[RCSE] Visalia Shooting Victim

2002-10-13 Thread Tom Hoopes

Hi All,

I was busy with work at the end of last week while the "Visalia shoot down" thread 
ran. I have a bit of first hand information to add.

First let me say, that I've attended CVRC's Fall Festival every year since 1991 and 
have always had fun, been impressed with the "tight ship" that they run, and have 
never been shot down, not even on practice day, until this year.

I decided to fly 2 meter this year just for the heck of it and I planned to fly my 
Image as my primary and my SuperV-2M as my backup. Practice day was non-eventful, but 
on Saturday morning, my Image's Airtronics "blue cube" receiver was going nuts with 
apparent radio glitching. I decided to fly my SuperV-2M rather than risk a loss of my 
Image. The weather turned out to be perfect "SuperV" conditions as most lift during my 
rounds was wind-free and very close.

During the last, eight minute round of Saturday, I picked up a nice little HLG size 
thermal off launch and my SuperV doubled launch height in short order. The thermal 
drifted past the landing zone and continued to build. At five minutes into the flight, 
I was at a stupid high altitude, questioning the wisdom of even blinking. Without 
warning, my plane nosed up violently and I thought that the core must be awesome to 
knock me so hard. Quickly, I realized that I had no control and all attempts to get 
things back under control failed. I had checked my battery before the round, so I 
ruled that out and began yelling out my frequency as I pulled full flaps and attempted 
to regain control with different antenna angles.

The plane could not have been pointed in a more perfect vertical line as it barreled 
into the plowed field from well over 1,000 feet. Someone was standing at the corner of 
the field with a handheld scanner that had the R/C channels programmed and he had 
punched in my channel that I had been calling out. With my radio now turned off, there 
was a solid R/C signal on my channel. With the radio placed against a carbon wing to 
add a bit of directionality, the culprit seemed to be around the transmitter impound. 
I asked my timer to stay with the group that had formed while I was driven out into 
the field to retrieve my plane.


As one would guess, my flawless SuperV was no more. Every servo broken, receiver 
smashed, battery flattened, fuselage toast, wings destroyed, but the Hoopes wing 
connectors were still intact ;-) On my way back to the field, they began calling my 
name over the loudspeaker.

Larry Taylor and Ed Hipp from CVRC were standing at the impound with a look of great 
displeasure. They indicated that a transmitter had been accidently let out without a 
frequency pin, on my channel. Apparently, impound had released the radio without a pin 
and the pilot had turned on without the pin. The standard operational procedure had 
failed even though it had worked and worked successfully for a long time. I 
appreciated the clubs' forthrightness as they offered to pay for my loss. I made a few 
concessions and we arrived at a fair price for the lost plane. I really just wanted my 
SuperV back, but that wasn't an option.

Since I was shot down at five minutes into an eight minute round, they decided to have 
me fly a three minute precision flight at the end of the day. I had changed out the 
Airtronics receiver in my Image and replaced it with a Hitec Super Slim, but by the 
time that I got to the winches at the end of the day to fly the three minute flight, 
the equipment crew had already stripped all of the retriever lines to replace them for 
the next day. I was concerned that the plastic tubing and the small ring on the winch 
line may not release smoothly without the drag of the retriever line. Sure enough, the 
line hung up on the tow hook and the attempt to zoom failed to release the line. I 
dropped the flaps and flew tight circles around the line all the way to the ground. My 
timer ran back to the pits and grabbed the chute off my own winch in the pits and Tim 
Renaud tied it on the winch line and the launch went off without further problems. 
BTW, my Image performed perfectly on the second day.

During the twelve hour ride home, I had plenty of time to consider some technical 
solutions that might help prevent a similar situation from occurring again. The 
solution would assist by physically inventorying as well as monitoring RF signals of 
incoming as well as outgoing radios in the impound area without complicating or 
slowing the normal process. I've conveyed the possible solutions on to the CVRC group 
for their input.

I certainly felt that I had been put through the wringer, but a few days after I  
returned home from Visalia, I found that I had received a double hosing. For some 
unexplainable reason, in the scoring, I had been moved to OPEN class even though I had 
flown EVERY flight with a 2 meter. In fact, my accumulative score was 45 points higher 
than the pilot who was awarded the third place trophy in 2 meters. Bad 
karma..

[RCSE] RE: 4-motor indoor plane.

2002-10-13 Thread DLAWriter2
This a a rather bad example of engineering.  The size of the flies are not specified and under-power or overpower on one wing could doom the plane to fly in circles.  Also, since flies are know to take of backwards, is there a more exact measurement as to how far their little butts should overhang the trailing edge?

I sincerely hope that younger or less sophisticated flyers will not take this design seriously.  I would fear that some gung-ho experimenter might produce a scaled-up version using pigeons or sea gulls for power.  And worse, there would always be some giant-scale enthusiast splitting a fence post and considering the use of turkey vultures for propulsion.  Where would it all end?  I wonder if there is a branch of PETA that works with flies?

Cheers

Don


[RCSE] JR 8103DT TX For Sale on Ebay

2002-10-13 Thread Pat McCleave

Hi Guys,

I have a JR 8103DT TX with Module, Charger and Manual for sale on Ebay right
now that ends in less than 24 hours.  The reserve has been met and the
current price is just $225.00.

See Ya,

Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS

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RE: [RCSE] Airline travel costs

2002-10-13 Thread John Derstine

Fedex ground is very cheap, 1/8" luan ply on the inside or outside of carton
mail sailplane to a friend.
How about those Ski tubes? Snow board Tubes? Are they now extra? being that
they are specifically designed for air travel. I did read that they are
cracking down on those oversized suitcases because of weight issues, just
wondered if it meant sport stuff also.
JD

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I was just reading an article in todays New York Times. It looks like
almost everyone has gone down to two checked bags and raised the rates
for any additional bags or overweight or oversized bags to $80.

Last year you got 3 bags and it wasn't that hard to get something
oversized on for nothing.  But it looks like things are going to be much
more expensive in the future.
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[RCSE] Looking for Lex Mierop from TOSS

2002-10-13 Thread Flying High

Paging Lex, please get in touch with me...
Thanks
Edgar
"The Soaring Junkie"


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[RCSE] Airline travel costs

2002-10-13 Thread mikel

I was just reading an article in todays New York Times. It looks like
almost everyone has gone down to two checked bags and raised the rates
for any additional bags or overweight or oversized bags to $80.  

Last year you got 3 bags and it wasn't that hard to get something
oversized on for nothing.  But it looks like things are going to be much
more expensive in the future.
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