Re: [RCSE] JR 10x vs. 8103

[mikel]

Rob Skiba wrote:

> experience with these tell me if one suits soaring better than the
> other?  I have flown the 10x in RC Jets before and gliders but have no
> experience with the 8103 in a glider.  Does the 8103 have flight modes?
> I know it now has digital trims, but I am wondering about the mixing...

Both radios are capable of running conventional 6 servo thermal ships. 
The 8103 will be much easier to program since the glider settings
already have the standard mixes that you need built in.  With the 10X,
you will have to use some of the programmable mixers to get some of the
presets and possibly some mixes.

If by flight modes, you mean launch, thermal, landing, then yes, the
8103 does have flight modes. It's also a little easier on the wallet.
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Re: [RCSE] disclaimer

[Dick Barker]

Adam,
Why not tell them about the nice micro class Red Herring. I airbrushed mine
tele-tubby pink and have been flying it for well over a year when ever I
want to relax from flying high performance discus launch UpLinks. :-)
--
Dick Barker
Seattle, WA
- The Old Fart Glider Flyer -

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>Herring, 34"(860mm) span 4-5oz (110-140g) flying weight, very
>manuverable for both light slope lift and thermalling.
>
>http://www.tgworks.com
...
>Adam Weston
>Seattle, WA
>
>tom broeski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/soaring/?start=43912
>> They also are not yet in production.  The add was premature and will
>probably cost them in adverse PR.
...

>> "J.Teisan" wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks to everyone who has called or emailed me about the Razor
>> >  advertised by FMA.
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Re: [RCSE] Glider High Atlitude Balloon Launch

[Aerofoam]

That is about $200 for the balloon and gas.  So why not go
> to 100K.  However if the glider is falling for X miles before it runs
> into air dense enough to regain flight and become controlable, will it
> break up from G forces on it from tumbling and spinning


I was contacted about this project a year ago and have designed a plane for
the task. At this point, I am the primary pilot and have had
many discussions with the other perpetrators, er, uh, guys that are
involved with this project.
I am not at liberty to give all the details because there is another party
trying to set a record that we are trying to set first.
What I can tell you is this:
The biggest problem seems to be the radio gear. Stock stuff wont
work. The front end gets overloaded by the video transmission.
This means all the control gear has to be custom built on a frequency
that is farther from the video transmission frequency.
It also probably will mean using digital signals to stamp type micro
processors on board.
You need special clearance for the airspace and it is hard to get,
because a competing govt. agency has control of it and they don't
want anyone else beating them to a record..
The ionazation layer at 70,000 ft. is a ral radio problem too, but not
insurmountable.
The plane flying extremely fast in almost no air will respond more or
less like a plane flying much slower in thicker air, but the margin
between stall and VNE becomes very small so the plane needs to
be carefully designed. I have chosen the extreme low wing loading
route as the solution. Is it the right solution? I dont know, but I am
confident it will survive rather than break up.
Temperature is a minor problem, you need to take all the grease out
of the servos or any other moving part so it wont freeze when it gets
to 70 below zero.
I was going to use EPP but determined that it would explode on the way up
from the pressure loss.
The plane will be around 60 miles down wind when it gets released
so it needs a good cruise speed to get home.
This is all I can say at this time without talking to the guys that are
heading up the project. It was supposed to happen last summer,
but they still dont have the radio stuff ironed out.
Maybe next summer? (fingers crossed)

 Mark Mech
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[RCSE] Champion HLG Sold

[RICHSHILL]

Sorry guys, the Simprop Champion was sold.

Richard Shilling
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[RCSE] Late messages

[mikel]

If anyone notices some messages that seem to have appeared from several
days ago, it's because I just approved them.

I was away since Wed. at Cape Cod for some good slope soaring. Most of
the winds were from the south through west direction with a period of
dreaded north winds.  While the winds were not always perfect, we were
able to fly at the Seascape every day.
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Re: [RCSE] Six By Eight

[Karlton Spindle]

GRET JOB!  This must be some sort of new record that many LSF 5s in ONE
weekend!

