[RBW] Re: Anyone used a large Saddleback for touring?
Did a lot of hostel/B&B touring in Ireland and Britain using only large Carradice saddlebag and it worked well. I wanted to carry a handlebar bag too, and I would carry one today on my bikes that have friendly geometry for a boxy front bag. But back then I was touring on my 80s lugged race bike (longer wheelbase and room for 32s and fenders) but with long stem that didn't get along at all with a front bag. Having the bag attached well side to side, and supported enough to prevent sway is important. But a saddle bag with 20 lbs will still give the bike a slower pendulum feel out of the saddle, and be careful walking the bike because the back end can get away from you. I carried a musette in the saddlebag that I'd use to carry groceries or lunch. I could stop in town or anywhere that had something tasty, get the musette out and carry provisions to wherever I wanted to use them. To a park or beach or mountain overlook to eat (and swim). Or on to the hostel to cook up dinner. I used/use the same Carradice set up for commuting usually with a home-brew quick release for the bag. For touring I always detached the bag to bring it into the hostel or B&B, or to visit a cathedral or museum, or carry it to my seat on the train. I didn't use a quick release on every trip though, and it depended on how solid my current QR set up was. QR is vital for commuting but for touring I found it more important to have a secure connection than a QR. But some of my QR setups were plenty secure. I did some trips with front low-rider panniers only and that was good too, and could potentially hold more. Overall I preferred the big saddlebag for tours and commuting. Ive done some recent trips using only a large (Docena) front bag which holds as much, or almost as much, as a Nelson, and I can do credit card touring with it alone. To carry more, I'm likely to add the Nelson back rather than add lowriders, but I'll probably experiment with both again, all over. --Mitch -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Fireman seeks certification in endurance dog chasing in full gear
Just another little vignette of daily life in Teller County, Colorado On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Amusing head scratcher. Heading for home on CR 21 (my main artery to most > places I ride) I’m cruising with a wonderful down-hill tail wind, way above > my spin-out of my Quickbeam’s high gear of 40/16. Two large dogs, one a pit > bull are loping toward me, tongues hanging way out, one of them with his > rear nearly to the side. Chasing behind and rapidly loosing ground in a > fireman in full suit, including full face mask and oxygen take and > rebreather unit. He’s waving and calling to the dogs, who pay him no mind. > > Unsure if the dogs are friendly I debate whether to zip on by, but > curiosity gets the better of me. There is no fire truck or other fire > fighters in sight and no obvious place they might be close by. He’s > apparently earning his certification in dog control in full gear. Is it a > volunteer fire department hazing? > > I slow down enough that the dogs follow me back to him, but (unshockingly) > when they see him in his mask and hear him speak like Darth Vader calling > them to him, they take off back up the road. He speeds up after them as I > pass. I shrug my shoulders and let the wind take me home. > > With abandon, > Patrick > > www.CredoFamily.org > www.MindYourHeadCoop.org > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- *30% Supply and Demand discount, listmembers only, on all resume, LinkedIn, and writing services, until Demand equals Supply! And there's more! 10% kickback for any referral resulting in fully paid, list-price contract. And still more! I am offering services in trade for a road bike, or frame and parts, that are period compatible with my AM hub, circa 1937 to 1961. See my website for what I do and what I charge; email for details.* Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ** ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What 'fast' tires for Rivendell Atlantis?
