[RCSE] odd addiction destruction?

[marc webster]

Hey Paul,

Well I destroyed my addiction this weekend and will be needing some stabs and a 
rudder.  As soon as I let go, the plane flipped upside down on launch and slammed the 
ground.  I will have to cut some cores and build another one.  What a waste of good 
carbon.  As usual, the timing is perfect.  Anyway, what do you charge for the stabs 
and rudder?  Can you still get the carbon rods, if not do you have aluminum?  

It was a pretty violent crash and my rod broke in half.  The plane veered off into a 
few chairs, and in the cup holder of one was a starbucks type styrofoam cup with a lid 
that was half full of coffee.  When we walked over to the crash site the cup of coffee 
had been sheared off so clean  it looked as though it was done with an exacto blade, 
and only a few drops of coffee was spilled.  Pretty crazy, luckily nobody was sitting 
there.  I can't imagine that a blunt leading edge could do this.  Somehow my trailing 
edge of my wing must of hit the cup or possibly my stabs?  Who knows!  Needless to say 
we learned a lesson and have now moved the pits to another location.

Talk to you later,

Marc Webster


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[RCSE] Spring PSS Festval

[Brian Laird]

Slopeheads

The Spring PSS Festival is filling up fast! If you are planning on attending this 
years event you should get your entry in ASAP. The event is a two day fun fly for PSS 
slope gliders. It is held at the top of the Cajon Pass in the San Bernardino National 
Forest. The hill is Huge the lift is Huge and there will be lots of bitchin slopers. 
The slope is large enough for us to set up two separate flying areas, one for foam or 
slow stuff and one for the fast heavy slope rockets. We have miles of sky to fly in up 
there. There will be a Scale contest with awards in 5 categories ( Prop, Jet, 
Civilian, WW-II, Best Foam) plus a great pilots raffle too. There will be Vendors on 
site selling goodies and food will be available on Saturday. Come on out and enjoy the 
fun. We do have a 60 Pilot limit and it probably will fill up it has every year so far.

If you would like to participate get your entry in ASAP. Price of entries goes up 
after May 1st and you could miss your chance at getting one of our cool T-shirts!

If any Vendors would like to set up a tent contact me ASAP so we can get you on the 
Vendor list.

Get your Entry form here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/inlandsloperebels/files/pss2001.jpg 


Brian Laird
CD PSS Festival

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PS
It is 3 miles down a dirt road so don't wash your car the day before!

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[RCSE] Oodles of URLS

[Andrew E. Mileski]

The first pass (ie. work in progress) of the RCSE URLS page is now
available at:

  http://www.netwinder.org/~andrewm/rc/urls.html

It is currently just a big list of "unique" URLS culled from the
RCSE mailing list.  I've only reviewed about the first 75 of the
nearly 3000 URLS so far (in reality, I've removed about 200 dead
URLS, duplicates, and non-relevant ones).

Things that catch my interest will eventually make it into my more
organized bookmarks (look under "RC" of course):

  http://www.netwinder.org/~andrewm/bookmark.html

Thanks to Jack Dubich, Dave Mosley, and Don Pratt, for the RCSE
archive messages.

--
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Re: [RCSE] Next Radio?

[Andrew E. Mileski]

Michael Conte wrote:
> 
> Dear Sailplaners,
> I've hit the limits of my JR XP783 transmitter and need to move on to
> something  with more flexible programming.  I'm contemplating getting the
> 8103 or 10X.  I'd like to stay with JR so all I would have to get is a
> transmitter.  Is the 10X really that much better than the 8103?  I've also
> heard great things about the Multiplex and Airtronics equivalents.  Should I
> consider switching?  Mind you, I have 6 airplanes with JR compatible
> receivers.  Thank you in advance for your input.  Would anyone be willing to
> trade a 10X for my 783? (Just thought I'd ask)

I own an XP8103.  I think it's great.  It's not perfect though.
Things I don't like (in order):
   1) Only 2 flight modes.
   2) No travel speed adjustments.
   3) Internal battery must be replaced every 5 years or
  transmitter goes into a coma.  This is a service item :(
   4) Most functions are not really channel/switch assignable.
   5) Dual flap forces a 7 channel receiver.
   6) Enable crow and you lose the 8th channel.
Otherwise a fine radio, and the gimbals are so smoooth.

