Re: Windows scripts on Linux

[nate]

Mikevl said:
> Hi
>
> On the odd occasion I have stored scripts like smb.conf and crontab on a
> Windows file system i.e. my notebook for transporting from one Linux
> machine to another. This inevitably leads to corruption of the file.
> Characters appear to get added to the end of each line and heaven knows
> where else.
>
> Is there any way to "Clean" a file once it put back on my/any Linux
> system? I have found that dragging the file from Linux PC to Linux PC over
> the network helps but this seems extreme.

I would reccomend tarring up files before transport, that way
they are intact, permissions are intact as is ownership. gzipping
them may be a good idea too

tar -cvf filename.tar file1 file2 file3

gzip filename.tar (or bzip2 filename.tar)

then extract them at the new location..

nate





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Re: streaming

[Teodor Georgiev]

MP4live + a webcam (and namely Philips OVR-511)

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Windows scripts on Linux

[Mikevl]

Hi

On the odd occasion I have stored scripts like smb.conf and crontab on a
Windows file system i.e. my notebook for transporting from one Linux machine
to another. This inevitably leads to corruption of the file. Characters
appear to get added to the end of each line and heaven knows where else.

Is there any way to "Clean" a file once it put back on my/any Linux system?
I have found that dragging the file from Linux PC to Linux PC over the
network helps but this seems extreme.


Many thanks

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Re: Installation problem of RH 7.3/8.0 with win2K!!!!!!

[nate]

Manoj said:
> Hello All,
> I am having 14 GB HD.
> I Partitioned it using DOS  as below.
> C:\  NTFS  4GB   Windows 2000
> D:\ FAT32  4Gb   Extended
> E:\ FAT32  3 Gb  Extended
> Remaining I left as non DOS partition for installing Linux.

what kind of disk, what kind of controller? what kind of computer?

I've never seen the linux kernel care about what kind of partition
is on the system while its scanning at that point where it freezes for
you. NTFS, HPFS, FAT, UFS, whatever, it shouldn't matter. The other
redhat 7.2 was it that spit out a timeout error is more interesting
though, can you post to the list exactly what the error is?

also, you don't need to make a non-dos partition for linux, it's best
to just leave the space unpartitioned. And by extended I assume you
mean there is 1 extended partition and D: and E: are logical drives
within it?

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Re: Kernel Header problem

[Dale Satterfield]

How?
I did a re-install, and then updated my kernel to 2.4.18-18smp. I 
installed the kernal source from the cd's, which is 2.4.18-14. It still 
has 2.4.9-9 in . I tried to include instead 
/usr/src/linux2.4/include/linux/version.h, but it includes 
 so I get two problems. It thinks I am including 
kernel headers in a user program, and I get the error message about 
wrong versions.
I have never run into this before, as the kernel headers from a CD 
always matched the installed kernel.
Dale

On Tuesday, November 26, 2002, at 08:12 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

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I just did a workstation install of RH-8. While going through the
device drivers book, I tried to test the compilation/l;oading of a
module. I get an error message on loading of "Running 2.4.18-14. Your
module was compiled for 2.4.9-9".
  2.4.9-9 is the value in /usr/include/linux/version.h. How come it
doesn't match the kernel that was installed?
I did the install from the RH CD's.  Can I just edit the version file?


No. Compile the module against the kernel headers which you find in
the "kernel-source" binary rpm. When installed, you find the kernel
headers in /usr/src/linux-2.4/include. Don't use the
"kernel-headers" package and neither the "glibc-kernheaders" package
when compiling kernel modules.

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Re: TCP not working between RH7 and RH8

[Yoink!]

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Anand Buddhdev wrote:
> HOWEVER, a TCP connection from the RH7 system to the RH8 system is not
> working. SMTP, HTTP, SSH, none are working.

I trust the RH8 installation is a newer one.. did you install and enable
all of these services? Can the RH8 box telnet to itself, etc?

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RE: du does not compute with df ?!?!?

[Darryl Harvey]

Ah ha.  You got it spot on.

llisted a huge amount of space consumed by mysql.  I restarted mysql and
now, df = du reports (Well almost, probably a few other processes need
resetting).

Thanks for the heads up!

[root@slab /]# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md1  2.9G  135M  2.6G   5% /
/dev/md0   15M  4.3M  9.6M  31% /boot
/dev/md3  8.7G  1.5G  6.7G  19% /home
/dev/hda9 1.0G   33M  957M   4% /tmp
/dev/md2  4.8G  2.7G  1.9G  58% /usr
/dev/md4  984M  173M  761M  19% /var
none  250M 0  250M   0% /dev/shm

[root@slab /]# du -csh /var
157M/var
157Mtotal

Darryl




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Darryl Harvey said:
> Hi,
>
> I am running a RH7.2 system, My /var partition is getting a bit full, but
> when I run some tests to find out where all the files are I can't seem to
> account for all the space /var/ is saying that it is consuming.

some file(s) were deleted but the process(s) using those files have
not closed the files. So the space is not freed. du reports only on
the files it can see, df reports on the actual space(something like
that).

you can use lsof to see what processes are using /var, once you
restart them(or if you wnat, try to track down which process(s)
are using the file(s) that were deleted, possibly by you?) restart
only those processes not all of them and the space will get freed
immediately.

either that or there is some filesystem curroption, very very
likely that the issue is what I mention first though

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Installation problem of RH 7.3/8.0 with win2K!!!!!!

[Manoj]

Hello All,
I am having 14 GB HD.
I Partitioned it using DOS  as below.
C:\  NTFS  4GB   Windows 2000
D:\ FAT32  4Gb   Extended
E:\ FAT32  3 Gb  Extended
Remaining I left as non DOS partition for installing Linux.

I am trying to install RH 8.0 on remaining non dos partition and for this I
am booting from the RH8.0 cd1.
the system boots from Cd for installation but when it tries to check
partition, it is not proceeding further ..it gives.

Checking Partitions:
hda:
(And it stops here ...)

The same problem is also observed with RH 7.3 installation.
But for RH 7.2 installation ...at the same point (partition check) it waits
for some time around 4-5 Seconds and gives some timeout error and proceeds
further. so I could install 7.2 , but couldn't 8.0 or 7.3

What is the reason and how can I solve this? Is it because Linux cannot
detect hda as it is a NTFS partition???

Please help me!!

Thanks

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Re: du does not compute with df ?!?!?

[nate]

Darryl Harvey said:
> Hi,
>
> I am running a RH7.2 system, My /var partition is getting a bit full, but
> when I run some tests to find out where all the files are I can't seem to
> account for all the space /var/ is saying that it is consuming.

some file(s) were deleted but the process(s) using those files have
not closed the files. So the space is not freed. du reports only on
the files it can see, df reports on the actual space(something like
that).

you can use lsof to see what processes are using /var, once you
restart them(or if you wnat, try to track down which process(s)
are using the file(s) that were deleted, possibly by you?) restart
only those processes not all of them and the space will get freed
immediately.

either that or there is some filesystem curroption, very very
likely that the issue is what I mention first though

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RE: du does not compute with df ?!?!?

[Darryl Harvey]

Nope, nothing mounted; see attached /var/ dir listing...

[root@slab /]# ll /var
total 204
drwxr-xr-x   28 root root 4096 Nov  5  2001 ./
drwxr-xr-x   20 root root 4096 Nov 27 04:03 ../
drwx--2 root root 4096 Oct 26  2001 agentx/
drwxrwx---2 root vscan4096 Nov 27 15:45 amavis/
drwxr-xr-x2 pcap pcap 4096 Jun  6 20:55 arpwatch/
drwxr-xr-x7 root root 4096 Oct 26  2001 cache/
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Aug  6  1998 db/
drwxr-x---2 gdm  gdm  4096 Sep  5  2001 gdm/
drwxr-xr-x   13 root root 4096 Nov 27 14:26 lib/
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb  7  1996 local/
drwxrwxr-x4 root lock 4096 Nov 27 04:02 lock/
drwxr-xr-x   10 root root 4096 Nov 27 14:35 log/
drwxr-xr-x2 root root16384 Nov 27 14:35 lost+found/
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   10 Oct 26  2001 mail -> spool/mail/
drwxr-xr-x   16 root root 4096 Aug  3 10:20 mailman/
drwxr-xr-x2 namednamed8192 Nov 27 11:45 named/
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb  7  1996 nis/
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 13  2000 opt/
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb  7  1996 preserve/
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Nov  5  2001 proftpd/
drwxr-xr-x2 postfix  root 4096 Oct 25  2001 pwcheck/
drwxr-xr-x7 root root 4096 Nov 20 19:30 run/
drwxr-xr-x   14 root root 4096 Jun 11 23:32 spool/
drwxrwxrwt2 root root 4096 Nov 25 19:09 tmp/
drwx--2 root root 4096 Jan  9  2002 tux/
drwx--2 root root 4096 Oct 25 20:09 ucd-snmp/
drwxrwx---2 root vscan   77824 Nov 27 14:19 virusmails/
drwxr-xr-x5 root root 4096 Jun 20 01:55 www/
drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 Oct 25 18:38 yp/


Only sym link is spool/mail which is on the same partition anyway,,

I'm confused.

Rgds,
Darryl

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Chad Skinner
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: du does not compute with df ?!?!?

You don't have anything mounted under /var do you. I say a message go across
the list a while back stating that if a directory has files in it they are
hidden when a filesystem is mounted using the directory as a mount point.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darryl Harvey
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: du does not compute with df ?!?!?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am running a RH7.2 system, My /var partition is getting a bit full, but
> when I run some tests to find out where all the files are I can't seem to
> account for all the space /var/ is saying that it is consuming.
>
> When I do a "df -h"  I get the response of;
>
> [root@slab /]# df -h
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/md1  2.9G  135M  2.6G   5% /
> /dev/md0   15M  4.3M  9.6M  31% /boot
> /dev/md3  8.7G  1.5G  6.7G  19% /home
> /dev/hda9 1.0G   33M  957M   4% /tmp
> /dev/md2  4.8G  2.7G  1.9G  58% /usr
> /dev/md4  984M  777M  157M  84% /var
> none  250M 0  250M   0% /dev/shm
>
> Note: /var says 777M consumed.
>
> But if I perform a "du -ach /var" I get the result of;
>
> [many filenames deleted]
> 160M/var
> 160Mtotal
>
> So my question is, where has the remaining 617M gone ???
>
> I have traversed down each  directory in /var and cannot locate anything.
> Can someone point me in the right direction?
>
> Thanks
> Darryl
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: du does not compute with df ?!?!?

