[RCSE] Re: rcsd free sample pdf

[MSu1049321]

I'm only able to see a few pages before my dialup connection times out and I 
lose it. Trying to download it first, it similarly chokes, and becomes 
unopenable. Could somebody witha  DSL connection shoot me the .pdf attached to a 
one-word e-mail? TIA.

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Re: [RCSE] Bottom hinged, top actuated flaps, Why?

[Y C Lui]

I think the prime reason of using top actuated arrangement is to reduce the amount of protrusion on the wing surface and hence cut down the drag . On my Pike WR, the end of the control horn for the flap is flush with the top surface of the wing. The length of the control horn is equal to the thickness of the front part of the flap so the entire horn can be buried inside the wing. I can show some photos if you are interested.
With bottom actuated arrangement, there are bound to be some protrusion unless the control horn has zero length. 
Y C LuiSteve Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Why do the designers go with bottom hinged, but top actuated flaps? Whycomplicate things on setup geometry and cutting holes in wings.Isn't a bottom hinged, bottom actuated flap just as effective and easier toinstall?(Spell check completed ! )RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.Do You Yahoo!?Get your free @yahoo.com.hk address at Yahoo! Mail.

[RCSE] Coverite 21st Century Fabric

[Ed Jett]

Anyone have a small piece of white coverite 21st century fabric to use for a
repair?  I'll pay the postage.  8-1/2" by 11" is plenty.  I can use an even
smaller piece if your remnant isn't that large.

Thanks in Advance,
Ed Jett


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[RCSE] Organic For Sale

[George Voss]

It's time to start practicing for the new season, and thoughts of the Nat's
come to mind.  'Better be prepared for the 2M class with the plane that is
arguably the best 2M around!  I've got an excellent condition Organic 2M.
No radio.  The plane has been flown, but there are no 2M contests near here
and my health prevents me from attending the Nat's.  $400+ shipping.  As
usual, first come, first served.

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Re: [RCSE] Bottom hinged, top actuated flaps, Why?

[Harley Michaelis]

Steve. . .if less drag is the reason bottom hinged flaps are top actuated,
it makes a case for using the Rotary Driver System, as Bob Pope says,  if
possible. The RDS for flaps works perfectly if bottom hinged and. . . .
nothing hangs out at all to cut drag.

The flap servos, however, do have to be oriented at 45 degrees to the
hingeline and if servo wells are molded in for use with traditional linkage
of a horn and pushrod, then the RDS can't be used without some innovation.

A source for info on the RDS is in the RDS website
www.proptwisters.org/rds2/ . However, since I put that together, I have also
created the GENIE CD which has even better material on it than the website.
The GENIE CD is $5 postpaid in the US and $7 outside the US. It is a huge
resource for various practical, modeler-related things I've picked up over
35 years in R/C. 26 S. Roosevelt, Walla Walla, WA. 99362
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Subject: [RCSE] Bottom hinged, top actuated flaps, Why?


> Why do the designers go with bottom hinged, but top actuated flaps?  Why
> complicate things on setup geometry and cutting holes in wings.
> Isn't a bottom hinged, bottom actuated flap just as effective and easier
to
> install?
>
> (Spell check completed ! )
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Re: [RCSE] Bottom hinged, top actuated flaps, Why?

[Bob Pope]

Less Drag would be an RDS system, get rid of those big ole tunnels.
BP
Ben Diss wrote:

Less drag.

Steve Gibson wrote:

Why do the designers go with bottom hinged, but top actuated flaps?  Why
complicate things on setup geometry and cutting holes in wings.
Isn't a bottom hinged, bottom actuated flap just as effective and 
easier to
install?

(Spell check completed ! )

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Re: [RCSE] Bottom hinged, top actuated flaps, Why?

[Ben Diss]

Less drag.

Steve Gibson wrote:

Why do the designers go with bottom hinged, but top actuated flaps?  Why
complicate things on setup geometry and cutting holes in wings.
Isn't a bottom hinged, bottom actuated flap just as effective and easier to
install?
(Spell check completed ! )

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RE: [RCSE] FREE issue of RCSD!

[Aradhana Singh Khalsa]

>I'd be willing to pay fair value for
a complete set of all back issues on CD in PDF format.  Think how fast you
could search for a specific article or general topics.<

Bill has it exactly right. Electronic format would be my preferred choice,
too.

Searchable digest of past years: If this idea has traction, then remember to
use Acrobat's feature "Acrobat Catalog" to create a full-text index of the
entire document collection. Options are available for Case Sensitive, Sounds
Like, and Word Stemming. See the file Acrohelp.pdf for details.

Alas, you cannot copy a picture of Gordy out of an Acrobat file for digital
manipulation. For that, publishing to HTML via RoboHelp or using a standard
HTML building environment like DreamWeaver plus a web search engine tool is
required. I mention RoboHelp because it can build the HTML and the indexes
automatically.

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[RCSE] Need wiring harness diagram

[Steve Gibson]

Is there a website with an illustration of a four servo wing (two ailerons
and two flaps) wiring harness diagram?

I've decided to try and make my own.
Thanks,
S Gibson


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Re: [RCSE] FREE issue of RCSD!

