Re: PESO -- PDML Bird just after expressing opinion of Canon wide angle lenses.
What Ann said. :-) J - Original Message - From: "P.J. Alling" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 3:53:42 PM Subject: PESO -- PDML Bird just after expressing opinion of Canon wide angle lenses. Actually Canon has some pretty good wide angle lenses these days, but they more or less took over the pro and amateur SLR camera markets without a decent wide angle lens to their name. That's the explanation for the cropping on this photo however, I leave it to the reader to figure out why. To paraphrase Maxwell Smart, I missed the decisive moment by that much. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20pdmlbird.html Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0 and F 1.7x AF adapter. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- PDML Bird just after expressing opinion of Canon wide angle lenses.
LOL! ann On 9/5/2016 6:53 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Actually Canon has some pretty good wide angle lenses these days, but they more or less took over the pro and amateur SLR camera markets without a decent wide angle lens to their name. That's the explanation for the cropping on this photo however, I leave it to the reader to figure out why. To paraphrase Maxwell Smart, I missed the decisive moment by that much. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20pdmlbird.html Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0 and F 1.7x AF adapter. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- PDML Bird just after expressing opinion of Canon wide angle lenses.
Actually Canon has some pretty good wide angle lenses these days, but they more or less took over the pro and amateur SLR camera markets without a decent wide angle lens to their name. That's the explanation for the cropping on this photo however, I leave it to the reader to figure out why. To paraphrase Maxwell Smart, I missed the decisive moment by that much. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20pdmlbird.html Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0 and F 1.7x AF adapter. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Any compact digitals with wide-angle lenses?
Hi, >> I am entirely unfamiliar with the digital camera market. Does anybody >> have any suggestions, please, for something like that - probably a >> p&s - that's cheap and can produce reasonable quality prints (when required) >> up to about 4x6" (10x15cm). > You can get the recently discontinued versions of the Optio series > remarkably cheaply (compared to their new price) at various outlets. > Although the cost may appear excessive (~£200 for 3Mp) at first, it at > least allows for the possibility that some shots might be qualitatively > good enough to be keepers. Thanks to everybody who helped with my question. I bought a 2mp Nikon Coolscan 2200, which was very cheap and seems to do what's needed. It has a decent little zoom, is small, light and easy to operate. I took 31 pictures with it this afternoon, in rather flat, dull light - the sun went in when I walked out of the camera shop! It's very different from using a manual film SLR. Framing is different; I have to get used to autofocus; the lens is very slow and the sensitivity of the camera is the equivalent of ISO 50, so it's very slow too; and the shutter lag is not what I'm used to. Nevertheless, it was enjoyable to use and should serve its purpose very well. Here are some snaps, resized and sharpened with Irfan, otherwise straight from the Nikon's mouth: http://www.web-options.com/AES/p006.jpg http://www.web-options.com/AES/p009.jpg http://www.web-options.com/AES/p014.jpg http://www.web-options.com/AES/p024.jpg http://www.web-options.com/AES/p029.jpg http://www.web-options.com/AES/p030.jpg -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Any compact digitals with wide-angle lenses?
On 19 Jun 2004 at 0:32, Bob W wrote: > that sounds like a good idea. I will have a look around. Are 3 > megapixels generally considered a reasonable number? Are 2Mp or 2.5Mp > too few? A 2MP camera will allow 4"x6" prints to be made at almost 300dpi, which is far better than most printers can manage. And if you would like to print the occasional 8"x12" print then a 2MP camera would still deliver a reasonable 150dpi. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Any compact digitals with wide-angle lenses?
