[RCSE] NSP Condor too much nose weight?
At 30% of MAC I calculated the CG to be 2.9" behind LE. This has me adding about 11 oz of lead in the nose to balance. Now this thing has a great big V-tail and I was hoping this would allow me to move CG rearward. Sal says the thing weighs in at 65oz. That's where I am before balancing. This is my first full house ship, but 11 oz seems, well, ridiculous. Anyone have a clue where to start with CG on this plane. It is NOT a Slegers Condor, rather more like a Graphite. Thanks a bunch, Pete __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] New projects
Hey all, I just finished an F4U Corsair from Aerofoam. I took it out last week and tossed it over the side of a two hundred foot cliff. The winds were about 20 mph. The Corsair flew well and I had a ball with it. With the help of my neighbor who is a professional painter, I am finishing my first 3 meter T/D sailplane. It is a Sapphire from Sal. It is fitted with multiplex radio gear. It may not be the latest moldie but it sue is gonna look great. I can't wait to put it on the winch. Happy New Year, Rick RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Flap wiper material
Role your own. Mix some cabosil or silica with regular (not laminating) epoxy to the consistancy of, well, twice as thick as molasses. I think you will understand in a moment how viscous it needs to be. You need to be able to move the surface enough so as to run some good quality electical tape along the LE of the control surface that overhangs. The idea being is that you will build up enough of a layer of thickened epoxy along the sticky side along the LE of the control surface, then slide the tape under the TE of the panel and place the control surface at 45 degrees deflection comapared to main panel. Then cradle the panel so as the hingeline is horizontal, and gravity will (slightly) flow out the mixture. It will cure in such a fashion that when you remove the tape, the wiper will have the appropriate radius and only the tape thickness as a gap between both surfaces. YOu may have to vary the width of the electrical tape on really small stuf, but usually you can have more of the tape up on top of the control surface (this is good, as you do not want the tape to peel up while the mixture is setting up). Oh ya, hot glue will work too if can work real quick. The advantage with this is it remains somewhat pliable. Of course, this works on any similar control surface. Greg Smith wrote: > > Howdy, > > I am attempting to resurrect a plane that had nice flap and aileron wipers > in the past but now are toast. Where can I get some new curvy wiper > material? > > Thanks, > -- > Greg Smith > Slope Soaring Resource > http://www.slopeflyer.com > > US distributor for Airtech Psychos and Pixels > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Simon Van Leeuwen, Calgary, Alberta RADIUS SYSTEMS Cogito-Ergo-Zoom IAC25233*MAAC12835*IMAC1756*LSF5953*IMAA20209 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] push rods
Jerry, Believe it or not regular masking tape sticks to those kind of pushrod housing real well. What you do is to wrap the tape tightly around the tube wherever you want to glue the tube and then glue to the tape. The glue sticks good to the outside of the tape. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS - Original Message - From: Shape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RCSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 8:22 PM Subject: [RCSE] push rods > My latest plane comes with carbon pushrods that run in somekind of nylon > cover that dose not seem to glue well to fiberglass. On the rear of fuse, > the tubes are held in place running though foam formers. I 'm looking > something to secure the pushrod tubes from the forward most former towards > the rud/elev servos.I know everbody has been doing this for years but I have > been resisting this for just this reason. What have all of you been using? > Jerry > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] push rods
Again, try GOOP (Marine, Plumbers, Household, etc - they are all the same according to MSDS), or Shoe GOO, or PFM. Create a small fillet, submerse the tube apply some over the tube and let dry. Do prevent this adhesive from sagging, wet your finger and rub lightly to cause it to skin over. Shape wrote: > > My latest plane comes with carbon pushrods that run in somekind of nylon > cover that dose not seem to glue well to fiberglass. On the rear of fuse, > the tubes are held in place running though foam formers. I 'm looking > something to secure the pushrod tubes from the forward most former towards > the rud/elev servos.I know everbody has been doing this for years but I have > been resisting this for just this reason. What have all of you been using? > Jerry > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Simon Van Leeuwen, Calgary, Alberta RADIUS SYSTEMS Cogito-Ergo-Zoom IAC25233*MAAC12835*IMAC1756*LSF5953*IMAA20209 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Flap wiper material
