RE: [RCSE] Re: PLEEEEEEASE REEEEEAD! IT WAS ON GOOD MORNINGAMERICATODAYSHOW...]]
That whole deal was chump change anyway. Can you believe that in the last 5 weeks I've been the grand prize winner in four different European lotteries??!! It's so amazing. The incredible part is that I never even entered any of them!! I've got something like 35 million euros coming to me. (Please don't tell anyone I sent this post. All the lottery people who contacted me said I should keep my winnings secret until after they process all of my personal info and my funds get released) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release Date: 11/18/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] need futaba 9Z 4 servo wing programming help
I'm hoping someone might be able to send me their program setup for a four servo wing sailplane using the 9Z. My radio is the older, pre-WC version, and the plane I'm trying to set up is an Opus. I'm pretty close but I have a couple of problems that are stumping me. Aileron differential (ADF) only affects the ailerons and not the flaps that work along with the ailerons. If I use ATV (adjustable travel volume) to limit the range of the flap motion, I end up with limited down flap available in butterfly mode. I need full 140% down flap range with crow (butterfly) deployed for maximum down flap on landing approach. However I don't need anywhere near 140% down flap travel when the flaps are working as ailerons. Unfortunately, limiting the flap range outside of crow programming seems to have the effect of reducing the available flap range within crow. Thanks in advance for any help! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.2/170 - Release Date: 11/15/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] D9pin assignments
I just happened to have wired my first ever D9 connector for a four servo wing earlier today. Here’s how I did it. “S” equals signal. “O” stands for an unused pin. Each + and – pin on the bottom row has two wires attached. (Both left servos on one side, both right servos on the other.) It worked just fine for me. After I got all the wiring done, I splooged epoxy mixed with micro balloons around the terminals to seal them and strengthen the connection. +-0-+ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] How to mount a v tail
Try making a block that will sit on top of the v-tail at the root. (Angle the bottom of the block to match the v-tail angle.) Now you can set a small bubble level on the block to measure the v-tail incidence. Raise the tail until the bubble is perfectly centered, and then use a meter to set the wing incidence. I’ve never flown a Snipe, but I doubt you’ll need that much positive incidence. I’d start around 1 degree I think. (Enough to be sure it isn’t negative.) My own fast wingerons are set up at 0-0, or very close to it. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/106 - Release Date: 9/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/106 - Release Date: 9/19/2005 <>
[RCSE] Another foamie wingeron
In case anybody might be interested, here's some links to some video and info about an EPP wingeron I designed called the Epperon. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416440 (Links to some video) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157940&highlight=epperon + (Design thread.) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161286&highlight=epperon + (Build thread) There are several other Epperon related threads on the R/C groups website that can be found by doing a search. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Servo sale at Servo City
I was reading this thread at R/C groups today and I thought it was worth passing on here. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415913#post4304995 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.23/99 - Release Date: 9/12/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Death to RCR
Thirty two years ago, when I was twelve, my older brother brought an issue of RCM into my parent's home. I have no idea who gave it to him or why he brought it home, because he never even read it. I, however, read and re-read that issue until I wore it out. It was another six years before I could afford to get started in R/C, but in the meantime, I haunted the newsstands every month, eagerly waiting for the next issue of RCM to arrive. After all these years, model airplanes are still the joy of my life. These days, I get most of my model airplane related news and information from the internet, and I only buy model aviation magazines on occasion. Still, for me, it is a sad thing to realize that RCM will be no more. My RCM magazines were the treasures of my youth, and the source of many of my hopes and dreams. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/81 - Release Date: 8/24/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] What is the best R/C soaring related competition/meet/funfly to go to