[Chad Skinner]

You don't have anything mounted under /var do you. I say a message go across
the list a while back stating that if a directory has files in it they are
hidden when a filesystem is mounted using the directory as a mount point.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darryl Harvey
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: du does not compute with df ?!?!?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am running a RH7.2 system, My /var partition is getting a bit full, but
> when I run some tests to find out where all the files are I can't seem to
> account for all the space /var/ is saying that it is consuming.
>
> When I do a "df -h"  I get the response of;
>
> [root@slab /]# df -h
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/md1  2.9G  135M  2.6G   5% /
> /dev/md0   15M  4.3M  9.6M  31% /boot
> /dev/md3  8.7G  1.5G  6.7G  19% /home
> /dev/hda9 1.0G   33M  957M   4% /tmp
> /dev/md2  4.8G  2.7G  1.9G  58% /usr
> /dev/md4  984M  777M  157M  84% /var
> none  250M 0  250M   0% /dev/shm
>
> Note: /var says 777M consumed.
>
> But if I perform a "du -ach /var" I get the result of;
>
> [many filenames deleted]
> 160M/var
> 160Mtotal
>
> So my question is, where has the remaining 617M gone ???
>
> I have traversed down each  directory in /var and cannot locate anything.
> Can someone point me in the right direction?
>
> Thanks
> Darryl
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: * Span multiple partitions with root filesystem

[Raymond Fung]

Isn't that what "LVM" (for Logical Volume Manager") being designed for ?

Regards,
Raymond.

penelope wrote:


Hi, I'm looking for information about whether it is possible to
span multiple partitions with a root filesystem.

I found this item in some coursework I am looking at and (No its not
an assignment.) As far as my experiences with Unix/Linux have gone
it isn't possible to have a single file system span multiple
partitions.

I have always believed it could be done, but that no one had ever
implemented the necessary code to make it doable.

Has this now changed? Is it now possible to have a single filesystem
spanning multiple partitions?   I looked in Google for Linux and
didn't find anything so I'm skeptical, but I would like to be
enlightened (bows eastward 3 times).

Anyone have thoughts on this either way ?

Thanks


   

Jeff ~~  my good hobbit sense makes me want to vigorously deny this
could ever be made so -- but the older I get, the more things I once
thought impossible become possible and even banal.  Logic says that
the boot block refers to a _physical_ and _unbroken_ partition, but as
disk technology becomes more and more sophisticated -- who knows??? 
As recently as 3 years ago, I tried to cajol Tru64/Compaq support into
allowing me to use hardware raid for the root partition and was
scolded for blasphemy.  But change is as inevitable as the sunrise,
and this may be on the short list.






 




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Re: swat troubleshooting

[Raymond Fung]

There could be several reasons :

1. Check your firewall setting, make sure you can connect to port 901, 
by manually telnet to this port number
2. Check that "xinetd" is really listening on this port. Try "netstat 
-na | grep 901" (or "netstat -nap | grep 901" as "root" to see which 
process is listening on this port).
3. Are you using the browser from the Linux box, or telnet from another 
machine ? SWAT's default config file only allow connection from 
127.0.0.1 only. Edit the "/etc/xinetd.d/swat" file and comment out the 
line with the "127.0.0.1" setting would allow connection from anywhere.

Regards,
Raymond.

Roger Schmeits wrote:

Have you looked with chkconfig?
chkconfig --list | grep swap

chkconfig swap on
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 06:59, Steve Hare wrote:
 

Hello,
	I am having a problem running swat.
I set up samba correctly, and can see my shares from
other computers on my network.  I just can't seem to 
make swat work.  I really don't need it badly, since I 
can make samba work with manual configuration, but
it is the perfectionist in me.  I need to make this work
for piece of mind.

Right now, when I type in //localhost:901
or 
http://127.0.0.1:901
or
http://192.168.0.2:901

it just sits there.  It says, Sending request to 
and never connects.

I put all the config files into the services file
and the /etc/xinetd.d/swat file
but still nothing.

any suggestions on how to fix this?

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du does not compute with df ?!?!?

[Darryl Harvey]

Hi,

I am running a RH7.2 system, My /var partition is getting a bit full, but
when I run some tests to find out where all the files are I can't seem to
account for all the space /var/ is saying that it is consuming.

When I do a "df -h"  I get the response of;

[root@slab /]# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md1  2.9G  135M  2.6G   5% /
/dev/md0   15M  4.3M  9.6M  31% /boot
/dev/md3  8.7G  1.5G  6.7G  19% /home
/dev/hda9 1.0G   33M  957M   4% /tmp
/dev/md2  4.8G  2.7G  1.9G  58% /usr
/dev/md4  984M  777M  157M  84% /var
none  250M 0  250M   0% /dev/shm

Note: /var says 777M consumed.

But if I perform a "du -ach /var" I get the result of;

[many filenames deleted]
160M/var
160Mtotal

So my question is, where has the remaining 617M gone ???

I have traversed down each  directory in /var and cannot locate anything.
Can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks
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Re: Newbie- How to enable FTP

[Hidong Kim]

Patrick Law wrote:

I am not sure how to enable ftp service in my linux box, what 
configuration file I should modify, and what are the stuffs need to be 
enabled? Thanks

Look in /etc/xinetd.d.  There should be configuration files for various 
services, like telnet, tftp, and wu-ftpd.  The default installation 
turns off these services.  There's a line in these configuration files 
that looks like:

disable = yes


Just change it to "no" to activate.  After you change anything in 
/etc/xinetd.d, you have to restart xinetd with "/etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd 
 restart".  You may also need to modify your /etc/hosts.allow.  On one 
of our machines, /etc/hosts.allow looks like this:

#
# hosts.allow   This file describes the names of the hosts which are
#   allowed to use the local INET services, as decided
#   by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server.
#

in.telnetd  :   LOCAL
in.ftpd :   LOCAL

ALL :   192.168.230.
ALL:127.0.0.1   255.255.255.0
swat:   127.0.0.1   192.168.230.


Good luck,



Hidong






 

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any mod_dav users?

[Jason Costomiris]

I'm running the httpd-2.x packages from RH8, rebuilt on RH 7.3.  
Working great, thus far..  Now I'm trying to configure DAV access to a 
directory..  I chgrp'd the dir to apache and made it group writeable.  
Next I setup Digest Auth on that directory, loaded mod_dav & 
mod_dav_fs.  I can connect, authenticate, mount the directory (Mac OS X 
Clients), see files, pull down files, delete files - no trouble at all 
with those operations.  However, I can't upload ANYTHING.  Every time I 
try to upload files, I get told that the file already exists.  Also 
can't create directories either..

Any suggestions?  The webdav faq wasn't helpful on this topic..

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Newbie- How to enable FTP

[Patrick Law]

I am not sure how to enable ftp service in my linux box, what configuration file I should modify, and what are the stuffs need to be enabled? Thanks

 

-Patrick

Bash Shell Script Complier

[Kevin - KD Micro Software]

Hello all,

I'm just wondering if any of you know of any "compilers" for shell
scripts.
I've been using Francisco Rosales' one (
http://www.datsi.fi.upm.es/~frosal/frosal.html ) for quite some time,
but it appears to have issues with Red Hat 8.0 so I'm looking for
alternatives.

If anyone knows of any, I'd appreciate suggestions. Thanks.

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TCP not working between RH7 and RH8

[Anand Buddhdev]

I have 2 servers, one RH7.0 and the other RH8.0. There are 2 satellite
hops between them.

I can ping each from the other (with a delay of approximately 1.2 seconds,
which is expected).

A traceroute from one to the other works fine too.

A TCP connection (eg. to port 25) from the RH8 system to the RH7 systems
works too.

HOWEVER, a TCP connection from the RH7 system to the RH8 system is not
working. SMTP, HTTP, SSH, none are working.

I am sure it is not a firewall issue, as neither box has any ipchains
or iptables rules.

In fact, when I make an SMTP connection from the RH7 system to the RH8
system, and do a tcpdump on the RH8 system, I see tcp packets going from
and to both systems. But on the RH7 system, I don't get a prompt from
the SMTP server at the other end. I don't understand TCP enough to see
what the problem might be.

RH7 system> telnet mail.bzv.cg.celtelplus.com 25
Trying 217.113.64.83...

(nothing happens)

RH8 system> tcpdump -n port 25 > /tmp/smtptrace

I have attached copy of my tcpdump output on the RH8 system. Any ideas
what might be wrong here? Do I need to do any special tuning to the IP
stack on either of the 2 boxes? If so, what parameter needs changing?

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03:22:49.930335 217.113.65.35.3168 > 217.113.64.83.smtp: S 724607617:724607617(0) win 
32768  (DF)
03:22:49.930375 217.113.64.83.smtp > 217.113.65.35.3168: S 1134538187:1134538187(0) 
ack 724607618 win 5840  (DF)
03:22:52.929201 217.113.65.35.3168 > 217.113.64.83.smtp: S 725824035:725824035(0) win 
32768  (DF)
03:22:53.766456 217.113.64.83.smtp > 217.113.65.35.3168: S 1134538187:1134538187(0) 
ack 724607618 win 5840  (DF)
03:22:56.754736 217.113.64.83.smtp > 217.113.65.35.3162: S 1039430466:1039430466(0) 
ack 697561284 win 5840  (DF)
03:22:57.861990 217.113.65.35.3162 > 217.113.64.83.smtp: R 697561284:697561284(0) win 0
03:22:58.930391 217.113.65.35.3168 > 217.113.64.83.smtp: S 727294865:727294865(0) win 
32768  (DF)
03:23:00.971035 217.113.65.35.3168 > 217.113.64.83.smtp: S 727294865:727294865(0) win 
32768  (DF)
03:23:01.137562 217.113.64.83.smtp > 217.113.65.35.3168: S 1134538187:1134538187(0) 
ack 724607618 win 5840  (DF)
03:23:10.932916 217.113.65.35.3168 > 217.113.64.83.smtp: S 731197670:731197670(0) win 
32768  (DF)
03:23:13.017882 217.113.65.35.3168 > 217.113.64.83.smtp: S 731197670:731197670(0) win 
32768  (DF)
03:23:13.289894 217.113.64.83.smtp > 217.113.65.35.3168: S 1134538187:1134538187(0) 
ack 724607618 win 5840  (DF)
03:23:34.950602 217.113.65.35.3168 > 217.113.64.83.smtp: S 738364363:738364363(0) win 
32768  (DF)
03:23:36.991408 217.113.65.35.3168 > 217.113.64.83.smtp: S 738364363:738364363(0) win 
32768  (DF)
03:23:38.789898 217.113.64.83.smtp > 217.113.65.35.3168: S 1134538187:1134538187(0) 
ack 724607618 win 5840  (DF)

Re: Firestarter 0.9.0 and RH 8.0

[mike]

On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 17:56, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
> Has anyone else had problems with Firestarter logging everything to the 
> console when running on Psyche? The relevent log entries seem to be from 
> kern, but I don't see a specified priority. Here's the relevent section 
> of my syslog.conf:
> 
> *.info;mail.none;news.none;authpriv.none;cron.none-/var/log/messages
> *.emerg   *
> 
> Unless firestarter is causing the kernel to log iptables rejections as 
> emerg, I can't see why it would be logged to the console. Anyone else 
> experiencing this?

