Re: [RCSE] What Happened to JR 9303 Radio?
Mike, I was not at Visalia, but I too remember a post by John Diniz stating he had a radio he was giving away to whoever took 100th place not who won a fly-off of the middle of the pack flyers. Seems Terry may have a beef with the organizers for changing up the rules in mid stream. Can't really fault John here since it sounds like a radio was given away to Shawn. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Terry Mickle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] What Happened to JR 9303 Radio? In a message dated 10/9/2004 9:31:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Terry Mickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: There was a posting before Visalia that there would be a JR 9303 given to the pilot finishing in 100th place. What ever happened with that? Since I finished in 100th place I'm just curios. Terry Mickle Hi Terry, The Visalia folks actually had a flyoff for the middle of the pack flyers to see who got the JR radio. I think the middle was actually about 136. Shawn Lenci won the flyoff (10 flyers) with an 86 point landing and 3 seconds off of the three minute task. Mike Clancy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] What Happened to JR 9303 Radio?
In a message dated 10/9/2004 9:31:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Terry Mickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >There was a posting before Visalia that there would be a JR 9303 given >to the pilot finishing in 100th place. What ever happened with that? >Since I finished in 100th place I'm just curios. > >Terry Mickle Hi Terry, The Visalia folks actually had a flyoff for the middle of the pack flyers to see who got the JR radio. I think the middle was actually about 136. Shawn Lenci won the flyoff (10 flyers) with an 86 point landing and 3 seconds off of the three minute task. Mike Clancy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re: Artemis LT wing bolts
Nevermind, I found the wing bolts. Thanks to those of you who replied. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] What Happened to JR 9303 Radio?
In a message dated 10/9/2004 9:31:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Terry Mickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >There was a posting before Visalia that there would be a JR 9303 given >to the pilot finishing in 100th place. What ever happened with that? >Since I finished in 100th place I'm just curios. > >Terry Mickle > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and >unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Perkins needs help...Yea I know... but really
He needs the help of one of yous guys who know how to build Skeeters. Fancy that! (Gordy can step forward here)(but he won't) Seems that many years ago, when most of us learned the gentle art of Monocoating or dope and tissueSomehow, DP missed that class. Actually Joe was the one who showed DP how to monocoat. Now Bozo is not going out on a limb here and cast dispersions about Joes skill with a monocoat iron but... Lets just say his skills with the MC iron were on a par with his skills in soldering. I don¹t think CA is a good substitute for solder...but hey...I'm Bozo what do I know? Back to DP's problem... Bad Monocoating. Seems Dayrl has turned his stab into a molten mess. To be totally fair he reports that he was able to get each and every wrinkle out. Hummm. Will one of you guys give the guy a hand? Bozo, Your friend...maybe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] F3B Team Selections
Round 5 is in progress, TD to be done in the morning. Wurts Gordon Jennings Mike Smith Darrell Zaballos Aaron Valdes Tom Kiesling First day was blowing what felt like 20, but was about 15mph. Second day was beautiful... calm wind nice thermals. Light line all day. Aaron Valdes put in a pair of 15 sec speed runs day 1. They were sweet. Mike Smith put a hurt in distance with some great flying Fast, clean and crisp. Joe well Joe is doing what Joe does best.. Fly and read air. Randi Chronic is someone to be watched... a newcomer to F3B he has caught the attention of us all. Carnage on the lines Mike Lachowski had a spectacular blowup when his wingrod joiner failed on launch during speed. Dee Thompson buried a plane by flying the wrong plane during TD. Ben Lawless lost his tail on a third re-flight during distance after a snap roll on launch. Dennis Phelan totaled his plane on a launch by a bad toss by myself. Almost taking out a group of pilots in the pits. 8> Luckily no one was hurt. Looks like a few of the helpers have been hooked. We'll be seeing them flying next time like the Georgia boys... It's easy to get hooked on a sport that has multiple disciplines RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Solar Flight report...