Best all round sloper's event: Tri-Slope Six-Pack in Richland, Washington. http://www.shredair.com/ Awesome slope sites, lots of pilots, friendly fun flying get together, and every type of slope plane you can imagine shows up. Best PSS slope event: Inland Slope Rebels annual PSS Festival at Cajon Pass, California. http://www.inlandsloperebels.com/04pssfest/04pssfest.html Imagine seeing hundreds of the most drop dead gorgeous slope planes you've ever seen all gathered together in one place. No hanger queens either, they all come to fly! -Original Message- From: glide [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:24 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] What is the best R/C soaring related competition/meet/funfly to go to Aloha to all. I’ve noticed quite a few organized competitions, meets, and fun flys over the past several months posted here on RCSE. I’ve “never been” to the mainland but if I did go, I would want to setup my itinerary to include one of these R/C competitions, meets, or fun flys. From people’s experience and unbiased opinions☺, what would be the best organized competitions, meets, or fun flys have they encountered? I’m also concerned about local accommodations (hotels, camping sites if I decide to camp out, etc.). I would like to hang out with the local flyers and see their flying sites also before and after the organized meet if possible. I would rather go to something that is soaring related, but I would consider other R/C meets like TOC and R/C shows and exhibitions just as long it is worthwhile to check out. Aloha to all on RCSE, Al Battad - WH6VE AMA #506981 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.9/62 - Release Date: 8/2/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.9/62 - Release Date: 8/2/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] The Gordy rule
Gordy's post about a model hydoplane meets the Gordy rule, which is the only allowable exception to the "all posts must be soaring related" rule. According to the Gordy rule, if a post interests Gordy, it should interest everyone else too, and therefore does not need to be soaring related. Conversely, if a post does not interest Gordy, the post is spam and should never have been posted. This part of the Gordy rule may be freely applied to posts that are indeed soaring related. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 7/28/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Math anyone?
It's quite simple. Weight divided by area. (Number of ounces divided by number of square feet.) Let's say you have 325 sq in of wing area and your plane weights 28 oz. There is 144 sq inches in a square foot, so that means you have 2.257 sq ft of area. (325/144). Now divide 28 oz by 2.257 and you have your wing loading in oz per square foot. (12.4 oz/ft). It's quite simple. Weight divided by area. (Number of ounces divided by number of square feet.) Let's say you have 325 sq in of wing area and your plane weights 28 oz. There is 144 sq inches in a square foot, so that means you have 2.257 sq ft of area. (325/144). Now divide 28 oz by 2.257 and you have your wing loading in oz per square foot. (12.4 oz/ft). -Original Message- From: Don & Lisa Copley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 7:39 PM To: Soaring Digest Subject: [RCSE] Math anyone? What is the math formula for figuring wing loading? Thanks, Don -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] "one thing I have learned about those cool mini electric helis"
One thing I’ve learned is that if Gordy ever finds a post on RCSE that has nothing to do with soaring, we all hear about it. The second thing I’ve learned is that if Gordy thinks it’s interesting, he thinks everyone else should be interested too. Conversely, if it doesn’t interest Gordy, it’s spam. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 4/16/2005
RE: [RCSE] vacuum pumps
I got mine from Ed Berris at Skyking R/C. His pumps are slightly used, but in perfect working condition. He sells them for a fraction of the price when new. His supply is limited, so get one while you can. Tell him Brian Courtice sent you. I've deal with Ed a number of times and he's a terrific fellow to deal with. -Original Message- From: Bill Johns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:01 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] vacuum pumps At 03:28 PM 4/5/2005, Brian Courtice wrote: >Here's a link to my first ever vacuum bagging project. Thank you Phil >Barnes for the carbon fabric and the instructional video! > >I am using a Gast pump that runs constantly. I've read where several folks are using Gast pumps. I went to the Gast pump web page and I'll be darned if they don't make more than one model of pump. In fact they make lots and lots and lots of different types of pumps. For those who are using Gast pumps, which model? Are folks using diaphragm pumps successfully for continuous duty applications? Does anyone have a pump they want to part with for a reasonable price?? Contact me off line on that one. Thanks, Bill Johns -- Goals are deceptive. The unaimed arrow never misses. Bill Johns Colton, WA USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 4/5/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 4/5/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Re: Vacuum Bagging
Here's a link to my first ever vacuum bagging project. Thank you Phil Barnes for the carbon fabric and the instructional video! I am using a Gast pump that runs constantly. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3559182#post3559182 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 4/5/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] New videos / RCGroups withdrawals
My own primary soaring interest is slope. The slope forum on R/C Groups is hands down the best on the net. Lot's of new posts everyday, with detailed build threads, construction techniques, photos, videos, site information, etc. There are more pictures and fresh slope related content posted on R/C Groups in a few days than there is in all of the combined R/C printed magazines in a year. The HLG forum is also very good, as is the composites forum. For those into electrics, there are also some very nice electric's forums. It's a terrific resource. It's also been down for two days, and I'm jonesing! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 2/27/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] New videos / RCGroups withdrawals
