Re: [RCSE] Directions to Los Banos
Richard , if the wind is not blowing hit the Sunset beach campgrounds on the coast only 80 miles away.sunset beach has a RC glider port fun place to fly beautiful campground pines tree at the beach. Later, Terry Trimble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Soaring Tools the EPP info website http://www.geocities.com/soaringtools/ Encinitas, California - Original Message - From: "Richard Bothell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 12:34 PM Subject: [RCSE] Directions to Los Banos > I just got the directions to Los Banos. Thanks to those who replyed. Rick > Bothell, Prescott Valley, AZ > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Aircraft design books???
Frank wrote: > > Besides "Aerodynamic design of Radioguided Sailplanes" by E. Gale and "Model > Airplane Aerodynamics" by M Simmons, what other design books are available? > > What are their publication dates and ISBN #s?? Where can they be > obtained??? > > Thanks > Frank > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frank, you may want to read Wing Theory by Robert T Jones, Priceton University Press, Aerodynamics of Wings and Bodies by Holt Ashley and Marten Landahl Dover Publications Inc New York and for much easier understanding please read Thermal Soaring by George Stringwell RM Books a division of Chart Hobby Distributor LTD., England. You may want to avoid the use of any existing softwares prepared for the purpose, because it will lock your imagination and design freedom. Before establishing a design criteria, as many individuals are trying to do, take time and establish the scope of your intent. IF YOU KNOW what you want to accomplish the rest is much more easy. Hope the above will help. If you need any help, pls E mail me direct. Mike RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Ferrite Chokes for long servo leads?
Setting up a plane with long servo leads, want to use ferrite beads on leads. What end of the lead (servo or receiver) do I use the the chokes on? Thanks, Erich Merkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 360-354-0578 Cell: 360-961-1522 Lynden, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Ed's post :-)
In a message dated 6/14/00 9:21:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Not regular columinist. >> Hey I take a dump every day! What does he mean "not regular'? Good thing he can't get on the RCSE :-) Gordy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] RCSD
I first received the RCSD when it was published by Jim Gray. At that time there were no photographs, only content. If you want pretty pictures, look up the venders web sites. Its value has been in its content and its unifying activities with the R/C Soaring community. The digest and the Slates have done more to integrate our small little niche in the R/C community than any other organizations or magazines. The digest is by us and for us. Enough said. Tom Ernst RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] hot wire power supply???
Do you have an Astroflight Charger? My 110D will go into test mode if you hold the button down on power up. Then you can just dial in the precise current you want. It makes a great safe adjustable how wire supply. Paul At 08:25 PM 6/14/00 -0400, you wrote: >I am building a hot wire set up and need to know which is better: > >1. a variac (3-5amp) connected to an isolated step down transformer 110-24 >volts 10 amp >or >2. same isolated transformer with a dimmer switch on the 110 side. > >If neither, then what is the best way to do it?? I want plenty of power to >be able to cut anything from a 20 in to a 75 in bow. > >Please include any and all assistance in the construction of the power >supply that can be offered. I am looking both for an inexpensive and >durable setup THAT IS SAFE to operate. Any comments withh be helpful. > >I am also looking for suppliers of the required parts. Radio Shack does >have the above transformer but it is ~$55. The more I save the more I will >have to spend on foam and new sailplanes etc. > >Thanks >Frank > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" >and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] hot wire power supply???
Try this electronic surplus company in Dayton Ohio. They have a good selection most everything you need. http://www.meci.com/ Hope this helps. Bob Massmann - Original Message - From: "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "soaring group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:25 PM Subject: [RCSE] hot wire power supply??? > I am building a hot wire set up and need to know which is better: > > 1. a variac (3-5amp) connected to an isolated step down transformer 110-24 > volts 10 amp > or > 2. same isolated transformer with a dimmer switch on the 110 side. > > If neither, then what is the best way to do it?? I want plenty of power to > be able to cut anything from a 20 in to a 75 in bow. > > Please include any and all assistance in the construction of the power > supply that can be offered. I am looking both for an inexpensive and > durable setup THAT IS SAFE to operate. Any comments withh be helpful. > > I am also looking for suppliers of the required parts. Radio Shack does > have the above transformer but it is ~$55. The more I save the more I will > have to spend on foam and new sailplanes etc. > > Thanks > Frank > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Heat Shrink Wrapping for Batteries
Clear or colored packing tape works great and it shrinks nicely with a heat gun. It doesn't get any thinner or cheaper than that! It's what I use for the battery packs in my micro BD's. Dave Wenzlick Mesa AZ http://www.users.uswest.net/~slickraft/slickraft2.htm RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Aircraft design books???
