[RCSE] Reports on NSP Softik-Acro

2000-09-11 Thread Daniel A. Leon

Has anyone built and flown the NSP Softik-Acro?  Looks like a nice
novice-level aileron electric plane for smaller fields, etc.  I would
like to hear about any opinions/impressions.

Dan Leon

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RE: [RCSE] Mr. NiCd?

2000-09-11 Thread glide

I ordered from them a couple times this year.  Great service, great
products.  What more can I say?  I know, I would buy from them again.

Aloha to all on RCSE,

Al Battad - WH6VE
AMA #506981

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Hi All, need to know what experiences folks have had with Batteries of
America. Quality, service, etc. Please post to the exchange, I'm sure others
would like to know. TIA, Rich
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Re: [RCSE] HLG battery life questions

2000-09-11 Thread Tom Watson

Discharge rate of 125 MA.  Looking at my records, for some reason these
packs were not tested when new, but that was only maybe three months ago
anyway.

My 110s tested at 115-120 MAh with the same discharge current.  Recognizing
that the tester could be giving an erroneous reading with so high a
discharge rate, I would still expect the real-world life of the 80s to
approach better than 50 perrcent of the 110s, if not higher.

If I can ascertain whether NiMH cells can be charged with the same equipment
as NiCADs, I'll go that route, since it seems that much more capacity is
available with less weight.  I'm running an experiment now along those
lines.  Film at 11.

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> So to properly test an 80 mah you need a discharge current of 80 ma.  Not
> many testers will go this low.  Typically at 5C (400ma) discharge you
could
> see a 30% decrease from Rated Capacity.
>
> I agree the 35-43 mah does seem low, as long as your discharge current was
> not too terribly high.
>


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Re: [RCSE] passaj

2000-09-11 Thread James V. Bacus

At 08:05 PM 9/11/2000, Rick Brown and Jill Wiest wrote:
>Anybody on the list that can pronounce 'PASSAJ'

Pass a J?

Sorry, couldn't resist...  8-)


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Re: [RCSE] HLG battery life questions

2000-09-11 Thread Steven Meyer

At 10:10 PM 9/10/00 -0700, Tom Watson wrote:
>...  Seems like my "80 MAh" packs are delivering 35-43 MAh...in other 
>words, they

Remember Standard Capacity NiCd ratings use a discharge of 1C, temp of 23 
deg C, and an end-of-discharge voltage (EODV) of 0.9 volts.  EODV may be 
different on each tester, a lot of them use 1.0 v, because realistically 
the discharge curve is quite steep at 0.9v.

So to properly test an 80 mah you need a discharge current of 80 ma.  Not 
many testers will go this low.  Typically at 5C (400ma) discharge you could 
see a 30% decrease from Rated Capacity.

I agree the 35-43 mah does seem low, as long as your discharge current was 
not too terribly high.

The best method is to test your cells when new.  Note the capacity then 
test them periodically.  Large capacity packs I can typically expect 120% - 
150% above Rated Capacity, but my smaller HLG cells 90% - 100% is 
good.  That is because the HLG cells are being discharged at a 3C rate.

Just to make things a little cloudy...
After all what capacity rating are we talking about anyway.  According to 
the GE NiCd Application Handbook the following are different capacity 
ratings for a cell.

1. Standard Capacity
2. Rated Capacity
3. Actual Capacity
4. Retained Capacity
5. Available Capacity
6. Dischargeable Capacity



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[RCSE] Re: AMD Cyclone - any good???

2000-09-11 Thread Brad Willoughby

>Anyone flown/seen the AMD Cyclone wingeron ship...
>Seems to be "too good" at the advertised price...
>Bill Gillis
>Reno, NV

Bill,

I thought the same thing, so I bought one.  I've only stared to 'build' it
(if you can call it that since it's almost done).

Here's my impressions on the kit:

Good:

1) The wings and empenage are great!  Very solid, pre-sheeted wings with
nice leading and trailing edges and nice wing tips.  Also, they have
pre-installed metal mounts for the wing rod and servo pins.  There reaaly is
nothing to do here but cover or paint and then slide them on the wing rod.
Nice.

