Re: Purchasing PM5. How does it work?
Tim Hodgson on 5/31/04 said >On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 9:41 am -0700, Midi wrote: > >> >>Tim caused electrons to hula in cyberspace with: >> >>>In the meantime, how about adding a 'List-Id' header to the list mailings >>>for more reliable filtering? >>> >>Tim, >> >>Try using "Reply to" and contains "powermail discussion". That has never >>failed for me. > >That's odd - I'm sure you're right, but I can't actually see a 'reply-to' >header in the full headers. I have it in mine [?] but for the filters I use "Sender" which works just fine. -- Barbara Needham
Re(4): IMAP options?
I know, but someone on this list explained it to me that way some time ago. PowerMail does support IMAP, but rudimentary compared to Mail and Entourage that have been tailored to work with an Exchange server. But I am way beyond my knowledge now, only assuming! -- Mirko Kranenburg Maastricht, Netherlands e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] PowerBook G4 (15" FW-800) OS X 10.3.4 Freeway Pro 3.5.12, NavPack, GraphPack, PowerMail 5.0, 3 panes The whole MarinerPak On Mon, 31 May 2004 16:37:53 -0400 Jonathan Greene wrote: >They do technically reside on the server, but Mail.app and Entourage can >both moves messages around to either local or remote folders... > > >On 5/31/04 4:22 PM, "Mirko Kranenburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something >like: > >> As far as I remember, IMAP is pretty much on itself. The folders and the >> messages do not obey to the rules. I think that is because they >> technically do not reside on your Mac, but on the server. >> >> I only dabble with IMAP with my .Mac account, but always revert it to POP >> with leaving the messages on the server for 10 days. Best of both worlds >> for me. > > > > >
Re: Re(2): IMAP options?
They do technically reside on the server, but Mail.app and Entourage can both moves messages around to either local or remote folders... On 5/31/04 4:22 PM, "Mirko Kranenburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something like: > As far as I remember, IMAP is pretty much on itself. The folders and the > messages do not obey to the rules. I think that is because they > technically do not reside on your Mac, but on the server. > > I only dabble with IMAP with my .Mac account, but always revert it to POP > with leaving the messages on the server for 10 days. Best of both worlds > for me.
Re(2): IMAP options?
As far as I remember, IMAP is pretty much on itself. The folders and the messages do not obey to the rules. I think that is because they technically do not reside on your Mac, but on the server. I only dabble with IMAP with my .Mac account, but always revert it to POP with leaving the messages on the server for 10 days. Best of both worlds for me. -- Mirko Kranenburg Maastricht, Netherlands e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] PowerBook G4 (15" FW-800) OS X 10.3.4 Freeway Pro 3.5.12, NavPack, GraphPack, PowerMail 5.0, 3 panes The whole MarinerPak On Mon, 31 May 2004 15:58:17 -0400 Jonathan Greene wrote: >Anyone? Anyone using IMAP? > > >On 5/31/04 1:15 PM, "Jonathan Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said >something like: > >> Some questions - >> >> 1 - I can't figure out how to move a message past the local folders with >> a filter... is this possible? >> >> 2 - Is there a way to hide deleted IMAP messages until they are >> officially synced and deleted? Things can get pretty cluttered until you >> hit expunge... >> >> Thanks, >> JG > > > > >
Re: IMAP options?
Anyone? Anyone using IMAP? On 5/31/04 1:15 PM, "Jonathan Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something like: > Some questions - > > 1 - I can't figure out how to move a message past the local folders with > a filter... is this possible? > > 2 - Is there a way to hide deleted IMAP messages until they are > officially synced and deleted? Things can get pretty cluttered until you > hit expunge... > > Thanks, > JG
Re: Thin Folder List window
Hands On (SW sub) wrote: >However, the Folder List window (ctrl-cmd-L, which I use all the time, >rather than the Mail Browser window) shows up as a very thin (2mm) >vertical line. Not sure why this happened, but you can probably resize it after selecting the "zoom window" item in the Window menu. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - "There's a reason Mac users from different countries have chosen this very good program. 1) It just works. 2) It's not bloated like some other mail applications. 3) And it's better than Mail, the program that comes with OS X. Honest. Would I recommend PowerMail? Definitely." PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: Spamsieve not working in 5.0?
