Re: [RCSE] LED's

2001-08-21 Thread Aerofoam


> Has anyone experimented with taking apart one of those super bright led
> lights you can find at REI or other outdoor places?  I think they are
called
> sapphire LED's.  I was thinking of doing this for my slowflyer as landing
> lights.

You can buy the super bright white or blue LED's, they can be up to $3.00 a
piece. Some are dual element.
I have driven airborne LEDs buy using groups of 2 wired in series, the
groups are wired in parallel to the 4.8v. flight pack.
My 36" Avro would run for 45min. with all 8 bright LED's burning from the
250mah flight pack.
Green and yellow are far more visible than red, it has to do with the color
sensitivity of our eyes. Blue is really bad.
If there is enough interest, I might be able to get a good surplus bulk
purchase going...

 Mark Mech
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Re: [RCSE] LED's

2001-08-21 Thread Erik Alber

Has anyone experimented with taking apart one of those super bright led
lights you can find at REI or other outdoor places?  I think they are called
sapphire LED's.  I was thinking of doing this for my slowflyer as landing
lights.

Erik Alber
Portland Area Soaring Society  Vice President
"The Resin Head"
http://NuanceHLG.8k.com


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Subject: Re: [RCSE] LED's


> Perry Hudson wrote:
> >
> > Um.  I'm hooking up some LED's on my night slope ship and was wondering
if I
> > need to go in parallel or series??
> >
> > The LED's are rated at 2V and 20 mha.  They don't seem very bright at
2V.  Any
> > guess on how much they can take??
>
> I doubt they will be very visible.  You'll get better visibility
> using Christmas tree bulbs. (the small ones of course).
>
> > I have two 2.4v 500 mha packs wired in parallel.
>
> 18 x 20 mA = 360 mA, so 500 mAh / 360 mA = 1.39 h (83 minutes)
>
> --
> Andrew E. Mileski
> Ottawa, Canada
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Re: [RCSE] Re: Windfree Days

2001-08-21 Thread Michael Morjoseph



Yes I had the Exp of watching both Mark Smith and his dad Rod 
Smith fly at the HSS field in Costa Mesa cal way back in 1973 or so .. mark was 
a Great!!! Pilot then he could always Catch his Windfree in his hand like a Pro 
remember there was no Flaps or Spoilers to slow you down...
I guess this says I have been doing it awhile then I found out 
that Girls were better than Models when going thru High School in the 70's.. so 
the gliders went... for 20 years now they are back Bigger and Better... so is my 
Pocket Book ..
Mike M so cal..
 

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  Anyone who might have 
  had the experience of watching Mark Smith fly the Windfree might have a 
  little more respect and appreciation for the plane.  It was great in 
  its time. 


[RCSE] Fw: Scale Soaring List JR TX Module

2001-08-21 Thread Gerry Harrison



 
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Gents,
 
  I own a JR 8103 DT TX and am somewhat 
confused on the module purpose at this point. The JR manual informs the owner 
that if a frequency change is required you simply change the module with I 
suppose the new frequency ( manual is not that clear ). If you visit the Horizon 
Hobbies website the module and crystal set are sold separately. My question, is 
the JR TX module tuned to the appropriate TX crystal or can one put any 
frequency in the module with success. I have seen scale pilots change 
frequencies on the JR 8103 module by merely switching crystals...according to MY 
manual and meager understanding this is not the correct procedure. Anyone have a 
clear understanding of this situation.
 
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Re: [RCSE] Fixing v-tail ball-linkages

2001-08-21 Thread Jim Miller

a replacement should probably poke into the chord of the elevator a bit.
the resulting bit of wire would then have two bends in it:  one bend aft to
travel a bit into the chord, another bend down to be soldered to the ball.

have fun

jtm
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Subject: [RCSE] Fixing v-tail ball-linkages


I was checking out my Opus V after flying this weekend and noticed that the
metal part of the ball link attached to one of the elevators was loose.
The movement in the part itself is almost imperceptible by eye, but you can
feel that it will wiggle forward and back a tiny bit.  It also resulted in
a small amount of hysterisis in the elevator, which was how I noticed it.