I've not looked at the 10X in detail, as it was not in the price
range I was aiming for (not thrilled about touch screens either).
It didn't seem to have any sailplane specific programming, though
it may be possible to program the common mixes and functions.  It
did look more flexible.

The Airtronics line with a sailplane card is nice.  I previously
owned Airtronics, so I decided to go with JR this time.  I don't
regret it, but that's me :)

--
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[RCSE] [Fwd: [FAIsoaring] F3J and stackes]

[mikel]

>From the FAIsoaring list if you're not subscribed to that one.



> Paulo Dias Guimarães wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Realated to CIAM deliberations about F3J with prohibition of the use
> of stacks I decided to post a poll asking the opinion of our fellows
> aeromodelers. The results will be sent to CIAM.
> http://www.terravista.pt/enseada/8023
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Paulo Dias Guimarães
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Re: [RCSE] It's Kaltons fault!!!!

[Karlton Spindle]

Well glad to see it is out doing what it does best FLY!

Great to see reports of donations getting used not sold under price on ebay!

I as a donator would rather people go out and fly the donated items even if
they don't fly that type of plane!!

Besides that is one heck of a great plane.

Smooth Sailing,
Karlton Spindle
http://www.MultiplexRC.com
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From: "Charles Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Soaring listserver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 10:35 AM
Subject: [RCSE] It's Kaltons fault


> Good Morning
> Last weekend a few of us from the RMSA drug that asw27 out that Gary
> Lewan won at the Phoenix contest.
> We had no respect for this glider.. We figured it was free, why not
> tow it?? If it crashes in the prosess well who cares
> How could this little thing fly well anyway.. The wing is too small..
> The fuse is too big..
> We are use to duration models that perform.
> We did tow it!! We used an LT-40 trainer.
> I can't tell you how much fun we had!! All the tows were successfull and
> very high.
> I was very impressed with the perfomance of this scale glider... Now we
> have all the respect for this glider!!
> I took thermals out low,,, We speced the asw.. It flies well, looks
> nice!!
> I want to thank Kalton for his generosity at the Southwest classic...
> You have provided some pilots with a very fun day at the flying
> field
> And I am thinking of getting some scale ship in the future What was
> I thinking??? These scale ships are very cool!!
> Thanks again
> Charlie
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[RCSE] German Aero Club Letter

[Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner]

For those who are nervous about opening attachments, I have copied the text
from the letter recently posted from the German Aero Club. Seems like a
worthwhile commentary on the whole towing thread that's been raging on the
exchange. Wouldn't want someone to miss it just 'cause they don't want to
open an attachment. I'm totally not in the competition or towing game, just
thought it might be good to get this (in Plain Text!) onto the RCSE for
those to whom it's important, Best, Scobie:



Hallo all,
I was asked by leading members of the German Aero Club ( national soaring
committee ) to provide following information to the members of the soaring
list as well to the whole F3J community :

The German national body DAeC ( German Aero Club ) decided on a meeting last
week-end not to adopt the new towing rule (safety notice from march 26th
2001 ) and  to use a local rule  according to the Sporting Code from Jan 1st
2001 ( 2-man -towing with "stake" ) instead.
Reason are that the German Aero Club realizes that the simply banning of the
"stake" provides a lot of danger for helpers and towmen in F3J competition .
On the other hand the 2-man towing with a adequately fixed ground anchors
was well-proved and tested for many years in international competitions.
This towing system was developed by a german F3J-working-pool who was
working for 7 years on safety questions. The idea and intension was to keep
the tow-men out of the line of fire ( wipping lines ) by using a towing -bar
or a V-rope and to use a well fixed ground anchor instead of "human anchors
" who are in serious danger as well .
The accident in Slovakia  was sincerely regreted but the towing method used
in this accident had nothing to do with the safety standards in F3J
competitions today.
 Furtheron the German Aero Club will send a protest letter to the chairman
of the F3B/F3J sub-committee Mr. Thomas Bartovsky !
Also the german Aero Club will again present a proposal at the next CIAM
meeting which includes a detailed drawning and description for the so called
2-man-towing ( one main stake with at least 2 additional stakes, similar to
F3B turnaround ) in addition to the proven towing method according to
Sporting Code from Jan 1st 2001.
The German Aero Club also prefers to see F3J going on with "hand-towing" and
not to establish power-winches to keep the specific identity of the popular
F3J class. This was decided on a meeting early this winter !

