Samba problem. Folder permission change not allowed.

[Radu Popa]

Hi!

Here is what I want to do:

I have a server runing samba in a mixed Lin/Win domain. In the same pc I
have 2 hard disks: 1 for linux, and the other one it is the old hard disk in
the pc where it used to be windows 98 os. All the shares on the linux hdd
work just fine for r/w. I have mounted the old hdd in /mnt/oldhdd and I
shared it across the network without any problems. But I can't write to it
from the network. I have the following lines in smb.conf

[Old Harddisk]
path = /mnt/oldhdd
writable = yes
comment = Old Hard Disk
create mode = 777
public = yes

My problem is that I can see the information on it, but I cannot write to
it. When I try to change the properties for the directory /mnt/oldhdd so I
give everyone write access it says permission denied. I have tried this also
from the console and X server. Is there any trick with the fat partitions?

And other small problems:
1. How can I make it in a way that when I browse the shares on it from a win
machine and write click on a share to see the available space left on the
hdd?

2. In cups what exactly do I have to modify for accessing cups configuration
from web interface from across the network? It always says "You are not
authorized to view this page" 403.

Thanks in advance !



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Re: driver problem

[nate]

Patrick Law said:
> I having some problem with few network cards, can anyone recommend some
> website that I can download driver from? (beside the vendor website)

depends on the card.. but the best place I have found is

http://www.scyld.com/network

tons of drivers there, and instructions on how to build them.


nate





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Re: driver problem

[Teodor Georgiev]

 
 
In my opinion the Linux kernel has inside the 
drivers for 97% of the network cards that one can see on the market 
:)
Which exactly you have problem with?
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Patrick 
  Law 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:38 
  AM
  Subject: driver problem
  
  
  I having 
  some problem 
  with few network 
  cards, 
  can anyone 
  recommend 
  some website 
  that I can download 
  driver 
  from? (beside 
  the vendor website) 
  
   
  Are there 
  documentations 
  around 
  for compiling 
  network 
  card drivers?
   
  -Patrick

driver problem

[Patrick Law]

I having some problem with few network cards, can anyone recommend some website that I can download driver from? (beside the vendor website) 

 

Are there documentations around for compiling network card drivers?

 

-Patrick

Re: Boot up Problem. Plz Help.

[ABrady]

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 19:14:30 -0500 (EST)
rahul b jain cs student <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> HI,
> 
> This problem is related to X-windows boot up. After every couple of
> days, my machines fails to boot up in the x-windows mode. When I
> delete some of the log files, it boots up properly in the X-windows
> mode.
> 
> Is there a permanent solution to this problem ?

1. Make /var bigger.

2.Change how long logs are kept (man logrotate).

3. Make a script that deletes logs (be very careful which ones) and call
it from rc.local. Just make sure it works properly first.

1 is best, 2 next, 3 mostly for emergency situations.

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Re: GUI Performance

[Gordon Messmer]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 14:11, Jim Slocomb wrote:
> 
> When comparing the performance of the GIU and related applications Open
> Office or Star Office take minutes to load where MS Office 2000 on Win2K pro
> will take 10-15 seconds on the same machine.

That is unfortunately normal for that application.  The koffice suite is
less slow to open, and many of the GNOME office applications are very
quick.  The situation may improve in RHL 8.1 if C++ prelinking is
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RE: Only static IPs works, DHCP hangs .....

[Cameron . Davidson]

Mike,

I noticed you said you were running linuxconf - which RH version
are you using? I though linuxconf had been retired from recent
systems - I didn't get it on a recent clean 7.3 installation
but it was left in place after a 6.2 to 7.3 upgrade. 

there's been lots of useful info so far in other replies,
which should get you started. Since you have two eth cards
you might end up running a system like mine - where the 
internet gateway linux box serves several Linux and ms-Windows
machines. So I'll expand on this.

I run a dhcp client (dhcpcd) on eth1 to get the setup from my ISP,
but I also run a dhcp server on eth0 (internal)
to give the other local
machines info about gateway, DNS, etc.
But you have to stop the server running on eth1 as well, so to do that
you need to have a line
DHCPDARGS="eth0"
in the file /etc/sysconfig/dhcp.

Cameron.



> 
> This is not a silly question at all because I do not know much about 
> configuring DHCP. The answer to your question is none of 
> them. The only 
> thing that I did was click the DHCP button in linuxconf on 
> the nic that 
> needs to be hooked up to my ISP. I must now ask a few silly 
> questions now. 1. Is that required if I am *not* running a 
> DHCP Server? 2. I saw both of those on the internet in my 
> search to find some answers, 
> what do they do?



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RE: Dell(TM) PowerEdge(TM) Web Server Version 3.1 Powered by RedHat Linux

[fluke]

I can not find any such written notice right now at the URL you give 
below.

The General Public License states that the notice must be given at the 
time of redistribution of the GPL work.  Is there someplace on the Dell 
website that I can download the Dell PowerEdge Web Server Version 3.1 
Powered By Red Hat Linux software such that the website is the point of 
redistribution?  Otherwise, how does this apply to the GPL at all?

On a related note, where is the additional text you promised on July 23rd 
would be added to the Information Update or Deployment Guide?


On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> >   I ordered and recieved the Dell(TM) PowerEdge(TM) Web 
> > Server Version 3.1 Powered by Red Hat Linux (SKU P/N 420-0835)
> 
> http://www.dell.com/us/en/biz/products/model_pedge_2_pedge_web.htm#tn1
> contains the following footnote:
> 
> 1 The software contained in this Dell PowerEdge Web Server is an aggregate
> of third party programs as well as Dell programs. Use of the software is
> subject to designated license terms. All Software that is designated as
> "under the terms of the GNU GPL" may be copied, distributed and/or modified
> in accordance with the terms and conditions of the GNU General Public
> License, Version 2, June 1991. All software that is designated as "under the
> terms of the GNU LGPL" (or "Lesser GPL") may be copied, distributed and/or
> modified in accordance with the terms and conditions of the GNU Lesser
> General Public License, Version 2.1, February 1999. Under these GNU
> licenses, you are also entitled to obtain the corresponding source files by
> contacting Dell at 1-800-WWW-DELL. Please refer to SKU 420-1633 when making
> such request. There may be a nominal fee charged to you for the physical act
> of transferring a copy. 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Matt
> 
> --
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> Sr. Software Engineer, Lead Engineer, Architect
> Dell Linux Solutions www.dell.com/linux
> Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com
> 
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Possible GPL violation by Red Hat/Dell alliance

[fluke]

  I am working with friends in the GNU/Linux Users of Northern Illinois on 
putting together a web page detailing the issues with the following 
product:

  Dell(TM) PowerEdge(TM) Web Server Version 3.1 Powered by Red Hat Linux


  I am seeking any feedback which would indicate if any of the claims
below our false:

  - Red Hat maintains a web site which throughout the course of this year 
has contain material which illustrate the fact that Red Hat is aware of 
the concepts of the Free Software Foundation, "Open Source," and the 
General Public License (GPL)

  - Dell maintains a web site which throughout the course of this year has 
contain material which illustrate the fact that Dell is aware of the 
concepts of the Free Software Foundation, "Open Source," and the GPL

  - Dell is aware that both Dell PowerEdge Web Server Version 3.0 
Powered by Red Hat Linux and Dell PowerEdge Web Server Version 3.1 Powered 
by Red Hat Linux contained GPL covered works

  - Dell has been aware that their distribution of the GPL works included
with Dell PowerEdge Web Server Powered by Red Hat Linux version 3.0 was
commercial (distribution was not covered by clause 3c of the GPL for
providing redistribution rights)

  - Dell has been aware that their distribution of the GPL works included
with the Dell PowerEdge Web Server Powered by Red Hat Linux version 3.0
did not include the majority of source code related to those works
(distribution was not covered by clause 3a of the GPL for providing
redistribution rights)

  - Dell was given notice that the Dell PowerEdge Web Server Powered by
Red Hat Linux version 3.0 did not include any written notice providing
instructions on how to get the source code (distribution was not covered
by clause 3b of the GPL for providing redistribution rights)

  - Dell's Matt Domsch responded on July 23rd to the claim that neither
the Information Update or the Deployment Guide provided offer any
instructions on how to get the source code with:
"Thank you for bringing this to our attention.  We will add
 the appropriate text to a future release of these documents."

  - Red Hat's Mark Webbink responded on August 15th that:
"Dell preloads various Red Hat operating system products pursuant to
 agreements between our companies which clearly specify that Red Hat, 
 not Dell, is the distributor."

  - Red Hat's Mark Webbink clarified on August 27th that GPL software not 
packaged by Red Hat (such as the courier package included with the Dell 
PowerEdge Web Server Powered By Red Hat version 3.0) is not distributed by 
Red Hat

  - The Information Update and Deployment Guide provided with Dell 
PowerEdge Web Server version 3.1 Powered by Red Hat Linux are a future 
release of the documents from the previous version but does not have the 
additional text that Matt Domsch promised.

  - None of the materials in Dell PowerEdge Web Server version 3.1 Powered 
by Red Hat Linux contain instructions on how to order media of all related 
GPL source code

  - On October 29th, Dell and Red Hat co-hosted an "Open Source Security
Summit" promoting themselves as being vendors of Open Source and implied
that they where following established practices of the Open Source
community (including honoring the terms of the GPL when redistributing 
binaries based on GPL works)

  - On October 29th Dell/Red Hat was still (and continue to be) the
distributors of GPL packages included with Dell PowerEdge Web Server
version 3.1 Powered by Red Hat Linux without provided the related source
code during redistribution or a written notice on how to order a media of 
all the related GPL source code thus not honoring their own implied 
marketing

  - As of December 11th, neither Dell or Red Hat have an answer as to 
where to find a written notice provided at the time of distribution for 
getting media with all the related GPL source code

  - Also, as of December 11th, the web page that Matt Domsch claimed to be
providing a written notice (despite not being provided at the time of
distribution) no longer contains the footnote he claimed it did.  The lack 
of written notice is located at:
http://www.dell.com/us/en/biz/products/model_pedge_2_pedge_web.htm#tn1

  - Dell still prints "All rights reserved" along the sides of CDs 2 and 3 
of the Dell PowerEdge Web Server version 3.1 Powered by Red Hat Linux 
despite the fact that these CDs should be legally copyable based on the 
permissions extended by the licenses of each of the works on those two 
CDs

  - Red Hat still accepts Dell's use of the Red Hat shadowman logo in 
connection with the Dell PowerEdge Web Server version 3.1 Powered by Red 
Hat Linux despite the fact that they have been notified that it does not 
honor either GPL clause 3a or 3b when performing commerical redistribution 
of binaries covered by the GPL


  The goal of the website we are putting together will be to inform
consumers of inconsistencies between Red Hat/Dell marketing materials and
the a

Re: backup file to cdrom

[Yoink!]

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Jianping Zhu wrote:
> I tried but get error msg,
> no manual entry for cdrecord
> no manual entry for mkisofs
> what can i do next?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Yoink! wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Jianping Zhu wrote:
> > > what is the command to backup files (directories) to CDROM in linux?
> >
> > man mkisofs
> > man cdrecord

http://www.linuxdocs.org/sln/cdcommands/

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Re: backup file to cdrom

[Jianping Zhu]

I tried but get error msg,
no manual entry for cdrecord
no manual entry for mkisofs 
what can i do next?

Thanks

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Yoink! wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Jianping Zhu wrote:
> > what is the command to backup files (directories) to CDROM in linux?
> 
> man mkisofs
> man cdrecord
> 
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Re: backup file to cdrom

[Yoink!]

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Jianping Zhu wrote:
> what is the command to backup files (directories) to CDROM in linux?

man mkisofs
man cdrecord

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backup file to cdrom

[Jianping Zhu]

what is the command to backup files (directories) to CDROM in linux?

Thanks



Jianping Zhu
Department of Computer Science
Univerity of Georgia 
Athens, GA 30602
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CD-RW (scsi)

[Andrew MacKenzie]

I've got a Yamaha CRW4416SX CD-RW (scsi) on an Adaptec AHA-2940/2940W SCSI
PCI controller.

This drive used to work fine as a RW under RH 7.3.  Since I've upgraded to
8.0 however, I can only burn disks.  I can't use RW CD's (which is really
bothering me because I use them to backup data).  Anybody else have this
issue or any ideas?