Karlton

Marc Gellart wrote:
> 
> Well, as of Saturday evening, six fliers had finished their eight hour slope
> flights for LSF Level 5 at Brookville Dam, IN.  On Friday, Rob
> Glover(Probably the 100th LSF 5), Brian Smith and Steve Siebenaler reached
> the 8 hour goal, Steve doing it with the help of a 1,000,000 CP Q-Beam light
> and landing nearly an hour after darkness fell.  Today, Mike Remus, Bruce
> Herider, and myself got the job done by about 5:30 or so, it was great air
> pretty much the whole two days.  On Friday, Don Harris acted as overseeer to
> the group and today, Brian along with Rob and Steve were out there making
> sure that our needs were taken care of.  See everyone at Pumpkin Fly tomorow
> if it does not rain(good chance).
> 
> Marc Gellart, Lima, OH
> 
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[RCSE] Fall Soaring Fest

[Karlton Spindle]

I have to ask the group who may have TESTED the STRESS loads of my Milan
fuse at the Fall Soaring Event.  Sam G. is putting the plane together for me
and just told me about a few little things people did to it.  I had the kit
at the fall soaring fest for display it had just come in from Germany and
had NO DAMAGE.  I showed the kit Friday, Saturday and Put it out Sunday in
the all the the it was in the BOX.  I then got the plane to Sam and LOW and
BEHOLD the FUSE was SNAPPED IN HALF and the WINGS WERE MESSED WITH!

With all the trade shows and events I have done I can say things do happen
to display units but 99.9% of the time people at least say they are sorry.
You do not just snap a fuse in half looking at a kit.

I would like to the RESPONSIBLE PARTY to at least tell me that they damaged
the plane.  I was looking forward to flying it but now it is trashed.

Smooth Thermals,
Karlton Spindle
MrMPX
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[RCSE] The Diamant is Dead

[Nathan & Marni Woods]

I had the great misfortune of stuffing my Diamant into the hillside
yesterday.

I was cruising around just fine, enjoying it's beautiful and stable flight.
The only problem I had was that it kept wanting to climb in the excellent
lift at Yorba last night.  So I'm nearly spec'd out after practicing my
thermal turns and decide to scrub some altitude by doing high banking turns.

At about 800 feet, my nose weight must have shifted.

The Diamant started doing these huge hammerhead type oscillations.  Down 600
feet, up 500 feet, stall.  Repeat.

There was no way to control it, I gave full up elevator while it plunged,
full down elevator even before it rose up into that awful climb.  I tried
dropping flaps/butterfly.  Nothing worked.  I had full aileron control, so I
tried to corkscrew the plane towards the hill (I had been heading away until
then).  That worked, but I still had no control of elevator.

Desperate, I tried to time the oscillations to bring me into the hill while
climbing.  Didn't work.  The hollow molded Diamant went straight in at over
100 mph.  It was making that cool "fast" sound on the plunge down.

The damage is less than I feared, but un-repairable as far as I'm concerned.
My new Don Richmond wing rod held!
The fuse split along the seams at the nose.  The tailboom has a semicircle
crack around the circumference.  The horizontal stabs have a carbon capped
spruce spar inside that split down the length.  The pin that went into that
spar, through the tail, to the other stab bent.  All this is minor and can
be repaired, and I have a spare set of stabs.  But the molded right wing
suffered a "buckle' at the break in the dihedral on the outboard section.  I
don't know how the wing servo's faired.  The fuse servos seem okay.  The
canopy just pretty scratched up went it went completely into the soil.

So what do I do?  The fuse can be repaired, though I have no interest in
doing it.  The tail can be rebuilt with the replacement parts I have on
hand.  But what do I do about the wing?  I had this plane for sale for $450
or best offer with all servos and battery.  I'm now willing to let it go for
whatever you think is fair.  Please make an offer.

You can see it B.C. (Before Crash) at
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Court/5147/

I'll update the site later this weekend of photos of the damage.  Images can
be emailed upon request.

Nathan  Woods
Temple Hill Slope Squadron
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[RCSE] Non-R/C interference worst on which R/C channels?

[General Jubilation T, Cornpone]

> Announcing the 33rd Annual SOAR for FUN on scenic Mount
> Knobbly in West Virginia ...
> DUE TO LOCAL PAGER ACTIVITY, USE OF CH 23 & 24
> NOT RECOMMENDED!! ...

 Our family uses several R/C channels.  I have been getting random
glitches on channel 23, none on the others.

At first, I thought I maght have an intermittent electrical problem with
my RX, or ground-banged wiring, or even something with the TX.

But when I took the plane and TX into a metal building and
palpated the combo, so to speak: no glitches.

There are a half-dozen new RF towers on a nearby hilltop.
Who knows what-all they might be used for.  An older Bell
Atlantic microwave relay dish tower (several dishes) has not
caused any problems.

I'm going to buy replacement crystals for my Channel 23
equipment.

