Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] XCode for OS X 10.5?
On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:18 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > Sorry to ask a non-Python question here, but I need this to get my laptop > rebuilt > so I can do stuff again. I lost the disk on my Macbook Pro which Apple kindly > replaced, however my backups were partially toast, so I had to reinstall OS X > from scratch. (Luckily /Users was viable. Whew!) > > I can't find a version of XCode which works with Mac OS X 10.5. All Apple > will > show me on their dev site is XCode 3.2 which requires Snow Leopard. I can't > build a dang thing - no make or gcc for instance. > > Any pointers appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Skip Montanaro Try http://connect.apple.com You can find older versions there. Dave ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Shortcut for IDLE on Mac OS X (LEOPARD)
On Oct 7, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: Ben Golding wrote: You should be able to put this in a double-clickable file by putting that string in a file called, say, IDLE.command and then making it executable. Files ending in ".command" are recognised by Launch Services as shell scripts (I believe). Has no-one made a nifty utility to make a *.app bundle from a shell script? That would seem like an obvious utility to want... -Chris You can do that with Automator by choosing the Application template, choosing the shell-script action, and then saving it. Dave ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
[Pythonmac-SIG] correct way to create a PyObjC application
I've done a little bit Cocoa programming using Objective-C and tried PyObjc back under Xcode/IB 2.0, but now I'd like to try PyObjc with Xcode/IB 3. Using a mixture of documentation, here's what I've come up with. Can someone please let me know if there's anything wrong with this process or if there is a much easier way (I'm not complaining - this seems pretty simple to me) to create a simple PyObjc app (no bindings, or existing controller classes, etc.) using the Leopard System python/pyobjc (i.e., the python that comes with Leopard). 1. In Xcode 3, create a Cocoa Python Objc Application 2. add a new Python file that will be the controller 3. click on MainMenu.xib to open IB 4. create interface 5. drag a NSObject to IB MainMenu.xib window (I believe this is referred to as the Doc window) 5. in the IB Inspector window do the following 5.1 change the Class Identity to the Python controller class I just created 5.2 add outlets for the widgets I need to access in the Class Outlets section 5.3 add actions (no underscores in names, end in a colon) in the Class Actions section 6. Control mouse drag from Controller in Doc Window to each widget and set the outlet 7. Control mouse drag from Buttons, etc. to the Controller and set the action 8. in Controller Python file: 8.1 add a line for each outlet right under class definition that looks like: outletName = objc.IBOutlet() (this will allow methods to access the outlet as self.outletName 8.2 create methods that match action names changing colon to underscore (i.e., def buttonPressed_(self, sender); one web page said add @objc.IBAction above those methods but that didn't seem necessary) 9. in generated main.py, add import statement for my Python controller file 10. Build and Go This seems to work for me and if I tell it to build a universal app and use the Release build, I can even copy the release build .app to other machines and run it. Thanks, Dave ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
[Pythonmac-SIG] Python TkAqua, Tkinter bug
I am not certain where the problem is or who to report it to, but
there is a bug in TkAqua, Tkinter, or possibly OS X's windowing
system. I am using a simple module on top of Tkinter for teaching an
intro programming course. When I click the mouse in the Tkinter
window, it often reports the wrong coordinates for the click most of
the time. If I use idle and first click on the Tk Console window and
then in the graphical window it seems to work. If I don't click in the
Tk Console window or start Python from the Terminal, it almost always
reports wrong values.
I am running Leopard now and tried both the built-in Python 2.5 and
installing the version from python.org. Some of my students who are
using Tiger report the same issue - I don't recall problems last year
when using this on Tiger, but it's possible. On Windows, the
coordinates are always correct.
The graphics.py module built on top of Tkinter is available at:
http://mcsp.wartburg.edu/zelle/python/
A simple example that shows the problem is:
from graphics import *
win = GraphWin('test', 800, 800)
pt = win.getMouse()
print pt.getX(), pt.getY()
After clicking in the top left corner, it is clearly the wrong answer
(it should be near 0, 0 depending on how accurate your click is).
Any ideas on where the problem is, who to notify, etc.?
Thanks,
Dave
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Why Do I Explicitly Need MacPython
On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Russell E. Owen wrote: > > I see what you mean about different installations. I think the > following > might work better: > - Always modify _tkinter.so to point to Tcl/Tk 8.4 in >/Library/Frameworks. > This will fall back to the built in /System/Library/Frameworks if the > user has not installed an 8.4 of their own. > > It avoids a few of the issues you bring up and is simpler and more > robust than what I originally suggested. Advantages: > - All installations would be the same. > - If the user installs a new Tcl/Tk after installing Python, it > would be > used (unless it's 8.5, which would not be safe to try with Python). > > It still does not address your concern than a user might accidentally > have a Tcl/Tk that they don't want to use. I'd personally be > happier if > users could easily upgrade their Tcl/Tk (since the installed one > is so > bad), so I see this as more of an advantage than a disadvantage. Users > aren't going to typically install Tcl/Tk unless they want to use > it, I > think. Still...I'm sure you've seen more requests for help than I have > over the years. > > I'm not keen on including a Tcl/Tk for several reasons: > - Which version would you use? Even 8.4.11 has some important known > bugs, and 8.4.13 has different ones (at least one of which is very > nasty > for my application, so I stick with 8.4.11 for now). > - If a user wanted to upgrade their Tcl/Tk, what would they do? The > answer is easy if we use the version of 8.4 found in /Library/ > Framework > (if any). > - It can be tricky to add needed additions (my app uses the > "snack" sound library, for example). A standard Tcl/Tk makes this much > easier (and in fact ActiveState Tcl/Tk already includes all additions > most folks would want). > - There is no universal Tcl/Tk yet (though one is planned). I > personally > don't want to try to build one. > > So my personal suggestion is that we modify _tkinter.so using > Bob Ippolito's recipe unchanged (no fancy script that hunts for an > installed Tcl/Tk). It will be completely compatible with the built in > Tcl/Tk but gives any real users of Tcl/Tk (anyone who isn't just > writing > "hello world") a trivial way to get a decent version. > > -- Russell I'm very interested in this and would be happy to help with testing. I teach Python at the college level using John Zelle's Python book (it uses Tk for simple GUI programs). Most of the programs run fine, but some of the more complex ones crash intermittently within Tk. The same program seems to run fine on Windows using 2.4.3 although it does crash intermittently on CentOS 4.3 within Tk. In the meantime, are you saying the simplest solution for my students with Macs is to use ActiveState (some have G4 laptops and some have Intel based laptops)? I have a G5 running 10.3.9 at work (IT isn't planning to upgrade yet) and a G5 running 10.4.x at home so I'll be happy to test on both of those. Thanks, Dave ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