I get the following from cdrecord (sorry so long):

Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jrg Schilling
TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM
fs: 6291456 buflen: 6295552
cdrecord: shared memory segment attached: 40022000
buf: 40022000 bufend: 40623000, buflen: 6295552
buf: 40022000 bufend: 40623000, buflen: 6295552 (align 0)
scsidev: '0,1,0'
scsibus: 0 target: 1 lun: 0
scg__open() 0,1,0
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
l1: 0x1 l2: 0x0
Bus: 0 Target: 1 Lun: 0 Chan: 0 Ino: 0
Using libscg version 'schily-0.5'
Target (0,1,0): DMA max 129024 old max: 64512
SCSI buffer size: 64512
Target (0,1,0): DMA max 129024 old max: 64512
scgo_getbuf: 64512 bytes
atapi: 0
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 08
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 08
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 00
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 08
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 2
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   : SYNC 
Vendor_info: 'YAMAHA  '
Identifikation : 'CRW4416S'
Revision   : '1.0f'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW.
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 08

Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr).
Driver flags   : SWABAUDIO
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 08
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 08
FIFO size  : 6291456 = 6144 KB
Track 01: data0 MB padsize: 440 KB
Total size:   0 MB (00:04.02) = 302 sectors
Lout start:   1 MB (00:06/02) = 302 sectors
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 08
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 08
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 08
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 08
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 08
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 08
cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 01 00 00
Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x3A Qual 0x01 (medium not present - tray closed) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 
cmd finished after 0.003s timeout 40s
ioctl ret: 0
host_status: 00 driver_status: 08
cdrecord: No disk / Wrong disk!
 

lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1647 Northbridge [MAGiK 1 / 
MobileMAGiK 1] (rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] PCI to AGP Controller
00:02.0 USB Controller: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
00:04.0 IDE interface: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M5229 IDE (rev c4)
00:06.0 USB Controller: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
00:07.0 ISA bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge [Aladdin IV]
00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio 
Controller] (rev 03)
00:0a.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-2940/2940W / AIC-7871
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ 
(rev 10)
00:0d.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20268 (rev 02)
00:11.0 Bridge: Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi] M7101 PMU
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX] (rev a1)

lsmod:
Module  Size  Used byTainted: PF 
sg 36556   0 (autoclean)
NVdriver 1149152  10 (autoclean)
ymf724 2   1
opl3   16196   1 [ymf724]
uart401 9344   1 [ymf724]
pnp54400   1 [ymf724]
ac979728   1 [ymf724]
soundbase 595936   1 [ymf724 opl3 uart401 pnp ac97]
sndshield  14348   0 [ymf724 opl3 uart401 pnp ac97 soundbase]
nfsd   80048   8 (autoclean)
lockd  58096   1 (autoclean) [nfsd]
sunrpc 79420   1 (autoclean) [nfsd lockd]
autofs 13348   0 (autoclean) (unused)
8139too17704   1
mii 2156   0 [8139too]
iptable_filter  2412   0 (autoclean) (unused)
ip_tables  14840   1 [iptable_filter]
reiserfs  199664   8 (autoclean)
pwcx-gcc32 87552   0
pwc47400   0 [pwcx-gcc32]
videodev8320   1 [pwc]
mousedev5524   1
keybdev 2976   0 (unused)
hid22244   0 (unused)
input   5888   0 [mousedev keybdev hid]
usb-ohci   21288   0 (unused)
usbcore77056   1 [pwc hid usb-ohci]
ext3   70400   2
jbd52212   2 [ext3]
aic7xxx   137140   0
sd_mod 13552   0 (unused)
scsi_mod  107144   3 

Re: USB mouse How to configure? novice need help

[Edward Dekkers]

> Thanks Edward Dekkers. By the way, i don't think i have load the use
module
> in. i can't see usb in the /proc/bus and only have pci but no usb.
nonthing
> inside the /var/logs/messages. How do i load the usb module in?

OK, the fact that you don't have a /proc/bus/usb is problem #1.

First off - What version of RedHat Linux are you running?

Secondly - post your /var/log/dmesg - there should be a section like this:

---

usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.259 $ time 07:17:39 Feb 26 2002
usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xe000, IRQ 10
usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: v1.251:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver

---

You have any of that happening?

Also, is the USB enabled in the BIOS?

Sorry for the delay in replying.

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Re: Re: Total nOOb question: uninstalling software (Ben Russo)

[Alex RENE]

Thanks Ben!! That little script idea will certainly come very handy!!


> Message: 1
> Subject: Re: Total nOOb question: uninstalling software
> From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: 
> Date: 12 Dec 2002 14:30:31 -0500
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 11:27, Alex RENE wrote:
> > Hi all... I know, it's REALLY a nOOb type of question but... How do
> you
> > uninstall stuff you did not install by RPMs like from tar.gz and the
> > likes ... I have WAY too many browsers installed on my machine, and
> I d
> > like to get rid of a few other things too...
> > 
> > -- 
> > Alex RENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Another thing you can do, 
> it takes a long time, but it does work.
> 
> write a script that does the following
> as root, I am not testing these commands,
> so you might want to think about the gist of 
> it and then rewrite it yourself.
> 
> mkdir /tmp/FILES
> find / -type f > /tmp/FILES/filelist
> cd /tmp/FILES
> split --lines=50 filelist
> rm filelist
> for FILEBATCH in `find . -type f`
> do
>   for AFILE in `cat $FILEBATCH`
> do
> rpm -qf $AFILE | grep -v "is not owned by any package" >>
> /tmp/FILES/not-owned-list.txt
> done
> done
> 
> Then when you are done you will have a list of the files that
> are not owned by any RPMS.
> 
> -Ben.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: File Sizes

[Alex Janssen]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 04:10, IS Department wrote:
> I would like to get a listing of the 100 or 500 or 1000 largest files on my system. 
>Does anyone know of a command or script to do this? I would want file name/location 
>and size in bytes.
> 
> Thanks

Try :
find . -size +2000 -size -4000 -exec ls -l {} \; | more

This command finds all files greater than 1000K and less than 2000K

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Samba vs. WIndows XP

[Linux Admin]

I am trying to access a Samba share from a Windows XP PC. The share is
configured with SHARE security mode. Guest access is disabled. The
"valid user" entry has the user ID with which I want to access. I have
done "cat /etc/passwd |mksmbpasswd.sh >/etc/samba/smbpasswd". The smb
password file is pointing to /etc/samba/smbpasswd. I have enabled
encryption. But, I cannot access the share. Every time I try to access
teh share from XP, it prompts me to login. The user name field is grayed
out. How can I access teh samba share from XP ?

Any help please.

Thank you list.





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RE: Linux Kernel Configurator

[Adam H. Pendleton]

 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

No, there is no other way.  Consider the Linux Kernel Configurator a pretty 
replacement for the "make xconfig" command.

ahp

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> On Behalf Of Ted Gervais
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 20:09
> To: redhat-list
> Subject: Linux Kernel Configurator
> 
> 
> I just found this 'Linux Kernel Configurator' in
>   Kcontrol>System of KDE and I am running just how to use it?
> 
> I already went through the various paramaters of the Kernel and made the
> changes needed, and than saved the file to the Kernels directory as
> .config.
> 
> Now that I did all that, how are these changes brought into the actual
> Kernel?
> The only way I found to do this was to run ' make menuconfig' (first) and
> than
> saved it, before I compiled these changes into the Kernel. I assume one
> must
> still run the old manual commands to incorporate the changes needed in the
> kernel.  As such I ran ' make dep clean bzImage && make modules
> modules_install'.
> 
> This gave me the changes needed but is there another way. I ask this
> question
> simply because of this NEW feature (to me) of the 'Linux Kernel
> configurator'
> existing in the Kcontrol area of KDE??
> 
> Sure would be nice NOT to have to compile all these changes but I can't
> see
> any other way..
> 
> Any thoughts guys??
> --
> T.L.Gervais
> 2381 Loretta Ave ., Coldbrook, NS
> Canada.
> 
> 
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Re: LPI or RHCE?

[Ryurick M. Hristev]

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Ben Russo wrote:

[...]

> A person who is a UNIX guru, and knew PC hardware well,
> could take the RHCE and pass it *IF* he just had more time
> to take the EXAM.

Maybe, maybe not. There are things which are very Linux
(and PC) specific. E.g. the bootloaders. And various other
Unix flavors differ quite significantly among them. What Unix
systems are you talking about ? All of them ?

> A person who knows RedHat on PC hardware extremely well,
> might pass the RHCE exam,

That's basically the idea of the exam. Isn't it ?

> but not be able to impress me as a System Admin.

OK, what does then impress you ? :-)

> There were several people I know very well who are 
> *Damn-Good* Sys-Admins with 20 years of experience
> and who can write GUI X-windows Games in standard C code

This is IMHO definitely not a required skill for a sysadmin.

> in their sleep that couldn't pass that RHCE exam.
> 
> There were also people in the exam with me who had no
> real enterprise experience at all, but who had worked with
> their workstation and home firewall on PC hardware for
> a year or two and studied hard and aced the exam.

Any "exam" will be limited in scope due to their time restrictions.

So first, ask yourself what that piece of paper wants to prove ?

And second, IMHO any certificate is good only to shut up people
who do not know better.

Cheers,
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Re: boot error with grub..

[Rick Johnson]

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Ted Gervais wrote:
| I am trying to install a new kernel in grub and this is what I have added:
|
| title Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-18.8.0ax25)
| root (hd1,0)
| kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-18.8.0ax25 ro root=LABEL=/1 hdd=ide-scsi
| initrd /initrd-2.4.18-18.8.0ax25.img

| What does this mean. Why is the ' root=LABEL=/1 hdd=ide-scsi'  line wrong in
| this 'block'.  All the other blocks in grub use this same 'root' option??

Not sure what the hdd=ide-scsi part means, but root=LABEL=/1 looks kinda
funny. Perhaps it's just LABEL=/

To be sure - boot into the other kernel and run e2fslabel to verify (or cat
your fstab).

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boot error with grub..

[Ted Gervais]

I am trying to install a new kernel in grub and this is what I have added:

title Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-18.8.0ax25)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-18.8.0ax25 ro root=LABEL=/1 hdd=ide-scsi
initrd /initrd-2.4.18-18.8.0ax25.img


It is identical to the 'block' before it, except this one is compiled with a 
different name (2.4.18-18.8.0ax25)..

Now, when I try to boot the system up using this new kernel here is what I 
get-

--
ds:no socket drivers loaded!
VFS: Cannot open root device "LABEL=/1" or 00:00
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
Kernel panic : VFS Unable to mount root fs on 00:00

What does this mean. Why is the ' root=LABEL=/1 hdd=ide-scsi'  line wrong in 
this 'block'.  All the other blocks in grub use this same 'root' option??


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Re: Boot up Problem. Plz Help.

[Ryurick M. Hristev]

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, rahul b jain cs student wrote:

> HI,
> 
> This problem is related to X-windows boot up. After every couple of days,
> my machines fails to boot up in the x-windows mode. When I delete some of
> the log files, it boots up properly in the X-windows mode.
> 
> Is there a permanent solution to this problem ?

Looks like a disk space problem.

Cheers,
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Re: audio cd in red hat

[Ben Russo]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 17:44, greg wrote:
> All sorted now.  Thanks Ben.  The setting were turned off as default.  
> 
> regards Greg
> 
> On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 06:04, Ben Russo wrote:
> > On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 03:12, greg wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I can't play music cds on my computer under RH8.  The Red Hat
> > > documentation points you towards a program in menu/sound&video/CD
> > > Player, but this is not in my menu.  I installed the complete package
> > > (everything), so it should be there really.  When I open up other
> > > programs to play the CD, such as KsCD, it starts to play (counter
> > > working) and the CD drive is working, but no sound.  In the KsCD
> > > program, I get a message No matching feedb entry found.
> > > 
> > > How do I play music cd's please.
> > > thanks Greg
> > 
> > Make sure that you have the audio cable on your CD-drive attached to the
> > sound card.  And make sure that your speakers are turned on and the
> > volume is turned up.  Also find the application in the start menu called
> > Kmixer or whatever it is that lets you adjust the "soft" volume controll
> > for your soundcard and make sure it is turned up.
> > 
> >

No problem, I did the same thing :-)

Now do yourself a favor and go to http://psyche.freshrpms.net/
and get:
xmms
xine
grip

And if you are daring try the "alsa" stuff, and the alsa-xmms.