Andrew E. Mileski wrote: Paul Breed wrote: From Time to time I post info on my solar powered RC plane here. Today it flew very well and is also a total loss What a trajedy :( Now if there were only manfacturers of these 82% efficient cells: http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,445,050.WKU.&OS=PN/4,445,050&RS=PN/4,445,050 At the time they were invented (1981) the technology to make them cheaply didn't exist ... but I believe it may now. It basically needs a modern chip fab. It seems to me, given the current theories on evolution that if a photosynthesis type cell were meant to fly there'd already be lots of flying plants around. :) Then again, they said something similar about Man flying too (if Man were meant to fly, he'd have wings by now). I love reading about solar powered planes. Thanks for the original post, and the followup links to the patent database. That was really very cool reading! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Bozo aka SkeeterBoy ...F3B and Icons
I once had a skeeter...Gordy gave it to me...it was his number one. Talked to Gordon this PM..its still Joe Who Mike Gordon Tim is still Standing. New rumors of an Icon "C" If you have to ask what the "C" stands for...don't ask. Bozo at 7000 ft sans Skeeter. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] ViXCen pic
Thought you might enjoy this shot. Today with ViXCen - taken about 1/2 mile out & 1000 ft. AGL Nikon D100 70-300 @ 300MM F5.6 1/750 http://www.msh-co.com/altitude/ViXCen.jpg 100% unretouched - just clipped This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachments and notify Space Imaging immediately.
[RCSE] Bird attacks
Ok, not strictly involving sailplanes, but still, some amazing gliding (and flapping) flight: This morning in cloudy light rain and high winds, I watched out my window here in Seattle the following scene: an extremely tightly bunched flock of smallish black birds (grackles?... something a good bit smaller than crows, and quite fast) perhaps 50-60 of them in a sort of big elastic 'sphere'. They were flying amazingly tight formation and veering and changing direction with incredible speed and unity... then I noticed that the reason for their tight-formation semi-aerobatics was that they were, as a group, harassing a red tailed hawk. I've seen one, two three and four birds all teaming up to give a raptor a hard time, but 60??? And they weren't doing the 'taking turns diving on the hawk' thing... they were acting as a single attacking mass... it was incredible to watch. Totally a new one on me, and just fascinating. The hawk was clearly losing, and really trying pretty hard, it seemed, to just get AWAY. I watched, riveted, until they went out of my field of view. Then an hour later I was talking on the phone, and happened to look out the window, and saw the whole show repeated AGAIN, only this time it was a bald eagle they were ganging up on. A half hour later, I saw it again, with the same or perhaps a different eagle. It was as if they formed a new sport, designated the neighborhood that slopes above Gasworks Park as the playing field, and scheduled three games in a row for Saturday morning. I've been watching birds for what I thought was a long time, but I've decided to quit thinking I won't regularly see something new. Lift, Scobie at Liftworx www.liftworx.com -Original Message- From: Steve Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Bird attacks vs. airplane color Most of my planes are white on top, a couple of them are red. I have shared thermals with Hawks, Vultures, Seagulls, and once even a Duck. Hawks seem the most compatible. Occasionally they will screech and complain and bully you into leaving "their territory". Once I was in a thermal with a Hawk. In my effort to stay in the "good air" with the Hawk I got a little close and the Hawk had to make an evasive maneuver. Like a "near miss" when flying with other sailplanes. I was sorry, though I don't think he understood me. We continued thermaling together, and when he had position on me, high on my 6, he dove at me in a threatening manner. It was beautiful and humorous. So I decided it was time to put my "tail between my legs" and scoot out of there and let him win. Like what was said before, I was just borrowing his air. Oh I just hope if I can be reincarnated it would be as a Hawk or Eagle so I can laugh at men trying to thermal their toy planes and not a pesky Red Wing blackbird that pops up out of the reeds to peck at passing sailplanes. :-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Solar Flight report...