This is getting close to a FAQ

type dmesg -n4 for a sane level


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Re: getting nfs working through the firewall

[Ryurick M. Hristev]

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Gordon Messmer wrote:

> On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 11:08, Ian wrote:
> > 
> > I opened the system settings - security level, and managed to get ssh 
> > working. But i dont know how to allow incoming nfs requests. I basically 
> > just need to allow incoming:
> 
> If you're at a medium security level, add port 111 to the list of
> allowed ports.
> 
> If you're at a high security level, it may be impossible to get NFS to
> work through your firewall, because the statd and mountd RPC services
> may bind to arbitrary ports.

Indeed. But IIRC one could force nfs to bind to specific ports.
Generally that would be a pain in the proverbial ...
However I encountered a situation where it might have been useful.

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Re: Evolution only on Redhat 8.0?

[Michael A. Peters]

On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 17:01, Rick Johnson wrote:
> > I apologize because I know this has been asked before, but I can't find my
> link to the archives (because I just rebuilt my Linux PC with Redhat 8). I
> want to use Evolution but I don't want to install all the Ximian stuff I had
> on my previous RH73 machine. I just want Evolution.
> >
> > Right now I'm downloading from
> ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/ximian/ximian-evolution/redhat-80-i386. There are a
> lot of rpms in there, about 65 meg worth I think. Do I need to install all
> of that just to run Evolution? Can anyone tell me how to install the
> minumum? I looke dat the FAQ on Ximian's web site and didn't see anything
> there about it.
> >
> 
> Evolution comes with Red Hat 8.0 - though it's only version 1.08 vs.
> Ximian's 1.20. That means the packages should already be on the RH 8.0 CDs
> 
> -Rick
Downoad Ximian Red Carpet.
You can use that to upgrade to Evolution 1.2 w/o needing to install a
bunch of crap you don't want.

Ximian has very clear and precise instructions on how to upgrade to
Evolution 1.2.0 on a Red Hat 8.0 system without installing all the stuff
you don't want.

http://www.ximian.com/products/evolution/download.html

It's about 20mb of stuff (I did it) - RPM based install - easy as cake.
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Re: Evolution only on Redhat 8.0?

[Rick Johnson]

> I apologize because I know this has been asked before, but I can't find my
link to the archives (because I just rebuilt my Linux PC with Redhat 8). I
want to use Evolution but I don't want to install all the Ximian stuff I had
on my previous RH73 machine. I just want Evolution.
>
> Right now I'm downloading from
ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/ximian/ximian-evolution/redhat-80-i386. There are a
lot of rpms in there, about 65 meg worth I think. Do I need to install all
of that just to run Evolution? Can anyone tell me how to install the
minumum? I looke dat the FAQ on Ximian's web site and didn't see anything
there about it.
>

Evolution comes with Red Hat 8.0 - though it's only version 1.08 vs.
Ximian's 1.20. That means the packages should already be on the RH 8.0 CDs

-Rick
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Re: getting nfs working through the firewall

[Gordon Messmer]

On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 11:08, Ian wrote:
> 
> I opened the system settings - security level, and managed to get ssh 
> working. But i dont know how to allow incoming nfs requests. I basically 
> just need to allow incoming:

If you're at a medium security level, add port 111 to the list of
allowed ports.

If you're at a high security level, it may be impossible to get NFS to
work through your firewall, because the statd and mountd RPC services
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Evolution only on Redhat 8.0?

[jamesredhatlist]

I apologize because I know this has been asked before, but I can't find my link to the 
archives (because I just rebuilt my Linux PC with Redhat 8). I want to use Evolution 
but I don't want to install all the Ximian stuff I had on my previous RH73 machine. I 
just want Evolution.

Right now I'm downloading from 
ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/ximian/ximian-evolution/redhat-80-i386. There are a lot of 
rpms in there, about 65 meg worth I think. Do I need to install all of that just to 
run Evolution? Can anyone tell me how to install the minumum? I looke dat the FAQ on 
Ximian's web site and didn't see anything there about it. 

Any suggestions are appreciated. 

James

IP_Masq_UDP_Dloose - RH v.6.2

[sonicsone]

Hello,

I, for a week now, have been trying figure out how to install/enable "loose 
UDP" on my RH 6.2 machine.  I am running kernel 2.2.14-50 (I know, old, but it 
should have what I need).  This box is my firewall.

I am trying to set up a Half-Life Counterstrike server on a RH 7.3 box behind 
my firewall.  I have opened up all ports on my firewall that are needed and am 
forwarding (I think) port 27015 with ipmasqadm.  I use IPChains for my firewall.

I have, in my firewall script - 
"Echo "1" = /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_masq_udp_dloose (something like that), and I 
get an error because I don't have ip_masq_udp_dloose in my /proc/sys/net/ipv4 
directory.  I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to get that on my 
machine.

I have re-compiled my machine multiple times to no avail, and am completely 
stumped.  I have searched the internet over and over, and they all say the same 
thing.  "All you have to do is enable loose UDP in your firewall script and 
make sure it is in your /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ directory.  Well, it is not in that 
directory and I don't know how to get it in there 

I am going nuts.  Can someone help me with this?

This is a common problem, but I can't find a single answer that tells what to 
do if ip_masq_udp_dloose is missing.

Thanks in advance,

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streaming

[Chris Mason]

Anyone use any webcam streaming software? Need to get a camera relayed
through a Redhat server.

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Re: Remove old kernel?

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Kevin MacNeil wrote:


On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 10:00:41AM +0800, Patrick Law wrote:
 

Sometime time I update from RHN, I will get new kernel update, after reboot,
I will be given options of new kernel together with old kernels in Grub
Menu. Currently there are about 3 kernel versions in my Grub Menu. How do I
remove the old kernel and keep only the latest kernel?
   


It's a good idea to keep the original kernel that shipped with the
distribution, just so you can use the install cd as a rescue disk if
need be.  On my rh7.2 system I have the 2.4.7.x kernel, the last 2.4.9,
the latest 2.4.18 shipped by redhat.  It doesn't hurt anything to keep
them around, and only uses a little bit of space.

I would also boot and use newer kernels for a couple of days first
before getting rid of old ones.  You can never be too careful.



 

exactly kevin! :)

Another great tip is to (unusually) never freshen (rpm -Fvh 
kernel.blah.rpm).  This will obviously
replace ur oldie with the newie, and if ur system don't like it you're 
in deep crap.
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Re: X disaster for RHCE

[Bret Hughes]

On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 17:04, Marco Shaw wrote:
> Going for my RHCE in 2 weeks.  I'm weak at X, so need to concentrate a bit
> there.  I wish I could send out a blank statement to this list like "Here's
> my root passord, hack me", then I'd try to fix it, but if I trusted you
> guys, I'd have to trust everyone.  That won't work now will it.
> 
> You guys have some good examples of X disasters, or even special setups that
> might be subject of an RHCE exam?  At least, I'll be able to impress my
> co-workers by challenging them to fix a broken workstation.  :-)
> 

Don't know squat about the exacm but seems like I lost a lot of hair due
to a filled up /tmp directory once.

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Re: New to Linux... Can't find installed packages.

[Samuel Flory]

Mike Miller wrote:


Hello everyone.  I have installed Red Hat 8 professional.  It is my first time installing Linux.  I have a few questions.  Some of the packages I installed using the "Package Management" tool are not showing up.  For example.  I selected "VNC" to be installed.  It says that it is installed successfully but I can't find it anywhere.  It isn't under any of the menus.  Also...  I installed Kerio mail server and can't find it.  I have about 5 different things that I can't find.  

 From the command line rpm -ql pacakge-name.  Example:

$ rpm -ql vnc
/usr/bin/vncviewer
/usr/share/applications/vncviewer.desktop
/usr/share/doc/vnc-3.3.3r2
/usr/share/doc/vnc-3.3.3r2/LICENCE.TXT
/usr/share/doc/vnc-3.3.3r2/README
/usr/share/man/man1/vncviewer.1.gz



Am I assuming wrong by thinking it should show up under one of the menus?  


 The vnc veiwer is under extras-> accessories under gnome on  my system.


Also...  I set it up to receive an IP address from my another dhcp server.  Where can I check in Redhat to see what IP address it received?  In W2k I can do an IPconfig.  What do I do in Redhat?
 


/sbin/ifconfig


Thanks everyone in advance...

Mike



 






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Re: libraries

[Bret Hughes]

On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 16:40, Mike Westkamper wrote:
> 
> I am building an image for loading a Linux based board via the network. It
> must be the smallest it can be. I've done a lot to minimize the size,
> including doing ldd's on everything to develop a list of what libraries I
> must include. It is very error prone and everytime I change something I have
> to do it all over again.
> 
> Does anyone know of a script or program that will transverse an image
> directory tree from a known point and either list the libraries required or
> copy them from some location to the image directory tree?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any direction...
> 
> Mike
> 
>

hmm  this might get you close.  Probably a more robust way to do it but
it looks like it works on my machine.

cd to the directory that you want to start from first of course
 
find -type f |xargs ldd |awk '/\s/{print $3}'|sort |uniq

on a failry new RHL 7.3 machine I get the following:
[bhughes@compaq3 bin]$ find -type f |xargs ldd |awk '/\s/{print
$3}'|sort |uniq

/lib/ld-linux.so.2
/lib/libcrypt.so.1
/lib/libc.so.6
/lib/libdl.so.2
/lib/libm.so.6
/lib/libnsl.so.1
/lib/libpam_misc.so.0
/lib/libpam.so.0
/lib/libproc.so.2.0.7
/lib/libpthread.so.0
/lib/libresolv.so.2
/lib/librt.so.1
/lib/libtermcap.so.2


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Re: libraries

[Cameron Simpson]

On 17:40 25 Nov 2002, Mike Westkamper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I am building an image for loading a Linux based board via the network. It
| must be the smallest it can be. I've done a lot to minimize the size,
| including doing ldd's on everything to develop a list of what libraries I
| must include. It is very error prone and everytime I change something I have
| to do it all over again.
| 
| Does anyone know of a script or program that will transverse an image
| directory tree from a known point and either list the libraries required or
| copy them from some location to the image directory tree?