I put RTP's on and won't go back. I'm not any faster or slower than when I had 1.50 s on my Atlantis. But fast is beyond my reach now. I figure if I can rde the same route in the same amount of time on RTP's vs 1.50 tires with the same effort and super compfy it's all good.. On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 10:11:46 AM UTC-5, Clayton wrote: > > Compass Rat Traps if you have 26" wheels. I have them on my Atlantis and > can't say enough good things about them. I run the Extra lights, on my > 'car', so they get tons of use. The tread is holding up well, much better > than I thought they would. When these wear out, I'll probably run the > regular RT's for the slightly thicker sidewall. (I haven't had a problem > with sidewall tears, yet). The ride of these tires. is luxuriously > ridiculous. I never should have bought them. It will be hard to go to a > lesser tire, so I am wedded to these for life. They are expensive but worth > it. So beware(I am currently saving for a pair of Barlow Pass for my > cyclocross bike). Don't buy a pair unless you are willing to buy another > set, and another and anotherlol... > > Clayton Bailey > #dirtdancedesigns > > > On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 6:39:16 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote: >> >> I may be getting rid of my other geared road bike and may just see how I >> do with the Atlantis as my all-arounder in the mean time. >> I currently have the RTP tires on it that are pretty great for dirt and >> gravel. Something else maybe for a 'racier' set? (yes, i just asked for a >> racey version of the Atlantis, LOL) >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Fireman seeks certification in endurance dog chasing in full gear
Amusing head scratcher. Heading for home on CR 21 (my main artery to most places I ride) I’m cruising with a wonderful down-hill tail wind, way above my spin-out of my Quickbeam’s high gear of 40/16. Two large dogs, one a pit bull are loping toward me, tongues hanging way out, one of them with his rear nearly to the side. Chasing behind and rapidly loosing ground in a fireman in full suit, including full face mask and oxygen take and rebreather unit. He’s waving and calling to the dogs, who pay him no mind. Unsure if the dogs are friendly I debate whether to zip on by, but curiosity gets the better of me. There is no fire truck or other fire fighters in sight and no obvious place they might be close by. He’s apparently earning his certification in dog control in full gear. Is it a volunteer fire department hazing? I slow down enough that the dogs follow me back to him, but (unshockingly) when they see him in his mask and hear him speak like Darth Vader calling them to him, they take off back up the road. He speeds up after them as I pass. I shrug my shoulders and let the wind take me home. With abandon, Patrick www.CredoFamily.org www.MindYourHeadCoop.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riding Ring the Peak
Well, remember the Snoqualmies are marked as 44mm, so they are well under 50. After a few weeks of riding at 35-40psi my rear tire is 33mm on 26 outside width Atlas rims. While I was impressed with their float over the few sandy and loose rock areas, they don't turn sharply on technical loose stuff, especially inclined (the main place lugs would help). I suspect you need the wider 2.1" or greater width, and your Furious Freds are excellent at that. I'd stick with the thinnest least protection 2.1" tires I could get that have side lugs if I was riding a lot of sandy areas like I imagine you do. I'll cross post my observations here and on the blog post (I first posted them in the Go-fast Atlantis thread): On my ride yesterday on 25-30 miles of singletrack, 20 miles of dirt and paved roads I definitely experienced the grip of wider supple tires (the 44s had a lot more grip than even the 38mm Barlow Pass on the same trails) and the climbing ease, even over rocks and roots. I climbed up and over things I spun out on with my Thunder Burts. Plus the ease of control and handling is improved with the smaller tire (greater balance/confidence in steering). So from my own experience, I can definitely see where Jan is coming from in keeping larger wheel sizes' tires lower in diameter. But I wonder if there is room for a 50-55mm 29er all rounder tire? Re the pipe: I have no worries (doesn't mean there aren't inherent risks), but I experience pipes and their smoke as completely different from cigarettes and their smoke (which I find revolting at 300 yards). With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 12:06:22 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Beautiful photos, as usual. > > What is the actual width of the S P tires, and how wide are the rims they > are mounted on (please say if the width is inside or outside). I expect > that on 33 mm outside rims the SPs would still measure well under 50 mm, > but if they run big, I'd be very tempted to replace my F Freds with them. > > 'Nother question: smoking a pipe: do you worry about ill health effects? > I'd love to start a pipe again, but fear the consequences, this 21 years > after I quit cigarettes. > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Deacon Patrick > wrote: > >> Today’s ride, in which I have a pipe in a meadow, write, climb, hop rocks >> and roots, climb, descend, have another pipe, and head home. >> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/single-track-snoqualmie >> >> With abandon, >> Patrick >> >> www.CredoFamily.org >> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > *30% Supply and Demand discount, listmembers only, on all resume, > LinkedIn, and writing services, until Demand equals Supply! And there's > more! 10% kickback for any referral resulting in fully paid, list-price > contract. And still more! I am offering services in trade for a road bike, > or frame and parts, that are period compatible with my AM hub, circa 1937 > to 1961. See my website for what I do and what I charge; email for details.* > > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten > ** > ** > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Anyone used a large Saddleback for touring?