Paul Breed wrote: From Time to time I post info on my solar powered RC plane here. Today it flew very well and is also a total loss What a trajedy :( Now if there were only manfacturers of these 82% efficient cells: http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,445,050.WKU.&OS=PN/4,445,050&RS=PN/4,445,050 At the time they were invented (1981) the technology to make them cheaply didn't exist ... but I believe it may now. It basically needs a modern chip fab. -- Andrew E. Mileski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Obeechi answer
Silly of me. Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ed Berris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:05 PM To: John Derstine; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Obeechi answer John, so sorry to trouble you with such a silly thread. I'm sure you had far more important things to pontificate on than silly old me. Sorry to drag you off your throne. Ed - Original Message - From: "John Derstine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Obeechi answer > Most Obeche is not rotary cut but plane sliced. Rotary cut veneers are > low grade, porous, and not good for veneering wings. Much of what you > are seeing is due to the fact that the veneer is cut on freshly steamed > logs to increase their elasticity and soften the wood. The better > veneers exhibit very little of this bumpy phenomenon. > This thread is the most silly I have seen in a while, the only reason > this might make any difference (using one side or other) is if you are > clear coating and not covering wings with covering, and then what > possible weight difference would it make to fill with a lightweight > filler such as talc or water based sanding sealer. The wood is porous > from both sides regardless of bumps. It will need sanding, (profiling) > sealing and filling irregardless of bumps. > Pick the side you like and go for it. > > JD > Which end of the egg do you crack open? > > Endless Mountain Models > http://www.scalesoaring.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Obeechi answer > > Those little bumps are caused by cutter knife. They > are ripped from the other side. The veneer is cut from > log while rotating. It's much easier to sand off those > bumps (which may adds up to maybe 1% of surface) than > try to sand smooth the other side with dings. Thus > bumps side outside. > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Solar Flight report...
From Time to time I post info on my solar powered RC plane here. Today it flew very well and is also a total loss http://www.rasdoc.com/splinter/solar2004.htm As I start planning for my 2005 version I want to upgrade the strength of my H-Stab. I believe that todays failure was due to the failure of my built up stab. Anyone know of a source that would glass a set of cores for me? (This needs to be world class light) Basic Specs: Airframe is at the maximum FAI limit 1.5 sq Meters combined wing and hstab area. Span is 14 feet. ~90W of power today. 130+ watts in clear sun. Total wt about 2.5 Kg Paul RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] What Happened to JR 9303 Radio?
There was a posting before Visalia that there would be a JR 9303 given to the pilot finishing in 100th place. What ever happened with that? Since I finished in 100th place I'm just curios. Terry Mickle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Scale fighters at Visalia
IIRC You can read volumes about these planes on RCGroups e-zone forums. = --- Jeffrey D. Gortatowsky La Habra Heights, California "Madam, there's no such thing as a tough child -- if you parboil them first for seven hours, they always come out tender. " - W.C. Fields "What wretched scoundrel stole the cork from my lunch?" - W.C. Fields RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Obeechi correction
Thanks Ed. I've often thought obechi is better than balsa for sheeting, but I've never actually tried it. If I ever do, I'll know what to do now. -Ben Ed Berris wrote: Ed, Ben and the three others out there that still work with obeechi. My last post seems to be in contradiction with what others think. So, I called my all knowing friend in California, Harris Nelson. He's probably used more Obeechi than most anyone else in the hobby other than maybe Ed Whyte. Harris confirmed what Ed Skorepa told me. The raised grain side goes face out. The indented side is the glue side. Why you ask? Because it is easy to sand down the raised grain but impossible to sand down the indented side. If you are using water based finish, and I am, it would take much more finish to produce a glass smooth surface because you would have build up successive coats just to fill the indented grain. So much for my memory. In fairness to Barry Kennedy he did tell me to lightly sand both sides and then select the side that looked the best. So there you have it. Everything I remembered was wrong but thanks to friends and the soaring exchange I got the emmece from the obeechi maven. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Obeechi answer