Question:  Has there been experience showing some channels
to be relatively free of non-R/C interference, nationwide? Most
problems discussed on RCSE have been due to inadvertent
simultaneous use of the same channel.

THE General


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[RCSE] Glider High Atlitude Balloon Launch

[cliff]

With Ham radio operators the latest rage is to launch a balloon with a
TV camera in it to altitudes in the neighborhood of 100K feet. 
Normally these flights last about 1 1/2 hrs. and can end up from 50 to
200 miles down range.
I've been thinking that it'd be much more interesting to put a TV
camera and transmitter in a glider and fly it down.  I'm sure this is
not an original idea. I recall reading on the Web sometime ago somebody
was thinking of doing the same.  Never heard anything more.
To find out if it is worth while looking into further I was wondering
if those of you who are into gliders more than I could offer some
advice on the following.
1# What would be the highest altitude a RC model glider would be
controlable?  The weight limit, without getting into some pretty heavy
paper work and regulations with the FAA is about 8 lbs for everything
at launch.  (The FAA has some concerns about downing a 747 if one were
to run into the glider.  They seem to have little concern for the
damage to the glider!) 
#2 What is the best type of glider to use, one with a fuselage, or a
flying wing?  Seems to me that a flying wing would be the most
efficient.  Batteries, TV camera, servo's, radio gear. etc., could all
be built into the wing for less weight and more batteries. 
#3 Above 35K feet, for all practical purposes at model speeds, your
flying in a vacuum.  However it costs the same to go to 100K as it does
to say 20K.  That is about $200 for the balloon and gas.  So why not go
to 100K.  However if the glider is falling for X miles before it runs
into air dense enough to regain flight and become controlable, will it
break up from G forces on it from tumbling and spinning?
#4 One last question.  I have some Kevlar biaxial sleeves that needs a
binder that will withstand 400*F.  Epoxy begins to fail at that
temperature.  Does anyone know of a binder that will withstand 400*F.

Thanks for the patience people.  Any input would be appreciated.

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Re:[RCSE] GENTLE LADY SITE?

[bmulder]

> Last springtime, I saw a homepage devoted to GENTLE LADY's tons of
pics and 
> stuff. Does anyone still remember the site? If the proprieter of that
site is 
> still around- and if there are any other GENTLE LADY GLIDER sites.
> I'd appreciate it immensly.
> 
> Ever so thankfull Dean

Tha'd be me.

Go to the menu at the bottom of my site. Highlight "Gentle Lady" and
behold. It has pictures, stories, building tips, links, etcetera,
etcetera, etcetera.

To all you flying fools out there-- Send me pictures of your Gentle
Lady and I'll put it in my "Scrapbook". To all those who have donated
to the site-- thank you!!


Cheers,
Bill Mulder

P.S. Dean- If you have questions, feel free to ask.
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[RCSE] Interference

[perry]

Hey guys, I was at the field last Wednesday and was getting hit on channels
41,42,44, and 48.  I live in a remote area of the Mojave desert with
precious little civilization anywhere close.  I was wondering what is really
out there that will shoot down our modles.  What is this pager stuff I keep
hearing about?

There is a military base near by.  Edwards is about 17 miles from me and
they do all kinds of crazy crap over there.  You have the NASA boys, the AF
guys, and many contractors doing god knows what over there?  Are they exempt
from FCC regulations? Or are we still sharing our frequencies with various
industries?

Regards, Perry
































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[RCSE] Re: 2.5 meter Sierra

[ranandlynn]

Mike,
If you're refering to the MFA High Sierra(78",R.E.) A buddy of mine had
one. The wing seemed pretty strong and handled a standard high start
pretty well. It thermalled o.k. Cool fuselage profile, but an awful
draggy airfoil! Looks like it came off of a Sailaire!
Randy

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[RCSE] Wing planform and handling

[Martin Simons]

Thanks for the various addresses mentioning planform and design software.

Without wanting to do too much self advertisement, I will mention that a
program for designing a wing in plan, using actual wind tunnel test data
for the section concerned, was published by me in Herk Stokely's 'Soartech
Number 0ne' in 1983, or about then. In those days I used a hand held TI 51
programmable calculator. The system worked, with some examples given in
Soartech 2. I don't know if any of the currently available programs use the
same methods but it would be relatively easy for anyone to re-write my TI
51 program to make it usable in a modern spreadsheet. (No, I haven't done
it myself.)

The essential principles remain for all of us - it is most necessary to
avoid the outer parts of the wing stalling before the inner panels, but we
want also to taper the wing to achieve at least an approximately elliptical
lift distribution.