I'm trying to figure out what the best long term fix for this is.  The
linkage is bascially a steel shaft that runs for about 1/2" down the
elevator hingeline to the root, where it angles downward and terminates in
the balllink.  The shaft appears to be secured with a bunch of epoxy/micro
balloons that hold it in place.  Apparently the shaft must have broken
loose a bit inside all that goop.  I was thinking I could grind out the
stuff and try re-epoxying it, or maybe shoot some CA in there to tighten it
up?

What do you guys think?



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[RCSE] Fixing v-tail ball-linkages

2001-08-21 Thread jaffee

I was checking out my Opus V after flying this weekend and noticed that the
metal part of the ball link attached to one of the elevators was loose.
The movement in the part itself is almost imperceptible by eye, but you can
feel that it will wiggle forward and back a tiny bit.  It also resulted in
a small amount of hysterisis in the elevator, which was how I noticed it.

I'm trying to figure out what the best long term fix for this is.  The
linkage is bascially a steel shaft that runs for about 1/2" down the
elevator hingeline to the root, where it angles downward and terminates in
the balllink.  The shaft appears to be secured with a bunch of epoxy/micro
balloons that hold it in place.  Apparently the shaft must have broken
loose a bit inside all that goop.  I was thinking I could grind out the
stuff and try re-epoxying it, or maybe shoot some CA in there to tighten it
up?

What do you guys think?



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[RCSE] Slope meet

2001-08-21 Thread Charles P. Howerton

Can anyone tell me when the next big slope meet 
is to be over in eastern Washington?
Please reply by email directly
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Re: [RCSE] Europeon Noses High-F3B Sites

2001-08-21 Thread James V. Bacus

At 11:57 PM 8/21/2001, Johnny Berlin wrote:
> > I read the comments and figured that, sure, Joe could fly Euro planes and
> > win, but he's probably looking for a challenge, so he rolls his own. As
>for
> > the the blown up Icon, I'm guessing they might have added just a little
>too
> > much lightness, in an effort to gain an advantage.
>
>
>OR he might have had it sent there by UPS

ROFL 8-))


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Re: [RCSE] Supplier of powdered lead?

2001-08-21 Thread Andrew E. Mileski

Matt Lydon wrote:
> 
> Some time ago someone mentioned that golf pro shops ballast the new graphite
> clubs with powdered lead. Does anyone know of a mail order house which
> carries it, and what they call it?

They call it "Lead - Powdered" :)  $4.95 a pound 
  http://www.golfworks.com/item_display.asp?ProductNumber=LP

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Re: [RCSE] LED's

2001-08-21 Thread Jim Miller

LEDs don't respond simply to voltage they are driven by current.  LEDs
should consequently be all in series so that they get the same current
through them.  The difficulty comes in generating that current with a simple
yet efficient circuit.  A battery of sufficient voltage connected to a
series resistor in series with the string of LEDs will need to be
approximately 2 volts per LED depending on the type of LED and the
temperature of the LED (this typically varies during operation further
complicating matters.)  It won't be very efficient but it will work.

Paralleling batteries doesn't produce a useful result; don't bother.  Get
batteries of sufficient capacity to produce approximately 2V per LED, add
another cell(s) to give 2 volts of drop across the series resistor and
provide the 20mA necessary.

Here's a typical set of numbers:  4 LEDs (two wingtips, nose, tail) means
~8-9volts needed.  This means an 8 NiCD or NiMH cell battery with each cell
rated at ~100mAH so that it can actually drive 20mA.  You might get by with
50mAH cells.  Add another two cells to drive the drop across the resistor.
That makes a 10cell pack.  Use a 100ohm resistor to give about 20mA.  If you
didn't care about recharging you could probably use a 9v alkaline battery
with a 100ohm resistor if you only used three LEDs.