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Re: GRUB

[Keith W. Sheffield]

> "Ted" == Ted Gervais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Now with that said -  how do I amend the grub config file found in
> /boot/grub. Do I just edit it as I would lilo.conf?  Or is there a more
> sophisticated way of doing it? 

You can just edit them, but I _think_ that when you add or remove kernels
using rpm, the entries in /boot/grub/grub.conf get modified.  You do not
have to run anything after modifying them like you had to do with lilo.



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Re: grub and .img files

[Keith W. Sheffield]

> "Ted" == Ted Gervais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Here is a portion of my grub.conf file and I am wondering how to make the 
> *.img files? (ie: /initrd-2.4.18-18.8.0.img)

mkinitrd is what creates these files.  It's manual page does a good job of
explaining how to use it.  The simplest form is:

mkinitrd  ramdisk_img_name kernel_version

> -
> title Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-18.8.0)
> root (hd1,0)
> kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-18.8.0 ro root=LABEL=/1 hdd=ide-scsi
> initrd /initrd-2.4.18-18.8.0.img
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Re: GRUB

[Ben Russo]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 19:17, Ted Gervais wrote:
> I am new to GRUB but am willing to learn it.  Lilo was becoming 'old hat' so I 
> did an 'install' of Redhat8.0 and allowed GRUB to become the Linux loader.
> 
> Now with that said -  how do I amend the grub config file found in /boot/grub.
> Do I just edit it as I would lilo.conf?  Or is there a more sophisticated way 
> of doing it?
> -- 
> T.L.Gervais
> 2381 Loretta Ave ., Coldbrook, NS
> Canada.

Well, you can edit it with VI, that is easy.
You don't have to run anything after you edit it.

You can also run "grubby --help" and use that if you want.

I think that in KDE or GNOME there is a well hidden gui thing...

I just use "vi"




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Re: grub and .img files

[Thornton Prime]

>
> Here is a portion of my grub.conf file and I am wondering how to make
> the  *.img files? (ie: /initrd-2.4.18-18.8.0.img)

The easiest way is with the mkinitrd command. man mkinitrd for details.

If you install or remove a RedHat kernel RPM it should add or remove
associated initrd's.

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Re: KDE vs Gnome

[Keith W. Sheffield]

> "-Taylor" == -Taylor - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> An age old question for the collective...KDE or Gnome...
> Greetings all!  I have an older (266MHz 96MB RAM) PC running RedHat 7.3.  It 
> plods along at a decent rate.  I installed the KDE desktop just out of force 
> of habit and was wondering if Gnome would run quicker or if there is really 
> no drastic performance differences.

Based on my experience with both desktops, I would choose GNOME.

I've put KDE geared distros on machines ranging from a P233 to a 450MHz
CeleronA with memory between 64M and 160M.  They have _always_ been slower
than when the same machines were running GNOME.  I also wouldn't recommend
having anything less than 128M for KDE either.  The 450MHz machine w/ 64M
was painful to use while running KDE but was ok once it had at least 128M.

If you need a GUI filemanager, turn off Nautilus and use GMC.  Better yet,
don't use one at all.  I have a Dell P166 laptop w/ 80M running GNOME w/
GMC and it does an acceptable job for me.  (FWIW, My computer illiterate
relatives even thought it was nicer to use than my sister's Windows
machine).  I think Dennis Powell had a column a few months ago about
running GNOME or KDE on low powered/resource machines.  I've always viewed
him as a KDE fan, and he even chose GNOME for those types of machines.




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Boot up Problem. Plz Help.

[rahul b jain cs student]

HI,

This problem is related to X-windows boot up. After every couple of days,
my machines fails to boot up in the x-windows mode. When I delete some of
the log files, it boots up properly in the X-windows mode.

Is there a permanent solution to this problem ?

Thanks,
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Linux Kernel Configurator

[Ted Gervais]

I just found this 'Linux Kernel Configurator' in
  Kcontrol>System of KDE and I am running just how to use it?

I already went through the various paramaters of the Kernel and made the 
changes needed, and than saved the file to the Kernels directory as .config.

Now that I did all that, how are these changes brought into the actual Kernel?
The only way I found to do this was to run ' make menuconfig' (first) and than 
saved it, before I compiled these changes into the Kernel. I assume one must 
still run the old manual commands to incorporate the changes needed in the 
kernel.  As such I ran ' make dep clean bzImage && make modules 
modules_install'.

This gave me the changes needed but is there another way. I ask this question 
simply because of this NEW feature (to me) of the 'Linux Kernel configurator' 
existing in the Kcontrol area of KDE??

Sure would be nice NOT to have to compile all these changes but I can't see 
any other way..

Any thoughts guys??
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RE: Redhat Advanced Server 2.1 and Sendmail configuration?

[Justin M. Lokitz]

It workedthank you.

-Justin

--- "Cowles, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Justin M. Lokitz
> > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 3:12 PM
> > Subject: RE: Redhat Advanced Server 2.1 and
> Sendmail configuration?
> > 
> > 
> > I am not getting a server error, rather, I am not
> able
> > to Telnet to port 25.  I did restart Sendmail and
> got
> > the following output from "netstat -pant|grep
> :25":
> > 
> > [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]#tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:25   
>
> > 0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN 
> 911/sendmail:
> > accep
> >
> 
> Based on the above output, sendmail is still
> configured to ONLY listen on
> localhost. Although you should be able to telnet to
> port 25 at localhost
> though.
> 
> Are you sure you...
> 
> 1) Edited your sendmail.mc file and commented the
> following line by placing
> "dnl" at the beginning of the line. Ex:
> 
> dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1,
> Name=MTA')
> 
> 2) rebuilt your sendmail.cf file by typing:
> 
> m4 sendmail.mc >/tmp/sendmail.cf
> 
> 3) Replace your original sendmail.cf file with the
> new one created above.
> Ex: If your original sendmail.cf file exists in
> /etc/mail... 
> 
> cd /etc/mail
> cp sendmail.cf sendmail.cf.orig
> cp /tmp/sedmail.cf sendmail.cf
> 
> Note: Based on how RH Advanced Server compiled
> sendmail (I have no idea),
> sendmail could actually be referencing
> /etc/sendmail.cf, not
> /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. Also, as Ben Russo pointed
> out in his reply, sendmail
> could have been compiled with tcp_wrapper support. 
> 
> To check, type:
> 
> sendmail -bt -d0.21  
> The output of the above command will tell you
> everything you want to know
> about how sendmail was compiled (and then some!).
> 
> 4) Finally, restart sendmail
> service sendmail restart
> 
> Thats my 2 bits, good luck
> Steve Cowles
> 
> 
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Re: grub and .img files

[Rick Johnson]

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Ted Gervais wrote:
| Here is a portion of my grub.conf file and I am wondering how to make the
| *.img files? (ie: /initrd-2.4.18-18.8.0.img)
|
| -
| title Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-18.8.0)
| root (hd1,0)
| kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-18.8.0 ro root=LABEL=/1 hdd=ide-scsi
| initrd /initrd-2.4.18-18.8.0.img
| 

man mkinitrd

but to get to the point:

mkinitrd  

i.e.

mkinitrd initrd-2.4.18-18.8.0.img 2.4.18-18.8.0

or for a custom job:

mkinitrd initrd-2.4.20.img 2.4.20

This will basically look for whatever modules have to be loaded at start
(i.e. SCSI and FS) that haven't been compiled in already, and make an
initial ramdisk file containing the needed modules.

Enjoy,
- -Rick
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Re: LPI or RHCE?

[Ben Russo]

I agree with almost everything you said.
Just have something to add.
Having taken and passed the RHCE myself..

A person who is a UNIX guru, and knew PC hardware well,
could take the RHCE and pass it *IF* he just had more time
to take the EXAM.

A person who knows RedHat on PC hardware extremely well,
might pass the RHCE exam, but not be able to impress me
as a System Admin.

There were several people I know very well who are 
*Damn-Good* Sys-Admins with 20 years of experience
and who can write GUI X-windows Games in standard C code
in their sleep that couldn't pass that RHCE exam.

There were also people in the exam with me who had no
real enterprise experience at all, but who had worked with
their workstation and home firewall on PC hardware for
a year or two and studied hard and aced the exam.

-Ben. 



On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 17:48, Jose Vicente Nunez Z wrote:
> Hello to all,
> 
> On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 16:11, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Patrick Law wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I don't have a lot experience in Linux,
> > > 
> > > This is a key issue. You will have a very hard time going for RHCE
> > > and I suspect likely for LPI as well.
> > 
> > admittedly, i don't know as much about these as i'd like, but one
> > major difference (i think) is that, until recently, even the *first*
> > level of red hat certification was tough to get -- that was the 
> > RHCE.  there was nothing below that until recently, when RH introduced
> > the ... um ... red hat certified administrator?  is that what it's called?
> > it's a bit more entry-level, for those folks who wanted *something*
> > official but weren't up for the RHCE.
> > 
> 
> Actually the test IS difficult. If you don't have experience, then
> forget about it. Better practice, get your hands dirty with the OS a
> couple of months and then take the exam. 
> 
> When i got the test i saw a couple of guys that only knew Microsoft
> stuff (and some others with pure AIX experience) and they got hammered.
> 
> 
> > LPI, on the other hand, seems to have more entry-level official
> > certification, and more levels that you can get as you become more
> > competent.
> > 
> 
> I don't really like this certification because 'neutral vendor's is kind
> of silly. I mean, if you work with Linux, you end using an specific
> Linux distribution (not to talk the extra work to maintain several
> different Linux breeds like Slackware, Redhat, Suse, etc together). 
> 
> I think the idea of the RHCE is to prove than you know Redhat very well.
> Being  generic is not very helpful when you have to deal with the
> problems of a particular distro (on the other hand if you use Suse or
> Slackware then LPI makes more sense).
> 
> Finally, invest your money wisely. Any certification costs money (time
> is money too), and a recognized certification  will be more valuable if
> is recognized among IT managers (no offense here, but thats the world we
> live in).
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> JV.
> 
> 
> > rday
> > 
> > 
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grub and .img files

[Ted Gervais]

Here is a portion of my grub.conf file and I am wondering how to make the 
*.img files? (ie: /initrd-2.4.18-18.8.0.img)

-
title Red Hat Linux (2.4.18-18.8.0)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-18.8.0 ro root=LABEL=/1 hdd=ide-scsi
initrd /initrd-2.4.18-18.8.0.img

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Re: Is there a list of chkconfig --list descriptions

[Bret Hughes]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 16:47, Ben Russo wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 17:26, Søren Neigaard wrote:
> > Is there somewhere I can find a description of each service in
> > chkconfig --list so I know what I need running and what I don't?
> > 
> > --
> > Med venlig hilsen/Best regards,
> >  Søren Neigaard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > --
> >  "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas 
>in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function."
> 
> 
> Yes, in /etc/rc.d/init.d there is a script for each of the services
> listed in chkconfig --list output.
> 
> You can "view" those scripts and read the comments.
> 
> Also if you do a "makewhatis" and a "updatedb" 
> Then you can use the "locate" and "man -K" or "man -k" 
> commands to find relevant information.
> 
> -Ben.
> 

pretty ugly oneliner but it will let you read the info for each service 

cut the 2 lines below and paste into an xterm

cd /etc/rc.d/init.d/;for service in * ;\
do rpm -qif $PWD/$service;read;clear; done



HTH

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RE: Redhat 8.0 Questions

[Engstrom_Carl]

I guess I need to clarify.  I'm using 2 addresses from my IPS for a number
of reasons.  I can't have the RH system running as a client off the router.
Both addresses are in fact dynamic from my provider, thus the need for
dyndns.  So my config looks more like:

ISP <-> Cable Modem <-> D-Link <-> Switch serving all clients.
   |  ^
 |-> RedHat-|

In this case both the router and the RH have public addresses and they both
plug back into the private LAN.  The reason for running NAT off the RH
system, is that I would like to have a few of my clients run through that
gateway for performance and reliability.

thanks

carl

-Original Message-
From: Joe Polk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Redhat 8.0 Questions


I'm confused. If you have static addresses, what do you want with DYNDNS?
Stock fw for RH is ipchains/iptables. Why, if you're already behind a NAT 
router do you want to turn on NAT? Maybe I'm confused about your router. You

will make you're like MUCH simpler to let the router do NAT, give your RH 
machine a local IP and use the router as your gateway. Voila! Anything you 
want to server up from your RH box can be forwarded via the forwarding 
features of your D-Link. In other words your schedmatic would be as follows:

ISP <-> Cable Modem <-> D-Link <-> Switch serving all clients.