Gunnar Madsen wrote: >Only 1/3 to 1/2 of spam is identified correctly - the rest is going in my >inbox. I dutifully mark them all as spam, and when I check the stats in >SS, it seems to be adding the messages to the corpus, but it rarely >claims any of them as false positives, and trumpets its performance as >95% or more. - verify the conditions of the "Spam: evaluate" filter; maybe the message that are not filtered are sent from an address that is in your address book or in your address history. - make sure the messages are not intercepted by another filter that appears before the "Spam: evaluate" filter in the filter list Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - "With fairly flexible filters and mail options built-in, PowerMail shows that a great deal of thought has gone into striking the balance between a Über-geek tool (i.e. w/full-blown Boleean instructions) and something a mortal can use (pull down menus)." PowerMail user comment on www.macupdate.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re: Continuing Support
Ed Ver Hoef wrote: >Do I understand correctly that PM 5 will not run under anything earlier >than OS10? More precisely, it will run on 10.2 or later. > If so, will you continue to support PM 4.2.1? PowerMail 4 will no longer be developed, but of course, we continue to provide technical support for it. Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering - "There is almost nothing that you cannot do with PowerMail. Now that it will integrate the OS X address book and OS X spell checking, it's going to be one incredible email agent." PowerMail user comment on www.macupdate.com Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com -
Re(3): Purchasing PM5. How does it work?
On 31/05/2004 at 5:54 PM I saw Tim Hodgson type: Clipped from the headers for context... >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Reply-To: "PowerMail discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Precedence: List Kename
Re: Purchasing PM5. How does it work?
On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 9:41 am -0700, Midi wrote: > >Tim caused electrons to hula in cyberspace with: > >>In the meantime, how about adding a 'List-Id' header to the list mailings >>for more reliable filtering? >> >Tim, > >Try using "Reply to" and contains "powermail discussion". That has never >failed for me. That's odd - I'm sure you're right, but I can't actually see a 'reply-to' header in the full headers. TimH
Re: Spamsieve not working in 5.0?
Since 2 days I am experiencing the same problem. The first week or so after the upgrade it all worked fine. The only changes I've done during the past 2 days (since the problem begun to occur) was to create some new filters and to adjust some existing ones. I did not touch the existing spam filters though. Another thing I noticed is that when using Mark as SPAM it does not set the label to spam (as it did). Applying the Spam: actions filter after marking as spam, will correctly label the spam. ---marlyse former message(s) quotes: - > Having a similar problem to Gunnar. > > I can't see that I have another version of SpamS. running, but the > Stats for SS do not indicate any messages going into Filtered Mail or > changing the SS accuracy listing, but each manually marked Spam > message does go into the Corpus count. > > I have an other test installation on a separate machine, with the same > filtering settings as far as I can tell, and it seems to be working OK > with new messages increasing the Filtered Mail count. > > Puzzled. > > -merrill
Re: Purchasing PM5. How does it work?
>On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 4:03 pm +0200, Hands On (SW sub) wrote: > >>4) Either by integrating this list with a web-board, or by simply moving >>this discussion list to a more sofisticated mail list management system, >>the list discussions should come with a marked Subject line [PMdiscuss] >>that would greatly facilitate identifying and sorting list messages from >>other mail. > Tim caused electrons to hula in cyberspace with: >In the meantime, how about adding a 'List-Id' header to the list mailings >for more reliable filtering? > >TimH Tim, Try using "Reply to" and contains "powermail discussion". That has never failed for me. Midi
Re: Thin Folder List window
On 31 5 2004 at 11:20 am -0400, Hands On (SW sub) wrote: >However, the Folder List window (ctrl-cmd-L, which I use all the time, >rather than the Mail Browser window) shows up as a very thin (2mm) >vertical line. If I double click on the top portion of this it >minimizes, and if I close it (cmd-W) then it goes away, but everytime I >open it, it comes back as just this thin line. Relaunch PM, hold command-option, and choose the checkbox labeled "reset window-related settings" (or whatever it is called). >Also, is there any way to change the default icons in the Window toolbar? > I would really like to be able to put back the simple aqua "Send" >button, rather than the faux-postal stamp. Yup there is; on May 15 Jérôme explained: >Here is an undocumented feature: you can open PowerMail's package (via >the contextual menu on the application icon), and for every icon file >present in the Contents / Resources folder, you can put your own icon, >with the same name, in a folder called "Custom Icons" in your PowerMail >User folder. So create a Send.icns in your custom icons folder. >And can key-commands be allocated to buttons or menus in PM? I would >like to be able to change some to be more intune with other programs that >I regularly use. Yup, just like any other app under Mac OS X -- open your System Preferences and check the Keyboard & Mouse pane. -b -- Ben Kennedy, chief magician zygoat creative technical services 613-228-3392 | 1-866-466-4628 http://www.zygoat.ca
Re: Purchasing PM5. How does it work?