Hi, > You can get the recently discontinued versions of the Optio series > remarkably cheaply (compared to their new price) at various outlets. > Although the cost may appear excessive (~£200 for 3Mp) at first, it at > least allows for the possibility that some shots might be qualitatively > good enough to be keepers. that sounds like a good idea. I will have a look around. Are 3 megapixels generally considered a reasonable number? Are 2Mp or 2.5Mp too few? -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Any compact digitals with wide-angle lenses?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:57:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Chaso DeChaso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Any compact digitals with wide-angle lenses? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Are there any compact digital point-and-shoots that have a wide-angle lens? It seems most are around 35-to-something or 38-to-something, equivalent. Ricoh have also recently released the 5Mpx GX, with a 28-85 equiv lens. With the low shutter lag, aperture priority/manual exposure, and even spotmetering, I am thinking about getting one myself. I have the very nice GR1s film compact, and I have to say that 28mm is one of the sharpest lenses in my collection. So I have great faith in their GR lenses. http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_1287.html D
Re: Any compact digitals with wide-angle lenses?
Hi, Bob W wrote: I am entirely unfamiliar with the digital camera market. Does anybody have any suggestions, please, for something like that - probably a p&s - that's cheap and can produce reasonable quality prints (when required) up to about 4x6" (10x15cm). You can get the recently discontinued versions of the Optio series remarkably cheaply (compared to their new price) at various outlets. Although the cost may appear excessive (~£200 for 3Mp) at first, it at least allows for the possibility that some shots might be qualitatively good enough to be keepers. mike
Re: Any compact digitals with wide-angle lenses?
My wife had me look for one several months ago. I was surprised to find that the last compact/pocket digital that went as wide as 28mm was the 1.3MP Canon PowerShot A50, which was introduced 5 or 6 years ago. The Ricoh G4 Wide had also recently been annnounced at the time, but with no plans to sell it here in the USA. The press release for the G4 Wide mentioned a predecessor model that was just as wide, but all I ever found on that earlier model was variations on the press release. I found an A50 on eBay for about $50. The shutter response is glacial by today's standards (even after pressing the shutter button halfway), and 4x6 prints were just okay. My wife is okay with it, but maybe she'll try the Ricoh G4 Wide sometime. Looks like it's available from Australia for AU $466 (US $321): http://www.sydneyshopping.com.au/product_detail.php?pID=472 Also there are two G4 Wides on eBay right now for US $259.99. Greg > Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:57:16 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chaso DeChaso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Any compact digitals with wide-angle lenses? > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Are there any compact digital point-and-shoots that > have a wide-angle lens? It seems most are around > 35-to-something or 38-to-something, equivalent. > > I use film for my hobby but I need a camera for job > sites because my boss wants immediate turn-around. (I > need to have stuff on a drive immediately...so that he > can look at it a week later - it's the usual false > perception that speed is oh-so important. I have to > draw the line somewhere, so I'll get a digital compact > for work but I am refusing to buy a cell phone. > Geeze, I'm grumpy today.) > > Chaso
re: Any compact digitals with wide-angle lenses?
Ricoh Caplio Wide (28mm). Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: alex wetmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. juni 2004 19:21 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Any compact digitals with wide-angle lenses? On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Chaso DeChaso wrote: > Are there any compact digital point-and-shoots that > have a wide-angle lens? It seems most are around > 35-to-something or 38-to-something, equivalent. How compact? Nikon's 5000 had a 28mm equivelent lens. I don't know what the followup model is called (5400 maybe?), but I think it has the same lens. I haven't found any pocketable digital compacts with a 28mm wide angle lens since my old (and sadly now dead) Canon Powershot from many years ago. That was a 1.3mp camera though and very limited compared to modern models. alex
Re: Any compact digitals with wide-angle lenses?