<>

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Sent: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:42:54 -0500
Subject: Redhat 8.0 Questions

> I have a couple of questions that I would love to see if anyone can
> answer...Answer any or all of them...
>  
> Configuration:
> I'm Running Stock RH 8.0 (Fresh install) on an X86 system.  
> 
> (2) NIC cards one attached to hub with cable modem and D-Link Router,
>  other connected to switch and internal net. I have 2 seperate IPs 
> from my provider, one goes to the Router, the other to the RH box. 
> (68.x.x.10, 68.x.x.11) Then...I have the router and the RH box both 
> pluged back into a shared switch that serves the internal 
> network(192.168.100.*)
>  
> Here are the questions:
>  
> 1) First, I have NAT running on the router, but I want it on the 
> Linux box as well.  How do I start NAT on the RH box.  I'm running 
> the stock firewall...Lokkit I think. 2) I get lots of "Martian 
> Headers" which I believe is caused by the network setup, but I don't 
> know what I'm doing that is out of spec.  Every client has the 
> router as it's gateway; the router has a DHCP provided Gateway; the 
> RH box has a dhcp provided gateway and address. 3) On occasion, I 
> would proxy from the RH box via Squid (that is running on that 
> system) and configure the D-link router, this works most of the time,
>  but once in a while, when I do this, the switch or router would 
> lock up and I'd have to reset everything.  I thought that this might 
> be caused by some type of IP violation like, packets getting bounced 
> back and forth from the router to the RH box, or something...but I 
> don't know enough about networking to find out where I'm going 
> wrong. 4) How can I get RH to boot to text mode?  5) I have ddclient 
> 2.6.1 running on the system, but for some reason it's spamming my 
> DynDns provider.  It doesn't seem to be checking the cache file 
> before updating my provider.
>  
> Thanks for the help.
>  
> 
> Carl
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GRUB

[Ted Gervais]

I am new to GRUB but am willing to learn it.  Lilo was becoming 'old hat' so I 
did an 'install' of Redhat8.0 and allowed GRUB to become the Linux loader.

Now with that said -  how do I amend the grub config file found in /boot/grub.
Do I just edit it as I would lilo.conf?  Or is there a more sophisticated way 
of doing it?
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Re: KDE vs Gnome

[Johnathan Bailes]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 17:52, Anthony E. Greene wrote:
> On 12-Dec-2002/14:54 -0600, -Taylor - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >An age old question for the collective...KDE or Gnome...
> >
> >Greetings all!  I have an older (266MHz 96MB RAM) PC running RedHat 7.3.  It 
> >plods along at a decent rate.  I installed the KDE desktop just out of force 
> >of habit and was wondering if Gnome would run quicker or if there is really 
> >no drastic performance differences.
> 
> I have a 350MHz/192MB RAM box running RH72. GNOME runs faster than KDE as
> long as I use GMC instead of Nautilus. Otherwise they are about the same.
> Using Nautilus or Konqueror slows things down enough to be painful.
> 
> I prefer the appearance of GNOME over KDE, I know how to turn off Nautilus, and I 
>don't know how to turn off Konqueror, so I use GNOME w/GMC.
> 
> Tony
> -- 
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Yeah I agree with this.  I was amazed that anyone would state KDE 3.x is
faster than Gnome2.x environment.  I have consistently found this to be
opposite the case.  Nautilus for gnome 2.0 is much quicker BTW. 
However, I think you should try both out before deciding.  I know this
is a pain because it means installing both desktops.  I know this from
personal experience because now wife has switched from KDE to Gnome and
I have been contemplating removing the packages myself.  


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Re: Is there a list of chkconfig --list descriptions

[mklinke]

View the files in:

/etc/init.d and /etc/xinetd.d 

as each one begins with a short sentence describing what it's for. For more 
info you can hit the man pages for each service.

Regards, Mike Klinke


On Thursday 12 December 2002 22:26, Søren Neigaard wrote:
> Is there somewhere I can find a description of each service in
> chkconfig --list so I know what I need running and what I don't?



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Re: Disk Druid use after install - Fin

[Bob Hartung]

Thanks to Michael and Robert.  I'll read up on parted.

Thanks again,

Bob

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Does anyone know is DiskDruid is available after install to modify 
partitions on  an  EMPTY harddrive - hdb that was set up as a single
data directory but now needs to be partition prior to storing any
data?


Not yet if I'm informed correctly. But DiskDruid uses libparted, the
backend library of GNU parted. So if you would use "parted" to do
your partitioning, that's what I would suggest. If you don't like it
try "fdisk", but only as a last resort.

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Re: Is there a list of chkconfig --list descriptions

[Randy Franklin]

Just type...

bash# chkconfig --list

And remember than "man" is your friend.  Deciding on what you wish to 
run or not depends on what you plan to do.  RH8 is pretty nice about 
turning most superfluous services off as default, but you may still be 
able to trim it down.

It really just depends and personal pref. has something to do with it 
too ;-)

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Is there somewhere I can find a description of each service in
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Re: Is there a list of chkconfig --list descriptions

[Terry Moore-Read]

Actually chkconfig also lists services handled by xinetd  
so you will need to look in /etc/xinetd.d too
 
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wrote:> Is there somewhere I can find a description of each service 
in> chkconfig --list so I know what I need running and what I 
don't?> > --> Med venlig hilsen/Best regards,>  
Søren Neigaard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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Re: Composing accented characters using UK keyboard

[Michael Leuty]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 20:16, Michael Leuty wrote:
> I am aware that I can change the keyboard layout to US International and
> then use dead keys, but I wondered if there is any way of generating
> these characters using the UK English keyboard layout?

Excuse me answering my own post. I've found that by changing to the KDE
desktop, where the Keyboard option can sit in the Quick Start part of
the menu, it's very quick to change keyboard layout without using the
mouse. Also, I only have to enter the root password the first time I use
the option.

Prôblème sólvêd.  :-)

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Re: KDE vs Gnome

[Anthony E. Greene]

On 12-Dec-2002/14:54 -0600, -Taylor - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>An age old question for the collective...KDE or Gnome...
>
>Greetings all!  I have an older (266MHz 96MB RAM) PC running RedHat 7.3.  It 
>plods along at a decent rate.  I installed the KDE desktop just out of force 
>of habit and was wondering if Gnome would run quicker or if there is really 
>no drastic performance differences.

I have a 350MHz/192MB RAM box running RH72. GNOME runs faster than KDE as
long as I use GMC instead of Nautilus. Otherwise they are about the same.
Using Nautilus or Konqueror slows things down enough to be painful.

I prefer the appearance of GNOME over KDE, I know how to turn off Nautilus, and I 
don't know how to turn off Konqueror, so I use GNOME w/GMC.

Tony
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Re: LPI or RHCE?

[Jose Vicente Nunez Z]

Hello to all,

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 16:11, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Patrick Law wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > I don't have a lot experience in Linux,
> > 
> > This is a key issue. You will have a very hard time going for RHCE
> > and I suspect likely for LPI as well.
> 
> admittedly, i don't know as much about these as i'd like, but one
> major difference (i think) is that, until recently, even the *first*
> level of red hat certification was tough to get -- that was the 
> RHCE.  there was nothing below that until recently, when RH introduced
> the ... um ... red hat certified administrator?  is that what it's called?
> it's a bit more entry-level, for those folks who wanted *something*
> official but weren't up for the RHCE.
> 

Actually the test IS difficult. If you don't have experience, then
forget about it. Better practice, get your hands dirty with the OS a
couple of months and then take the exam. 

When i got the test i saw a couple of guys that only knew Microsoft
stuff (and some others with pure AIX experience) and they got hammered.


> LPI, on the other hand, seems to have more entry-level official
> certification, and more levels that you can get as you become more
> competent.
> 

I don't really like this certification because 'neutral vendor's is kind
of silly. I mean, if you work with Linux, you end using an specific
Linux distribution (not to talk the extra work to maintain several
different Linux breeds like Slackware, Redhat, Suse, etc together). 

I think the idea of the RHCE is to prove than you know Redhat very well.
Being  generic is not very helpful when you have to deal with the
problems of a particular distro (on the other hand if you use Suse or
Slackware then LPI makes more sense).

Finally, invest your money wisely. Any certification costs money (time
is money too), and a recognized certification  will be more valuable if
is recognized among IT managers (no offense here, but thats the world we
live in).

Hope this helps.

JV.


> rday
> 
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Re: Is there a list of chkconfig --list descriptions

[Ben Russo]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 17:26, Søren Neigaard wrote:
> Is there somewhere I can find a description of each service in
> chkconfig --list so I know what I need running and what I don't?
> 
> --
> Med venlig hilsen/Best regards,
>  Søren Neigaard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
>  "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in 
>the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function."


Yes, in /etc/rc.d/init.d there is a script for each of the services
listed in chkconfig --list output.

You can "view" those scripts and read the comments.

Also if you do a "makewhatis" and a "updatedb" 
Then you can use the "locate" and "man -K" or "man -k" 
commands to find relevant information.

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Re: GUI Performance

[Ben Russo]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 17:11, Jim Slocomb wrote:
> Hi all,
> Please excuse a possibly dumb question from a newbie. I am evaluating rh8
> for a small local government and a couple of local NGOs. So far the most
> significant single glitch I have encountered is the extremely slow speed of
> the graphic interface. The platform is my 750mhz laptop with 256 mb ram,
> default rh8 personal workstation install.
> 
> When comparing the performance of the GIU and related applications Open
> Office or Star Office take minutes to load where MS Office 2000 on Win2K pro
> will take 10-15 seconds on the same machine.
> 
> It seems as though the Office Productivity applications take far longer to
> load than web browsers or Ximian Evolution.
> 
> Is this normal? Is it tweakable? All input gratefully appreciated.
> 
> Jim Slocomb

Microsoft tends to make Office Components TSR-like (Load into Memory,
but Terminate and Stay Ready), so even when you haven't used any office
components they are sitting in RAM just waiting to be called upon.

I would bet that if you configured the boxes to do an rpm -V of the
office suite RPMS during the boot process (would compute MD5 checksums,
and hence force them to be cached in RAM) that then when you logged into
the X-windows environment they would load up right quickly.

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Re: audio cd in red hat

[greg]

All sorted now.  Thanks Ben.  The setting were turned off as default.  

regards Greg

On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 06:04, Ben Russo wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 03:12, greg wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I can't play music cds on my computer under RH8.  The Red Hat
> > documentation points you towards a program in menu/sound&video/CD
> > Player, but this is not in my menu.  I installed the complete package
> > (everything), so it should be there really.  When I open up other
> > programs to play the CD, such as KsCD, it starts to play (counter
> > working) and the CD drive is working, but no sound.  In the KsCD
> > program, I get a message No matching feedb entry found.
> > 
> > How do I play music cd's please.
> > thanks Greg
> 
> Make sure that you have the audio cable on your CD-drive attached to the
> sound card.  And make sure that your speakers are turned on and the
> volume is turned up.  Also find the application in the start menu called
> Kmixer or whatever it is that lets you adjust the "soft" volume controll
> for your soundcard and make sure it is turned up.
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Redhat Advanced Server 2.1 and Sendmail configuration?

[Cowles, Steve]

> -Original Message-
> From: Justin M. Lokitz
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 3:12 PM
> Subject: RE: Redhat Advanced Server 2.1 and Sendmail configuration?
> 
> 
> I am not getting a server error, rather, I am not able
> to Telnet to port 25.  I did restart Sendmail and got
> the following output from "netstat -pant|grep :25":
> 
> [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]#tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:25   
> 0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN  911/sendmail:
> accep
>

Based on the above output, sendmail is still configured to ONLY listen on
localhost. Although you should be able to telnet to port 25 at localhost
though.

Are you sure you...