Mike: would love to see pix. My wife and I are planning 1-2 week tour in Finland in August after a music festival and considering using large Sackvilles instead of panniers. We're fling Finnair. Where did you store the Pika Packworks while on tour? And have you come across any bag that would allow you not to detach the derailleur and handlebars (e.g., just turning handlebars, and removing pedals and wheels)? Sean El Cerrito, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What 'fast' tires for Rivendell Atlantis?
Ha! Well, Jan's "Kool-Aid" says if you have rough trails or roads you may want the standard for the thicker sidewall, so you kind of are drinking the Kool-Aid. Grin. If you haven't seen it, this blog post explores some of the differences in tire sizes and why Jan's sized them the way he has for different wheel sizes (I personally would love a 50-55mm 700c tire). https://janheine.wordpress.com/2017/06/21/choosing-your-tires/ Also he has a post somewhere about the Rat Trap tires and how he dials in the pressure. It could be you simply want a higher pressure for roads in your Rat Traps and then let out air when you get the to trails, reinstall when back to the roads. That's a LOT easier than swapping tires or wheel sets. I'm always amazed by how long people who drive to trails spend at the trail head getting ready to ride. I have no idea what they are doing. I've had cars carelessly and even dangerously pass me a few miles of climbing from the trail head with bikes on their racks, then see them still getting ready at the trail head. So, three minutes adjusting tire pressure at the trail had in comparison seems like nothing. Grin. On my ride yesterday on 25-30 miles of singletrack, 20 miles of dirt and paved roads I definitely experienced the grip of wider supple tires (the 44s had a lot more grip than even the 38mm Barlow Pass on the same trails) and the climbing ease, even over rocks and roots. I climbed up and over things I spun out on with my Thunder Burts. Plus the ease of control and handling is improved with the smaller tire (greater balance/confidence in steering). So from my own experience, I can definitely see where Jan is coming from in keeping larger wheel sizes' tires lower in diameter. But I wonder if there is room for a 50-55mm 29er all rounder tire? With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 9:27:42 PM UTC-6, Belopsky wrote: > > the Rat Trap Pass but not the EL. Roads here are terrible and I didn't > drink all of Jan's Kool-Aid. ;) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riding Ring the Peak
Beautiful photos, as usual. What is the actual width of the S P tires, and how wide are the rims they are mounted on (please say if the width is inside or outside). I expect that on 33 mm outside rims the SPs would still measure well under 50 mm, but if they run big, I'd be very tempted to replace my F Freds with them. 'Nother question: smoking a pipe: do you worry about ill health effects? I'd love to start a pipe again, but fear the consequences, this 21 years after I quit cigarettes. On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Today’s ride, in which I have a pipe in a meadow, write, climb, hop rocks > and roots, climb, descend, have another pipe, and head home. > http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/single-track-snoqualmie > > With abandon, > Patrick > > www.CredoFamily.org > www.MindYourHeadCoop.org > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- *30% Supply and Demand discount, listmembers only, on all resume, LinkedIn, and writing services, until Demand equals Supply! And there's more! 10% kickback for any referral resulting in fully paid, list-price contract. And still more! I am offering services in trade for a road bike, or frame and parts, that are period compatible with my AM hub, circa 1937 to 1961. See my website for what I do and what I charge; email for details.* Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ** ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Bike Shop in Cleveland, Ohio Area