The traditional use of taper and washout to achieve this at low (soaring)
airspeeds, is not desirable since it produces a bad situation at high
airspeeds. The outer wing, washed out, begins to 'lift' downwards as the
airspeed rises. In old time full scale sailplanes, at speeds above about 70
knots, you can see the wing tips beginning to bend down, indicating
reversed loading and high drag, spoiling the fast glide. Exactly the same
happens with models if the wing is washed out, and even more so if the
wing, under load at high speeds, begins to twist appreciably.

The required control of the stall spanwise is achieved best through a
combination of careful planform design and WING SECTION CHANGE FROM ROOT TO
TIP. You need to choose the tip section with a later stall than the root
and, preferably, a higher available maximum lift coefficient. This is not
very easy when the tip Re number is always lower than the root, but it can
be done from the wind tunnel results. Increasing the camber slightly  and
thinning the section towarwds the tips is usual, with attention to a gentle
stall character.

Then you can keep the desired elliptical load throughout the whole range of
airspeeds, and not have the downward bending tips. This is how full scale
sailplanes are designed now.

This is dealt with in general terms in Chapter 6 of my Model Aircraft
Aerodynamics book (and was there twenty years back the 1978 first edition).


The required design methods are given in the old NACA Report No 865,
"Method for Calculating Wing Characteristics by Lifting-Line Theory Ussing
Nonlinear Section Lift Data." This was published in 1946, all done by slide
rule in those days, and is still readily available through the USTIS. To
make it suitable for modern computing should not be too difficult. Any
volunteers?

The effects of small amounts of sweep bacxk or forward are usually not
enough to matter, but for large sweep angles in eihter direction, more
advanced design techniques, panle methods rather than lifting line theory,
are necessary and I can't commit myself on these.

Martin

>From Martin and Jean Simons,

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[RCSE] How do you thin epoxy?

[twaung]

hi there,
  I was just wondering how you thin epoxy?
Thankscan you tell I'm new to this? =)

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[RCSE] Renagade Slope Ship For Sale RTF

[orbitone]

Selling a very nice all  
Composite Wing Charlie Richardson Renagade 60" Racer this type of plane
won the Big Event Back East just awhile back these planes are very
Fast!! I fly Thermal Duration Contest so I am not into this kinda of
stuff the Plane comes with slip on nose cone just add your servos and
fly!!! price is 225.00 plus shipping or please pick up and save
shipping cost has Bolt on Stab/Rudder... If you want to buy it with
servos which are 555 Airtronics in the wing all Metal Gear and 141
Airtronic in the Fuse for the Stab lets talk...!! thanks for Reading ..
Mike M
Price with all the servos is 275.00 RTF
its RG-15 Wing very Nice!!



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[RCSE] Knoxville/Alcoa Tennessee Slope Site??

[joegull]

Does anyone know of a slope site in the Knoxville/Alcoa Tennessee area?
 If so please email me

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[RCSE] Re: Gap Seal Tape

[ranandlynn]

I've been using gap seal tape on my Kyosho Soarus "Sports"(aileron
version)It did away with my flutter problems. I operate this sailplane
way above Vne!!

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[RCSE] Re: Plane Geometry Glider Design Software

[honest11]

Kevin McKiou (designer of the Cuda rocket glider) was kind enough to
mention the glider design software "Plane. Geometry" by Blaine Rawdon
in his recent post. I believe that anyone wanting to learn more about
this versatile design software may find the following links/addresses
helpful

Informational webpage
http://www.rc-soar.com/hardsoft/planegeo.htm


 "Plane Geometry" software
 by Envision Design
 4207 Exultant Drive
 Rancho Palos Verdes, CA   90275
 USA
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[RCSE] Illustration of Zagi spar system available now!

[Tord]

Just send me an email and I'll send that the Spar system illustration and
the Tord Hook ditto! Free of charge!

Tord,
Sweden

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Re: [RCSE] disclaimer

[awagner]

(Shameless Advertising...)

Need a small flying wing that really flies??? Check out the Red
Herring, 34"(860mm) span 4-5oz (110-140g) flying weight, very
manuverable for both light slope lift and thermalling.

http://www.tgworks.com

Thermals,

RED
--
Adam Weston
Seattle, WA

tom broeski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/soaring/?start=43912
> They also are not yet in production.  The add was premature and will
probably cost them in adverse PR.  They are having some problems
getting it to fly well and are adjusting the molds.  Zagi's fly.
> T
> 
> "J.Teisan" wrote:
> 
> > Thanks to everyone who has called or emailed me about the Razor
being
> > advertised by FMA.
> >
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[RCSE] Req: Email for Andy Lennon

[honest11]

I would be grateful to learn if author Andy Lennon is online and what
his email address is. Thanks for any leads!
Robert Steinhaus
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[RCSE] Fazer fuselage.

