[RCSE] Paging Mike Smith

2008-06-03 Thread Craig Allen
Mike please ping me :-)

Craig


[RCSE] 2008 IHLGF and Gordy

2008-06-03 Thread Craig Allen
Well the time has almost come... Very early Thursday I'm leaving for the 2008 
IHLGF... I'm loaning Gordy a glider to fly in the Friday WAG contest... Just to 
make sure I don't come in last :- Hey its a 14oz.. no no no... Make 
that a 26oz. Overhand Launch Glider from 1978.. 

You never know since Gordy is always winning. Or do I mean Whining 
Every contest he enters with his Worlds Heaviest Supra... He should feel right 
at home :- Only one pop off Gordy :-))) LoL

Na... I wouldn't do that to him... He will have his choice of an XP-4.5 or an 
Taboo NZ...

Craig.. Trying to fit 3 12x12 tents, 20 chairs, 2 ice chest, 12v deep cycle 
battery, and oh ya... 3 planes into a VW EOS... I'm so so screwed :-)


Re: [RCSE] Chargers

2008-06-03 Thread Jeff Steifel

I have an Alpha that is 14 years old. Works great.
I also have a Pro Peak Prodigy that I only paid $54 for.
Man I guess I got a good deal.
The Alpha rules for sure.

Still looking for a new do it all and do many at once charger.

D.O. Darnell wrote:


I think all of  you are right with exceptions. Im sure there are 
several good chargers, but few which do it all.


I have an Alpha 4 and have enjoyed it for its features for more than 
ten years, during which it has worked flawlessly.
It does have limitations, but it puts a longer lasting charge than 
say, the Sirius that I use for my quick (field) charger.  I usually 
use my ALPHA after a flying session for two planes and one 
transmitter, and yes,, it does have a limitation of 1 amp total output 
at any given time.  This is not a problem, however in the application 
I use it for.  When I forget to charge, or it has been a while since, 
or if I need to fly in the next 30 minutes, I use my Sirius, which 
produces a "peaky" charge that is usually sufficient for 1 minute of 
flying for each one minute of charge.  (my rule).
The Alpha is great for recycling too.  My Multiplex NC 5A is superior 
however because of multiple charge/discharge cycling ability, plus, 
its a good field charger for electric Nicads or NiMhs power packs 
which are, however anachronistic.


But neither the Alpha nor the Sirius is  the answer for Lipos.  I have 
recently ordered a Pro Peak Prodigy which can charge 1-5 cell 
Lithiums, 1-14 cell Ni-Cds and Ni-MHs, and 2-12V lead acid batteries 
all at an adjustable rate of .1-5 amps output (Up to 50 watts total 
charge output)! It can even cycle and slow-discharge from 0.1 to 1 amp 
(5 watt maximum). The Prodigy is an affordable, reliable, versatile 
charger  available at Global Hobby.com and is $95.



d.o.







Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:23:12 -0500
From: Doug McLaren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: JAMES EALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Peter Schlitzkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] AC/DC
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 11:59:45AM -0400, JAMES EALY wrote:

| You can not beat the ALPHA 4 (charger/discharger/maintainance)

Of course you can.

Other chargers can charge at higher rates.

Other chargers can charge more cells (granted, not such a big issue for
  a charger that can only do one amp total between all it's outputs.)

Other chargers can do more chemistries (i.e. LiPo.)

Other chargers are a lot cheaper (Originally $300, then $259 right at
  the end.)

Other chargers you can actually buy!  (I don't think any Alpha 4s have
  been made since 2005, and even then you had to jump through hoops
  to get one.)

Other chargers are supported!  (I've no idea if the Alpha 4 still is
  or not.  The fact that several of the pages on their web site have
  been blanked out, such as the home page, the ordering page and the
  `contact us' page, but not some others, is a very bad sign.)

As of 2008, the only really special features that the Alpha 4 has is
that 1) it can charge 4 packs at once and 2) it's got that 1970s retro
look, if you're into that.  And feature #1 isn't even that special
any more.

Perhaps in the past the Alpha 4 was king, but it hasn't been for
years.

