Re: [RCSE] Optimized thermal planes
Mike- What kind of spare parts do you think should be kept on hand? Just curious. -Ben Mike Remus wrote: I would choose exactly the same plane as Keith for the same reasons. I would buy two of them and spare parts to support them. That way you can expect to fly them for many years without being shut down waiting for parts. The longer you fly a good airplane, the better you will become with it. I don't consider PRACTICE to be a chore. Flying a great glider is fun. Mike Remus LOFT Glider Club Fort Wayne IN LSF Level 5 On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 12:50:16 -0400 "Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Launching and Thermalling: a 3.7m Sharon, of course and if you just set up your landing early and consistently, you can be very competitive there as well!! It's been awhile since I've flown TD or any sailplane at all for that matter, but I'm going to get back into it, and my weapon of choice will be the Sharon. The last time I flew TD was in 2000, and both at Pasadena and at Visalia, I was told by the winchmasters to back off because I was pulling so hard I was burning up the winches. In one contest, in the first early morning round with foggy, misting conditions and no appreciable wind, I launched hard enough to make an 8 minute time without trying very hard. Just flew one big square pattern over the field. With the combo RG-15/7037 airfoil, big span and high aspect ration, it flies very efficeintly and penetrates well in even moderate winds, which is good because it doesn't have provisions for ballast unless you modify it. Making time is a non-issue by comparison with many other models out there. It IS big, so for you guys that tend to do a lot of maneuvering in close when going for your landing, it will push you to become much more consistent in your approaches and get set up properly much earlier. And it's heavier, with all that that implies, simply because of it's sheer size. That will affect landings also, and again requires more skill and lower landing speeds at the tape. Which brings me back to what John Erickson posted earlier. He really hits the nail on the head there. It's YOU, the pilot, that makes the real difference! Skill can't be bought with a particular airplane. Guys like Joe and Daryl have proven time and again that they can win with almost anything, but I also know for a fact that they fly more than most and have put more time into the hobby than most. If you don't push your personal "envelope" then you'll never get any better. The "fastest" plane does not always win the race on the slopes for example. A pilot who's smooth on the sticks, flies the straightest course in the best lift zone and maintains energy better in the turns will usually win if he has at least a competitive plane. Soaring is much like that. Knowing your plane and being consistent will do more for you than chasing after the latest and greatest every season or two. Keith McLellan Bizjet driver "Go really, really fast... and turn left!" RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] XP9303 manual link
Does anyone know the difference in switch layout between the Airplane and Sailplane version? John Diniz wrote: For those asking for the new JR XP9303 radio manual follow the link to the PDF on Horizon's website. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Manuals.aspx?ProdID=JRP9260** Regards, John Diniz RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Drela's servo mounting system
Since mentioning last night about 10 o'clock that I'd put info on Mark's system on the Genie web pages, over 200 hits have been made. To me that is just amazing, It shows that many are still really interested in learning how to do new things for themselves and that is gratifying to know. How great it is to have websites and the Internet to pass on all this original stuff that others, like Mark, will so carefully work out and then generously tell us all about it. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] XP9303 manual link
From a quick browse through the manual, it looks like the 9303 borrowed the already excellent programming for the 10x and made templates for the glider guys, making some things real straight forward now. I could be using this thing in minutes it looks so familiar! Yet retaining much from what I know from my 10x, 8103 and 783 from the past. I need to get back to work, more careful reading this evening... 8-) At 01:23 PM 9/1/2004, James V. Bacus wrote: Excellent... thank you John for your continuing support! Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] XP9303 manual link
At 11:39 AM 9/1/2004, George Voss wrote: John, thanks for posting the link. I'm sure many of us will be getting 9303's when they become available. I dunno. Maybe not. The instruction manual says you should not fly higher than 400 feet altitude. I think I need a transmitter from a company that is comfortable with altitudes higher than that. ;-) Cheers, Bill Johns Colton, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] XP9303 manual link
John, thanks for posting the link. I'm sure many of us will be getting 9303's when they become available. gv -Original Message- From: John Diniz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] XP9303 manual link For those asking for the new JR XP9303 radio manual follow the link to the PDF on Horizon's website. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Manuals.aspx?ProdID=JRP9 260** Regards, John Diniz RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Optimized thermal planes