Weasels in 25mph winds? Oh, the horror! When are you guys from SB gonna start flying some REAL airplanes! ;) Nice job on the video and editing as usual Steve. What's up with R/C Groups anyway? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 2/25/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Gliding Ants
What was the classic line from Toy Story? Something like 'That wasn't flying, it was falling with style!" -Original Message- From: Scobie Puchtler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:48 PM To: 'James V. Bacus'; RCSE Subject: RE: [RCSE] Gliding Ants These gliding ants are very cool, though it would appear that their glide ratio is pretty bad. Interesting that a bad glide ratio actually serves them pretty well in this case. When they want to get away from a predator, a quick (efficient) glide back to the tree wouldn't be all that great a tool, while a poor (very near falling) glide back to the tree that gets them further out of harms way, but still with a good shot at returning home, is just the ticket. The one in the video looks like about 1:30, (NOT 30:1) so a scale-sloper-RC-model-gliding-ant would need to be reserved for those really ballistic slope days. Lift, Scobie in Seattle JVB wrote: I just read this interesting article on this species of ants that can glide. I thought I might share the link here... http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2005/02/09_ants.shtml Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Harley asked to see our recent projects.
The next project I do is going to be a wingeron. I've been infatuated with wingerons ever since Harley published the Orca way back when. I plan to push my own buildings skills envelope on this one, because I will be giving vacuum bagging a try for the first time. The plane isn't even started yet, but I've been doing some extensive R&D to get ready. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324367&highlight=ultron -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Harley asked to see our recent projects.
Since you asked Harley, here are a few of mine. :) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283674 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309605&highlight=epperon http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161286&highlight=epperon http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157940&highlight=epperon http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=308944&highlight=fw190 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261578 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=260553 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140924&highlight=tuffpla nes+electron+california+sailplanes+build http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62133&highlight=another+ spitfire+project http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92476&highlight=foamies+ 101 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250084&highlight=sr+bd5 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129924 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96032 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236689 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211017 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111092 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] lawyers and kits: Off topic? Not!
Brian, Well said, but as I have been told by many wise people, he feeds off of this stuff. Patrick Conway You're probably right Patrick. I‘ve always believed that if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything, so you will very rarely see me posting critical comments. It just really irks me to have Gordy interrupt a thread I was following with considerable interest, just to have him tell me that the thread is spam, and by the way, "I’m in Tennessee this week and I’m having transmission problems." Now that’s important! No spam there. My 1999 Ford Ranger needs a brake job. Should I alert the list? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Lawyers, guns and money....
There was nothing tongue in cheek about it. He claimed the subject matter was off topic and that people anyone who joined the thread was spamming the list. Then he started talking about his stork. That's called deliberate thread hijacking. I guess I should be amused. -Original Message- From: Bill H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 4:22 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Lawyers, guns and money Geeze can't grown-ups on this exchange take a tounge in cheek joke by Gordy anymore. Anyone that really knows him would call him anything but an "Elitist" He drives a pickup truck for gosh sakes! Bill Heishman -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] lawyers and kits: Off topic? Not!
Let’s try to explain this so you are no longer so mystified Gordy. For some of us, our favorite soaring airplanes are scale models of military and civilian aircraft. If the producers of our favorite slope soaring airplanes must cease production due to lawsuits over copyrights and licensing issues, than a large part of our enjoyment of this hobby (RC Soaring) is directly affected. Maybe PSS Slope planes have nothing to do with your own soaring interests Gordy, but they are very important to some of us. Am I a “spammer” because I am interested in discussing topics that don’t interest you? Why not be whacky and cease berating those of us who do not have exactly the same interests as your own. Once more, your elitist, condescending, and self righteous attitude has polluted this forum. Why must you constantly attempt to dictate the content of this exchange? This exchange is ours, not yours! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Anyone fly today? I did!