You could do this a heck of a lot more efficiently by using niteops or by
using a single cell with a voltage converter like the LT1932 and a few
parts.

have fun

jtm
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Subject: [RCSE] LED's



Um.  I'm hooking up some LED's on my night slope ship and was wondering if I
need to go in parallel or series??

The LED's are rated at 2V and 20 mha.  They don't seem very bright at 2V.
Any
guess on how much they can take??

I have two 2.4v 500 mha packs wired in parallel.  Any guess on duration with
18 led's pulling 20 mha's.  A battery guy once told me you won't realize the
batteries full capacity by wiring the cells that way.  All the ohms law
stuff
went right over my head.  Oh yeah! I was surfing that day Mr. Ohms was
presented.


Comments.
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RE: [RCSE] Re: Starting out

2001-08-21 Thread Nicholas Wisdom

I would recommend visiting the Ezone at www.ezonemag.com and looking at
their reviews section for several reviews of powered electric
sailplanes.  Also stop by the sailplane forum in the discussion area and
ask away.  The Ezone is a great resource, and it can stop you from
buying twice.  The people there can teach you how to take a lame stock
electric kit like say the Aspire EP ARF, and purchase the correct power
system the first time instead of a lame stock one.  Definitely worth
checking out before you buy.

Good Luck

Nick Wisdom
Orlando, FL

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Re: [RCSE] Europeon Noses High-F3B Sites

2001-08-21 Thread Johnny Berlin


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Subject: Re: [RCSE] Europeon Noses High-F3B Sites


> I read the comments and figured that, sure, Joe could fly Euro planes and
> win, but he's probably looking for a challenge, so he rolls his own. As
for
> the the blown up Icon, I'm guessing they might have added just a little
too
> much lightness, in an effort to gain an advantage.



OR he might have had it sent there by UPS

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Fw: [RCSE] Organic setup and trim

2001-08-21 Thread Pat McCleave


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Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Organic setup and trim


> Mark,
>
> I have been flying an Escape for almost a year now and an Organic since
June
> and I feel that there with both planes that a small amount of camber is
> helpful in light lift conditions.  My camber settings for both planes give
> at most maybe 1-2mm of deflection.  I find with my Escape that when
> thermalling in low tight bubbles that I can crank up tighter and pull back
> harder on the elevator without it wanting to stall out of the turn and it
> appears to have a better climb rate.  I have no engineering experience to
> base any of my thoughts on so hey it may all be just an illusion.  With
what
> you and others have said though I will be playing around more with using
and
> not using camber to see if I am just wanting it to work because "camber is
> supposed to let you fly and sink slower" or to see if it indeed it is
really
> working.  I know when I have been flying my Organic in the wind there has
> been a noticeable benefit to adding in a little camber for wave soaring
our
> field's house wave that forms south and west of the field when the wind
> blows from the south west.  More experimenting to follow.
>
> See Ya,
>
> Pat McCleave
> Wichita, KS
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> From: Mark Drela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] Organic setup and trim
>
>
> >
> > >Camber is useless on a MH-32.
> > >It may fly slower but it will be sinking faster.
> >
> > I wouldn't discount using camber on the Organic without
> > systematically trying it out.
> >
> > Camber doesn't work well on a MH-32 composite ship
> > because the upper surface laminar run is too long --
> > you easily get laminar separation off the flap hinge.
> > But the covering sag on the Organic will surely
> > cause earlier transition, and may make the flap
> > more effective.  Worth a try at least.
> >
> > - Mark
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Re: [RCSE] Re: Starting out

2001-08-21 Thread SilentFlight

The guy's looking out to start in gliders, not to win the worlds..


I'm in the same boat as the original poster: started with a Spectra after
years.. decades, even, of boat and car experience. The Spectra is docile out
of the box, and performance increases GREATLY with addition of a 12X8
folder, inline gearbox, and 7-cell battery.  I HIGHLY recommend it, as a
beginner, for a beginner. PRetty inexpensive for what you get, too!