I would choose exactly the same plane as Keith for the same reasons. I would buy two of them and spare parts to support them. That way you can expect to fly them for many years without being shut down waiting for parts. The longer you fly a good airplane, the better you will become with it. I don't consider PRACTICE to be a chore. Flying a great glider is fun. Mike Remus LOFT Glider Club Fort Wayne IN LSF Level 5 On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 12:50:16 -0400 "Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Launching and Thermalling: a 3.7m Sharon, of course and if you > just > set up your landing early and consistently, you can be very > competitive > there as well!! It's been awhile since I've flown TD or any > sailplane at > all for that matter, but I'm going to get back into it, and my > weapon of > choice will be the Sharon. > > The last time I flew TD was in 2000, and both at Pasadena and at > Visalia, I > was told by the winchmasters to back off because I was pulling so > hard I was > burning up the winches. In one contest, in the first early morning > round > with foggy, misting conditions and no appreciable wind, I launched > hard > enough to make an 8 minute time without trying very hard. Just flew > one big > square pattern over the field. With the combo RG-15/7037 airfoil, > big span > and high aspect ration, it flies very efficeintly and penetrates > well in > even moderate winds, which is good because it doesn't have > provisions for > ballast unless you modify it. Making time is a non-issue by > comparison with > many other models out there. It IS big, so for you guys that tend > to do a > lot of maneuvering in close when going for your landing, it will > push you to > become much more consistent in your approaches and get set up > properly much > earlier. And it's heavier, with all that that implies, simply > because of > it's sheer size. That will affect landings also, and again requires > more > skill and lower landing speeds at the tape. Which brings me back to > what > John Erickson posted earlier. He really hits the nail on the head > there. > > It's YOU, the pilot, that makes the real difference! Skill can't be > bought > with a particular airplane. Guys like Joe and Daryl have proven > time and > again that they can win with almost anything, but I also know for a > fact > that they fly more than most and have put more time into the hobby > than > most. If you don't push your personal "envelope" then you'll never > get any > better. The "fastest" plane does not always win the race on the > slopes for > example. A pilot who's smooth on the sticks, flies the straightest > course > in the best lift zone and maintains energy better in the turns will > usually > win if he has at least a competitive plane. Soaring is much like > that. > Knowing your plane and being consistent will do more for you than > chasing > after the latest and greatest every season or two. > > Keith McLellan > Bizjet driver > "Go really, really fast... and turn left!" > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send > "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and > unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME > turned off. > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] XP9303 manual link
Excellent... thank you John for your continuing support! At 01:18 PM 9/1/2004, John Diniz wrote: For those asking for the new JR XP9303 radio manual follow the link to the PDF on Horizon's website. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Manuals.aspx?ProdID=JRP9260** Regards, John Diniz RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] XP9303 manual link
For those asking for the new JR XP9303 radio manual follow the link to the PDF on Horizon's website. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Manuals.aspx?ProdID=JRP9260** Regards, John Diniz RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Optimized thermal planes..GOOD ADVICE !!
I have to agree with Jim, We have been flying the same old airplane for too many seasons. It shows too, we are never gonna get any better, I am such a failure...8-( I will buy your Icon for a meere pittance, when you go for that New Silver bullet... We know that it has to be better... CJ --Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level IV LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold (Laptop) -- Original message -- > I think you all should keep your eyes wide open for that new "silver > bullet" model. Every time a new model comes out, sell what you have and > jump on the new one, it's sure to be better and will give that edge. > > Keep chasing those planes guys! > > The guys that keep flying the same model season after season are boring and > practice too much. > > > > At 11:18 AM 9/1/2004, John Erickson wrote: > >I liked Paul's analogy of not using a Big Bertha driver out of a sand trap. > >I really don't think our high performance planes are that far apart, but > >just for discussion here are three categories: > > > >Launching: A plane that pulls hard (good set up), cleans up well, low drag > >at high speed. Weight not critical, in fact if the winch can take it a > >little more helps. Good plane at this: NYK > > > >Thermalling: A plane that floats well but also has the ability to cruise > >from thermal to thermal. Can handle wind. Wingloading in these conditions > >can be a plus. Good plane at this: Icon > > > >Landing: A plane that flies slow well. Good low speed handling. Stable. > >Light weight helps by minimizing slide. Good plane at this: Mantis > > > >There are days when one plane can do two of these things really well, but > >rarely all three. I'm thinking of Phoenix a few years ago when a large > >group of us were flying Addictions...backwards. The heavier molded planes > >didn't seem to have as much of a problem. > > > >Then you have those soft thermal days when there isn't much wind and the > >floater is about the best you can use. > > > >All this is fine as we go chasing down the area in which we have a > >deficiency. Can't land? Get a Mantis. Can't thermal all over the sky? > >Get an Icon. Both planes, as a whole bunch of others are good enough multi > >purpose toys. What it really is all about is how skilled you are with the > >plane you choose. Most of us think there is a "silver bullet" out there > >when the only bullet is a lot of practice and familiarity with one plane. > > > >So the answer is to practice, but that is way too boring an answer. In the > >spirit of perpetuating the myth, I'd like to hear what everyone thinks is > >the best plane in each one of these categories, and why. > > > >JE > >-- > >Erickson Architects > >John R. Erickson, AIA > > > > > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > >and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note > >that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format > >with MIME turned off. > > Jim > Downers Grove, IL > Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV > ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME > turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Optimized thermal planes