There's something wrong with using the find command to run ldd on all the
executables?

Perhaps you could elaborate on what errors happen in your "error prone"
scenario; I'd have expected ldd to tell you almost everything you need.
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Re: tip equivalent

[Cameron Simpson]

On 06:07 26 Nov 2002, fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 06:34:22PM -0600, Say No To Taxes wrote:
| > I couldn't find "tip" in Linux.  What is Linux's equivalent to the SYSV 
| > "tip" command that uses /etc/remote?
| 
| The traditional answer has been "cu".
| 
| But if you're wanting some kind of terminal program there are many
| better answers, including: minicom, ckermit.

Indeed, but for myself, I definitely don't want some weirdo terminal
emulator. I just want what tip gave: connection to the serial port.

Minicom really gets in the way.

So I too use the "cu" command, usually via my "tap" wrapper script:

http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/scripts/tap

which handily runs it under screen (for access from elsewhere) and script (to
keep a log of the session for reference.

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Re: attachment to mail

[Cameron Simpson]

On 13:51 26 Nov 2002, Hidong Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Jim Baxter wrote:
| >Pardon the new guy but can anyone tell me how to use mail to send a
| >message with an attachment. I can use it to sand messages to other
| >Linux or any email address but I can't find a way to add one or more
| >attachments.
| 
| Which e-mail client are you using?  If you use Mozilla as your Web 
| browser, you can use its e-mail client.  There's a button on the main 
| toolbar of the e-mail window to attach documents.  Good luck,

He probably meant the "mail" command itself.
Try using mutt instead, eg:

mutt -s 'some subject' -a attachmentfile1 -a attachmentfile2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: package manager

[Todd A. Jacobs]

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, mono wrote:

> Hi...I install red hat 8.0 and when I try to use the package
> manager...this freeze or crash.anyone can help me???...thanks

What program are you running? What is the exact error message? What 
process freezes? What do your logs say?

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Re: Window Managers

[Todd A. Jacobs]

On 26 Nov 2002, Joe Giles wrote:

> primarily. I wish to now broaden my horizons and try a different
> Desktop. Is there other desktops besides Gnome and KDE. I read about
> Window managers, but is this the same thing? Once I install it, will

Desktop/session managers and window managers are different things. Window 
managers display the window widgets and allow the management of each 
window within the X session. The desktop environment is an additional 
layer that adds drag-and-drop, desktop icons, and other useful but not 
critical stuff.

A lot of window managers work with GNOME and KDE. Some don't. You can also
run a window manager without using a desktop environment; I often do,
especially on systems where RAM is at a premium.

There are some good books that you can read that will enhance your
knowledge of the client/server relationship between all teh various X
components, but the online Red Hat documentation is a good place to start.

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Newbie: Kernel Framebuffer Logos

[Geoffrey Lane]

Something I've been wondering for quite some time, I love the little
logo that 
appears ontop when you are loading the installation program... I heard 
someone call it a "Kernel Framebuffer Logo" on a website but no
reference on 
how to create an image to use it or how to "install" it... I'd really
love it 
if someone would help me out and tell me if it is possible and if they
would 
tell me how it's done. I'd appreciate it soo much...
I've also heard that there was a tux included in there, and to be honest
that 
would be perfect...

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setquota over nfs

[Ryurick M. Hristev]

Hello,

Apparently the setquota have an option ('-r' and/or '-F')
to set up quotas over nfs.

However I can't make it work (tried several things).

Does anybody have an working example or some gotchas ?

TIA

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Re: Xine SOS

[Ryurick M. Hristev]

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Will Mendez wrote:

> So I edit /etc/ld.so.conf and added /usr/local/lib/xine/plugins run
> ldconfig and try to install the ui package again and get the same error.

Usually this happens if you have an old xine lurking somewhere.
Check out. 

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Re: LILO vs GRUB

[Ryurick M. Hristev]

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Shaw, Marco wrote:

> Couldn't seem to find anything on-line...
> 
> With LILO, you could append a command directly to the boot argument like:
> boot: linux mem=128m
> 
> I don't see any references whether this can be done with GRUB.  Is it possible?

Read the bottom line of the bootup GRUB screen.

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Re: LILO vs GRUB

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> Couldn't seem to find anything on-line...
> 
> With LILO, you could append a command directly to the boot argument
> like: boot: linux mem=128m
> 
> I don't see any references whether this can be done with GRUB.  Is it
> possible?

Yes, it is. You can edit the kernel line with the 'e' key:

http://www.gnu.org/manual/grub/html_node/Menu-interface.html#Menu%20interface

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LILO vs GRUB

[Shaw, Marco]

Couldn't seem to find anything on-line...

With LILO, you could append a command directly to the boot argument like:
boot: linux mem=128m

I don't see any references whether this can be done with GRUB.  Is it possible?

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Xine SOS

[Will Mendez]

Hi folks!

Im having a ball trying to install XINE I install the libraries from 
xine-ui-0.9.13

by using 
./configure
make
make install
make clean

then after running ./configure from xine-ui-0.9.13 i get 


*** Could not run XINE test program, checking why...
*** The test program compiled, but did not run. This usually means
*** that the run-time linker is not finding XINE or finding the wrong
*** version of XINE. If it is not finding XINE, you'll need to set your
*** LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf to
point *** to the installed location  Also, make sure you have run
ldconfig if that*** is required on your system
***
*** If you have an old version installed, it is best to remove it,
although
*** you may also be able to get things to work by modifying
LD_LIBRARY_PATH
***
configure: error: *** You should install xine-lib first ***

So I edit /etc/ld.so.conf and added /usr/local/lib/xine/plugins run
ldconfig and try to install the ui package again and get the same error.

what am I doing wrong?

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Re: * Span multiple partitions with root filesystem

[penelope]

> Hi, I'm looking for information about whether it is possible to
> span multiple partitions with a root filesystem.
>
> I found this item in some coursework I am looking at and (No its not
> an assignment.) As far as my experiences with Unix/Linux have gone
> it isn't possible to have a single file system span multiple
> partitions.
>
> I have always believed it could be done, but that no one had ever
> implemented the necessary code to make it doable.
>
> Has this now changed? Is it now possible to have a single filesystem
> spanning multiple partitions?   I looked in Google for Linux and
> didn't find anything so I'm skeptical, but I would like to be
> enlightened (bows eastward 3 times).
>
> Anyone have thoughts on this either way ?
>
> Thanks
>
>
Jeff ~~  my good hobbit sense makes me want to vigorously deny this
could ever be made so -- but the older I get, the more things I once
thought impossible become possible and even banal.  Logic says that
the boot block refers to a _physical_ and _unbroken_ partition, but as
disk technology becomes more and more sophisticated -- who knows??? 
As recently as 3 years ago, I tried to cajol Tru64/Compaq support into
allowing me to use hardware raid for the root partition and was
scolded for blasphemy.  But change is as inevitable as the sunrise,
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Re: attachment to mail

[Hidong Kim]

Jim Baxter wrote:

Pardon the new guy but can anyone tell me how to use mail to send a
message with an attachment. I can use it to sand messages to other
Linux or any email address but I can't find a way to add one or more
attachments.



Hi,

Which e-mail client are you using?  If you use Mozilla as your Web 
browser, you can use its e-mail client.  There's a button on the main 
toolbar of the e-mail window to attach documents.  Good luck,



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Re: Window Managers

[Joe Giles]

Yeah, I noticed that this was installed on my Red Hat 8 already. I tried
it and it seemed cool. Not too sure how to set it up, but that is
trivial as I can learn. 

Thanks

Joe

On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 14:11, Michael A. Peters wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 12:30, Joe Giles wrote:
> > List,
> > I have been using Linux for a while, and I have used Gnome and KDE
> > primarily. I wish to now broaden my horizons and try a different
> > Desktop. Is there other desktops besides Gnome and KDE. I read about
> > Window managers, but is this the same thing? Once I install it, will
> > they come up in my Log in window as an option to log into like Gnome and
> > KDE? Can I run apps that normally run on KDE and Gnome, like Evolution
> > and GKRellm?
> > 
> > Also, if someone can point me in the right direction as to what is out
> > there.
> > 
> > Thanks a million...
> > -- 
> 
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> screenshot: http://12.233.82.128/~mpeters/images/wmaker-Screenshot.png
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Re: Window Managers

[Joe Giles]

Well, I checked out Enlightenment as a friend of mine also uses this. I
installed the RPM, but how do I log into it? I guess I'll have to do
some more reading :)

Thanks for the replies

Joe

On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 14:06, nate wrote:
> Joe Giles said:
> > List,
> > I have been using Linux for a while, and I have used Gnome and KDE
> > primarily. I wish to now broaden my horizons and try a different
> > Desktop. Is there other desktops besides Gnome and KDE. I read about
> > Window managers, but is this the same thing? Once I install it, will they
> > come up in my Log in window as an option to log into like Gnome and KDE?
> > Can I run apps that normally run on KDE and Gnome, like Evolution and
> > GKRellm?
> >
> 
> I've been using afterstep for the past 3 years or so. I started with
> fvwm95 back in '96 then moved to KDE when it first hit beta back in
> maybe 97 or 98, then switched to afterstep after that. KDE and GNOME
> include window managers but they are much more then that. They are considered
> desktop enviornemnts, and there are a couple other desktop enviornments
> available. CDE is a commonly used one in the commercial UNIX world(as far
> as I know its not free, you would have to get it from a company like Xinside),
> it's not that great though. Desktop enviornments provide a more complete
> user experience which generally includes common interfaces between apps
> (coded for the particular enviornment), built in tools such as a file manager,
> desktop(icons on desktop and stuff), configuration tools for the
> enviornment and a lot more. Many window managers don't  have the fancy
> bells and whistles. Configuration is usually done by hand(in config files),
> and they don't usually include many(if any) other applications.
> 
> Windowmaker is a very popular window manager, Enlightenment is too.
> afterstep is not as popular(one reason why I chose it back in the day is
> because not many used it). Windowmaker looks a lot like afterstep and
> behaves much like afterste. I believe it is also more flexible and more
> actively maintained.
> 
> If you add a new window manager, you probably have to configure your
> display manager(GDM, KDM etc) to show an option to load it. You can
> visit this page:
> 
> http://www.plig.org/xwinman/
> 
> to find more info about desktop enviornments and window managers, I'm
> suprised it's still up, I last used it 3-4-5 years ago.
> 
> I have gotten very used to afterstep and probably won't change again for
> the foreseeable future. Many of the features may be integrated into
> other window managers as well, but in some cases they don't behave the
> same way.
> 
> - activate on mouse over (but do NOT raise the application to foreground)
> - drag windows between virtual desktops(my desktop at work had 30 virtual
> desktops, my desktop at home has about 10)
> - window shading
> - 2 clicks to generate a screenshot or a windowshot
> - 2 clicks to kill any X application
> - able to move apps out of the way, even if it means placing them halfway
> inbetween 2 desktops
> - fast
> - lightweight
> - stable(I've never had it crash, ever)
> - left click on desktop to get the "start" menu
> - right click on desktop to get a list of running apps(click on the app and
> it switches to it)
> - customizable virtual desktops(you can have virtual desktops in "groups", I
> prefer 1 large virtual desktop, you can arrange them in many different orders)
> - fun dock apps to play with(though I rarely use them anymore people are
> always facinated it seems by the dock apps I have running with the various
> meters and flashing lights)
> 
> many people I talk to don't like or need the above features. It's funny
> though, people don't realize they need something until they have it. I had
> no need to do most of the above 5 years ago, but now I find it frustrating to
> use systems that don't have it(or don't have it configured).
> 
> it's a simple window manager, no bells and whistles. and even further I am
> not running the current version, I am running the same one I was running more
> then 2 years ago(1.6). Because the newer version changed some behaviors that
> I liked in the older one, so I recompiled and stuck to the older one. It's
> a self contained application unlike a desktop enviornment, and can co-exist
> peacefully(nothing else depends upon it, and it doesn't depend on anything
> special either). If you were for some reason wanting to run KDE 1 you may
> have some trouble getting it to co-exist with the rest of the system(probably
> not impossible, but not nearly as easy as with a simple windowmanger).
> 
> currently my desktop is quite bare, its 1600x1200 and if there is no app
> on the screen the only thing visible is the wallpaper and a little 1"x1" clock
> in the lower right corner(the dock spends most of it's time collapsed).
> sometimes I even remove the wharf/dock entirely. a screenshot of my desktop
> that I took a year ago(1200x1024):
> 
> http://portal.aphroland.org/images/x-des