John, so sorry to trouble you with such a silly thread. I'm sure you had far more important things to pontificate on than silly old me. Sorry to drag you off your throne. Ed - Original Message - From: "John Derstine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Obeechi answer > Most Obeche is not rotary cut but plane sliced. Rotary cut veneers are > low grade, porous, and not good for veneering wings. Much of what you > are seeing is due to the fact that the veneer is cut on freshly steamed > logs to increase their elasticity and soften the wood. The better > veneers exhibit very little of this bumpy phenomenon. > This thread is the most silly I have seen in a while, the only reason > this might make any difference (using one side or other) is if you are > clear coating and not covering wings with covering, and then what > possible weight difference would it make to fill with a lightweight > filler such as talc or water based sanding sealer. The wood is porous > from both sides regardless of bumps. It will need sanding, (profiling) > sealing and filling irregardless of bumps. > Pick the side you like and go for it. > > JD > Which end of the egg do you crack open? > > Endless Mountain Models > http://www.scalesoaring.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Obeechi answer > > Those little bumps are caused by cutter knife. They > are ripped from the other side. The veneer is cut from > log while rotating. It's much easier to sand off those > bumps (which may adds up to maybe 1% of surface) than > try to sand smooth the other side with dings. Thus > bumps side outside. > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Obeechi answer
Most Obeche is not rotary cut but plane sliced. Rotary cut veneers are low grade, porous, and not good for veneering wings. Much of what you are seeing is due to the fact that the veneer is cut on freshly steamed logs to increase their elasticity and soften the wood. The better veneers exhibit very little of this bumpy phenomenon. This thread is the most silly I have seen in a while, the only reason this might make any difference (using one side or other) is if you are clear coating and not covering wings with covering, and then what possible weight difference would it make to fill with a lightweight filler such as talc or water based sanding sealer. The wood is porous from both sides regardless of bumps. It will need sanding, (profiling) sealing and filling irregardless of bumps. Pick the side you like and go for it. JD Which end of the egg do you crack open? Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Obeechi answer Those little bumps are caused by cutter knife. They are ripped from the other side. The veneer is cut from log while rotating. It's much easier to sand off those bumps (which may adds up to maybe 1% of surface) than try to sand smooth the other side with dings. Thus bumps side outside. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Bozo Wants to know...Icons and whatever else
> Give me the plane I really deserve. Done. Here's your Skeeter. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Obeechi answer
Those little bumps are caused by cutter knife. They are ripped from the other side. The veneer is cut from log while rotating. It's much easier to sand off those bumps (which may adds up to maybe 1% of surface) than try to sand smooth the other side with dings. Thus bumps side outside. --- Ben Diss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any idea why one way is better than the other? > > Ed Berris wrote: > > > Ok, thanks to Barry Kennedy I got the answer. For > the three people that > > might be interested here it is: > > > > Obeechi has an inside and outside to the veneer. > The inside (glue surface) > > has slightly raised grain while the outside grain > is very slightly indented. > > You can see the differences in just the right > light. > > > > More as it happens, > > Ed > > > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane > News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in > text only format with MIME turned off. > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane > News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in > text only format with MIME turned off. > ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Artemis LT Wing Bolts
I'm looking for a pair of Artemis LT wing bolts. In the process of getting rid of old junk, these got thrown away. F3X is shutdown until November, and I'm hoping to get replacements sooner than this. I've ordered a pair from Icare, but not sure if they have these or can sell them. Anyone here in the list than can help me out? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Obeechi correction
Ed, Ben and the three others out there that still work with obeechi. My last post seems to be in contradiction with what others think. So, I called my all knowing friend in California, Harris Nelson. He's probably used more Obeechi than most anyone else in the hobby other than maybe Ed Whyte. Harris confirmed what Ed Skorepa told me. The raised grain side goes face out. The indented side is the glue side. Why you ask? Because it is easy to sand down the raised grain but impossible to sand down the indented side. If you are using water based finish, and I am, it would take much more finish to produce a glass smooth surface because you would have build up successive coats just to fill the indented grain. So much for my memory. In fairness to Barry Kennedy he did tell me to lightly sand both sides and then select the side that looked the best. So there you have it. Everything I remembered was wrong but thanks to friends and the soaring exchange I got the emmece from the obeechi maven. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Obeechi answer