Launching and Thermalling: a 3.7m Sharon, of course and if you just set up your landing early and consistently, you can be very competitive there as well!! It's been awhile since I've flown TD or any sailplane at all for that matter, but I'm going to get back into it, and my weapon of choice will be the Sharon. The last time I flew TD was in 2000, and both at Pasadena and at Visalia, I was told by the winchmasters to back off because I was pulling so hard I was burning up the winches. In one contest, in the first early morning round with foggy, misting conditions and no appreciable wind, I launched hard enough to make an 8 minute time without trying very hard. Just flew one big square pattern over the field. With the combo RG-15/7037 airfoil, big span and high aspect ration, it flies very efficeintly and penetrates well in even moderate winds, which is good because it doesn't have provisions for ballast unless you modify it. Making time is a non-issue by comparison with many other models out there. It IS big, so for you guys that tend to do a lot of maneuvering in close when going for your landing, it will push you to become much more consistent in your approaches and get set up properly much earlier. And it's heavier, with all that that implies, simply because of it's sheer size. That will affect landings also, and again requires more skill and lower landing speeds at the tape. Which brings me back to what John Erickson posted earlier. He really hits the nail on the head there. It's YOU, the pilot, that makes the real difference! Skill can't be bought with a particular airplane. Guys like Joe and Daryl have proven time and again that they can win with almost anything, but I also know for a fact that they fly more than most and have put more time into the hobby than most. If you don't push your personal "envelope" then you'll never get any better. The "fastest" plane does not always win the race on the slopes for example. A pilot who's smooth on the sticks, flies the straightest course in the best lift zone and maintains energy better in the turns will usually win if he has at least a competitive plane. Soaring is much like that. Knowing your plane and being consistent will do more for you than chasing after the latest and greatest every season or two. Keith McLellan Bizjet driver "Go really, really fast... and turn left!" RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Optimized thermal planes
I think you all should keep your eyes wide open for that new "silver bullet" model. Every time a new model comes out, sell what you have and jump on the new one, it's sure to be better and will give that edge. Keep chasing those planes guys! The guys that keep flying the same model season after season are boring and practice too much. At 11:18 AM 9/1/2004, John Erickson wrote: I liked Paul's analogy of not using a Big Bertha driver out of a sand trap. I really don't think our high performance planes are that far apart, but just for discussion here are three categories: Launching: A plane that pulls hard (good set up), cleans up well, low drag at high speed. Weight not critical, in fact if the winch can take it a little more helps. Good plane at this: NYK Thermalling: A plane that floats well but also has the ability to cruise from thermal to thermal. Can handle wind. Wingloading in these conditions can be a plus. Good plane at this: Icon Landing: A plane that flies slow well. Good low speed handling. Stable. Light weight helps by minimizing slide. Good plane at this: Mantis There are days when one plane can do two of these things really well, but rarely all three. I'm thinking of Phoenix a few years ago when a large group of us were flying Addictions...backwards. The heavier molded planes didn't seem to have as much of a problem. Then you have those soft thermal days when there isn't much wind and the floater is about the best you can use. All this is fine as we go chasing down the area in which we have a deficiency. Can't land? Get a Mantis. Can't thermal all over the sky? Get an Icon. Both planes, as a whole bunch of others are good enough multi purpose toys. What it really is all about is how skilled you are with the plane you choose. Most of us think there is a "silver bullet" out there when the only bullet is a lot of practice and familiarity with one plane. So the answer is to practice, but that is way too boring an answer. In the spirit of perpetuating the myth, I'd like to hear what everyone thinks is the best plane in each one of these categories, and why. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Optimized thermal planes
I liked Paul's analogy of not using a Big Bertha driver out of a sand trap. I really don't think our high performance planes are that far apart, but just for discussion here are three categories: Launching: A plane that pulls hard (good set up), cleans up well, low drag at high speed. Weight not critical, in fact if the winch can take it a little more helps. Good plane at this: NYK Thermalling: A plane that floats well but also has the ability to cruise from thermal to thermal. Can handle wind. Wingloading in these conditions can be a plus. Good plane at this: Icon Landing: A plane that flies slow well. Good low speed handling. Stable. Light weight helps by minimizing slide. Good plane at this: Mantis There are days when one plane can do two of these things really well, but rarely all three. I'm thinking of Phoenix a few years ago when a large group of us were flying Addictions...backwards. The heavier molded planes didn't seem to have as much of a problem. Then you have those soft thermal days when there isn't much wind and the floater is about the best you can use. All this is fine as we go chasing down the area in which we have a deficiency. Can't land? Get a Mantis. Can't thermal all over the sky? Get an Icon. Both planes, as a whole bunch of others are good enough multi purpose toys. What it really is all about is how skilled you are with the plane you choose. Most of us think there is a "silver bullet" out there when the only bullet is a lot of practice and familiarity with one plane. So the answer is to practice, but that is way too boring an answer. In the spirit of perpetuating the myth, I'd like to hear what everyone thinks is the best plane in each one of these categories, and why. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re: Stuff for sale
Flying high Please contact me also. I am interested in some of your items. Alan Dolley -- amd123 amd123's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=12963 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=147108 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] WTB Fiberglass Fuse for bolt on 100" Summa Classic wing with 9.5" chord
I am looking to buy a used or new Fiberglass fuse for my Summa Classic wing. It has a 9.5" chord and blots on the fuse Thanks in advance Steve RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