Years (many) ago I used to use 35mm black and white film developed without having been exposed. Kind of a hassle but it worked well and usually had a curve to it from hanging up to dry while weighted at one end. Had an opaque gray tint to it which looked kind of neat contrasted with some colors of Monokote. RVC > Howdy, > > I am attempting to resurrect a plane that had nice flap and aileron wipers > in the past but now are toast. Where can I get some new curvy wiper > material? > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re:Flap wiper material
In a message dated 01/05/02 07:01:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I am attempting to resurrect a plane that had nice flap and aileron wipers > in the past but now are toast. Where can I get some new curvy wiper > material? Drafting mylar works nice for this, comes on a roll so has some curl, has one shiny side and one matte side (takes pencil marks well) and is light enough for even HLG gap seals, but strong enough for open class models. Glue on the matte side, which also happens to curl the right way (at least on the stuff I have). Really thin two sided tape works well also. The drafting store calls it transfer tape. Mark Navarre - RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] gyro for a HL
>Not that I would ever use one but a flying buddy is inquiring. What is the >gyro of choice and who has em? Hobby People has the little GWS/Cirrus piezo gyro for about $50. See http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/444510.htm . - David [EMAIL PROTECTED] USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Freeware cad program
Richard wrote: > I used to have (before last hard drive crash) a freeware cad program. It > was a free 2d version of a 3d program that you could buy if you liked > it. I can't for the life of me remember the name of it or the website > where I got it. > I have been using Intellicad, which has a free download available. I also use Autocad, but I find Intellicad is more user friendly and does just about everything I need. It is a very powerful program that the average user is unlikely to outgrow. The web site for free download ishttp://www.intellicadms.com/ It is about 19Mb but is worth the effort. I like it a lot better than Turbocad. -- John O'Sullivan Nova Scotia Wind and Wave Models http://www.windandwavemodels.com/index.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Wire Channels - Methods for cutting/burning
All, I have wing panels I've been bagging for a slope ship. Have been doing just ailerons up until now. I want to do flaps and ailerons on the latest set I'm getting ready to finish. Previously I have been using a brass tube with the end sharpened and notched to produce teeth for cutting the wire channels. I've been using a crude guide, while twisting the rod, to control the location and path of the cut. This method has worked fine where the servo pockets are relatively close to the root of the panel, say 4 or 5 inches. Now I have a need to go out about 15 inches for the aileron cavities. Haven't tried the above mentioned method but feel I need some better approach for the aileron runs. The panels are semi thin, about 1/2" so I need to control the channel location so not to runout on the top or bottom surface before getting to the servo cavity. Also need to hit the cavity somewhat accurately in the chordwise direction too. I would rather not cut open the bottom surface of the wing to run wire, and then have to patch it. I've seen very nice, accurate channels cut/burned in bought stuff. Now how do they do it??? Anyone have a slick way of accurately cutting or burning channels in pre-bagged panels?? Thanks for any advice, RB RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Flap wiper material
Greg. . .the 1" wide, curved slats found on those plastic window blinds work well. Cut a strip about 3/8" wide along a machined edge and bend it slightly along its center line over the edge of an aluminum L extrusion. Slit between the skin and the core to "spot weld" it in with thin CA, or if hollow, figure out how to similarly attach it under the skin. If you like, spray paint the strips first to match the color. - Original Message - From: "Greg Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:00 PM Subject: [RCSE] Flap wiper material > Howdy, > > I am attempting to resurrect a plane that had nice flap and aileron wipers > in the past but now are toast. Where can I get some new curvy wiper > material? > > Thanks, > -- > Greg Smith > Slope Soaring Resource > http://www.slopeflyer.com > > US distributor for Airtech Psychos and Pixels > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Freeware cad program found!