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Chaso DeChaso wrote: > Are there any compact digital point-and-shoots that > have a wide-angle lens? It seems most are around > 35-to-something or 38-to-something, equivalent. How compact? Nikon's 5000 had a 28mm equivelent lens. I don't know what the followup model is called (5400 maybe?), but I think it has the same lens. I haven't found any pocketable digital compacts with a 28mm wide angle lens since my old (and sadly now dead) Canon Powershot from many years ago. That was a 1.3mp camera though and very limited compared to modern models. alex
RE: Wide angle lenses
Hi, Taka. I use it in LX and ME Super with great results. The manual focus feeling is better than most af lenses but not up to the feeling of a real manual focus lens. It's excellently constructed, feels nice and it's not expensive for what it gives. It's the price you pay for a 1 stop slower used lens. BUY IT Albano Can anyone w/ experience w/ this lens tell me whether it is difficult to use in MF mode or not? 24mm f2.0 IF SMCP-FA Thanks, Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: RE: Wide angle lenses
There's a reason why the older lenses come at a premium. They are much nicer to use than the new ones, especially in MF. Think about that. Ten years from now, I'll bet the manual focus will be worth more than you are paying for it. The autofocus lens, though nice right now, will likely be in pieces. Just my opinion... In a message dated 5/1/02 3:48:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: <> - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wide angle lenses
>The only new lens I can find wider than 28mm that isn't >really expensive is the 24mm f2.0 SMCP-FA IF lens that >B&H sells for $350. > >Any experience w/ this lens? I'll be using it on a MF >camera (Super A, Super Program), so if the focus ring has >a super-short travel, I'm in trouble. A good lens for both AF and MF. Buy it now. :) regards, Alan Chan _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wide Angle lenses
If you're worried about a 24/2 being a brick, I don't think that you want a F5. The thing to remember about used Nikon equipment is that although there is a great deal out there, it's not cheap. However, there are many lenses which are rare for Pentax and common for Nikon, and these are quite a bit cheaper than Pentaxes (I can't believe the prices for 85/1.8 & 105/2.8 Pentax lenses. Nikon 85/1.8 & 105/2.5's can be had for under $200.) BTW, the A24/2.8 is just about the same size and weight as a 50/1.4; it's also very good. From: "TM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ron- Thanks. Money is definitely a consideration in this whole thing- sorry to say, but if it were not a consideration, I'd have a bunch of Nikons- FM-3, F5, F100 and a ton of lenses. Heresy, I know, but the much greater availability of Nikon equipment, especially for rental makes it possible to use a 300mm f2.8 for a weekend, if I really need one. :-) I don't have any AF bodies, but I may get one in the future- the ZX-5n looks really nice. Size and weight are relatively unimportant- the FA24/2.0 isn't a huge brick, is it? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wide angle lenses
- Original Message - From: William Robb Subject: Re: Wide angle lenses > - Original Message - > From: TM > Subject: Wide angle lenses > > > > Hi all- > > What do you all recommend for a good wide-angle lens? > > KEH is listing 3 24mm f/2.8 SMC lenses right now. > I presume this would be the K lens. I read your later post about this very thing a few minutes after sending this missive. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wide angle lenses
>Hmm- not familiar w/ the 25mm. Is that a typo or is it really a 25mm? It may be both... It is indeed a 25mm. An A lens was measured at 25,16mm (#5 212 xxx) A K one at 24,85mm (#7 535 xxx) Cheers, Andre >Taka > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of T Rittenhouse >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:10 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Wide angle lenses > > >Taka, > >Would you be interested in a very clean SMC Pentax 25mm f2.8 for $200 + >$10 ssh? It works perfectly, glass is perfect, looks almost like new, >but has generic lens caps. > >Ciao, >Graywolf >http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto > > > >- Original Message - >From: TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:03 PM >Subject: RE: Wide angle lenses > > >> Considering the comments on the site you linked, it sounds like the >> new 24mm f2.0 is the best out of the 24mm lenses. It's only a $40 >> difference and the new lens is, of course, brand new. >> >> Taka >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nitin Garg >> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:15 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: Wide angle