[RCSE] Trade?
I have a Hornet micro helicopter with fixed pitch main rotor blades that I've lost interest in. If you've ever contemplated getting into helicopters this is a great way to start. Here's what I have: FP Hornet (minus canopy), 3 Cirrus CS-10 servos (installed), 1 Cirrus MPG-10 Gyro (installed), extra Cirrus MPG-10 Gyro, Carbon main blades (installed), New (less than 5 battery runs) Graupner Speed 300 motor (installed) speed control for brushed motors aluminum tail pitch slider (installed), aluminum 90/120 degree swash plate (installed), 3 NiMh batteries (2 8 cell 720mAh and 1 7 cell 700mAh) Ms Composit mini charger for NiMh and Nicad batteries Bag of extra parts (extra metal main rotor shaft, drive gears, bearings, plastic swash plates, tail fin, collars, decals, instructions) I have over $500 tied up in this thing and it's just collecting dust. The upgrades I've added make this very stable and easy to hover. That's all I've done with it is hover about one foot off the ground with training gear (not included) I'd like to trade for it for any of the following: speed 400 pylon racer JR digital servos JR 700 or 770 receiver Ellipse/Escape ballast set or any Ellipse/Escape parts F3B winch Bungie for launching open class planes 2M Image Psyko/Schpotdorker Sailplane bag F3B plane small electric sailplane slope plane DLG kit or let me know what you have. Mike Las Vegas, NV
[RCSE] Free Plane...
...Is spoken for. Cheers, Bill --- It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.B. Baggins Bill Johns Colton, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Sharon for sale
For Sale straight tailed Sharon Yellow, red bottoms and trim. All JR digitals,batt and switch. This is 100% ready to go, just add rec. Comes with red Jim type bag a $125 value by itself. This is L5 Mike Remus plane who we lost last fall. This plane is in near perfect condition. All money goes to his wife Peg. $1400+ $50 shipping Jerry Shape 937 843 5085
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Re: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations
The Oly 650 is a nice small sailplane, three piece wing , easy to transport. Slope or thermal, flies very well. But you have to build it!! A.B. - Original Message - From: "Bill Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'RCSE Yahoo'" ; "'Jim Laurel'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 5:00 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations He might want to consider the Olympic 650 that'll be available from Aerosphere at www.aerosphereonline.com in about a month. It was designed by Lee Renaud and produced by Airtronics for many years. It's a kit, but the construction is basic and the performance is excellent. It has been used as the center piece in a couple of introductory sailplane books. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] X-tail Escape
Im looking for a X-tail Escape that will hold up to a full f3j launch. i would also be interested in a right wing for an escape. Email me if you have one thanks joseph _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Beginner Sailplane recommendation
I see it now, the suggestions are going to keep escalating to higher-performing and more expensive planes. Forgetting that the user is going to be a youngster first-timer. And suggesting slope oriented planes for thermalling seems weird to me. Not that it's impossible, but because it makes little sense to me in the context of the target user. Very inexperienced newbies I know of tend to need lightweight gasbag planes, and preferably poly ships that are as stable as possible. You guys seem to forget that most of you are elite flyers and high performance ships are your normal stock in trade. I work the lower end myself, and am quite happy with 2-meter 2-channel poly floaters with inexpensive gear. I think that that direction is a good one for beginners as well. If you put an EPP nose on a Gentle Lady fuse and traded the GL wing for one with an EPP leading edge, carbon tube spar and main cores of styrene, I think you'd have my perfect trainer.