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Subject: [RCSE] Re: Starting out


> The electric glider kits I've seen are too heavy for their size, at
> least for a beginner, say 45 or 50 oz for a two meter (78" or so). That
> weight for 100" might be nice. I don't know why they make them so heavy,
> but they do. Mark Drela has shown you can do a 2M electric at 20 oz or
> so, but that's a special case and you can't expect a kit quite that
> light.  Maybe you could do one of those park fliers first? Some of them
> are real floaters. The Bleriot 2 is amazingly slow, but then you
> couldn't fly outside except on very calm days.
>
> Has anyone tried the MiniMax electric? If it is as advertised it might
> be good, but I've never seen one.
>
> If you stuffed a Master Airscrew prop/drive/motor in an Olympic 2 with
> at least 7 cells I bet it would fly well, but it would probably be a
> pain to do compared to a kit.
>
> If you don't mind slimers, you could stick an .049 on most light 2
> meters and do well, but it would be draggy once you knew what you were
> doing, and .049s can be tricky.
> snip
> >
> > I am sure that this is not a new question, but I would
> > like to start out with a powered glider.  Are there
> > any out there suitable for training on might meet my
> > requirements?  I do have experience with rc cars and
> > boats and have used a twin stick radio system as well.
> >  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Travis Donily - PDX
>
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Re: [RCSE] Europeon Noses High-F3B Sites

2001-08-21 Thread Sal DeFrancesco

Perkins is three time World Champ. BTW...His Icon died before the contest. I 
understand it blew up. This is not a design flaw but a
possible mistake in the layup. This is understandable given the fact that Perkins' 
Icon was made on short notice.

Rick Eckel wrote:

> I read those comments too.  It occurred to me that many mind games are
> probably played at these contests.  Wouldn't hurt to plant some seeds of
> doubt in the mind of a two time (or is that three? I'm having a 404
> moment.) world champ. :-)
>
> Rick
>
>   At 06:47 AM 8/21/01 -0400, Marc Gellart wrote:
> >It is kind of interesting that one of the sites, not the official one I
> >think, was really kind of slamming the Icons as not stiff enough and if only
> >Daryl and Joe would fly real F3B ships from Europe they might have a chance.
> >I hope the term "bring it on" will be appropriate at the end of this.
> >
> >Marc
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: D'Anne Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:30 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Cc: Marc Gellart; Soaring List
> >Subject: Re: [RCSE] F3B Site ?'s
> >
> >
> >Marc,
> >
> >The T-tail is definitely not Gavin's.  I presume it to be one of the two
> >planes
> >that Daryl Perkins was to pick up over there (possibly a Warp?).  Gavin is
> >flying his Y2K v-tail's in the WCs.  (He has many backups 8-).
> >
> >I saw a number of photo's of Joe's Icon on the French internet site - but I
> >can't read french!  I'll ask some of my friends at work to translate for me.
> >Obviously it has stirred up some interest with them.
> >
> >D'Anne Thompson
> >
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Marc Gellart wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There have been two websites shown for the F3B results and to say the
> >least
> > > > they do not look to jive at all, which one is up to standards?
> > >
> > > You should start with
> > > http://www.minfo.cz/f3b2001/
> > >
> > > which is the official site.  Use the Diary link to see what is going
> > > on.  Today's diary has a photo of Daryl being interviewed and Gavin
> > > Botha holding this retro T-tail model.  It looks like the americans have
> > > totally insulted the European style of models by showing up with a
> > > T-tail model and an Amoeba cross-tail model.
> > >
> > > The results for the day appear to show a complete Duration task and a
> > > partially complete Distance task based on the number of zero scores in
> > > Distance.
> > >
> > > Don't look at the last three links for the FAI Open International
> > > competition, Prix Chrudim.  That was the Eurotour contest that was held
> > > just before the WC.
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Re: [RCSE] "IT's the UN-dive test!!!"