[Michael Williams]

A friend has "trashed" his Fazer 2M fuselage.  He's looking for a spare
fuse to get airborne again.  Anyone have a spare one to part with?

Thanks
Mike
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[RCSE] "Goblins and Thermals in Cincinatti"

[GordySoar]

Cold, damp and over cast with thermals (except for when I launched of course) 
was the norm today at Cincy's Holloween contest. 

The SOAR guys are a formidable team and getting better.  Got to meet some 
really excellent sticks.
Course Huntsville Chain Gang led this time by Steve S, bullied there way into 
the trophy circle with points and good flying again.

Lots of Emeralds, some Milleniums, Hera and other Euromoldies.  Even a molded 
Psyko competed, the winning ship was an old molded Eagle.

RES was in swing too but they don't let me play at that :-)

The format was this weird Triathlon thing that forces you to take a laptop to 
the flight line to figure out what to do :-) They explained it and mostly 
what I got was 2's are better than all 3's and some 5's and 4's are better 
than 5's and some 7's and 6s are better than 7's and most 9's but that 10 was 
univerally good :-)

It didn't rain until the contest ended, the raffle prizes were incredible 
with a huge donation of servos and expensive airlplane kits from Karlton of 
Mulitplex!  Big thanks there even though I didn't win anything :-(

Someone else will post the winners, but the jist is make sure you make it 
there next year!

Gordy
Home for a week
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[RCSE] Further Adventures of the Ther-Mongo

[Tom H.Nagel]

You may recall I finally got tired of waiting for some kit builder
to market an honest to Gordy 2 meter floamy thermal flying wing.  Terry
Tiesan, Mark Mech and MAD Aircraft all talked about doing it.  Nobody did.
So I bought a Mongo Jr. and built it to fly thermal.

Nobody at BASH Enterprises could tell me much about flying a Jr. off
a high start or winch.  Those folks are all hard-wired slopers.  B2 thought
it might work.

So far, results are mixed.  It will thermal, and I have thermaled it
high enough to lose orientation and wound up diving back to the field minus
one winglet.  But if you slow down too much in a thermal turn, the
Ther-mongo will slip into a death spiral.  Luckily, it bounces, unlike my
late 2 meter Klingberg Wing.  And with a 30 feet of altitude or so, you can
pull out of the death spiral.

High start launches are no problem at all.  The Mongo Jr. tracks
well and launches fairly high.  Winch launches are tougher for some reason,
and high speed launches have resulted in some  elevon flutter, from the
servo linkage I think.

Here's what I did initially:  I inlaid a 1/4" carbon fiber tube
(picked up at Toledo a few years ago as a freebie) in a groove in the bottom
of the wing, just an inch or two aft of the recommended CG.  I inlaid it
into the bottom of the wing because it is flat at that point, and easier to
inlay than in the top.

I pitched the Coroplast winglets and used thin styrofoam sheet from
the restaurant carryout boxes to make up winglets.  

I installed the full sized JR servos as far forward and as far
inboard as I could, laying them down flat, and running thin Sullivan cable
pushrods in an arc from the servo wheel a spot about 1/3 of the way out on
the elevon span.  And I used Kibrough servo savers on the servos, just in
case.  The buried Sullivan cables were to reduce  drag across the wing top.
(But I screwed up by angling the emerging cables and servo horns at right
angles to the elevon hinge line, instead of parallel to the center line.
Extra drag.  Darn.)

The thin styrofoam winglets didn't work out.  The stuff was OK on my
Zagis, but Mongo Jr. is bigger, the winglets are bigger, and at speed they
would flutter.  I went to 1/4" styrofoam sheet from the bottom of chicken
trays.  The guys  at the club thought I had renamed the plane "Tyson."
The 1/4" styro winglets worked fine but felt draggy.  I did the math:  1/4"
x 2 x 12" tall = 6 square inches of frontal area.  

I am now using winglets made of 1/16th balsa sheet, covered with
monokote, in a "boot-shaped" profile rather than the truncated right
triangle that the coroplast winglets featured.  I like this setup.