Besides "Aerodynamic design of Radioguided Sailplanes" by E. Gale and "Model Airplane Aerodynamics" by M Simmons, what other design books are available? What are their publication dates and ISBN #s?? Where can they be obtained??? Thanks Frank RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] hot wire power supply???
I am building a hot wire set up and need to know which is better: 1. a variac (3-5amp) connected to an isolated step down transformer 110-24 volts 10 amp or 2. same isolated transformer with a dimmer switch on the 110 side. If neither, then what is the best way to do it?? I want plenty of power to be able to cut anything from a 20 in to a 75 in bow. Please include any and all assistance in the construction of the power supply that can be offered. I am looking both for an inexpensive and durable setup THAT IS SAFE to operate. Any comments withh be helpful. I am also looking for suppliers of the required parts. Radio Shack does have the above transformer but it is ~$55. The more I save the more I will have to spend on foam and new sailplanes etc. Thanks Frank RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Heat Shrink Wrapping for Batteries
Go to your local electronics supply store and get some 3M heat shrink tubing of the appropriate size (I think I used 3/4" on my 110s) and color. Around here (SoCal), $6 buys about 4 feet of it. - Original Message - From: "Riebesehl, George (NP-IS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 10:45 AM Subject: [RCSE] Heat Shrink Wrapping for Batteries > Looking for some lightweight heat shrink tubing/wrapping for my homemade HL > receiver packs. Electrical tape is heavy & comes undone. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] 8103 Rudd/Elev programming from Sherman Knight
One BIG advantage to me when mixing rudder to the aileron stick is the fact that the rudder stick remains active. As a right hander ( and an amateur) the first second or so of launch finds my strong hand transitioning from the throw to the right stick. A loose toss can be immediately hairy (or most Hobie launches I've seen) so I prefer having the ability of having the rudder available to the left thumb initially. * Len Revelle[EMAIL PROTECTED] N9IJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] AMA 60055 http://user.mc.net/~lenrev * - Original Message - From: "Bill Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 08:04 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] 8103 Rudd/Elev programming from Sherman Knight > This is an interesting process, but why? > > To me, it doesn't seem to matter whether you operate the rudder from the aileron channel or "redirect" the aileron stick output to the rudder. Either way seems as complicated or as simple. Admittedly, you may lose some of the programming features using the rudder from the ail channel, but how much sophisticated mixing is needed for an RES ship? At most, I'd see where you might mix a bit of up-elevator with the spoilers. > > So what am I missing? With an RES plane, when you think "rudder", you are really thinking "aileron", from a functional standpoint, but that is not too confusing an issue to complicate the programming. > > The one situation where the "redirect the aileron stick output to the rudder channel" method may be needed is the case where you have a polyhedral ship with a V-tail. You would have to redirect the aileron stick output to the ruddervator, as I don't think the V-tail mix works any other way except mixing elevator&rudder. I have a Chrysalis HLG in this configuration coming up. > > Interesting discussion... > > --Bill > > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:15:27 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > There were several questions posted to the exchange concerning two channel > programming for the 8103. All the postings plugged the rudder into the aiel > slot on the receiver so flight could be performed from the right stick. We > all used this method with older non mixable radios. To use this method on a > programmable radio actually complicates the learning curve of the programmer > and eliminates other dedicated mixes and available programming in the radio. > > I try to set up the programming on all my airplanes so that the programming > is as similar as possible from plane to plane. I'm not talking about values > of a mix but using the best mix for the function. As an example, If I start > using the programming method discussed above to put elevator and rudder on > the right stick I'm going to have to find another method of programming when > I graduate to a plane with two aileron servos. (ie no ail slot to plug the > rudder into, oops) Learning two different programming languages is always > more difficult than one. Heaven forbid trying to make changes from one plane > to another in the field without your template handy. > > To simplify your learning curve, use just one programming method for > everything. The instruction sheet I published is for the most complicated > plane possible. Use that as your starting point. Less complicated planes > are just a sub set of the more complicated instructions. What's this all > mean? Try the following: > > Plug elevator into elevator and rudder into rudder. Now dual rates, end > points, and various mixes are properly named. This eliminates a lot of > confusion right off the bat. > Use the dedicated mix Ail to Rud. This places the rudder on the right > stick. The left stick is still the primary rudder input and remains active. > The rudder trim is still on the left. This is the same condition that you > have on a six servo plane. Once in the mix, hold the aileron stick all the > way to one side or the other. Hit the + or - buttons until the rudder moves > in the right direction and the correct amount. Select "ON" for switch type. > If the rudder doesn't move the same amount left and right use the t. adj > settings for rudder until they are the same. Your done. > > Now other dedicated rudder functions are available such as extra rudder in > launch or landing mode. Not only that, but this is the same method you use > when you graduate to an aileron ship. > > You may think the other method is simpler (ie rudder plugged into Aileron) > It may be at first but it creates problems down the road. Now you have to > remember that dual rates for rudder is actually aileron. Same with end > points. Don't touch the differential settings, now your rudder isn't even. > It continues on and on. > > All ten model memory slots are full on both of my 8103's. If I used > different methods of progra
Re: [RCSE] Heat Shrink Wrapping for Batteries
I haven't done this, but would any of the heat shrink coverings like super monokote do the job. - Original Message - From: "Riebesehl, George (NP-IS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 10:45 AM Subject: [RCSE] Heat Shrink Wrapping for Batteries > Looking for some lightweight heat shrink tubing/wrapping for my homemade HL > receiver packs. Electrical tape is heavy & comes undone. > Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > George Riebesehl > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] 8103 'FreeFlight' mode???