Personally, when I need to charge multiple RX or TX packs slowly, I
use my $30 Hobbico R/C mlti-charger (LXL331) with four outputs.  No
peak charging, granted, but occasional slow chargings without peak
detection are a good thing.  It beats four wall-warts anyways.  And
for fast charging and cycling and such, I use my GP Triton.

--
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Re: [RCSE] The punishment phase of this travesty.

2008-06-03 Thread mrmaserati
We, the soaring community, have been punished altogether too much on this 
subject. D, buy yourself a new Seiko from Barry and prove to Bozo that you can 
survive without his old, worn out relic, and also save the rest of us from 
further punishment.

Regards, Dave Corven.


 -- Original message --
From: Phil Townsend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> Ah, yes Punishment...
> 
> This is where we (The Soaring Comminity) get to meter out what might seem a
> bit superfical, but rest assured the punishment( I like that
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[RCSE] The punishment phase of this travesty.

2008-06-03 Thread Phil Townsend


Ah, yes Punishment...

This is where we (The Soaring Comminity) get to meter out what might seem a
bit superfical, but rest assured the punishment( I like that
word...punishment, punishment) will fit the crime.


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[RCSE] Re: IT"S OVER!!!!

2008-06-03 Thread ktlkrn
Phil,

Thanks for that. Now it is time for the punishment phase of this travesty.

I'm thinking Daryl should provide Jager Bombs at Visalia. Unlimited amount!!! 

This is fair for the mental distress he has heaped on the entire soaring 
community. After all, we would have had to listen to his this tale every time 
he didn't win. How old would that get

Daryl, I have the 8th place coaster (plaque) you won at the SWC. Oh yeah, he 
had the watch then

Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler, AZ
 Phil Townsend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> In the dept. of Beating a Dead Horse...
> It's over
> The Magic watch has returned...
> It's JuJu still intact.
> 
> Who was the culprit...
> Who was the asswipe...
> 
> Uhhh... its was The Lord of the Calimari himself...Mr Perkins.
> 
> Seems it slipped down between the seats of his ride...
> 
> 
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> only cleaner.
> 
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[RCSE] IT"S OVER!!!!

2008-06-03 Thread Phil Townsend
In the dept. of Beating a Dead Horse...
It's over
The Magic watch has returned...
It's JuJu still intact.

Who was the culprit...
Who was the asswipe...

Uhhh... its was The Lord of the Calimari himself...Mr Perkins.

Seems it slipped down between the seats of his ride...


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Re: [RCSE] Chargers

2008-06-03 Thread ktlkrn
I have a couple of the Alpha 4's and still use them almost daily. They will 
handle virtually everything I use with one box. Sure it is not the fastest when 
it comes to larger packs but there is nothing I own that needs to be charged 
that quickly anyway.  The cyclers are great as well.

I use a Triton for my Lipos but am searching for a new Lipo charger with more 
capability.

There is nothing wrong with the Alpha 4. Despite its older look it is still 
extremely functional. The A4 was  ahead of its time when it came out and still 
is in many ways. Too bad they closed.

BTW, I heard they closed because the owners wanted to retire and not from a 
lack of business. May or may not be fact.

Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
 "D.O. Darnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> >
> I think all of  you are right with exceptions. Im sure there are  
> several good chargers, but few which do it all.
> 
> I have an Alpha 4 and have enjoyed it for its features for more than  
> ten years, during which it has worked flawlessly.
> It does have limitations, but it puts a longer lasting charge than  
> say, the Sirius that I use for my quick (field) charger.  I usually  
> use my ALPHA after a flying session for two planes and one  
> transmitter, and yes,, it does have a limitation of 1 amp total output  
> at any given time.  This is not a problem, however in the application  
> I use it for.  When I forget to charge, or it has been a while since,  
> or if I need to fly in the next 30 minutes, I use my Sirius, which  
> produces a "peaky" charge that is usually sufficient for 1 minute of  
> flying for each one minute of charge.  (my rule).
> The Alpha is great for recycling too.  My Multiplex NC 5A is superior  
> however because of multiple charge/discharge cycling ability, plus,  
> its a good field charger for electric Nicads or NiMhs power packs  
> which are, however anachronistic.
> 
> But neither the Alpha nor the Sirius is  the answer for Lipos.  I have  
> recently ordered a Pro Peak Prodigy which can charge 1-5 cell  
> Lithiums, 1-14 cell Ni-Cds and Ni-MHs, and 2-12V lead acid batteries  
> all at an adjustable rate of .1-5 amps output (Up to 50 watts total  
> charge output)! It can even cycle and slow-discharge from 0.1 to 1 amp  
> (5 watt maximum). The Prodigy is an affordable, reliable, versatile  
> charger  available at Global Hobby.com and is $95.
> 
> 
> d.o.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:23:12 -0500
> > From: Doug McLaren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: JAMES EALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: Peter Schlitzkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, soaring@airage.com
> > Subject: Re: [RCSE] AC/DC
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 11:59:45AM -0400, JAMES EALY wrote:
> >
> > | You can not beat the ALPHA 4 (charger/discharger/maintainance)
> >
> > Of course you can.
> >
> > Other chargers can charge at higher rates.
> >
> > Other chargers can charge more cells (granted, not such a big issue  
> > for
> >   a charger that can only do one amp total between all it's outputs.)
> >
> > Other chargers can do more chemistries (i.e. LiPo.)
> >
> > Other chargers are a lot cheaper (Originally $300, then $259 right at
> >   the end.)
> >
> > Other chargers you can actually buy!  (I don't think any Alpha 4s have
> >   been made since 2005, and even then you had to jump through hoops
> >   to get one.)
> >
> > Other chargers are supported!  (I've no idea if the Alpha 4 still is
> >   or not.  The fact that several of the pages on their web site have
> >   been blanked out, such as the home page, the ordering page and the
> >   `contact us' page, but not some others, is a very bad sign.)
> >
> > As of 2008, the only really special features that the Alpha 4 has is
> > that 1) it can charge 4 packs at once and 2) it's got that 1970s retro
> > look, if you're into that.  And feature #1 isn't even that special
> > any more.
> >
> > Perhaps in the past the Alpha 4 was king, but it hasn't been for
> > years.
> >
> > Personally, when I need to charge multiple RX or TX packs slowly, I
> > use my $30 Hobbico R/C mlti-charger (LXL331) with four outputs.  No
> > peak charging, granted, but occasional slow chargings without peak
> > detection are a good thing.  It beats four wall-warts anyways.  And
> > for fast charging and cycling and such, I use my GP Triton.
> >
> > -- 
> > Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something ...
> >
> > --
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[RCSE] Chargers

2008-06-03 Thread D.O. Darnell


I think all of  you are right with exceptions. Im sure there are  
several good chargers, but few which do it all.


I have an Alpha 4 and have enjoyed it for its features for more than  
ten years, during which it has worked flawlessly.
It does have limitations, but it puts a longer lasting charge than  
say, the Sirius that I use for my quick (field) charger.  I usually  
use my ALPHA after a flying session for two planes and one  
transmitter, and yes,, it does have a limitation of 1 amp total output  
at any given time.  This is not a problem, however in the application  
I use it for.  When I forget to charge, or it has been a while since,  
or if I need to fly in the next 30 minutes, I use my Sirius, which  
produces a "peaky" charge that is usually sufficient for 1 minute of  
flying for each one minute of charge.  (my rule).
The Alpha is great for recycling too.  My Multiplex NC 5A is superior  
however because of multiple charge/discharge cycling ability, plus,  
its a good field charger for electric Nicads or NiMhs power packs  
which are, however anachronistic.


But neither the Alpha nor the Sirius is  the answer for Lipos.  I have  
recently ordered a Pro Peak Prodigy which can charge 1-5 cell  
Lithiums, 1-14 cell Ni-Cds and Ni-MHs, and 2-12V lead acid batteries  
all at an adjustable rate of .1-5 amps output (Up to 50 watts total  
charge output)! It can even cycle and slow-discharge from 0.1 to 1 amp  
(5 watt maximum). The Prodigy is an affordable, reliable, versatile  
charger  available at Global Hobby.com and is $95.



d.o.







Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:23:12 -0500
From: Doug McLaren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: JAMES EALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Peter Schlitzkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] AC/DC
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 11:59:45AM -0400, JAMES EALY wrote:

| You can not beat the ALPHA 4 (charger/discharger/maintainance)

Of course you can.

Other chargers can charge at higher rates.

Other chargers can charge more cells (granted, not such a big issue  
for

  a charger that can only do one amp total between all it's outputs.)

Other chargers can do more chemistries (i.e. LiPo.)

Other chargers are a lot cheaper (Originally $300, then $259 right at
  the end.)

Other chargers you can actually buy!  (I don't think any Alpha 4s have
  been made since 2005, and even then you had to jump through hoops
  to get one.)

Other chargers are supported!  (I've no idea if the Alpha 4 still is
  or not.  The fact that several of the pages on their web site have
  been blanked out, such as the home page, the ordering page and the
  `contact us' page, but not some others, is a very bad sign.)

As of 2008, the only really special features that the Alpha 4 has is
that 1) it can charge 4 packs at once and 2) it's got that 1970s retro
look, if you're into that.  And feature #1 isn't even that special
any more.

Perhaps in the past the Alpha 4 was king, but it hasn't been for
years.

Personally, when I need to charge multiple RX or TX packs slowly, I
use my $30 Hobbico R/C mlti-charger (LXL331) with four outputs.  No
peak charging, granted, but occasional slow chargings without peak
detection are a good thing.  It beats four wall-warts anyways.  And
for fast charging and cycling and such, I use my GP Triton.

--
Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something ...

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Re: [RCSE] AC/DC

2008-06-03 Thread Doug McLaren
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 11:59:45AM -0400, JAMES EALY wrote:

| You can not beat the ALPHA 4 (charger/discharger/maintainance)

Of course you can.

Other chargers can charge at higher rates.

Other chargers can charge more cells (granted, not such a big issue for
   a charger that can only do one amp total between all it's outputs.)

Other chargers can do more chemistries (i.e. LiPo.)

Other chargers are a lot cheaper (Originally $300, then $259 right at
   the end.)

Other chargers you can actually buy!  (I don't think any Alpha 4s have
   been made since 2005, and even then you had to jump through hoops
   to get one.)

Other chargers are supported!  (I've no idea if the Alpha 4 still is
   or not.  The fact that several of the pages on their web site have
   been blanked out, such as the home page, the ordering page and the
   `contact us' page, but not some others, is a very bad sign.)

As of 2008, the only really special features that the Alpha 4 has is
that 1) it can charge 4 packs at once and 2) it's got that 1970s retro
look, if you're into that.  And feature #1 isn't even that special
any more.

Perhaps in the past the Alpha 4 was king, but it hasn't been for
years.

Personally, when I need to charge multiple RX or TX packs slowly, I
use my $30 Hobbico R/C mlti-charger (LXL331) with four outputs.  No
peak charging, granted, but occasional slow chargings without peak
detection are a good thing.  It beats four wall-warts anyways.  And
for fast charging and cycling and such, I use my GP Triton.

-- 
Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[RCSE] 2008 Nats Registration Extended to June 14

2008-06-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry if this is a duplicate, some said they didn't get through RCSE earlier.

Because of the economy and other factors the deadline for the Nats 2008 
registration has been extended to June 14, 2008. Please be sure to get your 
applications in ASAP so we can get you added to the matrix.

Thanks

Dennis Hoyle
2008 Nats Registrar
WMSS
AMA# SNUT
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[RCSE] Ovss #2 Bob Steele

2008-06-03 Thread Denny Zech
Ovss #2 is coming to Fort Wayne this weekend.  Weather looks hot and 
sunny.  We will set a winch friday afternoon for fun flying.


http://www.loftrc.org/bobsteele.htm

Pilots meeting 9:30 both saturday and sunday, flying immediately 
afterward.  Plan to fly late saturday.


Denny Zech
LSF II
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