Re: [QUAD-L] Medicaid/Medicare state differences
I really thought about moving to Florida when I got sick but then my Mom said dont because you can't get any help here and man is she right. That state is terrible in the giving help to those who need it dept but then look who is the Governor, Bush's bro. Stacy - Original Message - From: S. Dial To: Stacy Harim ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Medicaid/Medicare state differences Amazing, the differences in our states. I have medicare/medicaid and was told with both all I could get was 1 visit (an hour) a day just 3 days a week and I'm a c3-c4 quad and can do none of my ADL's independently ... Before I was put on medicare I could get thru just medicaid 2 visits a day 7 days a week. Steph Anyone else in Florida on here (that needs full care 7 days a week) with medicaid & medicare? If so, how are you making it?
Re: [QUAD-L] Medicaid/Medicare state differences
I was on the "waiting" list for two years, never did get on the damn waiver list. Finally, I gave up and here I sit. I don't wanna spend the rest of my life in a nursing home, despite the good care I receive here, but I'm scared to get back out there, ya know? Steph
[QUAD-L] To Dan
Hey, Im a c7 going on 8 years post. As far as popping in the shoulders , this is normal to some extent. Ranging your shoulders out should help this. If your shoulders are hurting badly for a long period of time I would go easy on them for awhile and see if it gets any better. All the doc is going to do is ask if you want a cortisone shot, or he may insult you saying you have carpal tunnel syndrone. The key is dont get to excited over this, the pain may go away and time will tell you how to deal with it. Ive had minor shoulder injuries and got scared but I pulled through. Dr. Wice told me something a few years ago about quad living.ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. This statement pissed me off but now I can see where hes coming from. Be strong and if it doesnt get better by all means consult the doc. Ron
[QUAD-L] Rotor cuff
I totally disagree, but not all injuries are the same. I just went through this problem, PLUS a shredded tendon in my right shoulder. The doctor recommended surgery, but I ask to try therapy at home with the strechy bands. Within six weeks of intensive therapy, NO PAIN! My right arm only has half the strength it had, but that is due to the tendon tear. If a tendon is not repaired within 72 hours it dies. Mine was already dead. Think before you go under the knife. GA
Re: [QUAD-L] Medicaid/Medicare state differences
It's ironic that in all these years, I've never met anyone associated with medicare/medicaid with a disability. Yet they never seems to hesitate offering what they think about the terms of the new policies regarding benefits. Usually, they are wrong. How ironic is that? W In a message dated 12/21/05 5:54:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Amazing, the differences in our states. I have medicare/medicaid and was told with both all I could get was 1 visit (an hour) a day just 3 days a week and I'm a c3-c4 quad and can do none of my ADL's independently ... Before I was put on medicare I could get thru just medicaid 2 visits a day 7 days a week. Steph >>
Re: [QUAD-L] Medicaid/Medicare state differences
I got on the BSCIP waiver before Medicare kicked in. I get 4 hours/day, 7 days/week. But I live with my caregiver and am listed as renting from her. BillC6 Incomplete since 7/20/68Leesburg, FLI live in my own little world. But it's OK...they know me here. - Original Message - From: S. Dial To: Stacy Harim ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Medicaid/Medicare state differences Amazing, the differences in our states. I have medicare/medicaid and was told with both all I could get was 1 visit (an hour) a day just 3 days a week and I'm a c3-c4 quad and can do none of my ADL's independently ... Before I was put on medicare I could get thru just medicaid 2 visits a day 7 days a week. Steph Anyone else in Florida on here (that needs full care 7 days a week) with medicaid & medicare? If so, how are you making it?
Re: [QUAD-L] murderball
I'm a C4/5 Quad w/biceps, no triceps. Mare - Original Message - From: "William Willis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] murderball Well, I just finished the movie Murderball. A pretty good movie, but not as moving as Rory Oshea. Plus, it seemed to have an underlying tone of anger. And, I'd be curious to know how many of us have developed our biceps and deltoids like these guys. I have both those muscles, but I'm still weak as a mouse. How about you guys?
Re: [QUAD-L] About torn roter cuff and shoulder pain
LOL - Original Message - From: S. Dial To: Brien Stocker ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About torn roter cuff and shoulder pain Brien, Dude, go to the doctor! ;-) Steph
[QUAD-L] Cute Scottish Toast
To all my fellow gimps & gimpettes: Here's to you, as good as you are,And here's to me, as bad as I am.But, as good as you areAnd as bad as I am,I'm as good as you areAs bad as I am. Isn't that cute? Steph
[QUAD-L] Medicaid/Medicare state differences
Amazing, the differences in our states. I have medicare/medicaid and was told with both all I could get was 1 visit (an hour) a day just 3 days a week and I'm a c3-c4 quad and can do none of my ADL's independently ... Before I was put on medicare I could get thru just medicaid 2 visits a day 7 days a week. Steph Anyone else in Florida on here (that needs full care 7 days a week) with medicaid & medicare? If so, how are you making it?