Any idea why one way is better than the other? Ed Berris wrote: Ok, thanks to Barry Kennedy I got the answer. For the three people that might be interested here it is: Obeechi has an inside and outside to the veneer. The inside (glue surface) has slightly raised grain while the outside grain is very slightly indented. You can see the differences in just the right light. More as it happens, Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Obeechi Question
raised --- Ed Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's been awhile since I've used Obeechi for wing > skins. I'm about to bag > some Shrike and Elf wings. > > I know there is a right side and a wrong side to the > veneer. I just don't > remember which is which. > > If you look closely at Obeechi you can see that on > one side the grain > appears to be raised while on the other side it > seems to be indented. Which > is the outside face? > Ed > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane > News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in > text only format with MIME turned off. > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Obeechi answer
Ok, thanks to Barry Kennedy I got the answer. For the three people that might be interested here it is: Obeechi has an inside and outside to the veneer. The inside (glue surface) has slightly raised grain while the outside grain is very slightly indented. You can see the differences in just the right light. More as it happens, Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] RE: Hi guys! (and Gordy)
Jo, As a matter of fact, yes I do like the strap! Thanks again! If you need any more BBQ sauces, let me know and I will send them off to you. :-) Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Bird attacks vs. airplane color
Most of my planes are white on top, a couple of them are red. I have shared thermals with Hawks, Vultures, Seagulls, and once even a Duck. Hawks seem the most compatible. Occasionally they will screech and complain and bully you into leaving "their territory". Once I was in a thermal with a Hawk. In my effort to stay in the "good air" with the Hawk I got a little close and the Hawk had to make an evasive maneuver. Like a "near miss" when flying with other sailplanes. I was sorry, though I don't think he understood me. We continued thermaling together, and when he had position on me, high on my 6, he dove at me in a threatening manner. It was beautiful and humorous. So I decided it was time to put my "tail between my legs" and scoot out of there and let him win. Like what was said before, I was just borrowing his air. Oh I just hope if I can be reincarnated it would be as a Hawk or Eagle so I can laugh at men trying to thermal their toy planes and not a pesky Red Wing blackbird that pops up out of the reeds to peck at passing sailplanes. :-) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Obeechi Question
It's been awhile since I've used Obeechi for wing skins. I'm about to bag some Shrike and Elf wings. I know there is a right side and a wrong side to the veneer. I just don't remember which is which. If you look closely at Obeechi you can see that on one side the grain appears to be raised while on the other side it seems to be indented. Which is the outside face? Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] F3B
Gordon says Joe Who in first Mike Smith first loser Gordon second loser Tim Renaud is still walking Bozo RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] East Coast HLG Festival 2004
There is still a little time left to send in your registration for our fall HLG festival in Wilson, North Carolina on October 22-23-24. I just posted the tasks that we will be using. Please take a look here http://olgol.com/contest/tasks.html We are approximately at 20 pilots now and we sure could use a lot more participants. The current list of pilots is also on the web-site http://olgol.com/contest/pilots.html Rick Walba just sent me 3 tailbooms for the raffle! Thank you Rick. We will have a very respectable pilots' raffle this year. A big thanks to all our sponsors: Denny Maize and Phil Barnes, JR Horizon, and Rick Walba. We plan to have foamy races after the contest flying on Saturday, not to mention a whole day of cross-country, fun flying, and "Wilson Cup" on Friday. It is going to be a great event and you could be there too if you sent your registration today. Oleg. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Buzzards flew with me
Back in 1975, I was flying the LSF Level 4 thermal flight when a flock of buzzards joined up with my sailplane. I was flying my Tern 4 which had a very weak wing so when the hour was up, I searched out some sink to circle in while descending. A long string of about 30 buzzards came by and the leader joined up with me. He made one circle before continuing on his original course. The end of the line of buzzards had not reached the circle when the leader broke off but all the buzzards made a complete circle before resuming the course. I could imagine the leader thinking "What a stupid bird! Circling in sink!" Chuck Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] I've piggybacked on hawks/buzzards many a time, but last week I had one piggy back on me.