If you need more information on this please write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


best regardsStefan Eder ( GER-2003 )..


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[RCSE] Microsoft IE users- here's how to actually do it!

[Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner]

As you can see from the message below posted by MSu1049321, (What an
interesting name, it's even more unusual than mine... What WERE his folks
thinking?) it's really helpful for a lot of the population on this list if
you send your messages to the exchange in the simple text-only format called
Plain Text, not the fancier microsoft version of HTML, which allows you
colors and typfaces and all sorts of whiz-bang factor. Microsoft starts you
out with the whizbang version, so if you want to send messages in Plain
Text, you have to get in there and make a change.

For those using Internet Explorer who are dying to be respectful and polite
to the RCSE but simply don't know how to make that setting change, here's
the deal. The change takes place just three or four unintuitive layers into
the controls for the program :), so you'll be there in a jiffy by just
following these (not obvious, as usual) steps :

Open the Program

On the top tool bar you'll see the word 'Tools' (To change something, like a
car tire, you need a Tool, right?)

Click on 'Tools', and a menu will drop down. Find the word 'Options'(I guess
its' the Options tool??). If you don't see the word 'Options' it's probably
because you are looking at an individual message window, and not the main
program window. Close the message window and go to the main program window
so that 'Internet Explorer' reads in the title band at the very top of your
screen. Find 'Tools', click on it, and you'll see 'Options'.

Click on 'Options', and you'll get a window with many tab titles. Choose the
tab called 'Mail Format'

You'll see a small text window. If the format listed in that Window is
'HTML', please change it by clicking on the little arrow button at the end
of the text window. That will give you several options. Please click on
'Plain Text'.  Then click on 'OK' at the bottom of that dialogue box and you
will be on your way to sending happy, less problematic messages to the
exchange. Congratulations.

Lift,
Scobie in Seattle



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [RCSE] Re :a word about how you format your mail to RCSE
>
>
> Us poor slobs who have to get the digest version often have to wade thru
> multiple copies and duplicate HTML text versions of all the
> various posts to
> RCSE.
>
>  This duplication of posts can double the size of the files and
> the time to
> skim/read them. I am led to understand by those who know that the problem
> comes in the main from you folks who write-in messages using a certain
> product out of Redmond. (grin) But, all can be fixed simply, if you would
> take but an extra second and select a "plain text" formatting for your
> outgoing mail, at least to RCSE. Then your thoughts and opinions get a
> clearer shot as they go out to us in the ether.
>
> Please, give it a try. If you don't yet understand the scope of
> the trouble,
> subscribe to the digest version for a couple days and see it for yourself.
>
> Thanks for your kind attention. Thermals!
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[RCSE] [Fwd: [FAIsoaring] F3J-towing]

[mikel]

 




Hallo all,
I was asked by leading members of the German Aero Club ( 
national soaring committee ) to provide following information to the members of 
the soaring list as well to the whole F3J community :
 