2) The service was very good.  A little strange trying to order via the
website.  I ended up just emailing them.  But once they had my order, I
received the plane in just over a week (8 days).  That's from Hong Kong to
San Francisco, CA.  Nice again.

3) The hardward (except the wing rod - see below) is well put together.  It
comes with well machined servo attachments including set screws for the
servo pins and an allen wrench.

OK:

1) The bag looks a big cheesy: bright (and I mean _bright_) pink and purple.
It seems like it'll protect the plane, however, and that's all that really
matters, right? ;)  I mean, nobody at the field will have anything mean to
say when you blind them with your plane's bag, right?

2) The fuselage seems a bit weak.  It is pretty to look at, but it looks
like it'll need some CF reinforcement.

Not-so-good:

1) The instructions leave a lot to be desired.  If you've ever built a plane
or two before, though, you shouldn't have too much of a problem.

2) The wing rod is weak.  I've heard of other pilots who bent theirs in high
winds.

Overall, I'm pretty impressed with the kit.  With a few mods, I should have
a nice flying wingeron ship.  For around $120 including shipping from Hong
Kong for a plane that's nearly pre-built, I'd say that's hard to beat.

Cheers!
Brad
Redwood City, CA

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Re: [RCSE] Mr. NiCd?

2000-09-11 Thread David A. Enete

>Hi All, need to know what experiences folks have had with Batteries of
>America. Quality, service, etc. Please post to the exchange, I'm sure others
>would like to know. TIA, Rich

Fast service, and a nice product.  I've ordered about 4 times from 
them and have always gotten exactly what I was hoping to get in a 
timely manner.

They make just about anything you can think of, and will give you any 
configuration that you can dream up.  Describe what you want, and 
they'll tell you what they have that fits the bill.

The quality of the cell assembly looks very good (haven't had to open 
a pack up, but could see through a couple of packs that had clear 
shrinkwrap).  Connectors are solid, and clean.  The only thing that I 
can think of that I would have changed on any of my orders was to 
have a longer lead on the 150mAh rx packs that I received.  Other rx 
packs seemed to have longer leads (who knows why?).

- David

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Re: [RCSE] where to put the

2000-09-11 Thread YK Chan

I have used copper tape to the outer panel and wrap around down the
cross section area of the junction to the center piece. A position
matching second wrap will begin at the opposite cross section area to
the center panel, the tape will end short to the fuselage, or if you
will, run all the way into the fuse near the structure center.

Remember to place a small piece of copper wool (not steel wool) at the
junction of the two wrap around to take up the possible gap and remove
intermittent contact. An intermittent electrical contact will 'phase'
modulate the in coming signal before it enters the Rx, the result is
servo chattering. Any other gentle but high resilient metal can also
be use reliably.

Once again, the dipole will compose of two 39 inches of wire/strip
mounted opposite on one axis. The measurement will be reference from
the divergent point at the center fuselage. Cut short to wing tip when
39 inches is reached. Do not run all the way to the tip beyond 39
inches. If you have a CF wing skin, we need one tape on top panel and
one opposite down the bottom panel, all tape length will be 39 inches,
top and bottom.

Let me know if I have addressed your question.

YK


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> I have used the antenna as suggested in a two piece wing with one
piece of
> tape in one and the other end of the dipole in the other.
>
> But what is your suggestion in a three piece wing in which the
center
> section is 50 inches and the two tips each 35?  This makes the
center
> section only twenty five inches long in either direction if the Rx
is in the
> middle.
>
> Thankyou.
>
> Rick
>
>

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Re: [RCSE] RE: Delay -- Move RCSE to another list server?

2000-09-11 Thread David A. Enete

After dealing with the commercial-ridden service from eGroups, the 
Zagi list moved (somewhat officially) over to the Topica service.

Nice and lean interface, and not too many ads for now.

http://www.topica.com/


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[RCSE] RE: (spoiler return springs)

2000-09-11 Thread David A. Enete

>I like connecting spoilers to servo with fine metal
>cable pushrods (Sullivan 507 VERY FLEXIBLE).
>That way the servo opens =and= closes the spoilers.
>Less fiddling, and they stay closed when inverted.