lenses >> >> >> "http://www.concentric.net/~Smhalpin/BriefComments.html#24 mm f/2.0 >> FA* AL(IF)" >> >> If you planning to use it on mf cameras, i would say get dont pay for >> the af and get a lens not built with mf cameras in mind. >> >> smc 24mm lens turns up on ebay now and then (keh has them for >> 265-310). >> >> On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 02:01:39PM -0400, TM wrote: >> > Hi all- >> > What do you all recommend for a good wide-angle lens? >> > >> > The only new lens I can find wider than 28mm that isn't really >> > expensive is the 24mm f2.0 SMCP-FA IF lens that B&H sells for $350. >> > >> > Any experience w/ this lens? I'll be using it on a MF camera (Super >> > A, Super Program), so if the focus ring has a super-short travel, >> > I'm in trouble. >> > >> > Taka >> > - >> > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >> > go >> >> > to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >> > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >> - >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go > >> to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >> - >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go > >> to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go >to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit >the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wide angle lenses
On 1 May 2002 at 15:33, TM wrote: > Can anyone w/ experience w/ this lens tell me whether it is difficult to > use in MF mode or not? > > 24mm f2.0 IF SMCP-FA I have both the A24f2.8 and several FA24f2 lenses (don't ask), what I have found is that the feel of the manual focus on the clutch ring of the FA lenses varies significantly as they wear so it hard to be absolute about it. In other words some have a relatively precise focus feel and more worn/used units have exhibited problems such that the clutch loses grip and the ring has to be turned further than would normally be required. I can state absolutely that the tactile response of the manual focus lens is superb and that although it might not be quite as good a performer as the FA lens. It is still no slouch and is very sharp and contrasty stopped down a little and is a good performer wide open. It also provides the added benefits of being very compact and a little lighter, plus it's black :-) If you are buying used the hood is mostly included with the FA lenses whereas I've never seen a hood sold with a K or KA 24mm and it took me a long time to track down the rectangular Pentax one. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wide angle lenses
>Would you be interested in a very clean SMC Pentax 25mm f2.8 for $200 + $10 >ssh? It works perfectly, glass is perfect, looks almost like new, but has >generic lens caps. > >Ciao, >Graywolf 25mm... a typo or an opportune mention of the real focal lenght..? Andre -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wide angle lenses
Same here Paul. Vice versa, I've found using MF lens on AF body "cognitive dissonance" (LOL, may I borrow this phrase ;-). For example, I was using my SMC Pentax-M 100mm f/2.8 and my Pentax-F 24-50mm f/4 zoom combo for while. After a while, I gave up on using the 100mm because I found it much slower to get focus right than on my old split-image/microprism screen of my ancient MX! Call it the "idiot-light" focusing if you will :-(. Also, those old MF lenses (M or A) annoyingly fail to show the aperture settings in the viewfinder (in aperture priority AE and manual) on the AF bodies :-(, something I've gotten totally spoiled since the MX ;-). Ron B[ee] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Wide angle lenses Optically, the 24/2 wins. But some of us find that using an AF lens on a manual-focus body gives us cognitive dissonance. It just doesn't "feel" right. Taka wrote: Considering the comments on the site you linked, it sounds like the new 24mm f2.0 is the best out of the 24mm lenses. ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wide angle lenses
http://home.att.net/~alnem/html/3rdpartyprime.html i got the vivitar 19/3.8 recently too. Will use it soon:) On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 04:14:20PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Unfortunately, I can't speak to the 24mm as the widest I currently have is a 28mm. > > I am awaiting delivery of a 19mm prime Vivitar f3.8 lens though. I don't need the >speed of the 24mm (or the auto focus for that matter) and the used Vivitar cost me a >lot less than half the B&H price that you quote for the 24mm and offers a wider field >of view. > > I'll report once I get it. > > Cheers, > Dave > > Hi all- > What do you all recommend for a good wide-angle lens? > > The only new lens I can find wider than 28mm that isn't > really expensive is the 24mm f2.0 SMCP-FA IF lens that > B&H sells for $350. > > Any experience w/ this lens? I'll be using it on a MF > camera (Super A, Super Program), so if the focus ring has > a super-short travel, I'm in trouble. > > Taka > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wide angle lenses