2001-08-21 Thread Aireze1

Hi All, if Gordy would be so kind as to tell us what month the article on 
balance appeared in. The unwashed and huddled masses could order this issue 
and might even like it and therefore subscribe to the Digest. A link would 
also be nice. Rich
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Re: [RCSE] The infamous dive test

2001-08-21 Thread Tom Broeski

I see.  It is the trimming part.  I guess when we tested it, it appeared to be trimmed 
neutral, but it is a big plane, so may have appeared okay.  If it wasn't, and had a 
bit of down trim, then it would have appeared to need more weight.



Lincoln Ross wrote:

> This is very unlikely. Either you misinterpreted the test, or there is
> something weird (read: elastic) about your plane, or you conducted the
> test improperly.
>
> If the nose pulls up fast when diving after trimming for a reasonable
> speed, you need LESS noseweight and then retrim. If it doesn't pull up,
> you need MORE noseweight and a retrim. At least to get to a reasonable
> point, and then it's to taste.
>
> Too much weight in the nose will NOT make the dive test give the wrong
> results, as long as you trim to a reasonable speed first.
>
> Tom Broeski wrote:
> > I learned one major thing from the dive test. You can have too much weight and 
>get the same
> > indication that having too little shows.
> >
> > With Gordy's help, we did a dive test on my Stork.  I had a considerable amount of 
>nose weight
> > to start with.  We did a few dive tests and the indication was to add more weight, 
>which really
> > put the cg forward.  I tried flying the plane at the Nats and it would not thermal 
>at all.  I
> > could turn and turn and turn and it was a real dog.  I got home, and decided to 
>just take out a
> > bunch of weight to see what would happen.  It flew much better and the cg was much 
>closer to
> > spec.  Then with some trimming, I took out more weight until the plane was pretty 
>squirly.  A
> > bit of adjustment on the tow hook and a bit of weight back in and now it is a 
>happy plane.  So
> > too much weight can also make the plane appear to need more.  It also flies 
>inverted very well
> > now.
> >
> > Tom
>
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Re: [RCSE] More complete F3B report

2001-08-21 Thread Klaus K Weiss

Oh no!! Not Euro-biased.  What's wrong with these people. Don't they know
the U.S.A. is competing?  The reports should be U.S. biased.  :)


Klaus K Weiss
Sydney, Australia
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john roe wrote
> You can go to this link for a more complete- if somewhat Euro-biased
>
> report with pictures.  http://www.volny.cz/danyf3b/f3bwcchrudim.htm


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Re: [RCSE] Europeon Noses High-F3B Sites

2001-08-21 Thread Rick Eckel

I read those comments too.  It occurred to me that many mind games are 
probably played at these contests.  Wouldn't hurt to plant some seeds of 
doubt in the mind of a two time (or is that three? I'm having a 404 
moment.) world champ. :-)

Rick

  At 06:47 AM 8/21/01 -0400, Marc Gellart wrote:
>It is kind of interesting that one of the sites, not the official one I
>think, was really kind of slamming the Icons as not stiff enough and if only
>Daryl and Joe would fly real F3B ships from Europe they might have a chance.
>I hope the term "bring it on" will be appropriate at the end of this.
>
>Marc
>
>-Original Message-
>From: D'Anne Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:30 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: Marc Gellart; Soaring List
>Subject: Re: [RCSE] F3B Site ?'s
>
>
>Marc,
>
>The T-tail is definitely not Gavin's.  I presume it to be one of the two
>planes
>that Daryl Perkins was to pick up over there (possibly a Warp?).  Gavin is
>flying his Y2K v-tail's in the WCs.  (He has many backups 8-).
>
>I saw a number of photo's of Joe's Icon on the French internet site - but I
>can't read french!  I'll ask some of my friends at work to translate for me.
>Obviously it has stirred up some interest with them.
>
>D'Anne Thompson
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Marc Gellart wrote:
> > >
> > > There have been two websites shown for the F3B results and to say the
>least
> > > they do not look to jive at all, which one is up to standards?
> >
> > You should start with
> > http://www.minfo.cz/f3b2001/
> >
> > which is the official site.  Use the Diary link to see what is going
> > on.  Today's diary has a photo of Daryl being interviewed and Gavin
> > Botha holding this retro T-tail model.  It looks like the americans have
> > totally insulted the European style of models by showing up with a
> > T-tail model and an Amoeba cross-tail model.
> >
> > The results for the day appear to show a complete Duration task and a
> > partially complete Distance task based on the number of zero scores in
> > Distance.
> >
> > Don't look at the last three links for the FAI Open International
> > competition, Prix Chrudim.  That was the Eurotour contest that was held
> > just before the WC.
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Re: [RCSE] Europeon Noses High-F3B Sites

