Re: [HACKERS] [GSoC] Push-based query executor discussion

2017-04-06 Thread Kevin Grittner
Sorry, I didn't notice that this was going to a public list.  That URL
is only available to people who signed up as mentors for PostgreSQL
GSoC participation this year.  Does the link to the draft work for you?

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Re: [HACKERS] [GSoC] Push-based query executor discussion

2017-04-06 Thread Tom Lane
Kevin Grittner  writes:
> Note that the final proposal is here:
> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/serve/5874530240167936/

I'm just getting a blank page at that URL?

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Re: [HACKERS] [GSoC] Push-based query executor discussion

2017-04-06 Thread Kevin Grittner
On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 8:11 AM, Alexander Korotkov
 wrote:

>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dvBETE6IJA9AcXd11XJNPsF_VPcDhSjy7rlsxj262l8/edit?usp=sharing

> I'd love to see a comment from Andres Freund who is leading executor
> performance improvements.

Note that the final proposal is here:

https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/serve/5874530240167936/

Also, I just entered a comment about an important question that I
think needs to be answered right up front.

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Re: [HACKERS] [GSoC] Push-based query executor discussion

2017-04-06 Thread Alexander Korotkov
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 12:13 AM, Arseny Sher  wrote:

> Time is short, student's application deadline is on 3rd April. I decided
> to reformulate the project scope myself. Here is the proposal:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dvBETE6IJA9AcXd11XJNPsF_
> VPcDhSjy7rlsxj262l8/edit?usp=sharing
>
> The main idea is that now there is a formalized goal of the project,
> "partial support of all TPC-H queries".
>
> I am also CC'ing people who was mentioned in "Potential Mentors" section
> on GSoC wiki page.
>

I'd love to see a comment from Andres Freund who is leading executor
performance improvements.

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Re: [HACKERS] [GSoC] Push-based query executor discussion

2017-04-03 Thread Arseny Sher
Time is short, student's application deadline is on 3rd April. I decided
to reformulate the project scope myself. Here is the proposal:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dvBETE6IJA9AcXd11XJNPsF_VPcDhSjy7rlsxj262l8/edit?usp=sharing

The main idea is that now there is a formalized goal of the project,
"partial support of all TPC-H queries".

I am also CC'ing people who was mentioned in "Potential Mentors" section
on GSoC wiki page.


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Re: [HACKERS] [GSoC] Push-based query executor discussion

2017-03-23 Thread sher-ars

Oleg Bartunov  writes:

I don't know exactly if the results of GSoC project should be 
committed,


Technically, they are not required:
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq


Are mentoring organizations required to use the code produced by
students?



No. While we hope that all the code that comes out of this program will
find a happy home, we don’t require organizations to use the student's'
code.



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Re: [HACKERS] [GSoC] Push-based query executor discussion

2017-03-22 Thread Oleg Bartunov
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Arseny Sher  wrote:

> > While I admire your fearlessness, I think the chances of you being
> > able to bring a project of this type to a successful conclusion are
> > remote.  Here is what I said about this topic previously:
> >
> > http://postgr.es/m/CA+Tgmoa=kzHJ+TwxyQ+vKu21nk3prkRjSdbhjubN7qvc8UKuG
> g...@mail.gmail.com
>
> Well, as I said, I don't pretend that I will support full functionality:
> >> instead, we should decide which part of this work (if any) is
> >> going to be done in the course of GSoC. Probably, all TPC-H queries
> >> with and without index support is a good initial target, but this
> >> needs to be discussed.
>
> I think that successfull completion of this project should be a clear
> and justified answer to the question "Is this idea is good enough to
> work on merging it into the master?", not the production-ready patches
> themselves. Nevertheless, of course project success criterion must be
> reasonably formalized -- e.g. implement nodes X with features Y, etc.
>

How many GSoC slots and possible students we have ?

Should we reject this interesting project, which based on several years of
research work of academician group in the institute ? May be better help
him to reformulate the scope of project and let him work ? I don't know
exactly if the results of GSoC project should be committed , but as a
research project it's certainly would be useful for the community.


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Re: [HACKERS] [GSoC] Push-based query executor discussion

2017-03-22 Thread Arseny Sher
> While I admire your fearlessness, I think the chances of you being
> able to bring a project of this type to a successful conclusion are
> remote.  Here is what I said about this topic previously:
>
> http://postgr.es/m/CA+Tgmoa=kzhj+twxyq+vku21nk3prkrjsdbhjubn7qvc8uk...@mail.gmail.com

Well, as I said, I don't pretend that I will support full functionality:
>> instead, we should decide which part of this work (if any) is
>> going to be done in the course of GSoC. Probably, all TPC-H queries
>> with and without index support is a good initial target, but this
>> needs to be discussed.

I think that successfull completion of this project should be a clear
and justified answer to the question "Is this idea is good enough to
work on merging it into the master?", not the production-ready patches
themselves. Nevertheless, of course project success criterion must be
reasonably formalized -- e.g. implement nodes X with features Y, etc.


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Re: [HACKERS] [GSoC] Push-based query executor discussion

2017-03-08 Thread Robert Haas
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Arseny Sher  wrote:
> I would like to work on push-based executor [1] during GSoC, so I'm
> writing to introduce myself and start the discussion of the project. I
> think I should mention beforehand that the subject is my master's
> thesis topic, and I have already started working on it. This letter is
> not (obviously) a ready proposal but rather initial point to talk over
> the concept. Below you can see a short review of the idea, description
> of benefits for the community, details, related work and some info
> about me.

While I admire your fearlessness, I think the chances of you being
able to bring a project of this type to a successful conclusion are
remote.  Here is what I said about this topic previously:

http://postgr.es/m/CA+Tgmoa=kzhj+twxyq+vku21nk3prkrjsdbhjubn7qvc8uk...@mail.gmail.com

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