1) Edited your sendmail.mc file and commented the following line by placing
"dnl" at the beginning of the line. Ex:

dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')

2) rebuilt your sendmail.cf file by typing:

m4 sendmail.mc >/tmp/sendmail.cf

3) Replace your original sendmail.cf file with the new one created above.
Ex: If your original sendmail.cf file exists in /etc/mail... 

cd /etc/mail
cp sendmail.cf sendmail.cf.orig
cp /tmp/sedmail.cf sendmail.cf

Note: Based on how RH Advanced Server compiled sendmail (I have no idea),
sendmail could actually be referencing /etc/sendmail.cf, not
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf. Also, as Ben Russo pointed out in his reply, sendmail
could have been compiled with tcp_wrapper support. 

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Re: Decent Word / Excel Conversion: Not yet?

[Bret Hughes]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 16:08, Rick Johnson wrote:
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> James Francis wrote:
> | Raj, Well-worded.
> | Like it or not, and trust me I hate it, Microsoft Word is a standard.  For
> | what it is worth,  I receive .lwp documents from IBM all the time.  I can't
> | open them up in OpenOffice and I can't open them up in Microsoft Word.
> | After research, I realized that lwp is for Lotus Word Pro.  They ended up
> | reconverting it into a PDF format for me.
> 
> One word:
> 
> RTF
> 
> Problem solved. Cross platform, cross application, just about anything can
> read it and most formatting isn't lost.
> 

Not too bad a solution or at least a step in the right direction.  I too
have been hit with this from both sides.  Unfortunatly for anything in
the general business world, Word appears to be the defacto standard but
that may be on the verge of change.  Did anyone read the infoworld
interveiw with McNealy of Sun where he said that Sony was going to
bundle star office on all their computers with others to follow?

http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/12/11/021211hnmcnealy.xml?1212theb


I have been running Office 97 on win4lin for a couple of years now
because we redline documents with various vendors and attorneys all the
time.  If we caould get a cross platform spec on that it would be a fine
world indeed.

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RE: Only static IPs works, DHCP hangs .....

[Chris Watt]

At 09:34 2002/12/12 -0600, you wrote:

This is not a silly question at all because I do not know much about 
configuring DHCP. The answer to your question is none of them. The only 
thing that I did was click the DHCP button in linuxconf on the nic that 
needs to be hooked up to my ISP. I must now ask a few silly questions now.
1. Is that required if I am *not* running a DHCP Server?

Just to be perfectly clear. If you are obtaining network settings through 
DHCP you should _not_ be running a DHCP server on the same interface. Also, 
under recent version of Redhat you should not need to go out of your way to 
configure a DHCP client. Redhat provides a DHCP client (dhcpcd by default I 
think, but they were using pump for a while and may be again/still) which 
is integrated into the network startup scripts. You should be able to just 
configure your network interface to use DHCP from the /usr/sbin/setup 
program (or it's GUI equivalent, the name of which escapes me at the moment).

2. I saw both of those on the internet in my search to find some answers, 
what do they do?

dhcpcd is a DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) client which allows 
a host (computer) to obtain network information (an IP address for itself, 
name servers to use, a default gateway, etc.) on a network which is managed 
by a DHCP server.

dhcpd is a DHCP server daemon intended to allow you to automatically 
configure client machines on your own network. Typically people run dhcpd 
when they have an IP based network with a large enough number of machines 
on it that it's impractical to configure all of the machines by hand (for 
me this tends to be "more than three"). The DHCP server allows them to 
store all the configuration data in one file on one machine, and greatly 
simplifies maintenance. e.g. if I have 200 machines all configured to use 
"10.0.0.99" as a name server and I suddenly need to switch over to using 
"10.0.0.100" instead. If I am not using DHCP (or something like it) then I 
have to go to all 200 of those machines and re-configure them. If I am 
using DHCP I simply update a line in the dhcpd.conf file, restart the 
service, and all the client machines update themselves. In a physically 
spread-out network (like a typical high-speed ISP for example) where the 
network administrators don't have easy physical access to most of the 
machines, a DHCP server is nearly mandatory. Otherwise they would create a 
tech-support nightmare every time they made a configuration change. If you 
want to know more then have a look at 
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/DHCP/index.html or for a more technical 
description http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2131.txt

n.b. While using DHCP introduces the possibility that your IP address may 
change when you renew your DHCP lease, it is not quite the same thing as 
having a dynamic IP address. Most reasonably well-configured DHCP servers 
will make every reasonable effort to ensure that clients keep the same IP 
address for as long as possible. I've been on cable since the spring of 
1998, and if memory serves my IP address has only changed twice, both times 
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Is there a list of chkconfig --list descriptions

[Søren Neigaard]

Is there somewhere I can find a description of each service in
chkconfig --list so I know what I need running and what I don't?

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Re: Disk Druid use after install

[Michael Schwendt]

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> Does anyone know is DiskDruid is available after install to modify 
> partitions on  an  EMPTY harddrive - hdb that was set up as a single
> data directory but now needs to be partition prior to storing any
> data?

Not yet if I'm informed correctly. But DiskDruid uses libparted, the
backend library of GNU parted. So if you would use "parted" to do
your partitioning, that's what I would suggest. If you don't like it
try "fdisk", but only as a last resort.

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Re: Disk Druid use after install

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Bob Hartung wrote:

> Does anyone know is DiskDruid is available after install to modify 
> partitions on  an  EMPTY harddrive - hdb that was set up as a single data 
> directory but now needs to be partition prior to storing any data?

install time only.

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GUI Performance

[Jim Slocomb]

Hi all,
Please excuse a possibly dumb question from a newbie. I am evaluating rh8
for a small local government and a couple of local NGOs. So far the most
significant single glitch I have encountered is the extremely slow speed of
the graphic interface. The platform is my 750mhz laptop with 256 mb ram,
default rh8 personal workstation install.

When comparing the performance of the GIU and related applications Open
Office or Star Office take minutes to load where MS Office 2000 on Win2K pro
will take 10-15 seconds on the same machine.

It seems as though the Office Productivity applications take far longer to
load than web browsers or Ximian Evolution.

Is this normal? Is it tweakable? All input gratefully appreciated.

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Re: Decent Word / Excel Conversion: Not yet?

[Rick Johnson]

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James Francis wrote:
| Raj, Well-worded.
| Like it or not, and trust me I hate it, Microsoft Word is a standard.  For
| what it is worth,  I receive .lwp documents from IBM all the time.  I can't
| open them up in OpenOffice and I can't open them up in Microsoft Word.
| After research, I realized that lwp is for Lotus Word Pro.  They ended up
| reconverting it into a PDF format for me.

One word:

RTF

Problem solved. Cross platform, cross application, just about anything can
read it and most formatting isn't lost.

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Disk Druid use after install

[Bob Hartung]

Does anyone know is DiskDruid is available after install to modify 
partitions on  an  EMPTY harddrive - hdb that was set up as a single data 
directory but now needs to be partition prior to storing any data?

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Re: LPI or RHCE?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Patrick Law wrote:
> 
> 
> > I don't have a lot experience in Linux,
> 
> This is a key issue. You will have a very hard time going for RHCE
> and I suspect likely for LPI as well.

admittedly, i don't know as much about these as i'd like, but one
major difference (i think) is that, until recently, even the *first*
level of red hat certification was tough to get -- that was the 
RHCE.  there was nothing below that until recently, when RH introduced
the ... um ... red hat certified administrator?  is that what it's called?
it's a bit more entry-level, for those folks who wanted *something*
official but weren't up for the RHCE.

LPI, on the other hand, seems to have more entry-level official
certification, and more levels that you can get as you become more
competent.

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Re: KDE vs Gnome

[Ben Russo]

IMHO, they are both big resource hogs.
But I like them both on high powered workstations. :-)

For my older boxes I use TWM or FVWM2.
I've heard that blackbox is really good too.

(you can get good RPM's for blackbox at freshrms.net)

-Ben.

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 15:54, -Taylor - wrote:
> An age old question for the collective...KDE or Gnome...
> 
> Greetings all!  I have an older (266MHz 96MB RAM) PC running RedHat 7.3.  It 
> plods along at a decent rate.  I installed the KDE desktop just out of force 
> of habit and was wondering if Gnome would run quicker or if there is really 
> no drastic performance differences.
> 
> 
> Thanks all
> -Gjallerbru-
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Redhat Advanced Server 2.1 and Sendmail configuration?

[Justin M. Lokitz]

I am not getting a server error, rather, I am not able
to Telnet to port 25.  I did restart Sendmail and got
the following output from "netstat -pant|grep :25":

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]#tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:25   
0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN  911/sendmail:
accep

Thank you,
Justin


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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Justin M. Lokitz
> > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 12:51 PM
> > Subject: Redhat Advanced Server 2.1 and Sendmail
> configuration?
> > 
> > 
> > I have successfully installed Redhat AS2.1 on two
> > machines, however, I would like to use the
> > preinstalled version of Sendmail on one of the
> > machines to receive outside email. I read over
> some of
> > the forums out there and learned that Redhat's
> 7.1+
> > version of sendmail is pre-configured to inly
> listen
> > to local traffic, not network. I used
> > http://colalug.org/ml-archive/0105/msg00021.html
> to
> > configure it to listen to network request on port
> > 25/SMTP, but it is still not working.
> 
> Exactly "how" is it not working? Post the error
> messages and/or netstat -nap
> output?
> 
> > Any suggestions?
> > I need this urgently? Thank you in advance
> 
> If you followed the above referenced post... did you
> re-create a new
> sendmail.cf file from your modified sendmail.mc
> file. Then, after copying
> your newly created sendmail.cf file on top of the
> original one, did you
> restart sendmail?
> 
> Steve Cowles
> 
> 
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Re: LPI or RHCE?

[Ryurick M. Hristev]

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Patrick Law wrote:


> I don't have a lot experience in Linux,

This is a key issue. You will have a very hard time going for RHCE
and I suspect likely for LPI as well.

> but I got some experience in Windows 2000 networks.

Except for the very basic stuff (like basic TCP/IP networking)
Windows experience is rather a liability, not an asset.
Please understand that I don't mean anything derogatory here,
there are just completely different worlds with completely
different cultures. Many are being caught in this trap:
trying to apply Windows frameworks in an Unix environment.
Most of these just don't work and then they complain about
Unix being hard when in fact they are just experiencing a culture
shock.

> If I want to go for Linux certification, should I go for LPI
> or RHCE? Any comment for these exams? Which one is more popular?

On a global level is being said that RHCE is more widely known,
particularly by HR. But you should probably check you particular
geographical location.

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Re: KDE vs Gnome

[Joseph A Nagy Jr]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 14:54, -Taylor - wrote:
> An age old question for the collective...KDE or Gnome...
> 
> Greetings all!  I have an older (266MHz 96MB RAM) PC running RedHat 7.3.  It 
> plods along at a decent rate.  I installed the KDE desktop just out of force 
> of habit and was wondering if Gnome would run quicker or if there is really 
> no drastic performance differences.
> 
> 
> Thanks all
> -Gjallerbru-

I use KDE on a 300MHz PII w/MMX, 128MB RAM, and run RH 7.2. I find that
KDE is faster and has a nicer interface then GNOME GENERALY, but I
really like the ability to add keyboard shortcuts to programs on the fly
(such as with GIMP). I also have GNOME installed (never use it, though).
I find they tend to be equal in performance. Just a matter of interface
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Re: LPI or RHCE?

[Francisco Neira]

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Patrick Law wrote:
| Hi,
|
|
|
| I don't have a lot experience in Linux, but I got some experience in
| Windows 2000 networks. If I want to go for Linux certification, should I
| go for LPI or RHCE? Any comment for these exams? Which one is more
popular?
|
|
|
| Patrick
|

Not trying to became a flamebait but I read this and found it illustrating.

http://www.certmag.com/issues/oct02/dept_insidecert.cfm?printversion=1

Hope this helps

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RE: Decent Word / Excel Conversion: Not yet?

[James Francis]

Raj, Well-worded.
Like it or not, and trust me I hate it, Microsoft Word is a standard.  For
what it is worth,  I receive .lwp documents from IBM all the time.  I can't
open them up in OpenOffice and I can't open them up in Microsoft Word.
After research, I realized that lwp is for Lotus Word Pro.  They ended up
reconverting it into a PDF format for me.

Conversion/Compatibility are the key and, in time, the standard may very
well change again, preferably to an open-doc format.