Re: [QUAD-L] Shampoo Ring
i agree. Mare - Original Message - From: Steve Oldaker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Shampoo Ring John... When you are stuck in bed, instead of using the dry shampoo, you might consider obtaining an inflatable shampoo ring that allows you to get your hair wash while in bed. The water drains through a plastic tube on the bottom-outside edge of the ring. I use a plastic trash can to catch the water. I have been using one for years and take in with me on travel, hospital visits, etc. You just have to replace them now and then as they are not very durable. You can see and order one at the following site: http://www.alimed.com/ProductDetail.asp?style=8231&fprd=Shampoo+Tray&oid1=&oid2= Steve From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:35 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] college Berry Christmas all, It is entirely possible that those comments were directed at me. altho, most of the quads I went to therapy with are deceased. Maybe I'm just old. I have never seen statistics that were kept on it. when I did go to college I was consistently reminded of the cost to the bureau of vocational rehabilitation. I also have a persistent skin problem in the fold area at the top of my leg. It didn't react to the time that I spent laying on my side. Recently, I discovered that sore responds to an appointment that was prescribed for eczema; is called dexamethasone/bacitracin. This ointment works like magic on it. I hate doing better rest and I despise the dry shampoo. I wish you the best Stacey. Happy holidays, john In a message dated 12/20/2005 9:10:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi John,I have never heard that we were a high suicide rate? What is the percentage. Thank you.DanaReturn-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Received: from rly-yj06.mx.aol.com (rly-yj06.mail.aol.com [172.18.180.144]) by air-yj04.mail.aol.com (v107.13) with ESMTP id MAILINYJ42-82543a6f5a82f5; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:03:00 -0500Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (ultra5.eskimo.com [204.122.16.68]) by rly-yj06.mx.aol.com (v108.32) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYJ67-82543a6f5a82f5; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:02:18 -0500Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBJI1nDM021598; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:01:54 -0800Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.13.4/8.12.10/Submit) id jBJI1h6P021515; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:01:43 -0800Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:01:43 -0800X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -fDomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VqnJ+uNpXmKS6LpMxPHeK6iwuOA3CNCrn3Q3fmWXyBQi+k+KV8cRHFCwWw7XoON6; h=Received:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date:Content-Type:X-Mailer:From:References:To:Subject:X-FID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP;MIME-Version: 1.0Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:47:19 -0600 (Central Standard Time)Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="Boundary-00=_VQARQL80"X-Mailer: IncrediMail (4001874)From: "QuadPirate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, , <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] collegeX-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE---X-Priority: 3Reply-To: "QuadPirate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>X-ELNK-Trace: 329ba9ee3fc1c4fff21c5f5255d6c174239a348a220c26097a7ce4ee2d90ad64b540c3ad555410e293caf27dac41a8fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9cX-Originating-IP: 4.253.69.56Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.comX-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95588X-Loop: quad-list@eskimo.comList-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: listResent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-AOL-IP: 204.122.16.68 Suicide? This is news to me. Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/17/05 14:48:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] college
Re: [QUAD-L] About torn roter cuff and shoulder pain
Dan, I always see ppl in PT get yelled at for not going to the doctor for shoulder pain. They only made it worse. Sorry, Mare C4/5 28yrs post - Original Message - From: "Brien Stocker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About torn roter cuff and shoulder pain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few weeks back, there was some talk of injured shoulders and pain. My left arm has never had near as good of control as my right since my injury., and lately it has been getting awful pain and even makes some noise as I try to work out and exercise my arms. I am pretty sure it must be a torn roter cuff in my shoulder. Last night I had severe pain in it while just trying to sleep.I try to exercise my arms about every other day...either just by moving them about or by very small one pound hand weights. My question is Have any of you had to give up arm exercise due to pain ? I think I will stop for a while since this nagging pain in shoulder seems real bad now. Also i'm not sure if a doctor can help this issue or not ? Thanks for any input or suggestions. Dan c-6 MerryChristmas everybody, my prayers go out to you folks who are having serious medical issues. I am only 4 years post but, 2 years ago, I made up my mind after coming to know many 10, 20+ years post injury peers that I should try to do something proactive for my shoulders. 1 choice was to not use a manual chair ever, the other was to workout 3-5 times/week. I was beginning to have problems like Dan so I went to a P T. I learned from him how to use my shoulders correctly. Essentially, I lock my shoulder into place before I use it. It is a simple action, but did take some training. If you have some P T access, consider doing what I did. I no longer have any clunky, noisy sounds and only occasional pain after a hard workout. Best health and GOOD STUFF to all, Brien
Re: [QUAD-L] About torn roter cuff and shoulder pain
Better see a doctor don't put it off. Hubby has trouble with his shoulders, he has been in the chair for 54 yrs. and he has a lot of shoulder pain. After all your shoulders were not meant to do the job they are doing. Putting off going to the doc. just makes matters worse. Good Luck
Re: [QUAD-L] About torn roter cuff and shoulder pain
Brien, Dude, go to the doctor! ;-) Steph
[QUAD-L] murderball
Well, I just finished the movie Murderball. A pretty good movie, but not as moving as Rory Oshea. Plus, it seemed to have an underlying tone of anger. And, I'd be curious to know how many of us have developed our biceps and deltoids like these guys. I have both those muscles, but I'm still weak as a mouse. How about you guys?