Optically, the 24/2 wins. But some of us find that using an AF lens on a manual-focus body gives us cognitive dissonance. It just doesn't "feel" right. Taka wrote: Considering the comments on the site you linked, it sounds like the new 24mm f2.0 is the best out of the 24mm lenses. ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wide Angle lenses
Ron- Thanks. Money is definitely a consideration in this whole thing- sorry to say, but if it were not a consideration, I'd have a bunch of Nikons- FM-3, F5, F100 and a ton of lenses. Heresy, I know, but the much greater availability of Nikon equipment, especially for rental makes it possible to use a 300mm f2.8 for a weekend, if I really need one. :-) I don't have any AF bodies, but I may get one in the future- the ZX-5n looks really nice. Size and weight are relatively unimportant- the FA24/2.0 isn't a huge brick, is it? The 24-90mm is rather expensive, much like the 28-80 f2.8. The primes are a lot cheaper. Taka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ron Bhanukitsiri Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:34 PM To: Pentax Discussion (E-mail) Subject: Re: Wide Angle lenses I was faced with these sort of similar question many years ago, Taka. First ask yourself. Do you have an AF body? If not, you do yet one in your future? If so, I'd get an AF lens; it can be use on both bodies. If $$$ is no object, then what the heck, get both MF and AF lenses ;-). There's a subjective feel to the MF focusing ring that you can't get in the AF focusing ring, IMHO. For your Super Program, unless size and weight is unimportant, I'd go with the SMC Pentax-A 24mm f/2.8 if MF lens is what you want. You'll be able to use the lens in programmed and shutter priority mode. I have one that I use on my MX body that I'll be buried with ;-). It's incredibly small and light and fit in my small waste bag. I find myself setting the aperture first with this lens and shutter speed later (i.e. aperture priority AE) anyway since controlling depth is most often what I want. Keeping checking eBay. It took me 10 years to find mine (mint condition) at a photo show (before eBay that is)! Personally, I don't like using zoom on my MF body and all of my zoom goes onto my PZ-1 body. But if you consider a zoom, how about the new 24-90mm? I'm drolling all over one thinking about it ;-). Just one of my 24 opinions, Ron B[ee] The Pen(tax) Pal -- Hi all- What do you all recommend for a good wide-angle lens? The only new lens I can find wider than 28mm that isn't really expensive is the 24mm f2.0 SMCP-FA IF lens that B&H sells for $350. Any experience w/ this lens? I'll be using it on a MF camera (Super A, Super Program), so if the focus ring has a super-short travel, I'm in trouble. Taka - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wide Angle lenses
I was faced with these sort of similar question many years ago, Taka. First ask yourself. Do you have an AF body? If not, you do yet one in your future? If so, I'd get an AF lens; it can be use on both bodies. If $$$ is no object, then what the heck, get both MF and AF lenses ;-). There's a subjective feel to the MF focusing ring that you can't get in the AF focusing ring, IMHO. For your Super Program, unless size and weight is unimportant, I'd go with the SMC Pentax-A 24mm f/2.8 if MF lens is what you want. You'll be able to use the lens in programmed and shutter priority mode. I have one that I use on my MX body that I'll be buried with ;-). It's incredibly small and light and fit in my small waste bag. I find myself setting the aperture first with this lens and shutter speed later (i.e. aperture priority AE) anyway since controlling depth is most often what I want. Keeping checking eBay. It took me 10 years to find mine (mint condition) at a photo show (before eBay that is)! Personally, I don't like using zoom on my MF body and all of my zoom goes onto my PZ-1 body. But if you consider a zoom, how about the new 24-90mm? I'm drolling all over one thinking about it ;-). Just one of my 24 opinions, Ron B[ee] The Pen(tax) Pal -- Hi all- What do you all recommend for a good wide-angle lens? The only new lens I can find wider than 28mm that isn't really expensive is the 24mm f2.0 SMCP-FA IF lens that B&H sells for $350. Any experience w/ this lens? I'll be using it on a MF camera (Super A, Super Program), so if the focus ring has a super-short travel, I'm in trouble. Taka - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wide angle lenses