At 10:08 AM 6/14/00, Jeff Winder wrote: >Anyone know if there is a way to program a switch on the 8103 to 'freeze' >the current control deflections? With PCM mode, enable fail hold. You probably don't put PCM rx'es in a HLG though... Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of Chicago SOAR club ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at http://www.mcs.net/~bacuslab/soaring.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Which HLG????
My husband and his friend Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] make a kit called the ADVANTAGE. I am pretty sure it has everything you are looking for around that price. They would be happy to send you some pictures and all the information. Sorry they don't have a web sight. Rose -Original Message- From: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: soaring group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 6:02 PM Subject: [RCSE] Which HLG >My father is looking to get into HLG but hasn't flown for many, many years >so I would qualify him as a beginner with his current skill. I would like >to spend about $100 +/- $50 but would like it to have foam wings and a >fiberglass fuse. He had read a review about the bludartar and fell in love >with it but I think it is beyond his skill and my budget. > >What would you suggest? > >Thanks in advanced!!! >Frank > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Foam Cutting Questions....
There are lots of plans and descriptions on the web for wing cutters. There does not seem to be much info on basic foam preperation. 1)How do you square up the foam to make wing blanks? 2)Do you cut Dihedral angle before or after cutting the Airfoil? 3)What do you use for template material? Paul RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] EMERALDS
I just spoke to Skip a day ago and he mentioned that he has some in stock, which is unusual. Red top, black bottom (I think) and the other is White top, Black bottom. These are the latest 'iterations' with lightened stabs, and rudder, 'standard' clevis rudder connections and improved minor things. I believe he said the price will be going up soon so better not wait to order. The Emerald is a very 'predictable' flying TD ship. Easy to get used to, its airfoil is the 7037 which works light lift well and has good landing characteristics. Not the best at coming home from those way down wind hunts without ballast, but all in all, a good choice for contest or fun flying. The E is pretty durable too. (Don't forget to add your leading edge anti fuse crush post. You don't have to have it but it helps avoid a crack sometimes) Don't expect a 100 page instruction book with the kit, its not there. If you have to have one, order a Kestral from Sal a great kit with lots of instructions). Gordy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Emerald
In a message dated 6/14/00 2:17:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Is there a web site where I might view pics of and specs on the Emerald? Who carries the kit? Keith >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Skip Miller) is the Emerald man. It looks like a Saphire. G RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] 8103 Rudd/Elev programming from Sherman Knight
This is an interesting process, but why? To me, it doesn't seem to matter whether you operate the rudder from the aileron channel or "redirect" the aileron stick output to the rudder. Either way seems as complicated or as simple. Admittedly, you may lose some of the programming features using the rudder from the ail channel, but how much sophisticated mixing is needed for an RES ship? At most, I'd see where you might mix a bit of up-elevator with the spoilers. So what am I missing? With an RES plane, when you think "rudder", you are really thinking "aileron", from a functional standpoint, but that is not too confusing an issue to complicate the programming. The one situation where the "redirect the aileron stick output to the rudder channel" method may be needed is the case where you have a polyhedral ship with a V-tail. You would have to redirect the aileron stick output to the ruddervator, as I don't think the V-tail mix works any other way except mixing elevator&rudder. I have a Chrysalis HLG in this configuration coming up. Interesting discussion... --Bill On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:15:27 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There were several questions posted to the exchange concerning two channel programming for the 8103. All the postings plugged the rudder into the aiel slot on the receiver so flight could be performed from the right stick. We all used this method with older non mixable radios. To use this method on a programmable radio actually complicates the learning curve of the programmer and eliminates other dedicated mixes and available programming in the radio. I try to set up the programming on all my airplanes so that the programming is as similar as possible from plane to plane. I'm not talking about values of a mix but using the best mix for the function. As an example, If I start using the programming method discussed above to put elevator and rudder on the right stick I'm going to have to find another method of programming when I graduate to a plane with two aileron servos. (ie no ail slot to plug the rudder into, oops) Learning