No direct experience but Hubbub is a tandem and custom oriented bike shop in Cleveland. I suspect they could help you out. Mike C Bellbrook OH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Parts Bin Purge
The best, they're forged. I'd let these go for $900 shipped. On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 9:27:36 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote: > > Those must be some REALLY, REALLY NICE brake levers for $1,000.00!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Parts Bin Purge
Those must be some REALLY, REALLY NICE brake levers for $1,000.00!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Parts Bin Purge
Here's what's left with reduced prices. Please send me an offer if what I'm asking is too high. I'd really like to move these items along. All prices include shipping to the lower 48. Thanks, Brian Pics: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0f5oqs3qoC3C3 *Racks* Nitto Campee Big Racks - Front and Rear 33R and 34F - These are in beautiful condition - $330 for the pair. Nitto M18 - New - $75 Nitto R10 rear rack - Beautiful condition - $70 *Wheels* 650b Wheelset - 36H / 135 spacing Velocity Synergy rims with Shimano Deore hubs - Low, low milage - $175 *Tires *- These are all in great shape, see photos. Take them all together for $95 shipped. Fatty Rumpkin 650b x 41.5 - $30 Schwalbe Marathon 650b x 40 - $30 Soma New Express 650b x 38 - $30 Vittoria Zaffiro 700c x 25 - $25 *Helmets* NOS Bern Macon - $25 NOS Uvex FP3 - $30 *Seat Posts* Paul Components Tall and Handsome Seat Post - Black 27.2 - New - $90 JPR Seat Post - 26mm - $15 NOS in box Campagnolo Superleggero Seat Post - 25.8 - $80 *Brakes / Levers* Campagnolo Veloce Power-Shift Ergo Control Levers Shifters 10s - New in box - $70 TRP RRL drillium brake levers - Black Hoods - Like New - $60 Origin 8 Pro Force Aero Levers - New - $15 Generic Brake Levers - New - $1000.00 *and some More* Shimano Deore XT Front Derailleur Top Pull - FD-M781 - $20 Stem - Kalloy - 60mm - $15 MKS pedals - $15 Sugino XD2 Triple Crankset - 172.5mm 24-36-48T - $50 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What 'fast' tires for Rivendell Atlantis?
Compass Rat Traps if you have 26" wheels. I have them on my Atlantis and can't say enough good things about them. I run the Extra lights, on my 'car', so they get tons of use. The tread is holding up well, much better than I thought they would. When these wear out, I'll probably run the regular RT's for the slightly thicker sidewall. (I haven't had a problem with sidewall tears, yet). The ride of these tires. is luxuriously ridiculous. I never should have bought them. It will be hard to go to a lesser tire, so I am wedded to these for life. They are expensive but worth it. So beware(I am currently saving for a pair of Barlow Pass for my cyclocross bike). Don't buy a pair unless you are willing to buy another set, and another and anotherlol... Clayton Bailey #dirtdancedesigns On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 6:39:16 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote: > > I may be getting rid of my other geared road bike and may just see how I > do with the Atlantis as my all-arounder in the mean time. > I currently have the RTP tires on it that are pretty great for dirt and > gravel. Something else maybe for a 'racier' set? (yes, i just asked for a > racey version of the Atlantis, LOL) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What 'fast' tires for Rivendell Atlantis?
I'm riding Continental's Travel Contact 1.75. Really like and work on dirt too. On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 6:39:16 PM UTC-7, Belopsky wrote: > > I may be getting rid of my other geared road bike and may just see how I > do with the Atlantis as my all-arounder in the mean time. > I currently have the RTP tires on it that are pretty great for dirt and > gravel. Something else maybe for a 'racier' set? (yes, i just asked for a > racey version of the Atlantis, LOL) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What 'fast' tires for Rivendell Atlantis?