Tom- That's exactly the info I need- is the FA24/2.0 fine to use MF? I don't really care if the focus ring doesn't feel as "nice," more worried about the "throw" of the ring and if it's amenable to fine focusing- I've read here about some of the AF lenses having a very short range of focus ring motion, making it very hard to focus in MF mode. This would obviously be more of a problem with a long lens, but you get the idea. Thanks. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wide angle lenses
Yeah, hell, what are results compared to all of those other factors? Len --- - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:26 PM Subject: Re: Wide angle lenses > Think about the size and the weight. Think about how either the > FA24/2.0 and the K24/2.8 may feel when focusing. Think about the kind > of images you like and would like to produce. Don't just buy a lens > because it's sharper, or has "better" optics or "better" coatings. Find > out what "better" means, and is it better for your needs. There are > reasons why so many people like the older lenses ... and likewise the > newer lenses. What's your reason for wanting a wider lens? Is it > coincidental with the features and characteristics of the FA24/2.0, or > the K24/2.8, or some other lens. > > TM wrote: > > > > Considering the comments on the site you linked, it sounds like > > the new 24mm f2.0 is the best out of the 24mm lenses. It's only > > a $40 difference and the new lens is, of course, brand new. > > -- > Shel Belinkoff > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ > "When a man's best friend is his dog, > that dog has a problem." --Edward Abbey > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wide angle lenses
"Difficult" is a relative term. What someone may think is difficult could be easy for you. Maybe you can find someone that has one and give it a try. Suppose someone tells you it's difficult to use with MF, and you pass it up. You will miss out on a very sharp, and fast 24mm Lens just because you based your decision on somebody else's opinion. Opinions are like a**holes. Everybody has one. It's the most popular lens in the PDML. What more do you want? Len --- - Original Message - From: "TM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:33 PM Subject: RE: Wide angle lenses > Nitin, > As always, thanks for your comments. > > Can anyone w/ experience w/ this lens tell me whether it is difficult to > use in MF mode or not? > > 24mm f2.0 IF SMCP-FA > > Thanks, > Taka > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wide angle lenses
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of TM > > The main thing I'm concerned with about the FA lens is that > it may not > work well w/ a MF camera. What do you mean? It works fine - you stick it on the camera, turn the ring, hit the button. It's got less DOF, so it's a little easier to focus than the 2.8. The ring doesn't feel as nice as the K. > > I don't think I really need a f2.0 lens, it's just that this one is > readily > available and the older 24mm f2.8 really isn't much less > money- KEH is > selling > the K24 for $310, B&H is selling the FA24/2.0 for $349.99. > For $50 more, > I'll > take the brand new lens and the faster lens. And the sharper lens, and the lens with better color rendition, and the more flare resistant lens. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wide angle lenses
In a message dated 5/1/2002 3:15:29 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I am awaiting delivery of a 19mm prime Vivitar f3.8 lens though. If this is a manual-focus lens, I own one of these. Haven't used it a lot, as I'm not much of a wide-angle person and 28mm is usually enough for me. But I did use it for this photo http://members.aol.com/ernreed/gatlin.jpg ERNR My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http://members.aol.com/ernreed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wide angle lenses
Shel- Very good advice, but there is a problem- I can't handle these lenses locally unless I go to NYC (I'm not doing that), so it's very difficult for me to really do much "hands-on" evaluation other than to actually buy the lens and use it. The main thing I'm concerned with about the FA lens is that it may not work well w/ a MF camera. As for the reason for wanting this lens- I need a 24mm wide-angle, as I've found even a 28mm doesn't quite cut it when you're in close quarters and trying to photograph a car w/o having to stand back and get annoyed every time someone gets in your field of view. I don't think I really need a f2.0 lens, it's just that this one is readily available and the older 24mm f2.8 really isn't much less money- KEH is selling the K24 for $310, B&H is selling the FA24/2.0 for $349.99. For $50 more, I'll take the brand new lens and the faster lens. If the K24 was $200, I'd get it w/o question, esp. if it came w/ hood. Taka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wide angle lenses Think about the size and the weight. Think about how either the FA24/2.0 and the K24/2.8 may feel when focusing. Think about the kind of images you like and would like to produce. Don't just buy a lens because it's sharper, or has "better" optics or "better" coatings. Find out what "better" means, and is it better for your needs. There are reasons why so many people like the older lenses ... and likewise the newer lenses. What's your reason for wanting a wider lens? Is it coincidental with the features and characteristics of the FA24/2.0, or the K24/2.8, or some other lens. TM wrote: > > Considering the comments on the site you linked, it sounds like the > new 24mm f2.0 is the best out of the 24mm lenses. It's only a $40 > difference and the new lens is, of course, brand new. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ "When a man's best friend is his dog, that dog has a problem." --Edward Abbey - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wide angle lenses
Hmm- not familiar w/ the 25mm. Is that a typo or is it really a 25mm? Taka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of T Rittenhouse Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wide angle lenses Taka, Would you be interested in a very clean SMC Pentax 25mm f2.8 for $200 + $10 ssh? It works perfectly, glass is perfect, looks almost like new, but has generic lens caps. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:03 PM Subject: RE: Wide angle lenses > Considering the comments on the site you linked, it sounds like the > new 24mm f2.0 is the best out of the 24mm lenses. It's only a $40 > difference and the new lens is, of course, brand new. > > Taka > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nitin Garg > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Wide angle lenses > > > "http://www.concentric.net/~Smhalpin/BriefComments.html#24 mm f/2.0 > FA* AL(IF)" > > If you planning to use it on mf cameras, i would say get dont pay for > the af and get a lens not built with mf cameras in mind. > > smc 24mm lens turns up on ebay now and then (keh has them for > 265-310). > > On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 02:01:39PM -0400, TM wrote: > > Hi all- > > What do you all recommend for a good wide-angle lens? > > > > The only new lens I can find wider than 28mm that isn't really > > expensive is the 24mm f2.0 SMCP-FA IF lens that B&H sells for $350. > > > > Any experience w/ this lens? I'll be using it on a MF camera (Super > > A, Super Program), so if the focus ring has a super-short travel, > > I'm in trouble. > > > > Taka > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go > > > to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go > to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go > to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wide angle lenses
Think about the size and the weight. Think about how either the FA24/2.0 and the K24/2.8 may feel when focusing. Think about the kind of images you like and would like to produce. Don't just buy a lens because it's sharper, or has "better" optics or "better" coatings. Find out what "better" means, and is it better for your needs. There are reasons why so many people like the older lenses ... and likewise the newer lenses. What's your reason for wanting a wider lens? Is it coincidental with the features and characteristics of the FA24/2.0, or the K24/2.8, or some other lens. TM wrote: > > Considering the comments on the site you linked, it sounds like > the new 24mm f2.0 is the best out of the 24mm lenses. It's only > a $40 difference and the new lens is, of course, brand new. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ "When a man's best friend is his dog, that dog has a problem." --Edward Abbey - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wide angle lenses
Look around for a K24/2.8 ... less expensive but perhaps more your style. It's a very well-regarded piece of glass. TM wrote: > > Hi all- > What do you all recommend for a good wide-angle lens? > > The only new lens I can find wider than 28mm that isn't > really expensive is the 24mm f2.0 SMCP-FA IF lens that > B&H sells for $350. > > Any experience w/ this lens? I'll be using it on a MF > camera (Super A, Super Program), so if the focus ring has > a super-short travel, I'm in trouble. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ "When a man's best friend is his dog, that dog has a problem." --Edward Abbey - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wide angle lenses
Unfortunately, I can't speak to the 24mm as the widest I currently have is a 28mm. I am awaiting delivery of a 19mm prime Vivitar f3.8 lens though. I don't need the speed of the 24mm (or the auto focus for that matter) and the used Vivitar cost me a lot less than half the B&H price that you quote for the 24mm and offers a wider field of view. I'll report once I get it. Cheers, Dave Hi all- What do you all recommend for a good wide-angle lens? The only new lens I can find wider than 28mm that isn't really expensive is the 24mm f2.0 SMCP-FA IF lens that B&H sells for $350. Any experience w/ this lens? I'll be using it on a MF camera (Super A, Super Program), so if the focus ring has a super-short travel, I'm in trouble. Taka mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wide angle lenses