H. "Airhog" might be an appropriate name. It sounds to me like Uncle Jim monopolized the stick time, and he flew it until he broke it! :) -Original Message- From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:23 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Anyone fly today? I did! Was over at the in-laws and my nephew was given an airhogs r/c extreme plane. Electric motor, rudder only and it's not proportional. Got it built, and took it out for it's maiden flight, and the little sucker worked well, and I got it up there. Started working upwind on a slight hill and had it going up even after the motor had faded away... got little Rays hands on the sticks for a few seconds but he was too excited to drive it. And then uncle Jim hit something he shouldn't have and lost the only propeller. 8-) I need to find some airhog propellers 8-) Cool little toy, we never had things like that when I younger. 8-)) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.816 / Virus Database: 554 - Release Date: 12/14/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.816 / Virus Database: 554 - Release Date: 12/14/2004 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Fut 14MZ - Same old "revolutionary" Multiplex ideas
Your trusty Tower Hobbies gold radio was a re-labeled Futaba product. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.816 / Virus Database: 554 - Release Date: 12/14/2004 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Re: Anyone flown an "Ebay" Discus?
This Condor guy has been all over the internet for the last few days making multiple posts about AMD products. He claims to have owned, flown, and loved just about every plane AMD has ever sold. He's made dozens of posts and every one of them has been wildly supportive of all things AMD. His motives are suspect in my own humble opinion. -Original Message- From: Condor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 2:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Re: Anyone flown an "Ebay" Discus? > I keep seeing these scale ships popping up on ebay. Anyone know who > makes > the kit and what it flies like? Looks like there is a Discus and > Ventus. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1200&item=5928851 017&rd=1 > > Kristopher > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note > that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only > format with MIME turned off. I have both the Vertus and Discus. Both fly great. I had no issues with any of the parts, but maybe I got lucky with the batch that I received. I got them both for around $200 each, and $45 shipping. I don't know what happened or what went wrong, but I have no issues. Also, you might want to point your browser at thier ebay feedback. If there kits are such, dare I use profanity, CRAP, then why aren't people making this clear in the least bit via the feedback mechanism. One could leave feedback along the lines, 'Kit delivered, but it sucks" or SOMETHING that indicates WARPED WINGS, cracked body, gaps in the wing tip ... SOMETHING along the lines of what has been so over reported here. Why don't we see this feedback from the people who actually BUY the kit?!? I know why :) http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=yuejin2002 &item=5929361117&iid=5929361117&frm=1883&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:SFS Yes I see one customer complaining about missing parts, and another complaining about a dead car radion, but I CAN'T for the life of me see ANY feedback about warped wings, low quality, seperating wing layers ... where please someone show me the light! PLEASE! Man I seached back serveral months just now, and evern looked at the auctions for the Vertus and the Discus ... ALL POSITIVE FEEDBACK!?!?!?!?! WHY I say feedback for over 30 Vertus sales ... not a single complaint ... what am I missing here?!? I am looking and not a single serperation layer. Not a single complaint ... ah I know ... the winning bids are really ALL employees of AMD. No wonder they have over 2100 positive feeback on thier products ... NOT! I have thier products and love them. -- Condor Condor's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=48030 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=292438 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.796 / Virus Database: 540 - Release Date: 11/13/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.796 / Virus Database: 540 - Release Date: 11/13/2004 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Spelling problems ( Should be Grammer problems)
Isn't it amusingly ironic that whenever someone decides to point out someone else's errors in spelling and grammar, they invariably make errors of their own? :) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.585 / Virus Database: 370 - Release Date: 2/11/2004 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] zipper skin, 1/32 too thick?