Igor, I'm on the same quest! I'm not trying to turn the Atlantis into a crit bike, but I have limited space and I really want an all-rounder. The Atlantis felt a bit ploddy with Schwalbes on it. I'm now running Compass Snoqualmies on my 61cm Atlantis. Another thing that made me a bit zippier: the taking the bag off the front and trying the pedal cadence techniques some folks on the Bunch shared. The Snoqualmies are definitely zippy, but I'm getting killed with flats in the Hudson County NJ area. I had four flats on three consecutive rides. I'm considering Soma Shikoros. Curious, what do you consider "fast" for your Atlantis? On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 10:20:53 AM UTC-4, RichS wrote: > > 26 x 1.75 hits the mark for my mostly road riding Atlantis. Basically a > Pasela tread; the first model Compass offered in that size. Superseded by > the 1.8 Dave mentions in his reply. > > FWIW I've also used 1.5 Paselas. Not bad but prefer the slightly larger > size. > > Regards, > Richard > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] What 'fast' tires for Rivendell Atlantis?
26 x 1.75 hits the mark for my mostly road riding Atlantis. Basically a Pasela tread; the first model Compass offered in that size. Superseded by the 1.8 Dave mentions in his reply. FWIW I've also used 1.5 Paselas. Not bad but prefer the slightly larger size. Regards, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Anyone used a large Saddleback for touring?
Dave! Awesome! May all our tests go as well as yours! Grin. Tips for the times you noticed the higher CG: 1: Yes. A bike not moving yet with weight handles far more sensitively to gravity vs when moving than an unloaded bike does. Become sensitive to keeping it vertical and this becomes a non-issue, and is self-reinforcing. Grin. 2: When standing to climb, keep the bike more vertical, so less or no rocking about. When standing to stretch, hug the saddle with your thighs. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 7:34:10 AM UTC-6, Dave Small wrote: > > Thanks, all, for the tips and feedback. Yesterday I installed the large > Saddlesack, loaded it with 16 lbs of bottled water, and took it out for 53 > miles. I had a small Trunksack in front instead of the Acorn Boxy Rando > I'll take on the trip, but I figured that wouldn't affect my major decision > which was Saddlesack or panniers in the back. Most of the trip there was a > moderate crosswind, which was a worse-case scenario for the top-heavy > effect I was testing. > > The bike handled very well, and I could tell right away that it would be > fine. I'll take the Saddleback on the trip. I noticed the top-heaviness > only under 2 circumstances: > > 1. When I was tilting the bike toward me to mount or dismount it. The > first time I did it I was caught off guard and almost dropped the bike, but > after that I expected it and it wasn't a problem. > > 2. When I stood on the pedals and coasted to give my butt a 10-second > break, the bike wanted to sway more than it normally does. My raised > body contributed to the overall top-heaviness, but I could feel it more > than I do when I do that on an unloaded bike. It wasn't a problem, just > something I noticed. > > Overall I was quite happy with this configuration. > > Marc, thanks for the link. I know what items I'm gonna take and know I > can fight the urge to take more, although I'll probably throw in an extra > shirt and pair of shorts if there's lots of extra room. > > Jeff, that's an interesting progression of luggage options, which based on > your description comes from lots of experimentation. Did you rank front > panniers ahead of rear panniers because it handles better or because of > other considerations, such as relieving some stress from the rear wheel? > > Weth, I'll post some pics when I get back, as well as general impressions. > > > Palmer, I don't know the route yet. Most or all of it in Michigan will be > along USBR35, but I'll also have a Garmin Edge Touring and may sometimes > follow that "off course" if it takes me that way. If M22 is part of USBR35 > then I'm sure I'll be on it. I've read that the bike route is well-marked, > and I'm hoping that's true. It'll be my first experience with a USBR. I've > also read that US bike routes aren't always the best available route > because they had to get local communities to agree to be part of it, and > sometimes the local communities---for one reason or another---didn't want > that to be on it. The Garmin won't pay any attention to that objection, if > it's working properly (which it did yesterday, but it hasn't always in the > past). We're starting on July 1 from Bear Lake and will be spending nights > in Ludington, Muskegon, Saugatuck, and Bridgman, MI, and then in Plymouth > and Peru, IN. The Michigan stops look like good places with plenty to do; > the Indiana stops not so much but they seemed like the best options > available. > > > > On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 6:19:38 AM UTC-4, Palmer wrote: >> >> Hello Dave, >> Are you Riding M22? I live along BR35 near Muskegon and you will have a >> wonderful ride. My favorite is from Manistee to Sleeping Bear and >> northward. When are you going? I will be there July 5-7, not sure where I >> will start. Free parking at the Manistee Airport is very compelling but I >> want to explore father north too. As stated already try different things, >> you will adjust to he handling quickly as long as not carry too much >> weight. M22 has some good hills, last trip hit 42 mph with 25 lbs on the >> bike. High speed stability is a good thing. This was on a Schwinn Passage >> with front panniers, a rack and basket, and small saddlebag. >> Have fun, >> Tom Palmer >> Twin Lake, MI > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Anyone used a large Saddleback for touring?