attachment to mail

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Re: New to Linux... Can't find installed packages.

[Herman Buel]

ifconfig
 Mike Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: Window Managers

[Michael A. Peters]

On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 12:30, Joe Giles wrote:
> List,
> I have been using Linux for a while, and I have used Gnome and KDE
> primarily. I wish to now broaden my horizons and try a different
> Desktop. Is there other desktops besides Gnome and KDE. I read about
> Window managers, but is this the same thing? Once I install it, will
> they come up in my Log in window as an option to log into like Gnome and
> KDE? Can I run apps that normally run on KDE and Gnome, like Evolution
> and GKRellm?
> 
> Also, if someone can point me in the right direction as to what is out
> there.
> 
> Thanks a million...
> -- 

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Re: Window Managers

[nate]

Joe Giles said:
> List,
> I have been using Linux for a while, and I have used Gnome and KDE
> primarily. I wish to now broaden my horizons and try a different
> Desktop. Is there other desktops besides Gnome and KDE. I read about
> Window managers, but is this the same thing? Once I install it, will they
> come up in my Log in window as an option to log into like Gnome and KDE?
> Can I run apps that normally run on KDE and Gnome, like Evolution and
> GKRellm?
>

I've been using afterstep for the past 3 years or so. I started with
fvwm95 back in '96 then moved to KDE when it first hit beta back in
maybe 97 or 98, then switched to afterstep after that. KDE and GNOME
include window managers but they are much more then that. They are considered
desktop enviornemnts, and there are a couple other desktop enviornments
available. CDE is a commonly used one in the commercial UNIX world(as far
as I know its not free, you would have to get it from a company like Xinside),
it's not that great though. Desktop enviornments provide a more complete
user experience which generally includes common interfaces between apps
(coded for the particular enviornment), built in tools such as a file manager,
desktop(icons on desktop and stuff), configuration tools for the
enviornment and a lot more. Many window managers don't  have the fancy
bells and whistles. Configuration is usually done by hand(in config files),
and they don't usually include many(if any) other applications.

Windowmaker is a very popular window manager, Enlightenment is too.
afterstep is not as popular(one reason why I chose it back in the day is
because not many used it). Windowmaker looks a lot like afterstep and
behaves much like afterste. I believe it is also more flexible and more
actively maintained.

If you add a new window manager, you probably have to configure your
display manager(GDM, KDM etc) to show an option to load it. You can
visit this page:

http://www.plig.org/xwinman/

to find more info about desktop enviornments and window managers, I'm
suprised it's still up, I last used it 3-4-5 years ago.

I have gotten very used to afterstep and probably won't change again for
the foreseeable future. Many of the features may be integrated into
other window managers as well, but in some cases they don't behave the
same way.

- activate on mouse over (but do NOT raise the application to foreground)
- drag windows between virtual desktops(my desktop at work had 30 virtual
desktops, my desktop at home has about 10)
- window shading
- 2 clicks to generate a screenshot or a windowshot
- 2 clicks to kill any X application
- able to move apps out of the way, even if it means placing them halfway
inbetween 2 desktops
- fast
- lightweight
- stable(I've never had it crash, ever)
- left click on desktop to get the "start" menu
- right click on desktop to get a list of running apps(click on the app and
it switches to it)
- customizable virtual desktops(you can have virtual desktops in "groups", I
prefer 1 large virtual desktop, you can arrange them in many different orders)
- fun dock apps to play with(though I rarely use them anymore people are
always facinated it seems by the dock apps I have running with the various
meters and flashing lights)

many people I talk to don't like or need the above features. It's funny
though, people don't realize they need something until they have it. I had
no need to do most of the above 5 years ago, but now I find it frustrating to
use systems that don't have it(or don't have it configured).

it's a simple window manager, no bells and whistles. and even further I am
not running the current version, I am running the same one I was running more
then 2 years ago(1.6). Because the newer version changed some behaviors that
I liked in the older one, so I recompiled and stuck to the older one. It's
a self contained application unlike a desktop enviornment, and can co-exist
peacefully(nothing else depends upon it, and it doesn't depend on anything
special either). If you were for some reason wanting to run KDE 1 you may
have some trouble getting it to co-exist with the rest of the system(probably
not impossible, but not nearly as easy as with a simple windowmanger).

currently my desktop is quite bare, its 1600x1200 and if there is no app
on the screen the only thing visible is the wallpaper and a little 1"x1" clock
in the lower right corner(the dock spends most of it's time collapsed).
sometimes I even remove the wharf/dock entirely. a screenshot of my desktop
that I took a year ago(1200x1024):

http://portal.aphroland.org/images/x-desktop-screenshot-05-09-2001.jpg

shows one of my more active sessions. I had 30 virtual desktops since
the machine was so stable(at it's peak uptime of 385 days, till a 3
hour power outage killed the UPS battery). So I stayed logged in for
long periods of time(xlock had a timeout of 1 minute).

tuning a window manager is not a fast and easy task, it took me
several hours over the years tweaking afterstep to

RE: Window Managers

[Benjamin Rich]

Utilize FluxBox a new and very lightweight window manager, it's very
easy to configure as well. 

Thanks, 

Benjamin Rich

-Original Message-
From: Joe Giles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:31 PM
To: Red Hat List
Subject: Window Managers


List,
I have been using Linux for a while, and I have used Gnome and KDE
primarily. I wish to now broaden my horizons and try a different
Desktop. Is there other desktops besides Gnome and KDE. I read about
Window managers, but is this the same thing? Once I install it, will
they come up in my Log in window as an option to log into like Gnome and
KDE? Can I run apps that normally run on KDE and Gnome, like Evolution
and GKRellm?

Also, if someone can point me in the right direction as to what is out
there.

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Window Managers

[Joe Giles]

List,
I have been using Linux for a while, and I have used Gnome and KDE
primarily. I wish to now broaden my horizons and try a different
Desktop. Is there other desktops besides Gnome and KDE. I read about
Window managers, but is this the same thing? Once I install it, will
they come up in my Log in window as an option to log into like Gnome and
KDE? Can I run apps that normally run on KDE and Gnome, like Evolution
and GKRellm?

Also, if someone can point me in the right direction as to what is out
there.

Thanks a million...
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Re: New to Linux... Can't find installed packages.

[Hidong Kim]

Mike Miller wrote:

Hello everyone.  I have installed Red Hat 8 professional.  It is my first time installing Linux.  I have a few questions.  Some of the packages I installed using the "Package Management" tool are not showing up.  For example.  I selected "VNC" to be installed.  It says that it is installed successfully but I can't find it anywhere.  It isn't under any of the menus.  Also...  I installed Kerio mail server and can't find it.  I have about 5 different things that I can't find.  Am I assuming wrong by thinking it should show up under one of the menus?  Also...  I set it up to receive an IP address from my another dhcp server.  Where can I check in Redhat to see what IP address it received?  In W2k I can do an IPconfig.  What do I do in Redhat?

Thanks everyone in advance...

Mike







Hi,

If your network connection is an Ethernet card, do "/sbin/ifconfig 
eth0".  On one of my machines, the output looks like this:


eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:27:57:0D:66
  inet addr:192.168.230.201  Bcast:192.168.230.255 
Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:36524513 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:4920038 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:3097234486 (2953.7 Mb)  TX bytes:1173999743 (1119.6 Mb)
  Interrupt:9




If you're looking for a program, try "which "  This will 
show you the location of the executable, but only if the directory is in 
your $PATH.  You can also try "rpm -qi " to check if the 
package was installed.  Good luck,



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Re: trying to install xfce

[R P Herrold]

On 26 Nov 2002, Jim Webb wrote:

> Which rpm's do we need to install on RH 8?  I'm guessing all of the i386
> rpm's?

> > I maintain an RHL 8.0 prebuilt and sources at:
> >ftp://ftp.owlriver.com/pub/local/ORC/xfce/

Oh, no.  Just one package from the latest stable is what I 
use:
   xfce-3.8.18-1.i386.rpm

[herrold@oldnews herrold]$ rpm -qa | grep xfce
xfce-3.8.18-1
[herrold@oldnews herrold]$

The -4 series are developmental and not too usable yet for me 
-- I have not had time to dink with it enough yet.

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New to Linux... Can't find installed packages.

[Mike Miller]

Hello everyone.  I have installed Red Hat 8 professional.  It is my first time 
installing Linux.  I have a few questions.  Some of the packages I installed using the 
"Package Management" tool are not showing up.  For example.  I selected "VNC" to be 
installed.  It says that it is installed successfully but I can't find it anywhere.  
It isn't under any of the menus.  Also...  I installed Kerio mail server and can't 
find it.  I have about 5 different things that I can't find.  Am I assuming wrong by 
thinking it should show up under one of the menus?  Also...  I set it up to receive an 
IP address from my another dhcp server.  Where can I check in Redhat to see what IP 
address it received?  In W2k I can do an IPconfig.  What do I do in Redhat?