I used this method on my Olympic-II.  I had already installed the 
"dial cord" method using tubing that was the exact same as the sheath 
for 507 cable.  I just bought a pack of Sullivan 507 cables (later 
buying a big pack of it for about $8 or so to use in handlaunch 
gliders), and pushed it through the pipes.

I can't give the exact URL to the original document where I saw this 
idea, but I think it came from the Charles River RC club's kit 
modification page for the Oly-II.  I used brass tubing on the ends of 
the cables and passed both through a servo connector.  Works fine, 
and is very positive on opening and closing.  Just make sure that 
both spoiler control arms are the same distance from the hinge and 
line up with your cable guides.

- David

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[RCSE] Hold the Chiles please

2000-09-11 Thread Steven Meyer

I just installed Eudora 5.0  An interesting feature is that Eudora will 
rate a message for offensive content.

1 Chile = "Might be offensive"
2 Chiles = "Probably offensive"
3 Chiles = "Message is on fire"

Now I'll be able to spot those flaming messages before I even open 
them.  So hold the indigestion please.  :-)


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[RCSE] Help Ventus 2C

2000-09-11 Thread Charles J. Auerbach

I have a Ventus 2C 150" molded Scale Glider.   Each wing half has 
pockets for 3 servos, Flap, aileron, aileron,
  The wing has 2 breaks at the tip so the trailing edge has hinged 
sections for a flap, aileron, aileron and a 4.5"  moveable section at 
the tip. The question is " How do I drive that tip section.

That tip section is at an angle, so that taping will cause 
strain as the sections spread when deflected and versa when raised.

Any help will be appreciated.

Chuck Auerbach
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Re: [RCSE] Fiberglass Tail Boom - Genie

2000-09-11 Thread Harley Michaelis

Burke. . .glad you asked! I do not know what you will have if you put on a
separate boom without the curved fuselage, but it won't look like a GENIE,
not likely perform like one or otherwise stand up to expectations. 

Your concern about weight is misplaced, as this larger than typical ship
needs it to perform best. 10-11 oz. per sq. ft of wing loading is easily
handled. That means 90-100 oz. all up weight, which at the lighter figure
equates to a wing loading of around 64 oz. on a ship with say 900 sq. in of
area. Too, there is a significant scale effect related to the larger span
and area involved. It simply handles the weight better and needs it to not
flounder around like some big floater. This baby can move. It is not
delicate.

The segment of the fuselage behind the wing where you would attach a boom
is subject to breakage in landings where the tail whips around and catches
hard. Very recently, and in my last personal GENIE, my 18th, I have placed
8" long ply doublers in the area of the rear former by the wing TE, for
this very reason. One broke there and that avoids the problem. Using the
skinny, rectangular cross section ply box, that begins the fuselage
construction, these doublers are easy to incorporate. Doing so with a round
tube to get the same level of reinforcement at that point is not feasible.
Ready for glassing the GENIE fuselage, with fin, canopy, towhook blocking,
stab pushrod, stab bellcrank, pivot tube for the main wire, etc. typically
weighs 12-1/2 oz. Glassing/painting adds around 2 oz. This is no flimsy
structure that is going to get compression breaks or shatter on typical
hard landings. I've buried these noses 15" into the ground without the
fuselage breaking. Yes, I know that fiberglas shells can come in at 6-8 oz.
which sounds light, but there are things to add and they are not 58 inches
long and will not stand a gorilla grip behind the wing. The GENIE is a much
larger airframe than most contemporary ones.  I have made all the possible
mistakes already in developing the fuselage over near 50 personal Jousters
and Genies. Trust me. There is no need for you to repeat them thinking you
will improve things.

Further, and this can be confirmed by reviewing the material on Mike
Selig's Opus in the NSP catalog, there are aerodynamic reasons for the
droop snoot and the curvature of the fuselage that would be defeated going
to another profile. 

You would also pay heck trying to secure the 5/16" balsa fin in the end of
the round tube.  As is, it fits firmly between the interior of the flat
slab sides. On rare occasion, I have snapped a fuselage at the front of the
fin. The way the fuselage is made, this is repairable. You need only remove
the ply doublers in the area, the CF between them and the slab sides and
put in new doublers and CF. With balsa added over this again, glassed over
and repainted, the repair is hardly noticeable. 