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A FREE PLANE!!! was Re: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations
On May 27, 2006, at 3:00 PM, Jim Laurel wrote: Years ago I would have suggested a Highlander, but they are no more and there don't seem to be any really credible (i.e., decent performing) foamies. Speaking of Highlanders That's what I learned flying a full house plane with. I actually trashed one on a zoom launch into a stiff wind. That's significant because they are nearly indestructible. ;-) Anyway I still have my second one. It's beat up, but still flies and would be a good plane for a beginner. It has full flaps and ailerons. Comes with all servos, no battery or Rx. Free to a good home, you cover shipping. Now here's the deal. I do have a box that someone sent me a 2M wing in. It's plywood and I'd have to cut the tailfeathers off the fuse, but gluing them back on shouldn't be a big deal. I've no idea how much it would cost to send that box anywhere, it's not all that heavy, just big. If interested contact me off line and let's see if we can work something out. No, I'm not gonna give it to someone just so they can rip the servos out, I do want to get it to a beginner or better yet, some club that wants to use it as a trainer for raw newbies. (It'd be a great slope plane for beginners to learn how to use all those control surfaces.) Obviously if you can come by my digs and just pick it up, great, I can still use the box as a jello mold. Cheers, Bill --- It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life.B. Baggins Bill Johns Colton, WA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations
On Fri, 26 May 2006, George Voss wrote: > Personally I'd recommend the Easy Star since it's electric, he'll get more > flying time in per session. I'd recommend making the rudder 1/2-1" wider > since the rudder is pretty small. I taught my brother-in-law to fly with > one. gv Hey now, While I'd have to admit the "Easy star" is a fine beginners model (with the rudder modification) Why not go with the "Easy Glider?" They make both a "pure" glider, and an electric version. It even has ailerons and is as easy to fly as the Easy Star. You don't even need to do the rudder mod... RobII ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Erica Frank & Rob CarterII [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Everybody understands Mickey mouse. Few understand Herman Hesse. Hardly anyone understands Albert Einstein. And nobody understands Emperor Norten" -Malaclypse the younger- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations
He might want to consider the Olympic 650 that'll be available from Aerosphere at www.aerosphereonline.com in about a month. It was designed by Lee Renaud and produced by Airtronics for many years. It's a kit, but the construction is basic and the performance is excellent. It has been used as the center piece in a couple of introductory sailplane books. Bill -Original Message- From: Jim Laurel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 3:23 PM To: RCSE Yahoo Subject: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations I know this has been discussed before, but wanted to get your current thinking. A co-worker hears me talking about soaring all the time and is asking about a sailplane for his son. Years ago I would have suggested a Highlander, but they are no more and there don't seem to be any really credible (i.e., decent performing) foamies. If you want a nice molded TD plane, I can talk all day, but when it comes to this kind of plane, I'm at a loss. I'm thinking about recommending the Multiplex Easy Glider, which is inexpensive and readily available from Tower Hobbies: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKHS7&P=7 Any ideas appreciated. .. Jim Laurel Co-founder Twango Inc. mob 425.985.4849 ofc 425.883.1638 http://www.twango.com/profile.aspx?twangoid=jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Albuquerque F5J World Challenge
Sailplane Enthusiasts: How about some Man-on-Man precision duration sailplane competition where up to 12 contstants launch and land into the wind? The Albuquerque Soaring Association is pleased to announce our annual Albuquerque F5J World Challenge. Details are available at this address: http://www.soarabq.org/f5j_wc_2006/f5j_main.shtml We are also pleased to introduce the new F5J Outrunner Class that is cost competitive with Speed 400 Class sailplane power systems. Brushless outrunner motors provide much more reliable and more efficient power. With the same sailplane and battery, a 30 second Outrunner moror run is usually more than equivalent with a 60 second Speed 400 motor run. Please note that we have changed the dates for the Albuquerque F5J World Challenge previously held in October, to September to avoid morning ground fog sometimes present. Any Questions? Dale Nutter
[RCSE] F3B Team Selections
To all interested F3B pilots and of course other interested R/C pilots. AMA has finally approved the August 23rd thru the 27th for F3B Team Select to be flown at AMA Headquarters, Muncie, IN. Within a few days AMA will publish entry requirements to all who have participated in the last two cycles. Anyone who has not been in the last two cycles May call Lisa Johnson at AMA, 1-765-287-1256, or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain this info. Likewise I will soon publish the adgenda and other pertainent information required to assist those of you interested participating. Also anyone that can volunteer to help on site, please contact me directly. I have two, possibly three individules who can help but we need more. Regards, Dave Corven AMA 878, LSF 254 and current AMA Leader Member. 248-512-8682 days, 586-781-2865 home, 248-515-2153 cell. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[Fwd: Re: [RCSE] where to donate model magazines in LA?]