JMF
> -Original Message-
> From: Periyasamy, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Decent Word / Excel Conversion: Not yet?
> 
> 
> You are contradicting your own statement. Just because you 
> want to use a
> particular format, does not mean every one should change over to that
> format. The solution is compatibility and conversion tools. Every
> document format has its own advantages and disadvantages. 
> Hence, you can
> not expect people to stop using proprietary formats if such 
> formats have
> proven to become a widely accepted standard. When Microsoft Word was
> introduced, still people were using Word Perfect as standard for word
> processing. However, Word had its own document format, at the 
> same time
> you could open WordPerfect documents under Word or save Word documents
> as WordPerfect files. Ultimately Word document format became 
> a standard.
> Compatibility is the key word. If any new product whether 
> Open source or
> not needs to compete with existing products, the compatibility and
> conversion has to be a very important future. Without which 
> many "not so
> computer literate" users wont even think of changing over to an Open
> source application. Again, I am not saying Word format is the 
> way to go.
> COMPATIBILITY is what I mean. FYI, I am using Open Office 
> suite with RH
> 8.0 on my home PC.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Decent Word / Excel Conversion: Not yet?
> 
> 
> On December 12, 2002 11:30 am, Ed Wilts wrote:
> > We need good conversion tools, that's all there is to it.  
> We need to 
> > play in their world, not assume world domination by making them 
> > change.
> 
> it may sound naive, but it's not.  how else can we expect 
> people to stop
> using 
> proprietary formats?  wait for microsoft to adopt standars?  
> no.  social
> 
> change is the only way, and it starts with people like us.  if we
> recieve a 
> proprietary formatted file, open it in windows and re-save as 
> an rtf or 
> something... BUT then send them an email with a brief 
> explanation as to
> why 
> (and more importantly how) they should save documents they intend to 
> distribute in open formats.  it doesn't have to be technobabble, just 
> something simple like: "i got your file, but it took me 20minutes to
> open it 
> since micros~1 has refused to adopt a standardised system.  if you're
> going 
> to send me files, please use a more universal format."
> 
> even my grandmother would understand that, and with simple 
> instructions,
> 
> she'll send me a text file next time.
> 
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> an ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without 
> individual 
> responsibility.
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KDE vs Gnome

[-Taylor -]

An age old question for the collective...KDE or Gnome...

Greetings all!  I have an older (266MHz 96MB RAM) PC running RedHat 7.3.  It 
plods along at a decent rate.  I installed the KDE desktop just out of force 
of habit and was wondering if Gnome would run quicker or if there is really 
no drastic performance differences.


Thanks all
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Re: Decent Word / Excel Conversion: Not yet?

[Ben Russo]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 15:32, Michael A. Peters wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 08:30, Ed Wilts wrote:
> > That's naive.  The vast majority of us have absolutely no control over
> > somebody else's desktops.  What if you decided to start sending me MS
> > Word documents?  Are you going to let me change your desktop?  What
> > about my customers?
> > 
> > We need good conversion tools, that's all there is to it.  We need to
> > play in their world, not assume world domination by making them change.
> 
> Just for the record - the only time I've had trouble with MS Word
> documents in Open Office - if I export FROM OPEN OFFICE to html - it
> displays fine in Mozilla.
> 
> But anyway - before I had Open Office I would send the person a tactful
> e-mail explaining that I could not read their document because I do not
> have Microsoft Office, and asked them to save it as html.
> 
> They do with no issues.
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 

I figure that with all the countries beginning to endorse and distribute
Linux on a widescale basis that this will be a non-issue in 3 or 4 years
because Microsoft will have to try to make their office suite compatable
with standard formats in order to be competitive in the massive
emerging markets of India, China and Africa.

So in the meantime I have stopped being so anti-microsoft, and use
CodeWeavers Crossover Office product to use MS Office 2000 on my Linux
Desktop, it works just fine.

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RE: Problem with man pages

[James Francis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Robert P. J. Day [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Problem with man pages
> 
> 
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Michael Tyrrell wrote:
> 
> > I am running Red Hat 8.0 If I try to read the man pages I get the
> > garbage you see below. This problem is on all servers I 
> install Red Hat
> > on. I have this problem no matter how I access the server 
> Xwindows or
> > Telnet. I've also tried different terminal types. When I 
> print the man
> > page it looks just as bad. 
> > 
> > Any help would be appreciated Thanks.
> > 
> > NAME
> >lp â send requests to an LPRng print service
> > 
> > SYNOPSIS
> >lp [ âA ] [ âB ] [ âc ] [ âG ] [ âm ] [ âp ] [ âs ] 
> [ âw ] [ âd
> > dest ]
> > [ âf formâame [ âd any ] ] [ âH specialâandling ]
> > [ ân number ] [ âo option ] [ âP pageâist ]
> > [ âq priorityâevel ] [ âS characterâet [ âd any ] ]
> > [ âS printâheel [ ât title ]
> > [ âT contentâype [ âr ] ] [ ây modeâist ]
> > [ âX path ] [ âD debugâptions ]
> > [ file...  ]
> 
> besides supplying the standard answer, can someone provide 
> the *optimal*
> contents for the file /etc/sysconfig/i18n in red hat 8.0?
> 
> rday
I don't know if this is *optimal*, but it fixed that issue (along with lots
of others) for me:
/etc/sysconfig/i18n
LANG="en_US"
SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en"
SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"

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Re: Decent Word / Excel Conversion: Not yet?

[Michael A. Peters]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 08:30, Ed Wilts wrote:
> That's naive.  The vast majority of us have absolutely no control over
> somebody else's desktops.  What if you decided to start sending me MS
> Word documents?  Are you going to let me change your desktop?  What
> about my customers?
> 
> We need good conversion tools, that's all there is to it.  We need to
> play in their world, not assume world domination by making them change.

Just for the record - the only time I've had trouble with MS Word
documents in Open Office - if I export FROM OPEN OFFICE to html - it
displays fine in Mozilla.

But anyway - before I had Open Office I would send the person a tactful
e-mail explaining that I could not read their document because I do not
have Microsoft Office, and asked them to save it as html.

They do with no issues.


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Re: Redhat Advanced Server 2.1 and Sendmail configuration?

[Ben Russo]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 13:51, Justin M. Lokitz wrote:
> I would like to use the
> preinstalled version of Sendmail on one of the
> machines to receive outside email. I read over some of
> the forums out there and learned that Redhat's 7.1+
> version of sendmail is pre-configured to inly listen
> to local traffic, not network. I used
> http://colalug.org/ml-archive/0105/msg00021.html to
> configure it to listen to network request on port
> 25/SMTP, but it is still not working. Any suggestions?


check /etc/sysconfig/sendmail
check /etc/hosts.allow  
and /etc/hosts.deny

Maybe one of those is the problem?



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Composing accented characters using UK keyboard

[Michael Leuty]

I live in England, have a UK English keyboard, and usually type in
English.
So far so good.
But sometimes I try to type in French, and need to generate characters
with accents that do not appear on the UK English keyboard.
I am aware that I can change the keyboard layout to US International and
then use dead keys, but I wondered if there is any way of generating
these characters using the UK English keyboard layout?

Sorry to bother you with this query, but I haven't been able to find
anything on the RedHat site or by using Google.

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Re: browser discrimination article

[Ben Russo]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 10:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I remember having seen a web page which explained why its a bad idea to create
> a web page for a specific browser.  I beleive it was posted in this list but I
> can't find the link to the article.
> 
> The basic point of the article was something like you are telling your
> customers to go away if you restrict your web page to a certain kind of
> browser.
> 
> Does anyone know where this page is?   I tried google but got googlewhelmed.
> 
> ("googlewhelmed" DEF:  to be flooded with so much information that the reader
> is unable to make any significant progress in processing the information.)
> 

-*Slightly Off Topic*-

   _-SOAPBOX

You can print out this e-mail and use it as testimony if you want.

I have had the job titles:
Manager of Field Engineering
Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator
System Architect
in the last few years.

I've probably spec'd out and been responsible for ordering close
to $10,000,000 worth of hardware and software in the last 4 years. 

If I go to a vendors website and it doesn't work I go to a different
website.  I can't tell you how many times I have been on the lookout
for a dozen generic doo-dads, and found a vendors website that had 
them, but they refused to provide any contact information other than
a form for requesting Sales Rep contact and the form didn't work
in my Mozilla because it used some crappy ActiveX or JavaScript stuff.
Well, they lost a sale.

Many times I am using Mozilla in Linux.

You do the math.

Sincerely,
Ben Russo
(Currently)
Sr. Unix Systems Administrator
TNS Inc.


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RE: Redhat Advanced Server 2.1 and Sendmail configuration?

[Cowles, Steve]

> -Original Message-
> From: Justin M. Lokitz
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 12:51 PM
> Subject: Redhat Advanced Server 2.1 and Sendmail configuration?
> 
> 
> I have successfully installed Redhat AS2.1 on two
> machines, however, I would like to use the
> preinstalled version of Sendmail on one of the
> machines to receive outside email. I read over some of
> the forums out there and learned that Redhat's 7.1+
> version of sendmail is pre-configured to inly listen
> to local traffic, not network. I used
> http://colalug.org/ml-archive/0105/msg00021.html to
> configure it to listen to network request on port
> 25/SMTP, but it is still not working.

Exactly "how" is it not working? Post the error messages and/or netstat -nap
output?

> Any suggestions?
> I need this urgently? Thank you in advance

If you followed the above referenced post... did you re-create a new
sendmail.cf file from your modified sendmail.mc file. Then, after copying
your newly created sendmail.cf file on top of the original one, did you
restart sendmail?

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How to enable MSN Messenger uploads

[cotty]

How to enable MSN Messenger uploads from within a masq net behind a linux
firewall with RedHat 8.0



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Re: Custom kernel support

[Warren Sypteras]

Thanks for the reply but let me refine the question a bit.

Let's say you wanted to enable a kernel option that by default is 
disabled in the out of the box kernel and is not a option that can be
passed on the boot line or some other method?

You've probably wanted or needed to do this at some point...?  

Would you say that the support ends if you do the above?

Thanks

Warren

Ben Russo wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:01, Warren Sypteras wrote:
> > Folks;
> >
> > I read that Red Hat no longer supports custom kernels.  I take that to
> > mean any rebuilt kernel.  My quesiton is: What happens to customers that
> > have to re-compile to add support for hardware?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Warren
> 
> I guess that is why RedHat provides their "certified" hardware
> compatability lists.
> 
> Make sure the hardware you get is certified if you want to get RedHat
> to provide support for it.
> 
> SUN/HP/Microsoft/IBM, they all do the same.
> 
> Of course my company pays me to be the Sr. UNIX SysAdmin, so when I tell
> them to use Kingston Ram in an HP box because it costs 90% less they are
> paying me to support it, not HP.   :-)
> 
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Re: LPI or RHCE?

[Ben Russo]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 02:31, nate wrote:
> Patrick Law said:
> > If I want to go for Linux certification, should I go for LPI or RHCE? Any
> > comment for these two exams? Which one is more popular if I using it to
> > apply job.
> 
> not completely related, but as a linux "expert" whos been lookin
> for a new job since late august, I can say that of the 60 or so jobs
> I've applied for and of the probably 200-300 that I've seen, not
> a single one has mentioned linux certification of any kind. I've applied
> to a lot that request linux experience, or unix experience, but none
> have asked for certs. Now that I think about it I can't remember seeing
> any requests for solaris certs or any other kind of unix system certs.
> The only certs I see mentioned on job descriptions are networking certs
> (mostly CCNA, CCNP etc). A few of my former co workers got certified
> in solaris and they too have not found any jobs.
> 
> Maybe your area is different, but if your a linux newbie, I would focus
> on what "cert" gives better training, rather then the cert itself. One
> of my friends emailed me about a year ago asking about certs, posted
> a couple(RHCE included I think), and from my quick overviews I didn't
> see anything truely great about what was tested/taught, though I'm sure
> it's better then nothing.
> 
> nate
> (linux user since 1996, experienced with solaris, hpux, irix, tru64,
> aix, freebsd, openbsd, Debian, Redhat, slackware, Suse)

In the trade rags (ComputerWorld, LanTimes, PC Magazine )
they say that RHCE is more in demand in the U.S.
LPI is more in demand in Europe.

As a manager, I can say that in today's job market every open and
advertised postition will probably get 100+ resumes submitted.
A busy manager doesn't have time to sift the wheat from the chaff, 
so they try to explain to an HR Dept. staff member what they are looking
for.  That person looks at the resumes for certain KeyWords and 
pre-requisites, and sorts the resumes into one big pile and one little
pile.