This a tall fin and rudder. You could expect any light tube to snap at the
front of the fin with little provocation. No disparagement is meant toward
friend John's boom construction. For this application, however, the
standard fuselage as detailed in the plans and website, is the way to go. 

BTW, one intended "GENIE" was built with a separate boom and a V-tail. It
is now in the hands of its 3rd owner. It is not a GENIE. 

 Stick to the script, huh?

Others reading this who would like a look at the GENIE, go to
http://www.proptwisters.org/jouster2/ and click on link #3. 

--
> From: Burke Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [RCSE] Fiberglass Tail Boom - Genie
> Date: Monday, September 11, 2000 6:43 AM
> 
> I ran across some neat techniques by a guy named John O'Sullivan for
forming
> a rolled fuselage tail boom.  I am in the process of building a Genie
> (designed by Harley Michaelis), and I thought this might be neat to try
on
> this fuselage.  I really like the design of the droopy nose that the
Genie
> fuselage has, but would like to try to save some weight in the tail boom.
> So what I was thinking of doing is building a wood fuselage from just
behind
> the trailing edge of the wing, to the nose.  This would allow me to keep
the
> droopy nose design and then go with a rolled fiberglass tail boom from
just
> behind the TE of the wing to the tail.
> 
> I would think this would be lighter, to save some nose weight.  My
biggest
> question is about the strength of the joint between the wood (front)
portion
> of the fuse and the tail cone.  Is this a high stress area of the
fuselage?
> It seems that most of the fiberglass fuselages I have seen break have
broken
> back in the tail boom just in from of the fin at about the 1/3 to 1/2
span
> point from the tail to the TE of the wing.  This would seem to indicate
the
> joint I am worried about probably does not get that much stress, and
should
> be fairly easily reinforced.
> 
> I know there have been gliders designed in the past that use a method
> similar to this, but I have nev

[RCSE] Help-Ventus 2c

2000-09-11 Thread Charles J. Auerbach

I have a Ventus 2C 150" molded Scale Glider.   Each wing half 
has pockets for 3 servos, Flap, aileron, aileron,
  The wing has 2 breaks at the tip so the trailing edge has hinged 
sections for a flap, aileron, aileron and a 4.5"  moveable section at 
the tip. The question is " How do I drive that tip section.

That tip section is at an angle, so that taping will cause 
strain as the sections spread when deflected and versa when raised.

Any help will be appreciated.

Chuck Auerbach
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Re: [RCSE] Apogee .pdf prints

2000-09-11 Thread Matt Lydon

Lots of places, John. Kinko's might do it, but if not, go to a printing
shop. Lot's of them are set up to do desktop publishing, including handling
pdf's, etc.

Matt
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> Hi,
> Does anyone know where I could get full size prints from the Apogee
> plans on the CharlesRiver site.  My printer is an old dot matrix that
> doesn't print the .pdf files to scale.  I have the right printer driver,
> etc.
> Would anyone be willing to sell prints of these plans?  Does anyone
> work at, or know of a copy center that can print .pdf files?
>
> John
>
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[RCSE] Fwd: Saturday Sept 16th. invitation to fly at the Junior Air Races and Hobby Fair at North Valley Regional Sports Complex

2000-09-11 Thread NOKAJ

 



As most of you are aware, we are having our first annual Air Race Slope Bash
on Sept 16, 2000.  This is a fun fly event that will take place at the Red
Rock site beginning around 1:00 PM.  If you don't know anything about it,
then go to http://www.scrollsander.com/AirRaceFunFly.htm and get the latest
information.

However, our day of flying begins earlier than you know.  We have been
invited by the Parks and Recreation Department (PARD) to participate in
their annual Junior Air Races.  They are not actually Air Races.  It is an
event sponsored by the PARD to get the community out for a hobby fair.  S3
has been asked to come out and show and fly our airplanes.  We have been
also been encouraged to bring out airplanes that the public can fly.  This
means Highlanders and anything else you might be willing to buddy box
someone on.