Thanks everyone in advance...

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RE: rdate command from RH to Solaris

[Rigler, S C (Steve)]

Have you tried:

%> chkconfig time on

AFAIK, rdate doesn't use rhosts.

-S

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Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 1:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: rdate command from RH to Solaris


Hello Folks, I want to set the clock in a Solaris box
from a RH server using the command rdate, but the
connection is refused. 
I didn't found help about rhosts in RH in the man
pages. 
Is there a Big Admin here that could help me 

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rdate command from RH to Solaris

[Osvaldo Macias]

Hello Folks, I want to set the clock in a Solaris box
from a RH server using the command rdate, but the
connection is refused. 
I didn't found help about rhosts in RH in the man
pages. 
Is there a Big Admin here that could help me 

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Re: Adding a Hard Drive

[Ian Lipsky]

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Bob Blakely wrote:

> I know this will seem trivial to most of you, but for the life of me I can't find 
>the method for adding a second hard drive to my system. Perhaps someone could point 
>out to me where in which of my several v7.3 manuals this is discussed so that I can 
>use "hdb1"?
>
> Regards,
> Bob
> 

you can use fdisk /dev/hdb to partition the drive

Then you'll want to edit /etc/fstab to mount the drive. so for example
lets say you make 2 partitions on the 2nd drive, you'd add 2 lines to
fstab something like:

/dev/hdb1   /new-disk   ext2defaults1 2
/dev/hdb2   /new-disk2  ext2defaults1 2

replace /new-disk with whatever mount point you want to use.

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Re: Java program

[penelope]

> Hello,
>
> Sorry, I'm off topic !
> But I need someone help...
> Because I need to write a java class program demo "Master Mind"
> game, fro the details :
> Use Java programming language to construct a Master Mind game in
> which 10 rows of holes (4 in each rows) allow player to plug in the
> pegs attempting to make exact match with the hidden pegs. Assume
> that there are 10 different colors for the pegs, and 2 different
> colors for the pegs for hints in which the black represents a peg
> matching by both color and position, whereas the white represents a
> peg matching by color only.
>
> It allows the player to make 10 moves only. If player fails to
> resolve the puzzle within 10 steps, the program should end the game
> and indicate with proper message.
>
> PS : This demo program need to be wrote with "Class Vector" also...
>
> Where can I get this kind of program demo ?
>
> Very thank for your help !
>
> ED.
>

No. You need someone to do your homework.  Get real.  This is a forum
for assisting users, not propping up casual students.


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Adding a Hard Drive

[Bob Blakely]

I know this will seem trivial to most of you, but 
for the life of me I can't find the method for adding a second hard drive to my 
system. Perhaps someone could point out to me where in which of my several 
v7.3 manuals this is discussed so that I can use "hdb1"?
 Regards,Bob"Beer 
is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!"   - Benjamin 
Franklin 

Re: no java in oo1.0.1

[Ryurick M. Hristev]

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Thomas Ribbrock wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 12:26:34PM -0400, Vano Beridze wrote:
> > I have also had that screen and I pointed to my JAVA HOME directory
> > 
> > but data sources does not work
> > :(
> 
> Hm. I've used j2re-1.4.0 from sun.com and pointed OO to /usr/lib/j
> (can't check, I'm at work) - no problem whatsoever.
> 
> > oo says
> > 
> > Error occurred during initialization of VM
> > Unable to load native library: libjvm.so: cannot open shared object 
> > file: No such file or directory
> 
> That sounds as if it can't find the file - do you have your Java in an
> unusual location? Maybe you need to tell ldconfig about it?

Remark: The OO from RHL 8.0 have java support disabled.

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getting nfs working through the firewall

[Ian]

can anyone tell me (or point me to a link) that'll show me how i can get 
nfs working through ipchains/iptables ?

I opened the system settings - security level, and managed to get ssh 
working. But i dont know how to allow incoming nfs requests. I basically 
just need to allow incoming:
http
https
ssh
ftp
nfs

can anyone tell me how to do that using either the security level GUI or 
the command line iptables?

thanks,

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Re: Apache fails to start with mm-1.3.1-8

[Chris Fisher]

Hi,

After reading through the rpm man page again, I finally got
mm-devel-1.3.1-2 / mm-1.3.1-2 to install without any problems.  However,
now Apache fails to start with a different error:

critical_create(): semget() failed: No space left on device

Any ideas?  There's plenty of space left on the partition.

Thanks,
Chris

- Original Message -
From: "Chris Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:51 PM
Subject: Apache fails to start with mm-1.3.1-8


> Hi,
>
> I'm running Apache 1.3.22-6 and mm-1.3.1-[2,8,9 - your choice] on a
7.2
> server.  We recently hit this bug after up2date updated mm and I tried
> to restart Apache:
>
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=74543
>
> I tried downgrading to mm-1.3.1-2, however there were failed
> dependencies for Apache and PHP.  Being new to RPM, I wasn't sure what
> to do, so I forced mm-1.3.1-9 and mm-devel-1.3.1-9 to install
> using --force and --nodeps.  Well, they installed but Apache is still
> giving this error message:
>
> Starting httpd: Ouch! ap_mm_create(1048576, "/var/run/httpd.mm.501")
> failed
> Error: MM: mm:core: failed to acquire semaphore (No space left on
> device): OS: Identifier removed
> [FAILED]
>
> It seems the only thing I can do is downgrade to mm-1.3.1-2 but I
don't
> know how to get around the dependency failures.  Could anyone here
> kindly give me some tips as to how I should go about that?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
>
>
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Re: Fw: ppp problems...HELP!! PLEASE!!:-((((

[Kent Borg]

On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 04:15:21PM -0600, Bret Hughes wrote:
> On Thu, 2001-11-22 at 14:09, und3rGr0und wrote:
> > [questions]
> 
> don't post in html al lot of folks filter out messages in html
> most of those that do are exactly who you wnat to be seeing your
> messages
> 
> 
> Bret - who has no idea what your problem is :( 

Also, don't post in November 2002 with your clock set to November
2001.  Some will not even see such an "old" message, even if it is
actually much newer.  For others it maybe made for an unfortunate
aura.  I mean, someone who puts effort into coming up with the kewl
name "und3rGr0und" but then posts html with the wrong date, it just
might be enough to prompt someone to answer a different question
(there is always another question).  Not to say that there is anything
terribly wrong with your posting, just as there is nothing "wrong"
appearing however you please when hitchhiking--but it might affect
whether you get many rides.

I don't think anyone here is paid to post answers, they do it because
they feel like it.  I have many times asked questions in forums where
I hadn't synched into how things worked, and gotten no response.  You
have to push the right buttons to get the answer to spit out.  This
time the buttons you pushed for me were "This guy didn't get an answer
because he posted wrong, and he probably doesn't know that.", so my
response is to that.


-kb, the Kent who also doesn't know the answer to the specific PPP
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Re: Firestarter 0.9.0 and RH 8.0

[Jack Bowling]

On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 09:56:02AM -0800, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
> Has anyone else had problems with Firestarter logging everything to the 
> console when running on Psyche? The relevent log entries seem to be from 
> kern, but I don't see a specified priority. Here's the relevent section 
> of my syslog.conf:
> 
> *.info;mail.none;news.none;authpriv.none;cron.none-/var/log/messages
> *.emerg   *
> 
> Unless firestarter is causing the kernel to log iptables rejections as 
> emerg, I can't see why it would be logged to the console. Anyone else 
> experiencing this?


Take a look at "man dmesg". The -n switch might provide a solution.

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Apache fails to start with mm-1.3.1-8

[Chris Fisher]

Hi,

I'm running Apache 1.3.22-6 and mm-1.3.1-[2,8,9 - your choice] on a 7.2
server.  We recently hit this bug after up2date updated mm and I tried
to restart Apache:

http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=74543

I tried downgrading to mm-1.3.1-2, however there were failed
dependencies for Apache and PHP.  Being new to RPM, I wasn't sure what
to do, so I forced mm-1.3.1-9 and mm-devel-1.3.1-9 to install
using --force and --nodeps.  Well, they installed but Apache is still
giving this error message:

Starting httpd: Ouch! ap_mm_create(1048576, "/var/run/httpd.mm.501")
failed
Error: MM: mm:core: failed to acquire semaphore (No space left on
device): OS: Identifier removed
[FAILED]

It seems the only thing I can do is downgrade to mm-1.3.1-2 but I don't
know how to get around the dependency failures.  Could anyone here
kindly give me some tips as to how I should go about that?

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tcpwrappers w/ NFS/YP

[Ashley M. Kirchner]

How do I configure a 7.3 system's hosts.allow/hosts.deny to allow access to
things like the portmap (portmap), mountd (rpc.mountd), status (rpc.statd),
nfslockd (lockd), rquotad (rpc.rquotad), nfs (nfsd), ypserv, yppasswdd, ypxfrd,
and syslog?

After adding 'All: All' to hosts.deny, do I just add the names of the
service to the hosts.allow file and the quad ip notation behind it?  If so, do
I use  'rpc.mountd: ...' or do I just use 'mountd: ...'

Actually, before I even go that far, how do I find out whether a particular
service has even been compiled with tcp_wrappers support?  (the system runs
99.9% on RPMS)

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Re: Firestarter 0.9.0 and RH 8.0

[Michael Schwendt]

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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:56:02 -0800 (PST), Todd A. Jacobs wrote:

> Has anyone else had problems with Firestarter logging everything to
> the console when running on Psyche? The relevent log entries seem to
> be from kern, but I don't see a specified priority. Here's the
> relevent section of my syslog.conf:
> 
> *.info;mail.none;news.none;authpriv.none;cron.none-/var/log/messages
> *.emerg   *
> 
> Unless firestarter is causing the kernel to log iptables rejections as
> emerg, I can't see why it would be logged to the console. 