2001-08-21 Thread mikel

Marc Gellart wrote:
> 
> It is kind of interesting that one of the sites, not the official one I
> think, was really kind of slamming the Icons as not stiff enough and if only
> Daryl and Joe would fly real F3B ships from Europe they might have a chance.
> I hope the term "bring it on" will be appropriate at the end of this.
> 
> Marc

I guess he wrote that before speed was flown.  The larger size is very
deceptive. It doesn't look fast even when it's going fast.  And of
course, for the same precent of bending, the amount of bending you see
at the tip on a larger wing will look like more. 

Let's just hope the weather gets better and things start moving faster
so they can
get a full six rounds in for the contest.  The amount of flying on the
first day was not impressive, but that may have been the weather.
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[RCSE] Europeon Noses High-F3B Sites

2001-08-21 Thread Marc Gellart

It is kind of interesting that one of the sites, not the official one I
think, was really kind of slamming the Icons as not stiff enough and if only
Daryl and Joe would fly real F3B ships from Europe they might have a chance.
I hope the term "bring it on" will be appropriate at the end of this.

Marc

-Original Message-
From: D'Anne Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Marc Gellart; Soaring List
Subject: Re: [RCSE] F3B Site ?'s


Marc,

The T-tail is definitely not Gavin's.  I presume it to be one of the two
planes
that Daryl Perkins was to pick up over there (possibly a Warp?).  Gavin is
flying his Y2K v-tail's in the WCs.  (He has many backups 8-).

I saw a number of photo's of Joe's Icon on the French internet site - but I
can't read french!  I'll ask some of my friends at work to translate for me.
Obviously it has stirred up some interest with them.

D'Anne Thompson


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Marc Gellart wrote:
> >
> > There have been two websites shown for the F3B results and to say the
least
> > they do not look to jive at all, which one is up to standards?
>
> You should start with
> http://www.minfo.cz/f3b2001/
>
> which is the official site.  Use the Diary link to see what is going
> on.  Today's diary has a photo of Daryl being interviewed and Gavin
> Botha holding this retro T-tail model.  It looks like the americans have
> totally insulted the European style of models by showing up with a
> T-tail model and an Amoeba cross-tail model.
>
> The results for the day appear to show a complete Duration task and a
> partially complete Distance task based on the number of zero scores in
> Distance.
>
> Don't look at the last three links for the FAI Open International
> competition, Prix Chrudim.  That was the Eurotour contest that was held
> just before the WC.
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Re: [RCSE] Antenna help!!

2001-08-21 Thread T. Duvall

Try this email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Ed Burris was selling the duckey antenna's a few
months ago, and may still have some.
T. Duvall
Central Ca


--- Candi McGregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everyone
>  I bought a Becker S800 radio about 2 or 3 years ago
> and it was damaged
> in shipment. The antenna was broke near the base.
> Can someone point me
> to a company that maybe could install and Rubber
> Duckey type antenna or
> replace the original one?? It has a male thread
> sticking out of the top
> of the trans. And not sure if this is the norm. on
> other makes of trans.
> I take it that it will have to be matched to the
> trans?? Thanks Jerry
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