Dudes I got cad standard a while back and paid the $25 or whatever (wasn't much) for the Pro fullfeatured version and it works great for a non "FE" like me Denny Maize Polecat Aeroworks (717) 789-0146 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.polecataero.com";>http://www.polecataero.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] gyro for a HL
AFAIK, the Cirrus MPG-10 with case removed is still the one most people are using... http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/444510.htm It can't be turned on/off or adjusted remotely, but it's small and light (cheap too). At 09:50 PM 1/5/02 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Not that I would ever use one but a flying buddy is inquiring. What is the >gyro of choice and who has em? > >Bruce Davidson >Louisville, KY >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Brett Jaffee: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brett's Slope and Power Home Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee OnTheWay Quake 3 server utility: http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway The Unoffical Extra 300 Home Page: http://bjaffee.tripod.com/extra300/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Flap wiper material
Howdy, I am attempting to resurrect a plane that had nice flap and aileron wipers in the past but now are toast. Where can I get some new curvy wiper material? Thanks, -- Greg Smith Slope Soaring Resource http://www.slopeflyer.com US distributor for Airtech Psychos and Pixels RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Winch motor for sale
How long is the shaft on these? They seems to be the most important reason for using the old Ford starters. Kristopher - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Winch motor for sale > I'd suggest that you go look and find some auto recyclers. Guys who > take cars apart. > You get a motor that was removed from a car and tested. Not rebuilt. I > usually pay about $25 for my Bosch starter motors for F3b winches. I got > one for $10 at one place. Old BMW's, Saabs, and my favorite, Porsche's, > had the 001 311 1xx series motors common on F3b winches. I never looked > for Ford motors because I don't use them. Everyone should build F3b > winches so they are ready when F3j starts using winches. (We can all > dream) > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] OT - All Joy Departed / Death by Carpet (:-)
Ok, just 'cause everybody is so bummed out and all, and yes, it has nothing at all to do with soaring, but here are a few funny / amusing articles "hidden" away on my website. They're not linked to anything so if you want to find any of them again you'll have to bookmark them. A column by Russer Baker in the NYT from '92 about (among other things) "Death by Carpeting" (:-) http://www.airdyn.com/misc/baker1.htm Since the subject of blimps is "in the air", some blimp pictures from Atlanta on Jan 3, 2000. http://www.airdyn.com/misc/atlanta.htm These are from Flight Brothers and cost about $20K each. "How to Talk like a Lawyer" (:-) (with apologies to Tom Nagel and others) http://www.airdyn.com/misc/lawyers.htm Some "election" pictures: http://www.airdyn.com/misc/fla.htm "I Wish I Were in Love Again" (1951, Rodgers & Hart, Frank Sinatra) It's a well-known song that many of you have heard lots and lots of times. However, what I think is funny is that most people "hear" it, but practically none listen carefully enough to catch the quite-funny lyrics like: "When love congeals it soon reveals / The faint aroma of performing seals" Yes, these lines are really in there, and yes, the song is on the "Best of Sinatra" compilation that some of you received for Christmas about 10 years ago and haven't listened to since then. Dig it out and listen for yourself (:-) http://www.airdyn.com/misc/sinatra.htm Oh, heck, why not, there's no reason not to take your fun whenever possible, and even "404 - Not Found" messages can be fun. See: http://www.airdyn.com/misc/ Cheers, Gabe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Forum invasion
Barry Baskin wrote: > Any forum like this will have it's share of people expressing > unpopular views and even tasteless idiocy. That is what I use the delete > button for. I used to feel the same way, but (see below) > I am concerned that any vendor would take the remarks of a few to > represent something mainstream, hopefully they do not all do so and realize > that most of us appreciate their efforts. Unfortunately, Sal's departure brought to mind the old adage about "all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" and while it certainly seemed to me at the time that no defense of Sal or anybody else was required, and in fact it seemed like it would just draw even more unfortunate attention to the whole saga, a few more posts with GET A LIFE! as the subject and the like and/or a couple of private notes of support to Sal might have been useful to express the general note. Cheers, Gabe - who keeps finding ever-more-creative ways to screw up orders. I try to learn from my mistakes and not repeat them (more once or twice), but I do seem to be an unfortunate ability to come up with new ones all the time ... (:-) However, when "stuff" happens I try to fix it at my expense, as soon as possible, and so far I've been able to placate most everybody. Oh, wait, I forget now do you guys want ads on this list? (:-) (:-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Profi 3030 Charging???