Original Message Subject: Re: [RCSE] where to donate model magazines in LA? From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Sat, May 27, 2006 10:19 am To: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- How about Boy / Girl Scouts? They do try to aquire Merit Badges. Maybe gain a new RC enthusiast. When the local club hands out excess magazines, we target young people. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[Fwd: RE: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations]
Original Message Subject: RE: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Sat, May 27, 2006 10:05 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The EasyStar (54 inch) is much smaller than The EasyGlider (71 inch). Both made by Hitec / Multiplex EasyGlider does come in a Electric or glider versions only. EasyGlider http://www.hobby-lobby.com/easyglidersail.htm EasyGlider Electric http://www.hobby-lobby.com/easyglider.htm EasyStar http://www.hobby-lobby.com/easystar.htm Review http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4728 I've witnessed the one in the review. It handles so well that the local club members now has over a dozen of the glider versions for aero-tow and same plane design contests. The Easy is design for thermal duration and is a "floater" because of that. That is what beginners need. If you want a glider to penetrate, you will need a higher performance glider. Either heavier or faster airfoil. Neither is desired for a "beginner." > I have assembled and flown both Easy Star and Easy Glider (non-motorized > version) and recommend the Easy Star as a first plane to learn on. It > glides very well and is much easier to handle and transport on the ground. > > As was mentioned by Ed Anderson, Easy Glider does not penetrate well > unless it is ballasted and a hefty nose weight added. I put 2 inch long > steel rod pieces in the spar tube and another couple of ounces in the nose > to make it penetrate on the slope. > > For Easy Star, a beginner is likely to corkscrew the plane unwittingly. I > helped a friend recover from one and the wing broke at the end of the > spar. A length of fiberglass tape from the wing root to over the curved > wingtip edge solved this weakness. I also like to dive the Easy Star full > throttle on a brushless motor and found the horizontal stab lose authority > in recovering from steep dives, resulting in my Easy Star taking a dunk in > the Han River of South Korea on more than 1 occasion. This too was solved > by adding a length of fiberglass tape on the bottom surface of the > horizontal stab and the elevator. One more modification for a beginner > Easy Star is to fix the wing to the fuse. I found the wing roots get > loose after few insertions, removals and tumbles. Of course, having a > minivan big enough to carry the fully assembled Easy Star is helpful too. > I get fine directional control with the stock rudder - just have to be > patient and wait for the plane to listen to your directional control input > or anticipate the necessary change in direction by a few seconds :) > > Hee-Choon Sam Lee > Seoul, Korea > Member of RCCAFE, AMA 817622 > >> Personally I'd recommend the Easy Star since it's electric, he'll get >> more flying time in per session. I'd recommend making the rudder 1/2-1" >> wider since the rudder is pretty small. I taught my brother-in-law to >> fly with one. gv >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jim Laurel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 5:23 PM >> To: RCSE Yahoo >> Subject: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations >> >> I know this has been discussed before, but wanted to get your current >> thinking. A co-worker hears me talking about soaring all the time and >> is asking about a sailplane for his son. Years ago I would have >> suggested a Highlander, but they are no more and there don't seem to >> be any really credible (i.e., decent performing) foamies. If you want >> a nice molded TD plane, I can talk all day, but when it comes to this >> kind of plane, I'm at a loss. >> >> I'm thinking about recommending the Multiplex Easy Glider, which is >> inexpensive and readily available from Tower Hobbies: >> >> http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKHS7&P=7 >> >> Any ideas appreciated. >> >> .. >> Jim Laurel >> Co-founder >> Twango Inc. >> mob 425.985.4849 >> ofc 425.883.1638 >> http://www.twango.com/profile.aspx?twangoid=jim >> >> >> >> RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" >> and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note >> that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format >> with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail >> and AOL are generally NOT in text format >> >> RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" >> and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note >> that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format >> with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail >> and AOL are generally NOT in text format > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note > that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format >
[RCSE] Re: Beginner Sailplane recommendation
How about something from californiasailplanes.com Their Eraser 60 performs very well and is easy to build. With more effort, their Redback 60" sailplane performs great and is very sleek for a foamie. Finally their U2 is a fast performer, though requires more wind than the Redback or Eraser 60. Who says foam doesn't perform? If you'd like something scale that still flies very well, check out leadingedgegliders.com which has gliders in a range from 48" to 72", and I can attest that they fly very well in a wide range of wind speeds. You can even have them expertly shape the fuselage for a small additional charge. I would recommend an EPP foam glider like these over Graupner's easily broken 'Elapor' foam gliders. Learning to fly is a lot more fun when your mistakes don't end the day's flying or require frequent field repairs. Besides, these planes will fly much better than the Easy Glider. Jeff Soaring wrote: SoaringSat, 27 May 2006 Volume 1 : Number 7705 In this issue: RE: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations -- Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:33:06 -0400 (EDT) From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Subject: RE: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have assembled and flown both Easy Star and Easy Glider (non-motorized version) and recommend the Easy Star as a first plane to learn on. It glides very well and is much easier to handle and transport on the ground. As was mentioned by Ed Anderson, Easy Glider does not