Taka, Would you be interested in a very clean SMC Pentax 25mm f2.8 for $200 + $10 ssh? It works perfectly, glass is perfect, looks almost like new, but has generic lens caps. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:03 PM Subject: RE: Wide angle lenses > Considering the comments on the site you linked, it sounds like > the new 24mm f2.0 is the best out of the 24mm lenses. It's only > a $40 difference and the new lens is, of course, brand new. > > Taka > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nitin Garg > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Wide angle lenses > > > "http://www.concentric.net/~Smhalpin/BriefComments.html#24 mm f/2.0 FA* > AL(IF)" > > If you planning to use it on mf cameras, i would say get dont pay for > the af and get a lens not built with mf cameras in mind. > > smc 24mm lens turns up on ebay now and then (keh has them for 265-310). > > On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 02:01:39PM -0400, TM wrote: > > Hi all- > > What do you all recommend for a good wide-angle lens? > > > > The only new lens I can find wider than 28mm that isn't really > > expensive is the 24mm f2.0 SMCP-FA IF lens that B&H sells for $350. > > > > Any experience w/ this lens? I'll be using it on a MF > > camera (Super A, Super Program), so if the focus ring has > > a super-short travel, I'm in trouble. > > > > Taka > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go > > > to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go > to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit > the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wide angle lenses
Nitin, As always, thanks for your comments. Can anyone w/ experience w/ this lens tell me whether it is difficult to use in MF mode or not? 24mm f2.0 IF SMCP-FA Thanks, Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Hyperfocussing with Wide Angle Lenses
In a message dated 1/30/01 9:42:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << It's also good for photographing a hyperactive baby >> Why didn't I think of that! A new motto [and dictum]: "hyperfocus focussing for hyperactive babies!" Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: Hyperfocussing with Wide Angle Lenses
>In a message dated 1/29/01 10:50:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone *regularly* use hyperfocussing with their wide angle lenses?<< Yep, i use it with my 55/f3.5 (for 6x7) all the time. At f16, from 2m to infinity is in focus, although the extremes aren't too sharp and I'd normally to use f22 and the f16 scale on the lens. Luckily, the 6x7 lenses have very nice depth of field scales. It's also good for photographing a hyperactive baby who never sits still long enough for critical narrow focus. dave - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
Re: DOF scales & wide angle lenses
Mafud writes: > >> Does anyone *regularly* use hyperfocussing with their wide angle lenses? > > > > I do, but I don't set the "exact" hyperfocal distance according to the lens > >scale. I tend to keep 1-2 stops in reserve if possible (eg if my desired > >coverage fits within the f/5.6 marks I'll set to f/8 or f/11). Me too, what you gain by the "fudge factor" is a smaller circle of confusion than the one used to calculate the scale on the lens. (practicaly speaking, anyway - one of our optical physicists might grace us w/ the actual particulars, formulas and such) Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
RE: Wide-angle lenses on bellows/tubes
HI Scott and all I'm not an expert. But I think the explanation is very, very simple. The close up table has a subtitle: (Use of lenses in normal position). Now, why would yuo want to use a wide angle in normal position? It woun't enlarge much (if anything). You'll find the wide angles (28mm-40mm) in the "Use of lenses in reverse position" tables. The wide angles will enlarge more in reverse than the 50mm lenses. Best regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]På; vegne af Wieland Willker Sendt: 29. januar 2001 16:13 Til: Pentax-list-NEW Emne: Wide-angle lenses on bellows/tubes Dan Scott wrote: > From the Special Notes section of the Auto Bellows-A Slide Copier-A > manual: > 1. The wide-angle lenses up to 35mm and the 40mm f/2.8 lens are > excluded from the close-up tables. For such wide-angle lenses with short > focal lenghts and high-speed lenses are not suited for close-up work of > high magnification, unless they are used in reverse. Can somebody exlain to me why? What happens and why is the reverse mode better? Best wishes Wieland - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org.
