Re: [RCSE] Yet more questions.

2002-06-09 Thread FRED SAGE

Bill;

There was a series of articles run several years ago in the Torrey Pines Gulls (TPG) 
newsletter.  One article in particular would answer all your landing questions and 
probably some you've never considered. These articles were extremely well received at 
the time and were reprinted  in numerous club newsletters and magazine articles.  You 
can access the articles at the TPG web site at www.torreypinesgull.org/  Go to the 
reference section and find the article titled "The Art of Landing" under the "Sage 
Advice" column.

Fred

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[RCSE] For Sale

2002-06-09 Thread tomfski

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 $525.00 Includes shipping to CONUS.

Airtronics Stylus with Airtronics 92085 receiver and 110v wall charger
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Re: [RCSE] Most fun plane?

2002-06-09 Thread widlerj


My fovorite is my current one, the Dizzy Bird by the much missed 
Thermal Gromit Works. To see a picture of a common example why go to
 
http://www.pacificsites.com/~wid/personal/widspage3.html

Can't wait to get my XP3!

Wid

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Re: [RCSE] The Naked Sailplanist

2002-06-09 Thread David A. Enete

>It brings to mind a mental picture of a statue, the heroic glider flier, a
>sort of Michelangeo's "David" with DLG and Fig Leaf.

Sounds familiar...but I've seen this before.

http://enete.org/david/soaring/greek-sidewinder.jpg


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Re: [RCSE] "Low" DLG costs; was "High" DLG costs

2002-06-09 Thread David A. Enete

>  It could be something like :
>   59 inches max
>   maximum material cost :20$
>   no carbon, FG, Kevlar
>   no gyros and no programming
>
>Just think about how much fun it is to fly
>Zagi/Boomerang slope planes. It would be fun to
>develop and have access to new cheap and tough
>HLG/DHLG planes that we would not fear flying in
>any conditions. It could also be a great way to
>start new flyers.

You should consider the Apogee by Mark Drela.  The wooden wing 
version might just suit your needs.  But it uses a kite spar for a 
tailboom.  Sorry it doesn't fit your requirements above.  Maybe you 
could carve your plane out of maple?

See the Charles River RC web site for the plans, etc.

http://www.charlesriverrc.org/articles/apogeehlg/markdrela_apogeehlg.htm

- David
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[RCSE] Wing wanted for a MANTIS open size....

2002-06-09 Thread kevflys

Yes, I need a Mantis wing! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: [RCSE] Wet Rx

2002-06-09 Thread David A. Enete

>What I would recommend is a thorough rinsing with
>clean water before you dry it out.

Distilled water if you have it.  Fewer minerals to do bad things.

- David
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[RCSE] Re: Most fun plane

2002-06-09 Thread Tord

Must say the Mongo Jr rates high in my book,
if a little too big for my car :-(!

The planes that taught me most was the Zagi THL
and the DAW S1-26 HLG, as they improved my flying skills
a gigantic step forward, and also survived most crashes,
without any damage at all. 

Now I didn't  hesitate to return to flying a complex four-engined plane
after a year's absence from the sport - that would never have been 
possible without the endless row of sorry hops and successful flights 
I have done with these three types.

Others, more or less successful:

original Zagi Razor (similar to the 3C).
G.P. Spirit
G.P. ElectriCub, wore out!
Flair Attila, in the end using the ElectriCub's wing!
Clancy Aviation Lazy Bee, a few :-)!

Aerofoam Vulcan
Studio 'B' Vulcan

DAW S1-26 2m, stolen.
DAW  Dragonette MLG, still flying as a kid's freeflight toy!
DAW Extra

Plus a heap of others, powered, and not!


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[RCSE] Help!

2002-06-09 Thread Tord

Does ordinary hot glue stick to aluminium well enough
for gluing a sparcap to a spar to a main spar?

The lower sparcap will be CF and I do know it sticks to
CF pretty well!

In short the spar looks like this: total outer measurements
100x 20 mm (including caps), the upper cap being 3 x 10 mm
soft aluminium, and the lower five CF rods, approx. 1 mm diameter,
and eight thick strands of CF fibres. 

This is for my Ka6E project, of course!

Tord


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[RCSE] Three Things I Learned at the Field Today

2002-06-09 Thread Tom H. Nagel


We had a big turnout at the MOSS field this afternoon, old stalwlarts, 
lost souls returning, new faces, kids, flying everything from free flight 
to DLG to high tech unlimited to electric park flyers.

So here's three things I learned at the field today:

1.  If your stick isn't just the right size, the motor from the pico stick 
may come unstuck from the nose of your Chrysalis HLG, and part company with 
the plane without further notice.

2.   Flying a Chrysalis HLG with the CG way the hell too far back is a 
challenging experience.

3.   Chip Willis was trying to sort out his new DLG, and was on one side of 
the field urging his plane "go up, baby, go up!"   Dave Willey, a new 
member and a free flighter was on the other side of the filed urging one of 
his stick and tissue models  " Come Down!   Come Down, Baby!!"  That  is 
the essential difference between RC sailplaners and freeflighters.

Hope you all had an equally fun weekend.

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Re: [RCSE] Most fun plane?

2002-06-09 Thread Jeff Reid

Similar to other post, the DAW 1-26 2m. My favorite slope
model. Lots of fun, no stress...