penetrate well unless it is ballasted and a hefty nose weight added. I put 2 inch long steel rod pieces in the spar tube and another couple of ounces in the nose to make it penetrate on the slope. For Easy Star, a beginner is likely to corkscrew the plane unwittingly. I helped a friend recover from one and the wing broke at the end of the spar. A length of fiberglass tape from the wing root to over the curved wingtip edge solved this weakness. I also like to dive the Easy Star full throttle on a brushless motor and found the horizontal stab lose authority in recovering from steep dives, resulting in my Easy Star taking a dunk in the Han River of South Korea on more than 1 occasion. This too was solved by adding a length of fiberglass tape on the bottom surface of the horizontal stab and the elevator. One more modification for a beginner Easy Star is to fix the wing to the fuse. I found the wing roots get loose after few insertions, removals and tumbles. Of course, having a minivan big enough to carry the fully assembled Easy Star is helpful too. I get fine directional control with the stock rudder - just have to be patient and wait for the plane to listen to your directional control input or anticipate the necessary change in direction by a few seconds :) Hee-Choon Sam Lee Seoul, Korea Member of RCCAFE, AMA 817622 Personally I'd recommend the Easy Star since it's electric, he'll get more flying time in per session. I'd recommend making the rudder 1/2-1" wider since the rudder is pretty small. I taught my brother-in-law to fly with one. gv -Original Message- From: Jim Laurel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 5:23 PM To: RCSE Yahoo Subject: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations I know this has been discussed before, but wanted to get your current thinking. A co-worker hears me talking about soaring all the time and is asking about a sailplane for his son. Years ago I would have suggested a Highlander, but they are no more and there don't seem to be any really credible (i.e., decent performing) foamies. If you want a nice molded TD plane, I can talk all day, but when it comes to this kind of plane, I'm at a loss. I'm thinking about recommending the Multiplex Easy Glider, which is inexpensive and readily available from Tower Hobbies: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKHS7&P=7 Any ideas appreciated. .. Jim Laurel Co-founder Twango Inc. mob 425.985.4849 ofc 425.883.1638 http://www.twango.com/profile.aspx?twangoid=jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to soaring-request@airage.com. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to soaring-request@airage.com. Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- End of Soaring V1 #7705 *** RCSE-List facilities provided by
RE: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations
I have assembled and flown both Easy Star and Easy Glider (non-motorized version) and recommend the Easy Star as a first plane to learn on. It glides very well and is much easier to handle and transport on the ground. As was mentioned by Ed Anderson, Easy Glider does not penetrate well unless it is ballasted and a hefty nose weight added. I put 2 inch long steel rod pieces in the spar tube and another couple of ounces in the nose to make it penetrate on the slope. For Easy Star, a beginner is likely to corkscrew the plane unwittingly. I helped a friend recover from one and the wing broke at the end of the spar. A length of fiberglass tape from the wing root to over the curved wingtip edge solved this weakness. I also like to dive the Easy Star full throttle on a brushless motor and found the horizontal stab lose authority in recovering from steep dives, resulting in my Easy Star taking a dunk in the Han River of South Korea on more than 1 occasion. This too was solved by adding a length of fiberglass tape on the bottom surface of the horizontal stab and the elevator. One more modification for a beginner Easy Star is to fix the wing to the fuse. I found the wing roots get loose after few insertions, removals and tumbles. Of course, having a minivan big enough to carry the fully assembled Easy Star is helpful too. I get fine directional control with the stock rudder - just have to be patient and wait for the plane to listen to your directional control input or anticipate the necessary change in direction by a few seconds :) Hee-Choon Sam Lee Seoul, Korea Member of RCCAFE, AMA 817622 > Personally I'd recommend the Easy Star since it's electric, he'll get > more flying time in per session. I'd recommend making the rudder 1/2-1" > wider since the rudder is pretty small. I taught my brother-in-law to > fly with one. gv > > -Original Message- > From: Jim Laurel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 5:23 PM > To: RCSE Yahoo > Subject: [RCSE] Beginner sailplane recommendations > > I know this has been discussed before, but wanted to get your current > thinking. A co-worker hears me talking about soaring all the time and > is asking about a sailplane for his son. Years ago I would have > suggested a Highlander, but they are no more and there don't seem to > be any really credible (i.e., decent performing) foamies. If you want > a nice molded TD plane, I can talk all day, but when it comes to this > kind of plane, I'm at a loss. > > I'm thinking about recommending the Multiplex Easy Glider, which is > inexpensive and readily available from Tower Hobbies: > > http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKHS7&P=7 > > Any ideas appreciated. > > .. > Jim Laurel > Co-founder > Twango Inc. > mob 425.985.4849 > ofc 425.883.1638 > http://www.twango.com/profile.aspx?twangoid=jim > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note > that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format > with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail > and AOL are generally NOT in text format > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note > that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format > with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail > and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] where to donate model magazines in LA?
I’m sure you want the Model magazines to go to some place they will be appreciated. Please consider your local hospitals and nursing homes. I volunteer at the local hospital and I can assure you that they will appreciate them. So many times people have time to wait at a hospital and magazines can help them get focused on something other than the problems that they may be confronting them. We recycle all kinds of things but all of the magazines (model or otherwise) go to good use helping others at local hospitals or nursing homes. John