The "Junior Air Race" event will take place from 9:00AM to 1:00PM at the
North Valley Regional Sports Complex in Stead.  The park is located at 8085
Silver Lake Road, just off of Stead Blvd.  From 395, take the Stead exit and
turn right on Silver Lake Blvd. (your first right I think).  Drive until you
see the sports complex.  We flew there once before during ground-breaking
ceremonies a couple years ago.  S3 will have a booth/table to display
things.  We will provide information about the club, give away model
magazines, and hand out information about the slope event that will take
place later that day.  Hopefully we will have our banner completed by that
time.  If you have something special that you would like to contribute to
this event, or have some good ideas about how to make it better, please send
the information along, or bring it to the field on the morning of the 16th.

We will likely be flying with the Reno Radio Control Club.  We will use
their frequency board if they decide to participate.  Else, we will use our
own.  Come early and give yourself time to get through the Reno Air Race
traffic and to help set up if you want.  Whatever you choose to do, BRING
YOUR AIRPLANES AND FLY!  REMEMBER TO THINK SAFETY FIRST WHEN FLYING THIS
WEEKEND!

We will have our regular scheduled club contest on the 17th.  This is the
normal day.  We are not rescheduling the contest.  But if you can't fly two
days in a row, we will have a fun fly at Laura Springs on the 24th.

Through this Hobby Fair event, I came into contact with a park director that
has indicated to me that right now is an excellent time to talk to the
planners of the North Valley Complex about providing an area of the park for
flying.  It is possible we can have a launch and landing area.  I will be
discussing this further with the park director and getting more details.

Take care and see you all next Saturday,
Oliver

I may have missed some interested people in this mailing.  If so, please
forward this message.

Chris, you may want to contact Denise @ 971-8561 about setting up a booth
for your Scrollsander product.







[RCSE] CSS Sailaire OD Contest

2000-09-11 Thread rsiegel

The Cincinnati Soaring Society
Sailaire One Design & Nostalgia Contest
September 9, 2000


I’ve been tempted to call this contest the Sailaire & Nostalgia Float Fly,
but then people would get the idea that we’re flying gliders off the water.
H.

The weather forecast for the contest called for a 30 percent chance of rain.
Being the optimist, I turned this around to say that we had a 70 percent
chance of F-U-N!  And that’s just what happened, without a drop of rain till
after the gates to the field closed.

Conditions were great for flying floaters, southerly winds at 5 to 10 kts.
But the lift was tough.  I repeated our usual Sailaire OD task of 15 minutes
all day with runway landings.  This made it into a true thermal duration
contest, with the emphasis on duration.  The early lift was spotty and tight
requiring that we rack these big old birds around within a tight core.

On the other hand, there was some great sustained low-level scratching going
on as well.  Ron Allen, up from Louisville, added three minutes to a flight
with some consistent tree-top buoyancy that made his big old Sailaire look
like a Logic working the low stuff.

Two guys stood out for the day, however.  In Sailaire, Jack Strother took
everybody to the woodshed by scoring five max flights, even in the morning’s
first round where the next closest Sailaire time was a 7:52 by Ron Allen.
In Nostalgia, Paul Siegel showed the way with three maxes, a 10:41 and a
4:55, flying his beautiful Paragon.

I made a play for some wood in the Sailaire class, but I proved once again
that it doesn’t pay to be impatient to fly in an open winch format.  On my
third round I disregarded all the signs of sink and put up a blistering 1:33
and NO landing!  Then on another flight, I slid through a landing and lost
my landing score by two inches, with the fuse sitting on top of the landing
rope.  Ugh!  This placed Barry Anderson in third for the day, just 24 points
ahead of me.

Some notes on format.  We flew open winch by rounds all day.  We had an hour
time limit for the whole group to launch, whether flying one or both
classes.  Paul Siegel has a great idea to try; setting the flight/launch
order according to the seeded scores, with the top fliers launching first.
Next Year!

Thanks to all of those who come out, and to all of those who helped to pull
off a fun contest, including John Measamer, Barry Anderson, Tom Meyer, Jack
Strother and Sam Bach.


