Re: [RCSE] flex
In a message dated 04/16/2000 8:50:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I want to know where is this 150 to 200 lbs > pull comes from and how that pull is transfered to the boom. Have anyone > loaded up his plane at home with sand bags adding up to a 150 to 200 lbs > wings loading? How is this flexing shifting the tails to a negative > decalage ? . Now, how a lousy flap servo with a max of 60 oz torque > won't allow the flaps to go in reflex at such proportional to their > surface forces acting upon them ?. How about the ailerons ?. I found it interesting, only as an illustration, to load two pounds of lead into an F3B eagle, and set the plane on the ground, resting on its nose, tail vertical, and take hold of the stabs and move the plane around it various axis. It definitely gives you an appreciation of the work those little elevator and rudder servos have to do to move the plane around. Its not too hard to imagine the tail boom flexing on launch or in a hard speed turn (bank, yank, unbank.) Also, it wasn't the tail boom flexing that impressed me much on a two man F3J tow, but the V-tail getting blown off certainly got my attention. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Indoor in South Jersey
The SJSF is having their last (really) winter indoor event on April 26 in Mount Laurel, NJ at 6:00 PM. We had such good turnout last time we're having one more. Indoor electrics, rubber duration, "butterflys", Peck ROGs, Duration from the balcony, etc $1.00 entry to pay for the use of the church. email me for directions Look for our ECEZagi Fest in our web site events page after monday: www.bethpage.net/9602/SJSF/
[RCSE] 50Mhz. duckie for JR 8103??
Anyone know of a quality 50Mhz. rubber duck type of antenna and adapter for the 8103? TIA * Len Revelle[EMAIL PROTECTED] N9IJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] AMA 60055 http://user.mc.net/~lenrev * RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] JR R610M
I just bought one from my local shop for $67.95 + $4.59 tax ($72.53). Might be worth the time to scout the local shops for one (if thats an option) and save a couple of bucks. -Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Mr. Khan: > Just received my JR, R610M Rx from Horizon Hobby. It is a tiny thing and it > controls six (6) servos on a bench test. I won't know how it will perform > for a while, two to three weeks.\ > > Cost..$74.99 + S/H > > Thats one source at least !! > > Virg Barker > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #1099--JR R610M
Mr. Khan: Just received my JR, R610M Rx from Horizon Hobby. It is a tiny thing and it controls six (6) servos on a bench test. I won't know how it will perform for a while, two to three weeks.\ Cost..$74.99 + S/H Thats one source at least !! Virg Barker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [RCSE] Receiver Source
- Original Message - From: "terrytrimble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gary S. Baldwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Receiver Source > What is the range on the JR 610M? No info on the Horizon web site just the > weight and dimensions. > Later, > Terry Trimble > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Soaring Tools the EPP info website > http://www.geocities.com/soaringtools/ > Encinitas, California > - Original Message - > From: "Gary S. Baldwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 6:26 PM > Subject: RE: [RCSE] Receiver Source > > > > At 03:27 PM 4/16/00 -0700, you wrote: > > >for what it's worth, I'm pretty sure the new JR 610M is at least AS small > as > > >the Berg if not smaller. Just got one and it is about the cutest little > > >thing I've seen. 6channels, end loading. Any idea of the case and > caseless > > >weights of the Berg for comparison? > > > > > >Lift, > > >Scobie. > > > > > > > > Scobie, > > > > I just weighed them both (case on, I'm not ready to remove the cases just > > yet) and the Berg is .65 oz and the JR 610 is .445 oz on my digital > scales. > > Hope that helps. > > > > Gary Baldwin > > Tallahassee, FL > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] URLS/Icare and Tom Copp
Could anyone give me the URL for both Tom Copps(cant remember his co. name) and Icare Sailplanes Thanks Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] flex
I do not want to sound like Gordy, but enough is enough. I am going to wake up Bernouli, Mollier, Stokes and couple math experts from their graves and put them to work. I want to know where is this 150 to 200 lbs pull comes from and how that pull is transfered to the boom. Have anyone loaded up his plane at home with sand bags adding up to a 150 to 200 lbs wings loading? How is this flexing shifting the tails to a negative decalage ? . Now, how a lousy flap servo with a max of 60 oz torque won't allow the flaps to go in reflex at such proportional to their surface forces acting upon them ?. How about the ailerons ?. I bet you Daryl is a human too, and according to health practices a human can only push or hold a force no higher than 60 lbs for no more than few seconds. And that is after