Karlton and any other 3030 guru's, I have been charging my 3030 with a HiTec CG335 charger but have been cycling the Tx batteries by leaving the Tx on until the screen goes dead and then charging. I've done this 5 times now as recommended in the manual. The low battery warning came on while I was doing final checks so I put it on the charger, but... Now I'm ready to fly for the first time with this radio today but I can't get the charger light to come on unless I hold down the start button. It is charging when I'm holding down the start button because when I turn the radio back on the volts are higher than before. Anyone have any idea what's going on with this?? And please don't tell me that I need a different charger unless that's the only way out of this box... Any and all assistance greatly appreciated... Joe _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] NYBLIMP ->> Air Dynamics [was PIGGYBACK setup!/ blimp etc]
Hi All, If anybody goes looking at the blimp or the piggyback rig you'll notice that there's some work going on at the site this weekend. I hope to have most of it done by Sunday night and I promise I'll drop a note to the list when it's ready, but in the meantime, please, please DON'T order anything from me with the on-line shopping cart. In spite of the large-type note I've received several orders this week and the shopping cart works ok but there are still some "ragged edges" that need to get cleaned up to eliminate confusions and misunderstandings. Thanks for NOT ordering (:-) Gabe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] RC Blimp?
> Tripp Meister" writes: > > This might be slightly off topic, but I wanted to know if anyone > > here > > has built or knows any information about building a fully > > controllable > > blimp? Not like those cheap little ones in a catalog. Hi Tripp, Please see: http://www.airdyn.com/blimps/MB.htm for the MB1 page. As far as I know Gavin Botha is the only one on RCSE who has has one but I'm not sure I've seen any posts from him lately so may have unsubscribed. Contact me off-list for any questions. Thanks, Gabe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] PIGGYBACK setup
"Brian Joder - OUTBOUND Ind." wrote: > Here is a site that has a ready made piggyback setup > to launch gliders > > http://www.nyblimp.com/ Umm Thanks Brian, but it's actually not ready-made. However there are fairly complete instructions and pictures so you can build one yourself. The concept is really simple and it could be easily modified for use on a Twinstar or other launchers where you may not want to drill holes in the wings. I might make up one of these for use with a TS later this spring but I have no idea when I'll get around to it. Anyway, the rig works really well and by attaching the planes at the CG it makes a lot of stuff simpler but all the advantages are outlined on the page and I won't go into it here. The only hold-up is that the Vortac bomb releases are not available anymore. If you're interested run to your hobby shop and look in the dusty shelves in the back of the store to see if he has any hidden back there. (If he does also buy up any spare release clips available.) The other alternative is Yellow Aircraft (they make large FG IC jets). They have 2 releases, one the size of the Vortac one and the other one almost twice as large. However, while the small one is the same principle / layout / etc as the V, it's also a teeny bit longer so the parts won't interchange. Worse, when YA made the molds, they didn't make them so as to have extra release clips available, so if you break your release clip pins you have to buy a whole new release. The clips don't really break all that often and the price is still pretty low but the sheer wastefulness of having to do this would bug me . I like weird / interesting aircraft. If anybody really wants to make one of these and has a subject that might tickle my funny bone I happen to have a few Vortacs set aside and may be talked into parting with one or two of them. (Please note that these are not a stock sale item, these are my own private stock, and you'd really have to "sell" me into parting with them.) Please let me know if you have any questions about the release. Cheers, Gabe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Mother's advice
I'm sure that this delicately composed note will get the point across (?) Maybe you should follow some of your own advise :-) Dan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > She said "If you don't have something nice to say, then don't say > anything" > > As I have done so many times, I will go against my dear Mom's advice, > though I feel this exchange really needs to follow it! > > Vendor bashers: shut your stupid uninformed mouths. > DJ Aerotech has been making and selling some of the finest RC > aircraft > in USA since before most of you knew what "RC" stands for. > Because of the venomous comments of but a few dumbass tyros, > DJ has nearly quit the business. Who might be next? If Sal quits > then > more than half the cool shit GOES AWAY COMPLETELY. Is that what > you want in the long run? > > "me too" message posters: you shut up, too. You waste bags of > bandwidth, > dilute meaningful threads, and just generally annoy those who really > want > information and advice. This forum is NOT a chat room. > > As just mentioned, RCSE is at at all-time low, quality wise. I have > been here > about 6 1/2 years, and the word "delete" is worn off of my delete > key. I > don't > have much time to fly RC gliders any more, but still enjoy following > the news > and latest technology in the RC world, so will continue to lurk on > RCSE and > add > my very occasional positive input (current diatribe notwithstanding). > You post baby-boom generation X short attention span worthless > defective > P.O.S. > jerks with computers know who you are, so get with the program, LEARN > > something > useful about aviation. Read some books or something, and shut the > f--k up. > > Mark Navarre > (yes, hangar fever is getting to me) > > - > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send > "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] PIGGYBACK setup!