Scores

Sailaire

Jack Strother  4729
Paul Siegel  3168
Barry Andersen  2523
Rudy Siegel  2499
Ron Allen  1219
Sam Bach  1033
Harry Roe  697
Si Jordan  493

Nostalgia

Paul Siegel  4014
Jack Strother  3615
Bill Friend  3140
Tom Meyer  2965
Harry Roe  1936
Ron Allen  1726
Si Jordan  1662
Barry Anderson  421





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Re: [RCSE] NEW SUBJECT

2000-09-11 Thread Jimmy Prouty

Wow!  I must be lucky because my planes always fly like they're in the 
toilet!  ;) 

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Re: [RCSE] FORGETABOUTIT!

2000-09-11 Thread Jimmy Prouty

I've found the best way to not "listen to" topics that I'm not interested 
in is to set up filters with select words.  Anything that has "Sal", "NSP", 
"HTML" or other select words in the subject goes straight into the trash 
bin.  Another way is to simply block the people that abuse it the most.  To 
me it's much more annoying listening to the constant complaining about the 
e-mails than it is to just delete them.   Everyone has subjects that they 
don't like to read but others find them helpful.  If you're getting the 
digest version of the list, you're pretty much out of luck using 
filters.   PLEASE, let's just hit delete and not add to the waste of 
bandwidth complaining about other people's posts.

Happy flying,

Jimmy

(Pardon my waste of bandwidth!) ;)

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[RCSE] Fw: HLG golf

2000-09-11 Thread Peter Presant



 
- Original Message - 
From: Peter 
Presant 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 12:30 AM
Subject: HLG golf

Hi there
I have just been reading your posts about HLG golf.  One thing that 
was not clear to me was how you scored.  Was the glider only required to 
land on the green or did it have to be within a specified distance?  I can 
understand counting the number of throws, what about the rest?
A clarification on this would be gratefully received, I am posting from New 
Zealand.
 
Peter Presant
 
I originally posted this to the sender's email address.  It bounced, 
so I am posting it to RCSE in the hope the originator will see it and 
reply.
 
Thanks  Peter Presant


[RCSE] Sal bashing

2000-09-11 Thread Tom Nakagawa

   In the two or more years of ordering and returning
planes to NSP, I have not had a bad experience with
the planes.
   Yes, Sal can be short at times... but that is
because I get his dander up by telling him about our
weather here in Hawaii in February. 
   Years ago he accepted a return when I told him the
kit was beyond my experience to build (Epsilon W/
ailerons).  
   Within the past two months my orders have been
processed and handled as well as I can expect. One
Laser 2MC, and one 118" Jade.
   Sanity ? Perhaps because of some of the questions
he is asked to answer. 
   But I will still use his service for my stuff. 
   Aloha,
   Tom Nakagawa

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[RCSE] passaj

2000-09-11 Thread Lorenzo Fernandez




anybody have flown a Passaj ?


Re: [RCSE] Stylus batteries

2000-09-11 Thread Jimmy Prouty

I've been using one of the spring loaded holders with NiMh cells for over a 
year now with no problems.  Hand not heard of any problems with them until 
now.  Curious is anyone else has.

Happy flying,

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[RCSE] kicked off...??

2000-09-11 Thread Jimbonee

..from a telecon with TC it appears I've been off the RCSE net since 
about the last of August.

Now, cannot find proper subscribe message address

..RR.

Jimbo in NM
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[RCSE] Winch line

2000-09-11 Thread R. Blake Nielsen, D.M.D.

I know this is a bit redundant, that others have asked and this has
previously answered.  But, would someone be kind enough to point me in
the right direction to secure some winch line.  I've got a new to me winch
and would love to start trying to wear it out.  I'm assuming that most are
using in the neighborhood of 220lb?  Who stocks this stuff and where and how
to reach them would be greatly appreciated.

I am also in need of suggestions for retriever line, I need suggestions as
to size etc.

Thanks in advance,

Blake

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[RCSE] NSP "EDGE"

2000-09-11 Thread Gerry Harrison



Gents,
 
 
    Has anyone had any experience 
with the open class NSP " Edge "if so, any suggestions on components, 
handling improvements...yada yada yada,
 
Thanks to all in advance for your help. Gerry 
Harrison