The BIG pile is for people whose resumes did not prominently display 
the appropriate keywords, and the LITTLE pile is for resumes that did,
and the little pile gets passed on to the hiring manager for further
reading.

I've talked to a lot of friends lately, and the ones that get jobs 
fast are the ones who read "help wanted" postings carefully and 
identify the keywords and catch phrases that the employer is looking
for, and then they customize a resume to submit for that particular job
opportunity that emphasizes those WORDS and PHRASES right at the top of
the resume in big bold type so that their resume gets into the little
pile.

The people that I've talked to who search for a job for months with no
luck are the ones that make a generic resume and spam all the employers
with it.  Those Resumes almost always end up in the big pile and then in
the round file.

I've also found that posting my REAL resume on a web site that is nice
and clean and looks good, and then putting that URL in the middle of 
my resume gets hit on by the hiring manager when they get the little 
pile.  The hiring manager usually wants content.  The HR department
wants buzzwords. But you have to get past the HR department before you
can get to the hiring manager.

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RE: Decent Word / Excel Conversion: Not yet?

[Periyasamy, Raj]

You are contradicting your own statement. Just because you want to use a
particular format, does not mean every one should change over to that
format. The solution is compatibility and conversion tools. Every
document format has its own advantages and disadvantages. Hence, you can
not expect people to stop using proprietary formats if such formats have
proven to become a widely accepted standard. When Microsoft Word was
introduced, still people were using Word Perfect as standard for word
processing. However, Word had its own document format, at the same time
you could open WordPerfect documents under Word or save Word documents
as WordPerfect files. Ultimately Word document format became a standard.
Compatibility is the key word. If any new product whether Open source or
not needs to compete with existing products, the compatibility and
conversion has to be a very important future. Without which many "not so
computer literate" users wont even think of changing over to an Open
source application. Again, I am not saying Word format is the way to go.
COMPATIBILITY is what I mean. FYI, I am using Open Office suite with RH
8.0 on my home PC.


Regards,



-Original Message-
From: gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 2:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Decent Word / Excel Conversion: Not yet?


On December 12, 2002 11:30 am, Ed Wilts wrote:
> We need good conversion tools, that's all there is to it.  We need to 
> play in their world, not assume world domination by making them 
> change.

it may sound naive, but it's not.  how else can we expect people to stop
using 
proprietary formats?  wait for microsoft to adopt standars?  no.  social

change is the only way, and it starts with people like us.  if we
recieve a 
proprietary formatted file, open it in windows and re-save as an rtf or 
something... BUT then send them an email with a brief explanation as to
why 
(and more importantly how) they should save documents they intend to 
distribute in open formats.  it doesn't have to be technobabble, just 
something simple like: "i got your file, but it took me 20minutes to
open it 
since micros~1 has refused to adopt a standardised system.  if you're
going 
to send me files, please use a more universal format."

even my grandmother would understand that, and with simple instructions,

she'll send me a text file next time.

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Re: Custom kernel support

[Ben Russo]

On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:01, Warren Sypteras wrote:
> Folks;
> 
> I read that Red Hat no longer supports custom kernels.  I take that to
> mean any rebuilt kernel.  My quesiton is: What happens to customers that
> have to re-compile to add support for hardware?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Warren

I guess that is why RedHat provides their "certified" hardware
compatability lists.

Make sure the hardware you get is certified if you want to get RedHat
to provide support for it.

SUN/HP/Microsoft/IBM, they all do the same.

Of course my company pays me to be the Sr. UNIX SysAdmin, so when I tell
them to use Kingston Ram in an HP box because it costs 90% less they are
paying me to support it, not HP.   :-)

-Ben.



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Re: Total nOOb question: uninstalling software

[Ben Russo]

On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 11:27, Alex RENE wrote:
> Hi all... I know, it's REALLY a nOOb type of question but... How do you
> uninstall stuff you did not install by RPMs like from tar.gz and the
> likes ... I have WAY too many browsers installed on my machine, and I d
> like to get rid of a few other things too...
> 
> -- 
> Alex RENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Another thing you can do, 
it takes a long time, but it does work.

write a script that does the following
as root, I am not testing these commands,
so you might want to think about the gist of 
it and then rewrite it yourself.

mkdir /tmp/FILES
find / -type f > /tmp/FILES/filelist
cd /tmp/FILES
split --lines=50 filelist
rm filelist
for FILEBATCH in `find . -type f`
do
  for AFILE in `cat $FILEBATCH`
do
rpm -qf $AFILE | grep -v "is not owned by any package" >>
/tmp/FILES/not-owned-list.txt
done
done

Then when you are done you will have a list of the files that
are not owned by any RPMS.

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Re: Please help me with this kernel problem

[Ben Russo]

Does the box work with the stock RedHat SMP i586 kernels?
If so then you may be choosing a combination of config options
that doesn't work well together.

I have this problem myself quite a lot.  What I usually
do is load the /boot/config-* for the RedHat stock kernel
that works in make xconfig.  Then I just try a compiling
in a few things and removing a few things and saving the config
and then trying to boot off of that.  If it works then I 
save the kernel in grub and rebuild again, this time removing
a little more.

As far as the depmod warnings about Unresolved Symbols
If insmod loads them and they work without a problem don't worry
about it. (Unless it just really bothers you that you get warned)

On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 12:44, Søren Neigaard wrote:
> Posted once before, but nobody noticed it, so here goes again :)
> 
> I have an old IBM PC Server 520 with 2 P133 processors. I have tried
> to compile the kernel some times now, and without any luck.
> 
> When I run "make modules_install" and "make install" I get a LOT of
> these errors:
> 
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
>/lib/modules/2.4.18-14duke/kernel/drivers/scsi/qla1280.o
> depmod: xquad_portio
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-14duke/kernel/drivers/scsi/qlogicfas.o
> depmod: xquad_portio
> 
> Is this a problem?
> 
> When I booted the kernel last time, I got these messages (the rest
> flashed by before I had a look at it, if you need it please say so):
> 
> --
> mtrr: detected mtrr type: none
> CPU0: Intel Pentium 75-200 stepping 0c
> enabling ExtINT on CPU#0
> Leaving ESR disabled
> Booting processor 1/1 eip 2000
> APIC never delivered???
> APIC deliver error (4).
> Restoring NMT vector
> CPU #1 Not responding - cannot use it
> Booting processor 1/2 eip 2000
> APIC never delivered???
> APIC deliver error (4).
> Restoring NMT vector
> CPU #2 Not responding - cannot use it
> Error: only one processor found
> ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
> BIOS bug IO-APIC#0 ID2 is already used!...
> ... fixing up to 4. (tell your hw vendor)
> ... changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 4 ... ok
> --
> 
> That's it, that's where my machine stops booting. When the machine
> boots, the BIOS sees both CPUS!?
> 
> Please help, I don't know what to do now.
> 
> --
> Med venlig hilsen/Best regards,
>  Søren Neigaard mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>  "According to the latest official figures, 43% of all statistics are totally 
>worthless."
> 
> 
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Re: Problem with man pages

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Michael Tyrrell wrote:

> I am running Red Hat 8.0 If I try to read the man pages I get the
> garbage you see below. This problem is on all servers I install Red Hat
> on. I have this problem no matter how I access the server Xwindows or
> Telnet. I've also tried different terminal types. When I print the man
> page it looks just as bad. 
> 
> Any help would be appreciated Thanks.
> 
> NAME
>lp â send requests to an LPRng print service
> 
> SYNOPSIS
>lp [ âA ] [ âB ] [ âc ] [ âG ] [ âm ] [ âp ] [ âs ] [ âw ] [ âd
> dest ]
> [ âf formâame [ âd any ] ] [ âH specialâandling ]
> [ ân number ] [ âo option ] [ âP pageâist ]
> [ âq priorityâevel ] [ âS characterâet [ âd any ] ]
> [ âS printâheel [ ât title ]
> [ âT contentâype [ âr ] ] [ ây modeâist ]
> [ âX path ] [ âD debugâptions ]
> [ file...  ]

besides supplying the standard answer, can someone provide the *optimal*
contents for the file /etc/sysconfig/i18n in red hat 8.0?

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Re: Problem with man pages

[mklinke]

Michael,

Take a look at "man less" . The section on character sets and locale may be 
appropriate to your case since the man pages are displayed via the "less" 
program according to "man man".

I use RH 7.3 and I'm going to assume that 8.0 operates the same for this 
reply. If not, disregard this advice ..

Regards, Mike Klinke



On Thursday 12 December 2002 18:47, Michael Tyrrell wrote:
> I am running Red Hat 8.0 If I try to read the man pages I get the
> garbage you see below. This problem is on all servers I install Red Hat
> on. I have this problem no matter how I access the server Xwindows or
> Telnet. I've also tried different terminal types. When I print the man
> page it looks just as bad.
>
> Any help would be appreciated Thanks.
>
> NAME
>lp â send requests to an LPRng print service
>
> SYNOPSIS
>lp [ âA ] [ âB ] [ âc ] [ âG ] [ âm ] [ âp ] [ âs ] [ âw ] [ âd
> dest ]
> [ âf formâame [ âd any ] ] [ âH specialâandling ]
> [ ân number ] [ âo option ] [ âP pageâist ]
> [ âq priorityâevel ] [ âS characterâet [ âd any ] ]
> [ âS printâheel [ ât title ]
> [ âT contentâype [ âr ] ] [ ây modeâist ]
> [ âX path ] [ âD debugâptions ]
> [ file...  ]



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Re: File System Errors

[Emmanuel Seyman]

On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:00:54PM -0500, Ben Russo wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 01:04, Dale Satterfield wrote:
> 
> Maybe someone from RedHat could tell us all what the magic
> command line option for the rescue CD is to boot from the 
> rescue CD but *NOT* mount the filesystems?

I use the rescue CD which comes in the Red Hat Pro box
which you'll find on redhat.de's ftp site.
It allows you to boot, gives you the option of mounting
filesystems (NFS, ext2/3, vfat) and allows you to fsck away.
Worth every penny.

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Re: Decent Word / Excel Conversion: Not yet?

[gabriel]

On December 12, 2002 11:30 am, Ed Wilts wrote:
> We need good conversion tools, that's all there is to it.  We need to
> play in their world, not assume world domination by making them change.

it may sound naive, but it's not.  how else can we expect people to stop using 
proprietary formats?  wait for microsoft to adopt standars?  no.  social 
change is the only way, and it starts with people like us.  if we recieve a 
proprietary formatted file, open it in windows and re-save as an rtf or 
something... BUT then send them an email with a brief explanation as to why 
(and more importantly how) they should save documents they intend to 
distribute in open formats.  it doesn't have to be technobabble, just 
something simple like: "i got your file, but it took me 20minutes to open it 
since micros~1 has refused to adopt a standardised system.  if you're going 
to send me files, please use a more universal format."

even my grandmother would understand that, and with simple instructions, 
she'll send me a text file next time.

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Anyone familar with autoupdate?

[James Pifer]

I posted this message to the autoupdate list this morning, but I have 
not seen a single message come in from the list, including my own. Someone
on this list mentioned autoupdate, which is how I found out about it. Can 
anyone here give me a hand? Thanks, James
--
I'm trying to install autoupdate for the first time on Redhat 8.0. 
I think I have everything installed but when I try to run autodld
I get the following errors:
Can't locate DB_File.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at
/usr/sbin/autodld line 13.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/autodld line 13.

I installed the following files:
autoupdate-4.6.1-1.noarch.rpm
autoupdate-cfg-redhat-4.6.1-1.noarch.rpm
autoprovides-redhat-8.0.db 
(renamed to autoupdate.db and put in /var/spool/autoupdate)

I also ran these two commands and got no errors. 
# perl -e "DB_File"
# perl -e "FTP"

Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? 

Thanks,
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Re: Redhat 8.0 samba setup

[Samuel Flory]

Jeremiah Johnson wrote:


Ok, according to the rpm package GUI, the samba components are 
installed, but I have no clue on how to configure it to let me see my 
windows box on the network, and vice versa, if anyone could point me 
in the right direction, i'd be VERY happy.


A couple of more ways to connect to windows boxes.
-Gnome file manager (smb:)
-smbclient (acts like a ftp client)

As far as configuring samba shares try installing swat, or look at the 
samba docs in /usr/share/doc.