On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Brian Joder - OUTBOUND Ind. wrote: > Here is a site that has a ready made piggyback setup > to launch gliders... same site as the blimp! > > http://www.nyblimp.com/ Hey! Coool! That's sone really neat stuff! -J > > BKJ > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Whatchabuildin?
I am building an old ASW-19 (kit) I purchased from a friend and frllow flyer and I have an Airtronics, Thermal-Eagle. I would like to use a gyro in these planes to keep the wings level when landing. My reflexes are no longer sharp nor acute.(redundent) Would someone, who is knowledgable ,please advise as to type and mfg. Also, I do not have a lot of money to spend for this item, ($100.00/$200.00). I hope my request does not offend the GRAMMAR FREAKS who patrol the digest for TRIVIA to screech about, such as TYPOS ETC. Thank you for any advise and help. Virg Barker
Re: [RCSE] Re: What is a Rahm winch?
--- silentfilght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would anyone happen to have plans for building a winch? You can get nice ones at: http://members.aol.com/laserartco/page13.htm Be sure you have your speakers on when you access the page. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F3B Why? (Soaring related)
The Eagle was a nice model in it's day. The basic design is the same vintage as the Ellipse 1T. Fortunately for Joe and Daryl, they were better at setting up the model and Joes understanding of launch mechanics was better than the Europeans. The Ellipse 2V is probably a better model. By that time, Joe was flying modified Eagles that had some tip extensions to improve distance performance. Now you have awesome launches that don't look as awesome because of the bigger models and 14 second speed runs that don't look fast because of the bigger models. With no lift, the Eagle could easily do 16, 17 laps in distance. Ellipse 1T's could do 16, 2V's could do 17, Cobras (now old technology) could do 18. Current models are in the 19-20 range. >From what I have heard about the last WC site, it really didn't demonstrate some of the speeds and laps that the new models are capable of doing. It was a large, cool patch of green surrounded by brown. Kind of kills lift closer to the launch area. The RG15 still works pretty well. Especially for less experienced pilots. If you screw up your attitude in speed with an MH32 model, or a HQ/W model and have to push down elevator, you can watch the drag go up and see the model really slow down. The RG15 was more tolerant of those kind of mistakes. The extra $$$ comes from building all carbon models. Lightweight carbon cloth is expensive. It you could get lighter carbon cloth for the skins, the models could be even lighter, but who knows what they could cost then. Wing stiffness in bending and torsion does make a difference on launch and in flight. > LesandGypsy Stockley wrote: > > Was talking with some people at our Nats the other week and we > starting talking about how the RG15 is still a good F3B airfoil, then > we got onto the latest designs and the performance you could expect > from them. I started wondering if we really have come a long way > since the early '90's when the F3B Eagle reigned supreme. Joe Wurts > visited us down here in NZ and showed us 16 second speed runs and > awesome launches that I doubt are being bettered by much today. With > the launch heights available the 10 minute duration task shouldnt be a > great problem. > So, why are we flying larger models with higher cambered airfoils and > a seemingly higher value (especially when you try to freight to > NZ, $300-400 is not uncommon) when the models of nearly 10 years ago > have the same or similar performance??? > Any ideas or reasoning out there, Daryl, Joe? What am I missing > here? > Cheers, Les. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Winch motor for sale
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyone should build F3b > winches so they are ready when F3j starts using winches. (We can all > dream) or stocking up on hot electric motors so they are ready when F3J switches to F5J. (I'm allus dreamin') -- Stephen Syrotiak Building Service Southern Connecticut RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Soar Utah 2002 !!
Count me in Tom! You guys put on a great event! Can you promise the same wind we had in 2000? Please? What a time. Cliff Lindgren - Original Message - From: "Tom Hoopes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:37 PM Subject: [RCSE] Soar Utah 2002 !! > Hi All, > > Gosh two posts in a night, what is this world coming to? > > I just got word from our new club president (Scott Marshall) this evening, > that we are definitely "ON" for hosting the 4th Soar Utah. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Riser100 airfoil
I believe that it was a bit thickened eppler 205. Marc -Original Message- From: Kenneth Boothe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Riser100 airfoil Out of curiosity, does anyone know what airfoil the Sig Riser 100 has? Thanks Kenny RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