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[RCSE] Question For Those Who Bag There Own and a Off Topic Computer Help/Question

2002-06-09 Thread Bill & Rose Haymaker

I bagged a set of full flying stabs @ 3 months ago. I used Krylon (yellow)
on waxed Mylar's. Painted the Mylar's and let set overnight then bagged.

The problem is, this weekend was one of the first weekends the tail had any
long term exposure to direct sun and I noticed in two or three places there
is what looks like small bubble like delamination @ 3/8"w x 3/4"l.

Anyone know why this may have happened and how to prevent it from happening
again in the future? I did use toilet paper and a roller to blot any excess
epoxy, could I have remove too much? The wing on this plane was made by Phil
Barns and I am fairly certain he used the same paint.


*Computer Help*

Can one of you computer experts advise me on how to get my new Dell 8200
(Window XP, home addition Os) ,which doesn't seem to like the Ethernet card,
to work with my old Gateway (Windows 98 Os) system, which seems to have no
problem with the Ethernet card.
I called Dells support and they tell me they don't support the Ethernet card
which seems funny since they installed it.

Thanks

Bill

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Re: [RCSE] Yet more questions.

2002-06-09 Thread Rick and Jill

Just spent the last two days flying two ESL contests in Lancaster PA. One
day contest on Sat. and one on Sun. We flew a 9 round contest on Sat and an
8 round contest Sun. Oh Yeah, BTW, Gordy was there and we kick his butt
again this year. Thanks for coming out to play Gordy.

There are many different TE configurations for launch. What works for one
plane may not be right for another. Usually less droop in a good head wind
and less line speed. The headwind will do most of the work. In a tail wind
more line tension and speed. Some keep the TE clean till they get up some
initial speed and then come out with more TE droop after establishing the
climb. Others start out with lots of TE down. Try them out and see what
works for you and your plane.

Landings. Years ago it was more common to make a steep, short approach.
These usually ended up in a semi dork. Sometimes breaking things and
generally not looking too nice.

These days most competent flyers come in from farther out and at a slower
speed and lesser angle. Final legs are usually 200 to 300 feet and take
approx 15 to 20 seconds. Usually starting a downwind leg at 30 seconds left
carrying some speed while descending from approx 100 feet or less, and then
starting a turn onto final at about 20 seconds left and heading back at 15
seconds left. Maybe 50 feet high at the final turn and then gradually lose
altitude on the way in and try to get the speed down low by the time you are
at the spot. Makes for a nicer more controlled landing and is easier on the
airframe.

In more of a head wind you can adjust to carry more altitude so you don't
get caught short. More wind helps you slow down much quicker. Watch out you
don't come on the flaps too early in heavier wind as you will bleed all your
airspeed off way too soon and end up short.

In a tailwind landing you have to make a shallower approach than normal and
start bleeding off speed earlier in the final leg or you'll over shoot or
have to really dork it in to hit the spot, and take the chance of damaging
the plane in the process.

Hope this helps.

Later...
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Johns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 6:07 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Yet more questions.


> Greetings!
>
> I'm just full of questions.  Today, I have questions on launching and
> landing techniques.
>
> 1.  Given a "standard" trailing edge/elevator setting for a calm day, how
> do you alter this for a good head wind?  Tail wind?  How else do you
change
> your launch for head or tail wind launches?
>
> 2.  How long are you on final??  5 sec?  10 sec?  20 sec?
>
> 3.  When you are 50 feet away from where you hope/expect the airplane to
be
> motionless on the ground, how high are you??  How about at 100 feet?
>
> (I ask these landing question because I just spent a good bit of time
> watching folks who know what they are doing.  When they are just fooling
> around, most come in very shallow with a long time on final and are quite
> slow before touchdown.  During competition they come in very fast, in a
> steep angle of descent after being on final a very short period of
> time.  I'm wondering why?)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> --
> Never test the depth of the water with both feet.
>
> Bill Johns
> Pullman, WA
>
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Re: [RCSE] The Naked Sailplanist

2002-06-09 Thread Snhrccsec

Beware the CA, keep the debonder handy!
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Re: [RCSE] Most fun plane?

2002-06-09 Thread Gordon Braun-Woodbury

Skybench Lil Bird 2.  Nothing I have flown so far shows lift better -- and
it's so darn pretty!



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[RCSE] Yet more questions.

2002-06-09 Thread Bill Johns

Greetings!

I'm just full of questions.  Today, I have questions on launching and 
landing techniques.

1.  Given a "standard" trailing edge/elevator setting for a calm day, how 
do you alter this for a good head wind?  Tail wind?  How else do you change 
your launch for head or tail wind launches?

2.  How long are you on final??  5 sec?  10 sec?  20 sec?

3.  When you are 50 feet away from where you hope/expect the airplane to be 
motionless on the ground, how high are you??  How about at 100 feet?

(I ask these landing question because I just spent a good bit of time 
watching folks who know what they are doing.  When they are just fooling 
around, most come in very shallow with a long time on final and are quite 
slow before touchdown.  During competition they come in very fast, in a 
steep angle of descent after being on final a very short period of 
time.  I'm wondering why?)

Thanks,

Bill

--
Never test the depth of the water with both feet.

Bill Johns
Pullman, WA

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