Max S, I friend and I went for three weeks in early September. I did extensive trip planning, which is part of the fun for me. The goal was to spend the time climbing many of the pass made famous in the Tour de France. I used a combination of Google Maps and the Michelin Road Atlas. I then cut out the pages and made up cue cards for each day. My buddy had his IPhone as navigation backup. Worked out very well. I did book hotels ahead of time not knowing the demand in small towns that time of year. Next time I wouldn't bother except for first, last, and a few nights in between to give us more flexibility, although it all worked out just fine. The only real option for getting your bike there is to take it with you on the plane. Other options a more expensive and less convenient. We used Pika Packworks bags, which are fairly compact soft sided bags and were not charged the $200 fee from DAY. The worker at the counter comments on the size and we just smiled and said something about how light it was and she just took it to the conveyor. Departing from Geneva we split up during checkin and again my bike made it through without charge but my friend was charged the $200. I packed based on my own experience of what I need. Most hotels had secure areas where we could keep our bikes; they were never kept out in the open. It was a real dream tour come true! PM me for more details and photos. Mike C -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Anyone used a large Saddleback for touring?
Thanks, all, for the tips and feedback. Yesterday I installed the large Saddlesack, loaded it with 16 lbs of bottled water, and took it out for 53 miles. I had a small Trunksack in front instead of the Acorn Boxy Rando I'll take on the trip, but I figured that wouldn't affect my major decision which was Saddlesack or panniers in the back. Most of the trip there was a moderate crosswind, which was a worse-case scenario for the top-heavy effect I was testing. The bike handled very well, and I could tell right away that it would be fine. I'll take the Saddleback on the trip. I noticed the top-heaviness only under 2 circumstances: 1. When I was tilting the bike toward me to mount or dismount it. The first time I did it I was caught off guard and almost dropped the bike, but after that I expected it and it wasn't a problem. 2. When I stood on the pedals and coasted to give my butt a 10-second break, the bike wanted to sway more than it normally does. My raised body contributed to the overall top-heaviness, but I could feel it more than I do when I do that on an unloaded bike. It wasn't a problem, just something I noticed. Overall I was quite happy with this configuration. Marc, thanks for the link. I know what items I'm gonna take and know I can fight the urge to take more, although I'll probably throw in an extra shirt and pair of shorts if there's lots of extra room. Jeff, that's an interesting progression of luggage options, which based on your description comes from lots of experimentation. Did you rank front panniers ahead of rear panniers because it handles better or because of other considerations, such as relieving some stress from the rear wheel? Weth, I'll post some pics when I get back, as well as general impressions. Palmer, I don't know the route yet. Most or all of it in Michigan will be along USBR35, but I'll also have a Garmin Edge Touring and may sometimes follow that "off course" if it takes me that way. If M22 is part of USBR35 then I'm sure I'll be on it. I've read that the bike route is well-marked, and I'm hoping that's true. It'll be my first experience with a USBR. I've also read that US bike routes aren't always the best available route because they had to get local communities to agree to be part of it, and sometimes the local communities---for one reason or another---didn't want that to be on it. The Garmin won't pay any attention to that objection, if it's working properly (which it did yesterday, but it hasn't always in the past). We're starting on July 1 from Bear Lake and will be spending nights in Ludington, Muskegon, Saugatuck, and Bridgman, MI, and then in Plymouth and Peru, IN. The Michigan stops look like good places with plenty to do; the Indiana stops not so much but they seemed like the best options available. On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 6:19:38 AM UTC-4, Palmer wrote: > > Hello Dave, > Are you Riding M22? I live along BR35 near Muskegon and you will have a > wonderful ride. My favorite is from Manistee to Sleeping Bear and > northward. When are you going? I will be there July 5-7, not sure where I > will start. Free parking at the Manistee Airport is very compelling but I > want to explore father north too. As stated already try different things, > you will adjust to he handling quickly as long as not carry too much > weight. M22 has some good hills, last trip hit 42 mph with 25 lbs on the > bike. High speed stability is a good thing. This was on a Schwinn Passage > with front panniers, a rack and basket, and small saddlebag. > Have fun, > Tom Palmer > Twin Lake, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Summer Parts Purge Bump + Lowered Prices
Eric, are the Silver shifters still available? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] What 'fast' tires for Rivendell Atlantis?