Hint: "man klogd" and /etc/sysconfig/syslog 

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Re: system crashes after 2nd login

[Michael A. Peters]

On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 09:49, Ian wrote:

> >
> >Sounds like a hardware issue, probably related to your graphics
> >adapter and its driver for XFree86. I would take this to the
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or http://bugzilla.redhat.com
> >
> >- --
> 
> Yeah, thats likely. It has a rather odd video card. Its a system9 video 
> card if i remember correctly. Some special video card for use with SGI flat 
> panel screens. I remember we had a bit of trouble getting it to work. Maybe 
> i'll just pick up a cheap low end ati or radeon card.
> 
> Ian

There are some definite issues with Red Hat 8 and various video drivers.
My box hangs if I'm running Xscreensaver (can't ping it - nada - dead)
within a day or two. Didn't in Red Hat 7.x

Another guy (who posted to my bugzilla report) has a laptop that crashes
with any any OpenGL app. Didn't in Red Hat 7.x

Let's hope this weirdness with certain video cards is isolated and fixed
by Red Hat 8.1 :)

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Re: xcdroast

[Hidong Kim]

Hi,

Thanks for the tips.  I guess the problem may be due to the rest of my 
system, a Pentium 166 with 64 MB RAM.  Anyway, xcdroast is working now 
for large CDs.  I turned down the write speed to 24x from the default 
32x.  That seemed to do the trick.  Thanks,



Hidong






João Pedro wrote:
Hidong Kim wrote:


Hi,

I just installed a new Liteon 40x12x48x CD burner into a freshly 
upgraded Red Hat 8.0 machine.  I'm trying to use xcdroast to make CDs. 
The burner will make fairly small CDs OK, like 10-50 MB.  But if I try 
to make a large CD, 300 MB or more, xcdroast freezes about halfway 
through.  In fact, it freezes the entire machine, and leaves the caps 
lock and num lock lights on the keyboard flashing.  I have to reboot 
the machine.  I'm using new 80 min CD-Rs.  What could be wrong?  Are 
there any other CD burning applications you can suggest?  They don't 
have to be free or open.  Thanks,



Hidong


Have you configured it properly? XCdroast is the one that works best for 
me ... but I guess it depends on system and hardware configuration !
You can also try, "out of the box" KOnCD and Gnome Toaster (GToaster for 
short) - if they are installed they are both in Extras/System Tools .

Good luck !

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Firestarter 0.9.0 and RH 8.0

[Todd A. Jacobs]

Has anyone else had problems with Firestarter logging everything to the 
console when running on Psyche? The relevent log entries seem to be from 
kern, but I don't see a specified priority. Here's the relevent section 
of my syslog.conf:

*.info;mail.none;news.none;authpriv.none;cron.none  -/var/log/messages
*.emerg *

Unless firestarter is causing the kernel to log iptables rejections as 
emerg, I can't see why it would be logged to the console. Anyone else 
experiencing this?

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Re: system crashes after 2nd login

[Ian]

At 09:38 AM 11/26/2002, you wrote:

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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 08:54:01 -0800, Ian wrote:

> i have a machine that i just installed rh 8.0 on. I've installed all
> the available rpm updates.
>
> System boots up, xwindows starts up and i login. I then log out. And
> log in again. And then logout, and the system dies. I can not ping the
> machine. The keyboard does not respond to anything. Only option i have
> is to hit the reset button.
>
> Anyone have any ideas what might be going on here? this is pretty much
> a fresh install. So the only thing i can think of at this point would
> be to just reinstall everything.
>
> anyone have any other suggestions?

Sounds like a hardware issue, probably related to your graphics
adapter and its driver for XFree86. I would take this to the
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or http://bugzilla.redhat.com

- --


Yeah, thats likely. It has a rather odd video card. Its a system9 video 
card if i remember correctly. Some special video card for use with SGI flat 
panel screens. I remember we had a bit of trouble getting it to work. Maybe 
i'll just pick up a cheap low end ati or radeon card.

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Re: system crashes after 2nd login

[Michael Schwendt]

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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 08:54:01 -0800, Ian wrote:

> i have a machine that i just installed rh 8.0 on. I've installed all
> the available rpm updates.
> 
> System boots up, xwindows starts up and i login. I then log out. And
> log in again. And then logout, and the system dies. I can not ping the
> machine. The keyboard does not respond to anything. Only option i have
> is to hit the reset button.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas what might be going on here? this is pretty much
> a fresh install. So the only thing i can think of at this point would
> be to just reinstall everything.
> 
> anyone have any other suggestions?

Sounds like a hardware issue, probably related to your graphics
adapter and its driver for XFree86. I would take this to the
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or http://bugzilla.redhat.com

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system crashes after 2nd login

[Ian]

i have a machine that i just installed rh 8.0 on. I've installed all the 
available rpm updates.

System boots up, xwindows starts up and i login. I then log out. And log in 
again. And then logout, and the system dies. I can not ping the machine. 
The keyboard does not respond to anything. Only option i have is to hit the 
reset button.

Anyone have any ideas what might be going on here? this is pretty much a 
fresh install. So the only thing i can think of at this point would be to 
just reinstall everything.

anyone have any other suggestions?

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Re: Upgrading from 7.3 to 8.0

[Rick Johnson]

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| Very quick reply (don't know much about everything else in your email) but,
| if you install Windows after Linux, your master boot record is overwritten,
| so you lose the Linux partition. I think this applies even if you have more
| than one hdd.

I wouldn't say you lose it, you'd just lose the ability to boot to it w/o a
boot floppy. However - if you use said boot floppy or a boot CD, you can
rerun grub-install and restore GRUB as your bootloader. Then add the
appropriate lines to grub in order to boot Windows as well.

However he is correct. I'd install Windows first, then Linux after in order
to have this done for you by anaconda.

As far as settings - retain a copy of /etc, /home, and /var and you should
be in decent shape. If you've got custom programs, grab pieces of /usr or
/usr/local as well as needed.

- -Rick

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RE: Upgrading from 7.3 to 8.0

[Cannon, Andrew]

Very quick reply (don't know much about everything else in your email) but,
if you install Windows after Linux, your master boot record is overwritten,
so you lose the Linux partition. I think this applies even if you have more
than one hdd.

-Original Message-
From: James Pifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:33 PM
To: redhat
Subject: Upgrading from 7.3 to 8.0


I have a system with an Athlon 1.2Ghz, 1 Gig of Ram, 40 Gig IDE as the
Master, and a 100 Gig IDE as the Slave. Right now I have RH7.3 installed
and the 100 Gig drive mounted as disk2. I would like to do two things,
install a small Windows partition (for games) and then install RH8.0.
One of my concerns is that I'm running Evolution and connect to several
mailing lists, including this one. 

I'm thinking of blowing away the 40 gig drive and then installing a
small Windows 2000 partition. Then install Redhat 8.0 on the rest of the
drive. My questions are these:

1) What's the best way to copy the file system from the 40 gig drive to
the 100 gig drive? That way when I install 8.0 I can get to all my old
files in case I need something? Would the simple cp command be the
easiest thing here? 

2) Assuming I don't screw up and blow away the data/partition on the 100
Gig Drive, will the Redhat 8 install see it and let me mount it again as
disk2?

3) Any suggestions on getting my current Evolution mail migrated to the
new installation assuming I have it all backed up? (via question 1)

Any suggestions are appreciated. 

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Upgrading from 7.3 to 8.0

[James Pifer]

I have a system with an Athlon 1.2Ghz, 1 Gig of Ram, 40 Gig IDE as the
Master, and a 100 Gig IDE as the Slave. Right now I have RH7.3 installed
and the 100 Gig drive mounted as disk2. I would like to do two things,
install a small Windows partition (for games) and then install RH8.0.
One of my concerns is that I'm running Evolution and connect to several
mailing lists, including this one. 

I'm thinking of blowing away the 40 gig drive and then installing a
small Windows 2000 partition. Then install Redhat 8.0 on the rest of the
drive. My questions are these:

1) What's the best way to copy the file system from the 40 gig drive to
the 100 gig drive? That way when I install 8.0 I can get to all my old
files in case I need something? Would the simple cp command be the
easiest thing here? 

2) Assuming I don't screw up and blow away the data/partition on the 100
Gig Drive, will the Redhat 8 install see it and let me mount it again as
disk2?

3) Any suggestions on getting my current Evolution mail migrated to the
new installation assuming I have it all backed up? (via question 1)

Any suggestions are appreciated. 

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Re: trying to install xfce

[Jim Webb]

Which rpm's do we need to install on RH 8?  I'm guessing all of the i386
rpm's?

TIA,

Jim

On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 10:05, R P Herrold wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Hidong Kim wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm trying to install xfce-3.8.18 on a newly installed Red Hat 8.0 
> > machine.  I downloaded and unpacked the xfce tar archive.  During the 
> 
> I maintain an RHL 8.0 prebuilt and sources at:
>ftp://ftp.owlriver.com/pub/local/ORC/xfce/
> 
> -- Russ Herrold
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Re: Lots of mails from apache

[Michael Schwendt]

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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 11:00:27 -0500, RA wrote:

> Please see below one entry from  my maillog.
> 
> Nov 26 19:55:53 srv1 sendmail[1823]: gAQNtoA01821:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> ctladdr=apache(48/48), delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=esmtp,
> pri=91423, relay=mailin-02.mx.aol.com. [64.12.136.121], dsn=2.0.0,
> stat=Sent (OK)

That's just half of the log message. Where's the connect part?
And what did Apache log?

Also, please tell us more about the services you have configured and
also how you have configured Squid. 

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Re: Kernel Header problem

[Michael Schwendt]

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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 07:28:36 -0800, Dale Satterfield wrote:

> I just did a workstation install of RH-8. While going through the 
> device drivers book, I tried to test the compilation/l;oading of a 
> module. I get an error message on loading of "Running 2.4.18-14. Your 
> module was compiled for 2.4.9-9".
>   2.4.9-9 is the value in /usr/include/linux/version.h. How come it 
> doesn't match the kernel that was installed?
> I did the install from the RH CD's.  Can I just edit the version file?

No. Compile the module against the kernel headers which you find in
the "kernel-source" binary rpm. When installed, you find the kernel
headers in /usr/src/linux-2.4/include. Don't use the
"kernel-headers" package and neither the "glibc-kernheaders" package
when compiling kernel modules.

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Re: Remove old kernel?

[Kevin MacNeil]

On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 10:00:41AM +0800, Patrick Law wrote:
> Sometime time I update from RHN, I will get new kernel update, after reboot,
> I will be given options of new kernel together with old kernels in Grub
> Menu. Currently there are about 3 kernel versions in my Grub Menu. How do I
> remove the old kernel and keep only the latest kernel?

It's a good idea to keep the original kernel that shipped with the
distribution, just so you can use the install cd as a rescue disk if
need be.  On my rh7.2 system I have the 2.4.7.x kernel, the last 2.4.9,
the latest 2.4.18 shipped by redhat.  It doesn't hurt anything to keep
them around, and only uses a little bit of space.

I would also boot and use newer kernels for a couple of days first
before getting rid of old ones.  You can never be too careful.



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Re: Lots of mails from apache

[RA]

Please see below one entry from  my maillog.