[Jack Strother]

Thank you for the link..
it is worth the effort,
Jack



At 12:19 PM 2/28/2004, you wrote:
RCSE members,

Gordy has talked almost incessantly about RC Soaring Digest and all of the 
cool stuff published therein each month. OK, here's your chance to get a 
FREE issue and see what he's been talking about!

Simply go to  and 
you'll be able to directly download a PDF version of the January 2004 
issue of RCSD from a link on that page.

The PDF file is just 1053K in size, so even if you're on a 28.8/56K 
dial-up account, like we are, the download time should be just a few minutes.

This PDF issue contains seven articles, one of which is sure to pique your 
interest. As an added bonus, there's color photography, not available in 
the printed version.

If you enjoy this free, full color, PDF version of RCSD, the articles, and
the ability to download it on-line, drop a quick line to the RCSD folks at
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Your comments would be appreciated.
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[RCSE] Bottom hinged, top actuated flaps, Why?

[Steve Gibson]

Why do the designers go with bottom hinged, but top actuated flaps?  Why
complicate things on setup geometry and cutting holes in wings.
Isn't a bottom hinged, bottom actuated flap just as effective and easier to
install?

(Spell check completed ! )


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Re: [RCSE] FREE issue of RCSD!

[Bill]

At 11:26 AM 2/28/2004, Chuck Anderson wrote:
Yeah but how do I file the PDF copy with all the other issues I have on my
book shelf.
You print off only the articles you desire and bind them in any manner you 
wish.  Even with the very best of monthly publications, I don't necessarily 
want to keep the whole thing.  After a couple of years of saving mags, you 
end up with large pile of paper 75% or more of which is of no long term 
interest.  You can save the PDF files on a CD and still have access to 
EVERYTHING.

For the record, having a huge pile of ALL the past issues of RCSD is 
absolutely nothing that turns me on.  I'd be willing to pay fair value for 
a complete set of all back issues on CD in PDF format.  Think how fast you 
could search for a specific article or general topics.  Think of getting 
data and graphs and just storing them in a manner relevant to your specific 
needs.  Think how much fun it would be getting your hands on digital pics 
of Gordy and working them over with Photoshop!  ;-)

And I have every issue ever printed. I could care less about
photographs.  Let me have drawings, graphs, and real data.  Pictures are
just eye candy and tell me nothing.  Let me have the engineering data.
Yep.  I like real data too, AND the convenience of storing it 
efficiently.  What data are you wishing that is not in the .PDF format RCSD 
that is in the hard copy???

It might be nice to have the option of hard copy or .PDF.  After all, 
variety is the spice of life.  We don't ALL like skegs now do we (running 
for my NOMEX undies)?  ;-)

Cheers,

Bill 

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Re: [RCSE] FREE issue of RCSD!

[Chuck Anderson]

Yeah but how do I file the PDF copy with all the other issues I have on my
book shelf.  And I have every issue ever printed. I could care less about
photographs.  Let me have drawings, graphs, and real data.  Pictures are
just eye candy and tell me nothing.  Let me have the engineering data.

Chuck Anderson



At 10:26 AM 2/28/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>
>I dunno about the rest of you folks, but I found this a most pleasant way 
>to read about soaring.  I prefer this format to the hard copy.   I like the 
>color pictures and the articles are most interesting.  Yeah, there was a 
>picture of Gordy and all but hey.  ;-)
>
>I sent the nice folks at RCSD a note thanking them for this free issue and 
>encouraging the formal development of an Emagazine.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Bill 
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Re: [RCSE] FREE issue of RCSD!

[Bill]

At 09:19 AM 2/28/2004, Bill & Bunny Kuhlman wrote:
RCSE members,

Gordy has talked almost incessantly about RC Soaring Digest and all of the 
cool stuff published therein each month. OK, here's your chance to get a 
FREE issue and see what he's been talking about!

Simply go to  and 
you'll be able to directly download a PDF version of the January 2004 
issue of RCSD from a link on that page.
I dunno about the rest of you folks, but I found this a most pleasant way 
to read about soaring.  I prefer this format to the hard copy.   I like the 
color pictures and the articles are most interesting.  Yeah, there was a 
picture of Gordy and all but hey.  ;-)

I sent the nice folks at RCSD a note thanking them for this free issue and 
encouraging the formal development of an Emagazine.

Cheers,

Bill 

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[RCSE] FREE issue of RCSD!

[Bill & Bunny Kuhlman]

RCSE members,

Gordy has talked almost incessantly about RC Soaring Digest and all 
of the cool stuff published therein each month. OK, here's your 
chance to get a FREE issue and see what he's been talking about!

Simply go to  and 
you'll be able to directly download a PDF version of the January 2004 
issue of RCSD from a link on that page.

The PDF file is just 1053K in size, so even if you're on a 28.8/56K 
dial-up account, like we are, the download time should be just a few 
minutes.

This PDF issue contains seven articles, one of which is sure to pique 
your interest. As an added bonus, there's color photography, not 
available in the printed version.

If you enjoy this free, full color, PDF version of RCSD, the articles, and
the ability to download it on-line, drop a quick line to the RCSD folks at
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Your comments would be appreciated.
--
B^2B2Streamlines.com
Bill & Bunny Kuhlman   'a resource for aircraft modelers'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.O. Box 975http://www.b2streamlines.com
Olalla WA 98359-0975 USA
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