The German national body DAeC ( German Aero Club ) decided on 
a meeting last week-end not to adopt the new towing rule (safety notice 
from march 26th 2001 ) and  to use a local rule  according to the 
Sporting Code from Jan 1st 2001 ( 2-man -towing with "stake" ) 
instead.
Reason are that the German Aero Club realizes that the simply 
banning of the "stake" provides a lot of danger for helpers and towmen in F3J 
competition . On the other hand the 2-man towing with a adequately 
fixed ground anchors was well-proved and tested for many years in 
international competitions. This towing system was developed by a german 
F3J-working-pool who was working for 7 years on safety questions. The 
idea and intension was to keep the tow-men out of the line of fire ( 
wipping lines ) by using a towing -bar or a V-rope and to use a well 
fixed ground anchor instead of "human anchors " who are in serious danger 
as well . 
The accident in Slovakia  was sincerely regreted but the 
towing method used in this accident had nothing to do with the safety standards 
in F3J competitions today.
 Furtheron the German Aero Club will send a protest 
letter to the chairman of the F3B/F3J sub-committee Mr. Thomas Bartovsky 
!
Also the german Aero Club will again present a proposal 
at the next CIAM meeting which includes a detailed drawning and description 
for the so called 2-man-towing ( one main stake with at least 2 additional 
stakes, similar to F3B turnaround ) in addition to the proven towing method 
according to  Sporting Code from Jan 1st 2001.
The German Aero Club also prefers to see F3J going on with 
"hand-towing" and not to establish power-winches to keep the specific identity 
of the popular F3J class. This was decided on a meeting early this winter 
!
 
If you need more information on this please write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
best regardsStefan Eder ( GER-2003 
)..
 

Re: [RCSE] Nostalgia and RES

[Skye & Amy Malcolm]

I too think Nostalgia and RES are fun.  I personally don't get bothered by competing 
against those with more expensive planes.  I
like trying to beat a guy whose flying "the latest thing" with a cheap airplane built 
from a pile of sticks.  But I don't know if
the average newcomer feels the same.  Given the current rules for RES and Nostalgia I 
would guess the more competetive-thinking
persons will put lots of money into the ships they fly.  That's totally encouraged by 
the current rules so maybe that's what the
original intention was.  That was my question.  I just thought with Unlimited TD, 2 
meter, HL, F3B, F3J, and Scale that there might
be room for a class that actively discourages excessive $$ and saves a place for the 
simple and cheap stuff.

Cheers,
Skye

Thermal Rider wrote:

> I personally thought Nostalgia and RES were for fun myself but...
>
> You can find the rules for Nostalgia "The Original Nostalgia Site" at
> http://www.thermalrider.com/nost/rules.html
>
> Some thoughts on Nostalgia can be found at
> http://www.thermalrider.com/nost/altrules.html
>
> The rules for RES can be found at
> http://www.thermalrider.com/res/res_rules.html
> There are also some thoughts about RES at the bottom of the RES page.
>
> Thermal Rider
>
> http://www.thermalrider.com
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[RCSE] Re :a word about how you format your mail to RCSE

[MSu1049321]

Us poor slobs who have to get the digest version often have to wade thru 
multiple copies and duplicate HTML text versions of all the various posts to 
RCSE.

 This duplication of posts can double the size of the files and the time to 
skim/read them. I am led to understand by those who know that the problem 
comes in the main from you folks who write-in messages using a certain 
product out of Redmond. (grin) But, all can be fixed simply, if you would 
take but an extra second and select a "plain text" formatting for your 
outgoing mail, at least to RCSE. Then your thoughts and opinions get a 
clearer shot as they go out to us in the ether.

Please, give it a try. If you don't yet understand the scope of the trouble, 
subscribe to the digest version for a couple days and see it for yourself.

Thanks for your kind attention. Thermals!
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RE: [RCSE] Profi 4000 for HLG's?

[Chris Kaiser]

One thing to be wary of when hand-launching using expensive
radios is that you don't let go with the wrong hand... :-)
Yeah, I know - I thought the same. Been hand-launching for
years, have now done a lot of discus throwing, never once
come close to throwing the radio.