two different programming languages is always more difficult than one. Heaven forbid trying to make changes from one plane to another in the field without your template handy. To simplify your learning curve, use just one programming method for everything. The instruction sheet I published is for the most complicated plane possible. Use that as your starting point. Less complicated planes are just a sub set of the more complicated instructions. What's this all mean? Try the following: Plug elevator into elevator and rudder into rudder. Now dual rates, end points, and various mixes are properly named. This eliminates a lot of confusion right off the bat. Use the dedicated mix Ail to Rud. This places the rudder on the right stick. The left stick is still the primary rudder input and remains active. The rudder trim is still on the left. This is the same condition that you have on a six servo plane. Once in the mix, hold the aileron stick all the way to one side or the other. Hit the + or - buttons until the rudder moves in the right direction and the correct amount. Select "ON" for switch type. If the rudder doesn't move the same amount left and right use the t. adj settings for rudder until they are the same. Your done. Now other dedicated rudder functions are available such as extra rudder in launch or landing mode. Not only that, but this is the same method you use when you graduate to an aileron ship. You may think the other method is simpler (ie rudder plugged into Aileron) It may be at first but it creates problems down the road. Now you have to remember that dual rates for rudder is actually aileron. Same with end points. Don't touch the differential settings, now your rudder isn't even. It continues on and on. All ten model memory slots are full on both of my 8103's. If I used different methods of programming for each model, I would never be able to make quick programming changes in the field. Learn one method, keep it simple and programming becomes second nature. Sherman Knight RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Emerald Rudder
Emerald Pilots: After many flights the rudder to pushrod connection point has loosened. Looks to be a simple bent wire inserted into a wood block just rearward of the rudder post. The wire will not come out but there is A LOT of slop. Any ideas? Thanks, Todd Brieschke Dundee, MI RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: [SFRC] Re: SFRC V1 #675 READ THIS
Dudes and Dudettes About 6 weeks ago I posted a warning to be careful of the JR610 reciever because of problems I and my friends were experiencing. Promptly got kicked in the teeth. Horizon seemed very concerned and even sent me a mailing label to return my recievers. I held off for about a week and called and was told that they had plenty to test and that no solution had been found as of yet. Another week and there was still no solution. We are waiting for word from the parent co. on a solution to the problem. Last week much to my surprise I was told that THERE WAS NO PROBLEM, there fore no need for a solution, don't bother sending them in. THIS IS ABSOLUTE CRAP My recievers have been sent back to my distributer for exchange for HiTech 555's which are rock solid. I have owned and defended JR products for years and have never experienced anything like this. In the past I have recieved excellent service from the service dept. and was shocked and appalled that a statement like that was even made. I have worked in service and sales for 30 years and have only heard crap like that from low level con artists. To hear it from a company that I had absolute faith in was really a dissapointment. As I talk to people in the know I'm starting to find out that isn't the only JR product in recent history that will have to "bandaided" up to be acceptable. Fortunately this episode did not cost me to much, damage to a new handlaunch, several rounds lost in an important hlg contest, and several hundred dollars and 6 weeks of my time. I'm glad I "DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM" if I did it would have been Hellish expensive. Come on guys, GET REAL HERE. Ready for the flames Denny Maize RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: [RCSE] John Roe
Hmmm, I have an eMail off asking about buying a "3-R" tape. Does he answer the phone? --Bill On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:24:09 -0400 Tom Sheehy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can tell you that sending him a fax with your credit card number doesn't seem to work either. -- Tom - Original Message - From: Terry Mickle To: RCSE Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 10:06 PM Subject: [RCSE] John Roe I have sent 10 or so e-mails to John Roe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I haven't gotten a reply. If anyone knows how to get in touch with him please let me know or tell him to contact me. Thanks, -- Terry Mickle Newsletter Editor Southern Oregon Soaring Society SOSS: www.soaroregon.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] picojet combat vs 'normal'?
There's a new EPP version and I have complete kits in stock. Tom Robert Scott wrote: > Are you guys just referring to a picojet put together for combat or is there > a different model of Picojet kit now? > > -r > > T&G 32 Mount View Dr. Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]