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Re: audio cd in red hat

[Ben Russo]

On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 03:12, greg wrote:
> Hi,
> I can't play music cds on my computer under RH8.  The Red Hat
> documentation points you towards a program in menu/sound&video/CD
> Player, but this is not in my menu.  I installed the complete package
> (everything), so it should be there really.  When I open up other
> programs to play the CD, such as KsCD, it starts to play (counter
> working) and the CD drive is working, but no sound.  In the KsCD
> program, I get a message No matching feedb entry found.
> 
> How do I play music cd's please.
> thanks Greg

Make sure that you have the audio cable on your CD-drive attached to the
sound card.  And make sure that your speakers are turned on and the
volume is turned up.  Also find the application in the start menu called
Kmixer or whatever it is that lets you adjust the "soft" volume controll
for your soundcard and make sure it is turned up.





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Re: Problem with man pages

[Rick Johnson]

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Hash: SHA1

Michael Tyrrell wrote:
| I am running Red Hat 8.0 If I try to read the man pages I get the
| garbage you see below. This problem is on all servers I install Red Hat
| on. I have this problem no matter how I access the server Xwindows or
| Telnet. I've also tried different terminal types. When I print the man
| page it looks just as bad.
|
| Any help would be appreciated Thanks.
|
| NAME
|lp â send requests to an LPRng print service
|
| SYNOPSIS
|lp [ âA ] [ âB ] [ âc ] [ âG ] [ âm ] [ âp ] [ âs ] [ âw ] [ âd
| dest ]
| [ âf formâame [ âd any ] ] [ âH specialâandling ]
| [ ân number ] [ âo option ] [ âP pageâist ]
| [ âq priorityâevel ] [ âS characterâet [ âd any ] ]
| [ âS printâheel [ ât title ]
| [ âT contentâype [ âr ] ] [ ây modeâist ]
| [ âX path ] [ âD debugâptions ]
| [ file...  ]


Quick fix:

LANG=C man 

Bigger fix:

Change the line in /etc/sysconfig/i18n:

LANG="en_US.UTF-8"

to

LANG="C"


Who knows why man doesn't recognize en_US.UTF-8 or why Red Hat
packaged i18n one way inadvertently breaking man in the process.

- -Rick
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Re: File System Errors

[Ben Russo]

On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 01:04, Dale Satterfield wrote:
> I have a box with RH 8.0 installed, and upgraded to kernel 
> 2.4.18-18.8.0smp. I now am getting an error message that an error was 
> found during the initial fsck, and it drops me into a shell. I tried 
> fsck ( complains about running e2fsck on a mounted system), and 
> fsck.ext3 ( with same complaint). The file system is ext3. I tried 
> linux rescue but that didn't work either. How do I get around this ? If 
> I just control-D to reboot, it hangs at the same place.

I had this problem, it being so rare (hundreds of Linux servers, 
happened once) that I didn't have a rescue floppy handy.
So I downloaded a Linux toolkit bootable floppy image from 
freshmeat.net and used that.  It worked.

However I'm sure there is a way to do it with the rescue CD's.
I mean every sys-admin I have ever talked to has had this 
problem at one time or another.

Maybe someone from RedHat could tell us all what the magic
command line option for the rescue CD is to boot from the 
rescue CD but *NOT* mount the filesystems?

Even when I boot to rescue and "ALT-F?" to the virtual terminal 
where the command prompt is I can't get the system to fdisk 
because the devices for /dev/hd? aren't created until the 
rescue boot process mounts them.

And then when they are mounted I can't unmount because 
the File systems are "busy"

I tried killing processes that were using the mounted disk
filesystems and then the rescue OS instance would exit
and reboot ARGHHH.




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Re: Redhat 8.0 Questions

[Joe Polk]

I'm confused. If you have static addresses, what do you want with DYNDNS?
Stock fw for RH is ipchains/iptables. Why, if you're already behind a NAT 
router do you want to turn on NAT? Maybe I'm confused about your router. You 
will make you're like MUCH simpler to let the router do NAT, give your RH 
machine a local IP and use the router as your gateway. Voila! Anything you 
want to server up from your RH box can be forwarded via the forwarding 
features of your D-Link. In other words your schedmatic would be as follows:

ISP <-> Cable Modem <-> D-Link <-> Switch serving all clients.

<>

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> I have a couple of questions that I would love to see if anyone can
> answer...Answer any or all of them...
>  
> Configuration:
> I'm Running Stock RH 8.0 (Fresh install) on an X86 system.  
> 
> (2) NIC cards one attached to hub with cable modem and D-Link Router,
>  other connected to switch and internal net. I have 2 seperate IPs 
> from my provider, one goes to the Router, the other to the RH box. 
> (68.x.x.10, 68.x.x.11) Then...I have the router and the RH box both 
> pluged back into a shared switch that serves the internal 
> network(192.168.100.*)
>  
> Here are the questions:
>  
> 1) First, I have NAT running on the router, but I want it on the 
> Linux box as well.  How do I start NAT on the RH box.  I'm running 
> the stock firewall...Lokkit I think. 2) I get lots of "Martian 
> Headers" which I believe is caused by the network setup, but I don't 
> know what I'm doing that is out of spec.  Every client has the 
> router as it's gateway; the router has a DHCP provided Gateway; the 
> RH box has a dhcp provided gateway and address. 3) On occasion, I 
> would proxy from the RH box via Squid (that is running on that 
> system) and configure the D-link router, this works most of the time,
>  but once in a while, when I do this, the switch or router would 
> lock up and I'd have to reset everything.  I thought that this might 
> be caused by some type of IP violation like, packets getting bounced 
> back and forth from the router to the RH box, or something...but I 
> don't know enough about networking to find out where I'm going 
> wrong. 4) How can I get RH to boot to text mode?  5) I have ddclient 
> 2.6.1 running on the system, but for some reason it's spamming my 
> DynDns provider.  It doesn't seem to be checking the cache file 
> before updating my provider.
>  
> Thanks for the help.
>  
> 
> Carl
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Re: crontab

[Ben Russo]

On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 21:18, Jianping Zhu wrote:
> ect/crontab
> 
> SHELL=/bin/bash
> PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> MAILTO=root
> HOME=/
> 
> # run-parts
> 01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly
> 02 4 * * * root run-oarts /etc/cron.daily
> 22 4 * * 0Hroot run-parts /etc/cron.weekly
> 42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly
> 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50 * * * * (echo""; date; echo"")>/dev/console
> -
> 
> I suppose the date will be print on sceen every 5 minute, but it did not.
> why?
> Thanks 
> 
Three possible reasons, 

one in the line for weekly, remove the "H" between
the "0" and the "root"

two, on the last line try */5 instead of 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50
and you missed 55 BTW.

three, try this command 

echo -ne "\n`date`\n\n" > /dev/console

instead of (echo""; date; echo"")>/dev/console

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Redhat Advanced Server 2.1 and Sendmail configuration?

[Justin M. Lokitz]

I have successfully installed Redhat AS2.1 on two
machines, however, I would like to use the
preinstalled version of Sendmail on one of the
machines to receive outside email. I read over some of
the forums out there and learned that Redhat's 7.1+
version of sendmail is pre-configured to inly listen
to local traffic, not network. I used
http://colalug.org/ml-archive/0105/msg00021.html to
configure it to listen to network request on port
25/SMTP, but it is still not working. Any suggestions?
I need this urgently? Thank you in advance

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Problem with man pages

[Michael Tyrrell]

I am running Red Hat 8.0 If I try to read the man pages I get the
garbage you see below. This problem is on all servers I install Red Hat
on. I have this problem no matter how I access the server Xwindows or
Telnet. I've also tried different terminal types. When I print the man
page it looks just as bad. 

Any help would be appreciated Thanks.

NAME
   lp â send requests to an LPRng print service

SYNOPSIS
   lp [ âA ] [ âB ] [ âc ] [ âG ] [ âm ] [ âp ] [ âs ] [ âw ] [ âd
dest ]
[ âf formâame [ âd any ] ] [ âH specialâandling ]
[ ân number ] [ âo option ] [ âP pageâist ]
[ âq priorityâevel ] [ âS characterâet [ âd any ] ]
[ âS printâheel [ ât title ]
[ âT contentâype [ âr ] ] [ ây modeâist ]
[ âX path ] [ âD debugâptions ]
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Re: backup script

[Ben Russo]

On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 21:11, Jianping Zhu wrote:
>  I have redhat 7.1 server.
>   Because i have several dictories need to be backup, I want to write a
>  script do it automatically  say every Satuerday a 2:00am. is there a way
>  to do that?


Check this out.
I use this on my machines to back up critical files.
Working it in with a weekly job that does an rpm -y on things and 
finding files that are "custom" to build a list to back up works too.

http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/



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Redhat 8.0 Questions

[Engstrom_Carl]

I have a couple of 
questions that I would love to see if anyone can answer...Answer any or all of 
them...
 
Configuration:
I'm Running Stock RH 
8.0 (Fresh install) on an X86 system.  
(2) NIC cards one 
attached to hub with cable modem and D-Link Router, other connected to switch 
and internal net.
I have 2 seperate 
IPs from my provider, one goes to the Router, the other to the RH box. 
(68.x.x.10, 68.x.x.11)
Then...I have the 
router and the RH box both pluged back into a shared switch that serves the 
internal network(192.168.100.*)
 
Here are the 
questions:
 
1) First, I have NAT 
running on the router, but I want it on the Linux box as well.  How do I 
start NAT on the RH box.  I'm running the stock firewall...Lokkit I 
think.
2) I get lots of 
"Martian Headers" which I believe is caused by the network setup, but I don't 
know what I'm doing that is out of spec.  Every client has the router as 
it's gateway; the router has a DHCP provided Gateway; the RH box has a dhcp 
provided gateway and address.
3) On occasion, I 
would proxy from the RH box via Squid (that is running on that system) and 
configure the D-link router, this works most of the time, but once in a while, 
when I do this, the switch or router would lock up and I'd have to reset 
everything.  I thought that this might be caused by some type of IP 
violation like, packets getting bounced back and forth from the router to the RH 
box, or something...but I don't know enough about networking to find out where 
I'm going wrong.
4) How can I get RH 
to boot to text mode?  
5) I have ddclient 
2.6.1 running on the system, but for some reason it's spamming my DynDns 
provider.  It doesn't seem to be checking the cache file before updating my 
provider.
 
Thanks for the 
help.
 
Carl  

[jkinz@rcn.com: Re: browser discrimination article]

[jkinz]

This URL: 
http://www.htmlhelp.com/feature/art2.htm

is the web site I was looking for. The title of the page is:
  
  "This page optimized for ..."
  - arguing with customers -


Excellent explanation of why you need to support ALL browsers on your web site.
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Custom kernel support

[Warren Sypteras]

Folks;

I read that Red Hat no longer supports custom kernels.  I take that to
mean any rebuilt kernel.  My quesiton is: What happens to customers that
have to re-compile to add support for hardware?

Thanks

Warren
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just a minor problem

[bbeanl1]

My Redhat 8.0 system seems to work fine in all the windows I open up in GNOME.
 The only problems is that it hangs and I have to reboot if I go into the 
preferences window (the "preferences://" page).  Anybody have any idea what's 
wrong?  I was getting the same problem earlier with just browsing for files 
but it was fixed by enabling my floppy disk controller (didn't have a drive 
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Re: Red hat free download vs. Advanced server

[Ski Dawg]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 18:16, Periyasamy, Raj wrote:
> Hello Experts,
> What is the key difference between the Red hat free download and Red hat
> Advanced Server 2.1. Can the free download version bee a full functional
> server ?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Raj

For a starter comparison, check out
http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/features/rhl_compare.html

It does an initial comparison of RH8 personal, RH8 professional, and RH
Advanced Server

-- 
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Re: Red hat free download vs. Advanced server

[Joseph A Nagy Jr]

On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 12:16, Periyasamy, Raj wrote:
> Hello Experts,
> What is the key difference between the Red hat free download and Red hat
> Advanced Server 2.1. Can the free download version bee a full functional
> server ?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Raj
> 
> 
> 

Yes, it can. I'm currently running 4 websites off my box (RedHat 7.2),
with plans for a 5th web site to go up using PHP, MySQL, Perl, and
Apache.

I will also be offering (soon) web site hosting in addition to web
design services.
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