On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 4:03 pm +0200, Hands On (SW sub) wrote: >4) Either by integrating this list with a web-board, or by simply moving >this discussion list to a more sofisticated mail list management system, >the list discussions should come with a marked Subject line [PMdiscuss] >that would greatly facilitate identifying and sorting list messages from >other mail. In the meantime, how about adding a 'List-Id' header to the list mailings for more reliable filtering? TimH
Thin Folder List window
Here is an odd one with my PM5 installation. When I did the upgrade, all my windows opened in the locations where they last were when I closed PM4 for the last time. However, the Folder List window (ctrl-cmd-L, which I use all the time, rather than the Mail Browser window) shows up as a very thin (2mm) vertical line. If I double click on the top portion of this it minimizes, and if I close it (cmd-W) then it goes away, but everytime I open it, it comes back as just this thin line. I obviously can't see the list of folders this way! Any suggestions? Also, is there any way to change the default icons in the Window toolbar? I would really like to be able to put back the simple aqua "Send" button, rather than the faux-postal stamp. And can key-commands be allocated to buttons or menus in PM? I would like to be able to change some to be more intune with other programs that I regularly use. -merrill
IMAP options?
Some questions - 1 - I can't figure out how to move a message past the local folders with a filter... is this possible? 2 - Is there a way to hide deleted IMAP messages until they are officially synced and deleted? Things can get pretty cluttered until you hit expunge... Thanks, JG -- Jonathan Greene e [EMAIL PROTECTED] m 917.560.3000 b http://www.atmasphere.net/wp
Spamsieve not working in 5.0?
Having a similar problem to Gunnar. I can't see that I have another version of SpamS. running, but the Stats for SS do not indicate any messages going into Filtered Mail or changing the SS accuracy listing, but each manually marked Spam message does go into the Corpus count. I have an other test installation on a separate machine, with the same filtering settings as far as I can tell, and it seems to be working OK with new messages increasing the Filtered Mail count. Puzzled. -merrill
Re: Purchasing PM5. How does it work?
Alan raises some important issues that need to be brought home to PM marketing. I am quite pleased with PM generally, and have really appreciated the speed and efficiency since the Fox Trot search technology was implemented. I am also quite eager to support a small independent (and European) Mac developer with deserved upgrade fees. However, 1) The delay in delivering the registration codes is really unnecessary. This was complicated by the fact that I made the migration just after making the on-line order (thinking it would be soon arriving), but was then told by PM5 installation that because there are over 200 messages (nearly 20,000, in fact), I cannot send or receive messages until I have registered. How then, is the average user (who may only have POP3 access, via PM) supposed to be able to get their e-mailed registration code? If I didn't have other means (i.e. SSH/Telnet) to access my accounts, I couldn't get the registration code when it is finally sent! The CTM website should be more specific in instructing users NOT to upgrade until they have the registration code. Also, with the very reliable, instant CCard processing services like Kagi or Esellerate available, why should paying users have to wait 24 hours, 36 hours, or God forbid, one week, to get a registration code?? 2) CTM needs to seriously revamp their web interface design and web structure with its numerous 404 dead link pages. (For example, the page that comes up when I click on "Buy and Register Now" in the PM menu! Not very convincing sales and marketing tool, if you ask me -- and this seems to be the experience reported by several others.) 3) Can I suggest that CTM move the PM site to a more modern content management system with web-based discussion forums, FAQs, Feature requests, beginner forums, conversion discussions, advanced scripting, etc. This could work in tandum with, or in addition to, this mailing list, which has a great group of very helpful contributors. This would better reflect the reality of PowerMail as an active, developing, community driven, quality e-mail product, and I dare say encourage a lot more converts and buyers who may have been turned away by a dead link or the amature and out-of-date website. 4) Either by integrating this list with a web-board, or by simply moving this discussion list to a more sofisticated mail list management system, the list discussions should come with a marked Subject line [PMdiscuss] that would greatly facilitate identifying and sorting list messages from other mail. I hope that CTM can invest some of their revenues from this new release into the above improvements, as well as continued quality PM development. Kudos on the new release! I'd love to hear other's comments on my suggestions above. -merrill On Thu, 27 May 2004, alan wrote: > So, I was reinstalling the system on my Powerbook (don't ask!) and I > thought I'd upgrade to Powermail 5 at the same time. I went to a page at > the ctm web site and _thought_ that I ordered PM5 + SpamSieve, entered my > credit card, and the transaction ended with a page that said that I would > receive PowerMail 5 "when it is released"! > > Is this normal? Did I find an out-of-date web page? Or am I confused > about the availability of PM5? Am I supposed to get an email with my > registration numbers? I am really confused. (So far my credit card hasn't > been charged, but I only ordered it 24 hours ago). > > How did others get a PM5/SpamSieve registration number? How long did it take? > > A > >
correcing date
I have re-imported some mail into PM. A couple of messages have their dates corrupted somehow. They list as 22.02.09 rather than 22.02.04. They now sit like sore thumbs at the top of my mailbox and annoy me! Can I reset the date to the correct year? I know there is a script "fix incorrect dates" but doesn't that make the date today, which is also wrong? (PM 4.2.1 BTW, I've decided 5 isn't for me...) Thanks -- david.gordon