dinner. That load is at the tow hook and is distributed to the entire fuse. If the tow hook will be behind Daryl's hand I can see the flex occuring. And that will determine a positive decalage. But I do not think that Daryl had master that yet. But by letting go , launching the plane that is , the fuse now rests on the wings at one end and on the stabs at the other. Daryl's got the pedal to the metal and the tow hook is pulling on that fuse like crazy. The wings and tails are opposing to Daryl's and the winch work. The fuse bows and as it does the tails goes negative and the wings goes positive. The tails pushes the plane to the ground and the wings are stalling. Oh so nice. Lousy shallow launch follow by a stall. So where the reinforcing be on the fuse to make it stiff ? Ya, ya from the nose to the toes- that is from the joining rod or wing attachement point to the boom end. Hey champ do I have to add anything ? Mike PS. Fredy Sage: keep doing what you doing so far. I love your work. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Los Banos combat contest
Who won the Los Banos combat contest yesterday at Los Banos Creek Reservoir Los Banos , California.? Terry Trimble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Soaring Tools the EPP info website http://www.geocities.com/soaringtools/ Encinitas, California RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Airtronics PCM Receiver for Sale 8ch
Selling a Airtronics PCM Receiver 8 channel comes with ch 18 xtal like new very little use price is 75.00 includeing shipping in the USA this rx came out of a Vision Box email me if you want a nice receiver thanks Mike.M RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Receiver Source
At 03:27 PM 4/16/00 -0700, you wrote: >for what it's worth, I'm pretty sure the new JR 610M is at least AS small as >the Berg if not smaller. Just got one and it is about the cutest little >thing I've seen. 6channels, end loading. Any idea of the case and caseless >weights of the Berg for comparison? > >Lift, >Scobie. > > Scobie, I just weighed them both (case on, I'm not ready to remove the cases just yet) and the Berg is .65 oz and the JR 610 is .445 oz on my digital scales. Hope that helps. Gary Baldwin Tallahassee, FL RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Canopy Source?
Hi Gang, I just got off the phone with one of my really good old flying buddies and he has offered to give me a slightly damaged 1/3.75 Scale ASW27 if I will promise to make it fly again. This is one of the kits from Krause. The only broken piece I cannot fix myself is the canopy. Does anybody out there know where I might be able to acquire one of these? Any help on this will be greatly appreciated. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] For Sale!!!
Great Planes Spirit Elite 2 Meter Sailplane http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=307478209 Thank you Jeb --|-- \0/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] D.P.'s Spot Dorker Launch
>>About the Same of What a Hera F3J >>Ship launches like Mike... it isn't the plane that rotates... it's the setup. ANY airplane will rotate like what you see Daryl do. (Given, some will pull harder than others, but they can ALL rotate hard) You could give Daryl any full house bird at an Sc2 or similar contest, and he would be able to set it up to rotate and launch hard, similar to his SchpotDorker. (Again, not all airplanes will launch high, even if setup well... some just don't do it. But rotation can be dialed in on any full house airplane) Thermals, Eric Farmer -Original Message- From: Mike Morjoseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: soaring exchange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, April 16, 2000 5:00 PM Subject: [RCSE] D.P.'s Spot Dorker Launch >I must say that in all this talk on launching that it is true on what the >Spot Dorker launches like I have seen it Launch at many Contest When Daryl >Throws it almost rotates straight up.. About the Same of What a Hera F3J >Ship launches like.. they both get very high launches.. I hope when I get >mine up and running been on order for over a month that it also does the >same at the end of the tow.. >Mike .M Sunny So Cal... > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] 50mah cells
I've got 48 new 50mah cells. Perfect for slow flyers. These were going to be used in an industrial application. Cells are new with cut off tabs. EH Yost sells them for $2. Your cost is $1.75 ea, or buy them all and they will be $1.50 each. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Misc for sale
I've got a few items for sale: Dave Brown flight simulator. Includes install disk, "hangar" disk and "joystick" (transmitter box w/ 2 gymbals) -- $50 Soaring Products "Thermic Sniffler" (Vario) Works great - With original Lafayette receiver on 49.845 Real RC soaring nostalgia piece $125 Multiplex spoilers NIB 14.5" -- $30 ($44.35 advertised price) Airtornics Oly II kit - NIB - Never opened - never dented. $65 Hobbico Accu-Cycle $45 Items don't include shipping. Mark Howard 303 278-7519 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
