLASH AND EASY VERTICAL SHOOTING. IF YOU LIKE 
THE CLASSIC CAMERA FEEL AND OPERATION OR MUST HAVE THE APERTURE WINDOW, GET THE XR-P. 
IF YOU PREFER MODERN AMENITIES, SKIP THE XR-M/XR-X AND GO FOR AN XR-X 3P. IT ADDS A 
1/3000 SECOND SHUTTER AND A BUILT-IN FLASH WITH 28MM COVERAGE AND EXCELLENT (EASY) TTL 
FLASH FILL.

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