On an unrelated note (other than this photo contains Compass tires) - https://janheine.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/wide_vs_narrow_mr.jpg What is that bar tape? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] What 'fast' tires for Rivendell Atlantis?
Maybe you would say that Patrick, I did not. It's not what I meant and not what I intended by expressing it. You understood it as you understood it, and so I'm not going to call you stupid for that because I would not understand that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] What 'fast' tires for Rivendell Atlantis?
Oh Patrick themz are fightin' wordz ! Ahahahahahahahahahahahaahahha ! Ride On s'Moore Patrick Ride On s'Moore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Parts Bin Purge
Hi Brian, I tried to reply privately but it got kicked back to me. If the Tektro 559s are the allen style and not the bolt on style for vintage bikes, I'll take them. Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What 'fast' tires for Rivendell Atlantis?
That's what I was thinking Philip. On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 12:05:06 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote: > > Compass naches pass? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] What 'fast' tires for Rivendell Atlantis?
That's a stupid remark. Might as well say, " Riding a bike is all a matter of imagination, so you might as well stay in bed and daydream" Garth, you certainly followed your own rule, " Don't think". Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2017, at 4:32 AM, Garth wrote: > > A sense of speed is relative to the perceiver, so it really doesn't matter > what tire you'd choose because you can only compare it to your own > perceptions of yourself. > > So again, just ride brother. just ride and think not ! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What 'fast' tires for Rivendell Atlantis?
I would tend to agree with Dave. I ride a lot of dirt roads and bad pavement and find that 38 - 41 MM tires are very nice for both on the single. We run 45's on the tandem. Tires much above that seem more like they are optimized for fire trails. A little bit of tread doesn't hurt at all. Compass tires keep getting tweekd and the names changed so I've stopped bothering to keep up with all of that. Michael On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 10:23:38 PM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote: > > I took off the RTP's and switched to the compass 26x1.8" (41-42mm actual) > and much prefer them for pure road use. I don't know if they are any > faster, they may not be, but I like the road feel better. The RTP make you > feel sort of disconnected from the road. RTP's are better on the gravel > though. I actual have two sets of wheels but the other set has big bens > which are sluggish on paved surfaces but give lots of confidence and > plushness on gravel surfaces. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] What 'fast' tires for Rivendell Atlantis?
A sense of speed is relative to the perceiver, so it really doesn't matter what tire you'd choose because you can only compare it to your own perceptions of yourself. So again, just ride brother. just ride and think not ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Anyone used a large Saddleback for touring?
Hello Dave, Are you Riding M22? I live along BR35 near Muskegon and you will have a wonderful ride. My favorite is from Manistee to Sleeping Bear and northward. When are you going? I will be there July 5-7, not sure where I will start. Free parking at the Manistee Airport is very compelling but I want to explore father north too. As stated already try different things, you will adjust to he handling quickly as long as not carry too much weight. M22 has some good hills, last trip hit 42 mph with 25 lbs on the bike. High speed stability is a good thing. This was on a Schwinn Passage with front panniers, a rack and basket, and small saddlebag. Have fun, Tom Palmer Twin Lake, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