RE: [QUAD-L] Shampoo Ring
John... When you are stuck in bed, instead of using the dry shampoo, you might consider obtaining an inflatable shampoo ring that allows you to get your hair wash while in bed. The water drains through a plastic tube on the bottom-outside edge of the ring. I use a plastic trash can to catch the water. I have been using one for years and take in with me on travel, hospital visits, etc. You just have to replace them now and then as they are not very durable. You can see and order one at the following site: http://www.alimed.com/ProductDetail.asp?style=8231&fprd=Shampoo+Tray&oid1=&oid2= Steve From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:35 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] college Berry Christmas all, It is entirely possible that those comments were directed at me. altho, most of the quads I went to therapy with are deceased. Maybe I'm just old. I have never seen statistics that were kept on it. when I did go to college I was consistently reminded of the cost to the bureau of vocational rehabilitation. I also have a persistent skin problem in the fold area at the top of my leg. It didn't react to the time that I spent laying on my side. Recently, I discovered that sore responds to an appointment that was prescribed for eczema; is called dexamethasone/bacitracin. This ointment works like magic on it. I hate doing better rest and I despise the dry shampoo. I wish you the best Stacey. Happy holidays, john In a message dated 12/20/2005 9:10:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi John,I have never heard that we were a high suicide rate? What is the percentage. Thank you.DanaReturn-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Received: from rly-yj06.mx.aol.com (rly-yj06.mail.aol.com [172.18.180.144]) by air-yj04.mail.aol.com (v107.13) with ESMTP id MAILINYJ42-82543a6f5a82f5; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:03:00 -0500Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (ultra5.eskimo.com [204.122.16.68]) by rly-yj06.mx.aol.com (v108.32) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYJ67-82543a6f5a82f5; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:02:18 -0500Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBJI1nDM021598; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:01:54 -0800Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.13.4/8.12.10/Submit) id jBJI1h6P021515; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:01:43 -0800Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:01:43 -0800X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -fDomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VqnJ+uNpXmKS6LpMxPHeK6iwuOA3CNCrn3Q3fmWXyBQi+k+KV8cRHFCwWw7XoON6; h=Received:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date:Content-Type:X-Mailer:From:References:To:Subject:X-FID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP;MIME-Version: 1.0Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:47:19 -0600 (Central Standard Time)Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="Boundary-00=_VQARQL80"X-Mailer: IncrediMail (4001874)From: "QuadPirate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, , <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] collegeX-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE---X-Priority: 3Reply-To: "QuadPirate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>X-ELNK-Trace: 329ba9ee3fc1c4fff21c5f5255d6c174239a348a220c26097a7ce4ee2d90ad64b540c3ad555410e293caf27dac41a8fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9cX-Originating-IP: 4.253.69.56Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.comX-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95588X-Loop: quad-list@eskimo.comList-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: listResent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-AOL-IP: 204.122.16.68 Suicide? This is news to me. Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/17/05 14:48:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] college Quads are often discouraged to get higher education because we are such high suicide risks and why put a lot of money into someone is this physically limited. You got to stay on them. Don't let them make verbal promises to you.. Get them to put it in writing. Don't be afraid to call your state representative. john
Re: [QUAD-L] college
Berry Christmas all, It is entirely possible that those comments were directed at me. altho, most of the quads I went to therapy with are deceased. Maybe I'm just old. I have never seen statistics that were kept on it. when I did go to college I was consistently reminded of the cost to the bureau of vocational rehabilitation. I also have a persistent skin problem in the fold area at the top of my leg. It didn't react to the time that I spent laying on my side. Recently, I discovered that sore responds to an appointment that was prescribed for eczema; is called dexamethasone/bacitracin. This ointment works like magic on it. I hate doing better rest and I despise the dry shampoo. I wish you the best Stacey. Happy holidays, john In a message dated 12/20/2005 9:10:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi John,I have never heard that we were a high suicide rate? What is the percentage. Thank you.DanaReturn-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Received: from rly-yj06.mx.aol.com (rly-yj06.mail.aol.com [172.18.180.144]) by air-yj04.mail.aol.com (v107.13) with ESMTP id MAILINYJ42-82543a6f5a82f5; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:03:00 -0500Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (ultra5.eskimo.com [204.122.16.68]) by rly-yj06.mx.aol.com (v108.32) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYJ67-82543a6f5a82f5; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:02:18 -0500Received: from ultra5.eskimo.com (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBJI1nDM021598; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:01:54 -0800Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by ultra5.eskimo.com (8.13.4/8.12.10/Submit) id jBJI1h6P021515; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:01:43 -0800Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:01:43 -0800X-Authentication-Warning: ultra5.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -fDomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=VqnJ+uNpXmKS6LpMxPHeK6iwuOA3CNCrn3Q3fmWXyBQi+k+KV8cRHFCwWw7XoON6; h=Received:MIME-Version:Message-Id:Date:Content-Type:X-Mailer:From:References:To:Subject:X-FID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP;MIME-Version: 1.0Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:47:19 -0600 (Central Standard Time)Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="Boundary-00=_VQARQL80"X-Mailer: IncrediMail (4001874)From: "QuadPirate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, , <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] collegeX-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE---X-Priority: 3Reply-To: "QuadPirate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>X-ELNK-Trace: 329ba9ee3fc1c4fff21c5f5255d6c174239a348a220c26097a7ce4ee2d90ad64b540c3ad555410e293caf27dac41a8fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9cX-Originating-IP: 4.253.69.56Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.comX-Mailing-List: archive/latest/95588X-Loop: quad-list@eskimo.comList-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: listResent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-AOL-IP: 204.122.16.68 Suicide? This is news to me. Mark ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/17/05 14:48:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] college Quads are often discouraged to get higher education because we are such high suicide risks and why put a lot of money into someone is this physically limited. You got to stay on them. Don't let them make verbal promises to you.. Get them to put it in writing. Don't be afraid to call your state representative. john
Re: [QUAD-L] About torn roter cuff and shoulder pain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few weeks back, there was some talk of injured shoulders and pain. My left arm has never had near as good of control as my right since my injury., and lately it has been getting awful pain and even makes some noise as I try to work out and exercise my arms. I am pretty sure it must be a torn roter cuff in my shoulder. Last night I had severe pain in it while just trying to sleep.I try to exercise my arms about every other day...either just by moving them about or by very small one pound hand weights. My question is Have any of you had to give up arm exercise due to pain ? I think I will stop for a while since this nagging pain in shoulder seems real bad now. Also i'm not sure if a doctor can help this issue or not ? Thanks for any input or suggestions. Dan c-6 MerryChristmas everybody, my prayers go out to you folks who are having serious medical issues. I am only 4 years post but, 2 years ago, I made up my mind after coming to know many 10, 20+ years post injury peers that I should try to do something proactive for my shoulders. 1 choice was to not use a manual chair ever, the other was to workout 3-5 times/week. I was beginning to have problems like Dan so I went to a P T. I learned from him how to use my shoulders correctly. Essentially, I lock my shoulder into place before I use it. It is a simple action, but did take some training. If you have some P T access, consider doing what I did. I no longer have any clunky, noisy sounds and only occasional pain after a hard workout. Best health and GOOD STUFF to all, Brien
Re: [QUAD-L] College - worth the effort?
Amen to that ! W In a message dated 12/20/05 11:18:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << EDUCATION IS NEVER WRONG-BUT HAVE A GOAL-GET A JOB---CHEERS R >>
[QUAD-L] About torn roter cuff and shoulder pain
A few weeks back, there was some talk of injured shoulders and pain. My left arm has never had near as good of control as my right since my injury., and lately it has been getting awful pain and even makes some noise as I try to work out and exercise my arms. I am pretty sure it must be a torn roter cuff in my shoulder. Last night I had severe pain in it while just trying to sleep.I try to exercise my arms about every other day...either just by moving them about or by very small one pound hand weights. My question is Have any of you had to give up arm exercise due to pain ? I think I will stop for a while since this nagging pain in shoulder seems real bad now. Also i'm not sure if a doctor can help this issue or not ? Thanks for any input or suggestions. Dan c-6