Nov 26 19:55:53 srv1 sendmail[1823]: gAQNtoA01821:
[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=apache
(48/48), delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=esmtp, pri=91423,
relay=mailin-02.mx.aol.com. [64.12.136.121], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK)


- Original Message -
From: "Josep M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: Lots of mails from apache


> Hello.
>
> Ok,sometimes people have bad configured smtp and are an open relay and
spammers will see this very
> quickly,for this i said! I had a bad experience with this!
>
> Cheers
> Josep
>
>
>
> Begin of Quote RA :
> >I did it. Please see below.
> >
> >"System appeared to reject relay attempts"
> >
> >Thanks for respond.
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Josep M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 6:54 AM
> >Subject: Re: Lots of mails from apache
> >
> >
> >> Hello.
> >>
> >> Execute:
> >>
> >> telnet relay-test.mail-abuse.org  FROM THE MACHINE TO TEST
> >>
> >> for check if you are open relay.
> >>
> >> Josep
> >>
> >>
> >> Begin of Quote RA :
> >> >Hello,
> >> >
> >> >I'm running RH 7.1 and have configured mail, web, squid servers on it.
> >> >all services are working good, but apache sends lot of messages to
> >xyz@aol.com, where xyz is random value, and all the
> >mails come back to me.
> >> >I would like to know why, and how apache sends these messages, and if
> >there is a way to deny apache to send mails ?
> >> >
> >> >Thanks in advance.



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Serial port - xon/xoff flow control on Cyclades multi-serial

[Leandro J. Kohler]

Hi,

I have two Linux Red Hat Linux Servers running on 7.3 version.
Each server has one Cyclades multi-serial attached.

I have one serial cable that connect one serial port of cyclades on both
server.
The serial cable is ok and is designed do use software flow control
(xon/xoff).

The problem is:

The stty on boths sides are correct set up (to use xon/xof flow control) and
the serial cable also is ok but sometimes I lost information because the
flow control. It seems the flow control by software (xon/xoff) are not
working ok.

It seems that the seial port of cyclades on Linux works ok when it receices
a xon/xoff signal but it doens't send a corret signal control when its
buffer is almost full, then some data are lost.

Is it make sense ?
Is there any other parameter to set up to allow correct flow control by
software (xon/xoff) ?

One important information: If I use the cpu (on board) serial port (instend
of cyclades seril port) everything works fine.

Thanks,

Leandro J. Kohler
Support Informática Ltda



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WindowMaker and rhn-applet

[Michael A. Peters]

Howdy -
Since I found wmdrawer (a wmaker dockling) I have found myself no longer
needing to start the gnome-panel in WindowMaker with the exception of
the rhn-applet that checks my system to make sure I am at recommended
patch level.

As such - I was thinking I might try to port the rhn-applet to a
WindowMaker dockling but before I do so - I just want to make sure no
one else has already done this.

Anyone know?
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Kernel Header problem

[Dale Satterfield]

I just did a workstation install of RH-8. While going through the 
device drivers book, I tried to test the compilation/l;oading of a 
module. I get an error message on loading of "Running 2.4.18-14. Your 
module was compiled for 2.4.9-9".
 2.4.9-9 is the value in /usr/include/linux/version.h. How come it 
doesn't match the kernel that was installed?
I did the install from the RH CD's.  Can I just edit the version file?



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Re: trying to install xfce

[R P Herrold]

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Hidong Kim wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to install xfce-3.8.18 on a newly installed Red Hat 8.0 
> machine.  I downloaded and unpacked the xfce tar archive.  During the 

I maintain an RHL 8.0 prebuilt and sources at:
   ftp://ftp.owlriver.com/pub/local/ORC/xfce/

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Re: xcdroast

[João Pedro]

Hidong Kim wrote:


Hi,

I just installed a new Liteon 40x12x48x CD burner into a freshly 
upgraded Red Hat 8.0 machine.  I'm trying to use xcdroast to make CDs. 
The burner will make fairly small CDs OK, like 10-50 MB.  But if I try 
to make a large CD, 300 MB or more, xcdroast freezes about halfway 
through.  In fact, it freezes the entire machine, and leaves the caps 
lock and num lock lights on the keyboard flashing.  I have to reboot 
the machine.  I'm using new 80 min CD-Rs.  What could be wrong?  Are 
there any other CD burning applications you can suggest?  They don't 
have to be free or open.  Thanks,



Hidong

Have you configured it properly? XCdroast is the one that works best for 
me ... but I guess it depends on system and hardware configuration !
You can also try, "out of the box" KOnCD and Gnome Toaster (GToaster for 
short) - if they are installed they are both in Extras/System Tools .

Good luck !

J.Pedro



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Re: swat troubleshooting

[Roger Schmeits]

Have you looked with chkconfig?
chkconfig --list | grep swap

chkconfig swap on
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 06:59, Steve Hare wrote:
> Hello,
>   I am having a problem running swat.
> I set up samba correctly, and can see my shares from
> other computers on my network.  I just can't seem to 
> make swat work.  I really don't need it badly, since I 
> can make samba work with manual configuration, but
> it is the perfectionist in me.  I need to make this work
> for piece of mind.
> 
> Right now, when I type in //localhost:901
> or 
> http://127.0.0.1:901
> or
> http://192.168.0.2:901
> 
> it just sits there.  It says, Sending request to 
> and never connects.
> 
> I put all the config files into the services file
> and the /etc/xinetd.d/swat file
> but still nothing.
> 
> any suggestions on how to fix this?
> 
> -Steve Hare
> 
> 
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Re: swat troubleshooting

[Mike Stewart]

Is swat actually where the inetd.d file "swat" thinks it is ?  I had a
slight problem installing last week as I'd originally allowed RH 7.2 to
install it's own Samba (which didn't include swat), then upgraded to a newer
Samba (which did include swat) and the swat files were put in the wrong
place (and/or thought samba was elsewhere).  As I was only experimenting
this didn't matter... I reinstalled RH without Samba, then installed the
latest version and all was well :-)

Mike

- Original Message -
From: "Steve Hare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: swat troubleshooting


> Hello,
> I am having a problem running swat.
> I set up samba correctly, and can see my shares from
> other computers on my network.  I just can't seem to
> make swat work.  I really don't need it badly, since I
> can make samba work with manual configuration, but
> it is the perfectionist in me.  I need to make this work
> for piece of mind.
>
> Right now, when I type in file://localhost:901
> or
> http://127.0.0.1:901
> or
> http://192.168.0.2:901
>
> it just sits there.  It says, Sending request to 
> and never connects.
>
> I put all the config files into the services file
> and the /etc/xinetd.d/swat file
> but still nothing.
>
> any suggestions on how to fix this?
>
> -Steve Hare
>
>
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swat troubleshooting

[Steve Hare]

Hello,
I am having a problem running swat.
I set up samba correctly, and can see my shares from
other computers on my network.  I just can't seem to 
make swat work.  I really don't need it badly, since I 
can make samba work with manual configuration, but
it is the perfectionist in me.  I need to make this work
for piece of mind.

Right now, when I type in //localhost:901
or 
http://127.0.0.1:901
or
http://192.168.0.2:901

it just sits there.  It says, Sending request to 
and never connects.

I put all the config files into the services file
and the /etc/xinetd.d/swat file
but still nothing.

any suggestions on how to fix this?

-Steve Hare



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Lots of mails from apache

[RA]

Hello,
 
I'm running RH 7.1 and have configured mail, web, 
squid servers on it.
all services are working good, but apache 
sends lot of messages to xyz@aol.com, 
where xyz is random value, and all the mails come back to me. 
I would like to know why, and how apache sends these messages, and if there is a way 
to deny apache to send mails ?
 
Thanks in advance.

Re: Package management in Redhat 8

[João Pedro]

Leo Boucher wrote:


I recently installed Redhat 8.  I was a Redhat 7.x user for a long time
and used to package management with that platform.  The new package
manager is very slick, but how do you get into package details, query a
package, etc, like in the old gnorpm? 
Thanks,

Leo Boucher



 

By installallation of Gnomerpm   ;-)

freshrpms   .

Antonio M.



Better yet, why don't  you use webmin ( www.webmin.com ) and do that and 
a lot
more from a single administration tool which seems to be of the approval 
of a lot
of people ?

J.Pedro





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RE: RH8.0 install freezes

[Cannon, Andrew]

I've had a similar problem with Mandrake 9.0. I think I've nailed it down to
the CD access. Are you using a CD-ROM drive or a CD-RW drive? I've got this
problem because my boot device is a CD-RW not a CD ROM. For some reason, my
system doesn't like booting from the CD-RW drive. I'm about to change my
cables round to see if this cures the problem.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Nick Lindsell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RH8.0 install freezes


At 13:23 25/11/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>I have tried to install to a PII 400 128MB 12GB w/
>CDRom many times, it freezes at different point every
>time.  Never got past the 1st CD.  I have reburned the
>CDs a few times (on different types of CDs) no luck.
>I have used the noprobe option - no luck.  I am about
>ready to give up - any suggestions??  Thanks


When this happened to me it turned out to be bad memory chip.
The system would hang/reboot/crash when trying to unzip files
from the CD. I too thought it was bad media - especially as the
"media test" failed also - but no amount of changing CDs or
CD reader would clear the problem.

hih
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Re: TMDA anti-spam software

[Todd A. Jacobs]

On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Anthony E. Greene wrote:

> Is anyone using Tagged Message Delivery Agent  to filter
> spam? It uses a combination of whitelists, blacklists, and confirmation

I use it here. It does *not* play well with mailing lists, but does a good
job of protecting the primary email account.

It's also a bit difficult to set up, so I wrote an install script 
(primarily for postfix+tmda+procmail) which hopefully eases the pain. You 
can grab it at:

   http://www.codegnome.org/scripting/showscript.php?script=install_tmda.sh

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Re: tip equivalent

[fred smith]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 06:34:22PM -0600, Say No To Taxes wrote:
> I couldn't find "tip" in Linux.  What is Linux's equivalent to the SYSV 
> "tip" command that uses /etc/remote?

The traditional answer has been "cu".

But if you're wanting some kind of terminal program there are many
better answers, including: minicom, ckermit.

Fred

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Re: stl.h

[Dave Fletcher]

Hmm, yes but these are named differently on various
platforms. Previously I seemed to get away with using
#include  on many unix flavors in a default 
install (including Redhat 7.3, IIRC, which was my
previous install) and (believe it or not) in MSVC++ as
well. It saved me from writing lots of preprocessor
code.

I suppose really autoconf/make can do almost
everything I need, and I'll just have to use #ifdefs
for *cough* that other platform *cough* as well ;)

Thanks again for everyone's help,

-- Dave.


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> > Yes, exactly it is not in the default g++ install
> in
> > 8.0. This makes it harder for my users to build my
> > package :(
> > 
> > Thanks for helping me find it, guys.
> 
> I would bet that  is at most a GNU extension.
> You would be
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