I had just cored a thermal about about 500-750' when a hawk, who was flying on a straight line to where I was, started a thermal turn under me and circled the same direction as I was turning but stayed under me. He made 4-5 turns and then took off on the same line that he was previously on. I guess he didn't think my lift was good enough or the size of my Grand Esprit scared him off. Stan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Bird attacks vs. airplane color
The only plane I have had attacked in the air was the Infamous Flamingoid, which is pink. I was doing a half hour thermal flight, and a couple of buzzards, of all things, took offense at the presence of a Flamingoid in their air and made repeated swoops at it. I did loops and stalls, and they eventually left. I got the half hour. And for what it's worth, the same pink Flamingoid has been attacked several times on the ground by RC sailplane pilots. Go figure. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Fwd: QUASOAR 99" OR 123" sailplane.
FOR SALE- Quasoar, standard 99" / unlimted 123" sailplane, stab and rudder built, wings ready to sheet, nothing done to the fiberglass fuselage, every thing else in box, ACE kit. $145.00 + shipping Ron Cate [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Begin Message --- FOR SALE - Quasoar standard 99" / unlimited 123" sailplane, stab and rudder built, wings ready to sheet, nothing done to the fiberglass fuselage, every thing else in box, ACE RC kit. $145.00 + shipping. Ron Cate [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End Message ---
Re: [RCSE] shipping
I gave up on UPS several years ago, damage rate was extremely high and their claims department must be on a commission based on claims money not paid. I use Fed Ex Ground Service because it costs less and damage to my kit boxes is basically NONE. I have seen foot prints on boxes shipped by UPS. The difference in DAMAGE RATE is ATTITUDE. The Postal Service is on the same par as UPS, high prices, damaged shipments and poor claims payment. I can't understand why so many ebay sellers use the US Postal Service to ship boxes. Ray Hayes http://www.skybench.com Home of Wood Crafters - Original Message - From: "John Derstine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Phil Barnes'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'RCSE'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 6:59 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] shipping > I concur: > After using UPS exclusively for a few years, I now use FED EX ground > almost exclusively for what I call small stuff, and FED EX express saver > for larger sailplanes that don't require me to use airfreight service. > What I have found in shipping via any shipper is that the human on the > customer service end to a large part, determines the rate you pay. This > is somewhat true with FED EX in my experience, and especially true with > airfreight where I save up to $100.00 dollars per shipment because the > freight agent likes me and takes off all the bogus "extras" that I could > be paying. > I always ask for a quote before shipping at either place or a written > copy of the transaction. > > JD > > Endless Mountain Models > http://www.scalesoaring.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: Phil Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 6:54 PM > To: 'RCSE' > Subject: RE: [RCSE] shipping > > I used to ship everything via UPS ground. After they computerized their > shipping outlets, two things happened: First, every package got charged > for > the full rate including oversize rates, > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] US F3B TS
I'll call Rich Burnowski today on his cell, and see if I can get a report. Dave Hauch Mich. - Original Message - From: "Daryl Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:07 PM Subject: [RCSE] US F3B TS > Did the TS start today? Anybody know how it's going? > > D > > > > ___ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] 9303 availability...
Last I checked, Horizon hobby had this version in stock. 9303 Sailplane R770 3-DS368 MD2 [JRP9263**] JD Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Les Grammer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] 9303 availability... Any of you distributors with 9303's currently available? -Les Grammer RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] shipping
I concur: After using UPS exclusively for a few years, I now use FED EX ground almost exclusively for what I call small stuff, and FED EX express saver for larger sailplanes that don't require me to use airfreight service. What I have found in shipping via any shipper is that the human on the customer service end to a large part, determines the rate you pay. This is somewhat true with FED EX in my experience, and especially true with airfreight where I save up to $100.00 dollars per shipment because the freight agent likes me and takes off all the bogus "extras" that I could be paying. I always ask for a quote before shipping at either place or a written copy of the transaction. JD Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Phil Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 6:54 PM To: 'RCSE' Subject: RE: [RCSE] shipping I used to ship everything via UPS ground. After they computerized their shipping outlets, two things happened: First, every package got charged for the full rate including oversize rates, RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