Until a couple of weeks ago when I launched my 8UAP while
demonstrating the discus thow technique :-( I'd just put
on sunblock and my hands were a bit slippery - wasn't a
problem until I really went for it on a throw...
Luckily I managed to get to the radio while my model was
still resonably high, amazingly it was still working fine
and I landed the model no problem, even more amazingly
not a single one of the switches was broken or damaged!
Futaba owners will know how incredible this is!
In fact the only damage was that the battery had broken
out one end of it's internal box, and since all the bits
of plastic were still inside I was able to glue them back
together :-)

BTW, I'd just bought a Futaba 9Z as my primary radio,
but had already decided NOT to use it for hand launch.
You can be sure I haven't changed my mind :-)

Ciao - Chris

**
Chris Kaiser
Auckland,  NEW ZEALAND
http://rcmodels.co.nz/clubs/asfcnz


> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Vandenheuvel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, 2 April 2001 23:31
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [RCSE] Profi 4000 for HLG's?
> 
> 
> Are any of you HLG guiders using a Profi 4000? Is the TX 
> managable with one 
> hand during the launch?
> TIA
> Tim
> _
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[RCSE] Holy Greased Lightning, Batman!!!!

[Paul Klissner]

Wow!  Ballast?  Are you crazy?!!!  

Threw the NSP Flash today from Coyote.  Storm on the way in.
One of those "special" days at Coyote with the wind 
quite rippin' from the West at 20-25 MPH.  Gusty but not
bad, just nice vertical crescendos that were taking gliders
up 50-100 ft in two blinks like they were dandilion tufts.

The Flash is pure fast and flies on rails.  It is NOT your 
father's Oldsmobile.  It doesn't need ballast even in high wind
to be almost faster than my hands can handle (but I handled
it).  My real issue was slowing it down for landing, because
I'm real spoiled on flaps.  The spoilerons do drop it in as per 
the instructions, but don't slow it down as much as the instructions 
seem to imply, unless there's something wrong in my setup or its
just because not used to landing with spoilerons.   I did not
find it slowing up into the wind as much as most of my other
gliders.  It is very slippery.  As a first time flier of this
kit, it took me several passes to land it.  Several.  And
I can usually do it in one or two passes. 

I may build flaps just to protect my investment.   But I don't 
want to mess with its wonderfully clean crisp, seemingly dragless 
characteristics.  I found the Dominator to be overall better
behaved in the sense that it is more forgiving.  But the 
Dominator is not as quick or exciting in the way the Flash is.
The Flash really gives the impression of speed to the flier 
and to onlookers.

So what can I say?   Its one hot little bird, and pretty good 
looking after all.

Just take the "Adv" warning seriously and you may get out alive,
Its is a guided missle and should have a radioactive decal.

I can't say for sure that it rivals the Snipe, but that's what 
it kind of reminds me of.


Over.
-Paul
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[RCSE] A fully dischargeable winch battery

[Walba, Rick]

Go here
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?type=store&category=160&o
rderby=INVENTORY%2Estore%5Fquantity%2CORGANIZATION%2Ecategory%2CINVENTORY%2E
brand%2CINVENTORY%2Emodel&start=32
 

Order 6 of the 2v, 25amp Cyclon BC cells and hook them in series. They are
desined to discharge at close to 1000amps, so I don't see why they wouldn't
work fine as automotive batteries couldn't handle that. They can also be
discharged down to their minimum 1.67vpc.

These are top of the line Hawker gates cells, 3.7 pounds each. Ordinarily
they sell for $25, but here for $5.50 (says used but they tell me they were
taken out of new equiptment and never actually used).

Rick

-Original Message-
From:   D Hauch/ D Unruh [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, April 02, 2001 7:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[RCSE] how to discharge a winch battery?

Hey guys,
Is there a way for me to total discharege my winch battery?
I've never been able to drain it in a days worth of flying.
And is this a good idea to drain it once in a while like a 
nicad?
Apperciate any advice,
Dave Hauch

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Re: [RCSE] Radar Gun Wanted

[Lido Mail]

You can usually find an ad for them in RCM, as well as in the back of
Popular Mechanics.

Matt
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:08 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Radar Gun Wanted


> Hi Guys,
>
> Anyone know where I can purchase or rent a Radar Gun?
>
> TIA
>
> Rich
> Nor Cal
>
>
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