Re: ff and fff [Was: till (the flipflop operator, formerly ..)]
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 02:49:51PM -0600, Jonathan Scott Duff wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 11:37:42AM -0800, Larry Wall wrote: > > I've changed the flipflop operator/macro to "ff", short for "flipflop". > > Two questions: > > 1) Will ff (and fff) require whitespace around them? > 2) Do we get a more punctuationish unicode equivalent? Sadly I can only find 1D191;MUSICAL SYMBOL FORTE;So;0;L;N; It sems that fortissimo doesn't appear to have a single code point, let alone fff Nicholas Clark
Re: ff and fff [Was: till (the flipflop operator, formerly ..)]
Jonathan Scott Duff skribis 2006-01-25 14:49 (-0600): > 1) Will ff (and fff) require whitespace around them? I hope it will be exactly like x and xx. They need whitespace around them if otherwise it'd be part of an identifier. > 2) Do we get a more punctuationish unicode equivalent? I fear someone will suggest the ff ligature. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
Re: ff and fff [Was: till (the flipflop operator, formerly ..)]
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 11:37:42AM -0800, Larry Wall wrote: > I've changed the flipflop operator/macro to "ff", short for "flipflop". Two questions: 1) Will ff (and fff) require whitespace around them? 2) Do we get a more punctuationish unicode equivalent? -Scott -- Jonathan Scott Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ff and fff [Was: till (the flipflop operator, formerly ..)]
On 1/25/06, Juerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Patrick R. Michaud skribis 2006-01-25 13:47 (-0600): > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 11:37:42AM -0800, Larry Wall wrote: > > > I've changed the flipflop operator/macro to "ff", short for "flipflop". > > > This has several benefits. ... > > ...another of which is that we can use "ff" and "fff" to mean "loud" > > and "really loud" in our perl poetr^H^H^H^H^Hmusic. :-) > > We need pp and ppp for balance. /me wonders who signed up "The Little Einsteins"(tm) for P6l ...
Re: ff and fff [Was: till (the flipflop operator, formerly ..)]
Patrick R. Michaud skribis 2006-01-25 13:47 (-0600): > On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 11:37:42AM -0800, Larry Wall wrote: > > I've changed the flipflop operator/macro to "ff", short for "flipflop". > > This has several benefits. ... > ...another of which is that we can use "ff" and "fff" to mean "loud" > and "really loud" in our perl poetr^H^H^H^H^Hmusic. :-) We need pp and ppp for balance. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
Re: ff and fff [Was: till (the flipflop operator, formerly ..)]
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 11:37:42AM -0800, Larry Wall wrote: > I've changed the flipflop operator/macro to "ff", short for "flipflop". > This has several benefits. ... ...another of which is that we can use "ff" and "fff" to mean "loud" and "really loud" in our perl poetr^H^H^H^H^Hmusic. :-) Pm
ff and fff [Was: till (the flipflop operator, formerly ..)]
I've changed the flipflop operator/macro to "ff", short for "flipflop". This has several benefits. It's a doubled char like other short-circuit operators. It lets us add an "fff" to be equivalent to p5's scalar ... operator, and either of them can take the ^ modifiers to exclude endpoints. In trying to explain p5's flipflip operator, GrandFather on perlmonks just abbreviated it as "f/f", so it seems pretty natural that way. Also, upon a bit of psychological reflection, it's probably actually *good* for this operator to be an obscure one, because the very readability of "till" would tend to give people the false impression they know what's going on. Much better to send them to the manual to look up what "ff" means than to have them guessing wrong. (And being alphabetic it's easier to look up than a doubled punctuation character would be, if we had any punctuation characters to spare for a rare operator, which we don't.) Larry