The curved Sullivan cables did not work out either.  They did reduce
drag I suppose, but there was a lot of slop in the linkage.  It was like
flying a plane with the servo connections made out of old garter belts.  You
had to fly with a lot of advance planning.  And I got some  elevon flutter
in high wind launches and heavy winch launches.



I moved the towhook back about 3/8" from my initial guess.  (If you
build one of these, make sure to provide for a moveable tow hook.)
I broke down and added a couple of ounces of nose weight, to get the
CG about 11 to 11 1/4 back from the nose.
I added trip strips to the top of the airfoil.  This is an on-going
experiment.

 I got my hands on some Harley Michaelis' RDS couplers and two weeks
ago  we had he first rainy weekend for a long time; I used the opportunity
to retrofit the Ther-Mongo with RDS  servo linkages for even less drag, and
a much more positive control linkage. 

When I tore into the Mongo to do the RDS installation I found out
that a big part of the elevon slop was due to our old friend the inverse
cube law  (or as Joe Wurts has called it, the "scale effect.").  Big planes
look like they are flying slower, but really they are flying faster.  And if
you increase the dimensions x 2, you triple the overall weight.  This is why
ants can lift several times their own weight and I have trouble getting  the
winch battery out of the car.

In comparison to the 48" Zagis and Boomerangs,, the bigger, heavier
Mongo Jr was doing serious internal damage to itself on rough landings.  The
servos had smashed themselves a whole bunch of additional room inside their
styrofoam pockets.  The servos were flopping  around in there looser than an
idle thought in Dan Quayle's brain.

Tightening up the servo pockets and retrofitting the Ther-Mongo with
RDS linkages got rid of a whole bunch of the elevon slop.  Any slop left is
due to my building skills which are second to Nunn.   

That's Sam Nunn, the Senator from Tennessee, who beat hands down at
a paper airplane contest some years ago.  But I digress.

I was able to retro-fit the RDS linkages without un-hinging the
elevons!  The original elevon hinge was 3M brand Blenderm

[RCSE] HLG Kit for Sale

[RICHSHILL]

For Sale - Simprop Champion HLG.  Cleaning out the garage and I'll never get 
to build this one.  Foam wings with balsa covering, nice fiberglass fuse with 
slip-on nose cone.  Needs new leading edge stock - the stuff in the kit is 
warped and the wing tip balsa is too heavy.  I thought the dihedral was too 
skimpy and consulted with Blaine Rawdon whose eyeball and spreadsheet agreed 
- you get the new dihedral recommendations.  This is what I'd call a 
middle-level HLG.  You won't win the IHGL with it but it's a nice kit.  
$50.00 including UPS.

Richard Shilling 
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[RCSE] Calypso Contest

[Erik Wikran]

Does anybody have information on the Calypso Contest or a web adress
that have information, pictures etc?
-- 
Regards
Erik Wikran
Tromso, Norway
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[RCSE] "The rest of the story"

[Jim and Mary Jacobson]

Well it's another wife's story.My husband's busiest time of the year is
the fall..sometimes work requires 7 days a week for about 3 months during
this time so obviously not much time for flying.  As luck would have it ..he
was able to take this weekend off and Murphy's law kicked up on Friday when
he started not feeling too well...But he kind of willed himself well as a
few guys were getting together in Whittaker, CA to slope race.  Jim got his
Nova ready, did all the last minute tuning up you folks do before flying.
Woke up Saturday morning still not feeling too well but willing to drive the
3 hours one way to Whittaker to be able to fly and, of course, as you know
"flying always makes one feel better."
He called me an hour into his drive and was doing ok.  Around 6 in the
evening i heard from himhe was heading home.  I asked all the
questions...which included "How'd the flying go?"...and the response was
more of Murphy's law:  He flew all of 35 seconds when "something happened"
and the plane took a dive into the brush of the Whittaker area which is
more like an unforgiving jungle.  He then spent the next 3 hours climbing in
the brambles and the thicket (at times higher them himself)...to no avail.
Sofor SIX hours of drivingTHREE hours of climbing around in the
thicket, 25 minutes of me  pulling out thorns with tweezers upon his return
home ..he flew just 35 seconds and then lost a plane with cervos and
reciever to boot.  Now most sane people would say...".this just isn't worth
it." But not my husband...this morning he is already planning his strategy
of what plane to fly when and where and is putting the finishing touches on
a plane for our two daughters to start learning on. (Passing on the madness
to the next generation?)  You RC fliers are a different breed altogether.
I'm not completely sure of your sanity but your tenacity speaks volumes.
Sign me as an amazed wife.
MJ

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