I don't think you will have any problem at all with the thicker wing skins. The wing will be stiff and stronger and may even fly better. The little bit of extra weight wont hurt, it will just make your plane a little faster. Most slopers end up flying with extra ballast anyway. The extra airfoil thickness is pretty negligible too. I doubt you would see a difference in airfoil performance. I like to use Dave Brown's Southern Sourgum for sheeting foam cores. It makes a very strong bond that will never delaminate. I have also used wing sheeting tape quite a few times. Its kinda like double sided tape, except there is no film, just the glue. I've never had a delam with sheeting tape either. I did try 3m77 once. (Old type.) I noticed the sheeting lifting off the cores a little around the edges after I took the wing out from under the weights I used to press on the sheeting. When using weights, and not vacuum, there tends to be less pressure out at the edge of the wing. Using vacuum, that probably wont happen. In my case I put a little carpenters glue under the edges and the wing was fine. I flew that wing for years without a problem. Weldwood contact cement works well too. It's a lot like the Sourgum. Brush it onto the core and the sheeting and let it dry, then attach the wing sheeting. Very aggressive bond. Good luck!! -Original Message- From: mlcleary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 2:44 PM To: Soaring@Airage. Com Subject: [RCSE] zipper skin, 1/32 too thick? I'm building a Zipper that I purchased from one of our fine members. It calls for 1/64 ply skin, I have some 1/32 ply. I'm thinking that the thicker skin will make it more Martin proof... Will the extra weight and thicker foil make it too much of a hog? Also, will 3M 77 (old version) be strong enough for the skins if I use a vac/bag? Martin Cleary Cleary Bros. Landscape Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 11/25/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 11/25/2002 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] 2002 F3J WC flyoffs...re: Joe Wurts
I just wanted to put in my two cents and say that I thought Joe Wurts comments about the WC's showed some real class. Joe essentially said that he flew his best but came up short, and got narrowly defeated by a pilot who deserved to win. It would be so easy for someone who has been a world champion several times, and who was beaten this time by less than a point, to say that he had been robbed or that he lost only because of some bad luck. You are still a champ as far as I am concerned Joe! -Original Message-From: joe wurts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 2:10 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [RCSE] 2002 F3J WC flyoffs Hi all, Turned out to be a landing contest today, as the air was pretty good. Arend Borst flew very well, and is now the deserving F3J world champion. It came down to a fraction of a second in the end. Arend finally had some good luck in the end, as two pilots mid-aired in the fourth round, so it was reflown. He got a 1000 point flight in the reflight which secured his win, by all of 0.7 of a point! I ended up in second place, and Pasi Vaisanen of Sweden came in third. As to the juniors, they had to deal with the really tough air in the early morning. Chris Jolly flew very well to get a second place. Toby Lammlein (sp?) of Germany placed first, and Thomas Fischer of Germany placed third. David McCarthy had some difficulties, as did Paul Griebenow, and finished 9th and 10th respectively. The US juniors can hold their heads high, they flew very well in some difficult conditions in the flyoffs. There has been some discussions on what rules modifications can be made to make the event more of a soaring event, and less of landing contest. Iäm not sure what can be done to emphasize the soaring aspect more. The only thing that I can think of offhand is to possibly deemphasize the importance of the landings. Maybe make the landings worth only 10 points as opposed to 100 points. Also, in the flyoffs, why have a throwout? The first round of the flyoffs this time was the only round that showed the thermal skills of the pilots in the scores, at least for the seniors. The rest of the rounds were landing contests. Unfortunately, I fell short of the mark this time. Still, I feel proud to have represented the US, and feel that I flew the best that I could have. Thanks for all of the support that the US team has received from everyone. Joe Wurts Do You Yahoo!?HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs
[RCSE] More maui pictures posted today.
I just uploaded another batch of Maui slope action. This time it even works right! See http://www.aloha.net/~bugz/new2/index.html for todays pics. Also http://www.aloha.net/~bugz/new/index.html for yesterdays pics. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 11/24/2001 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Soaring Sites on Maui?
Aloha! I live on Maui, and would be happy to hook up with you and show you where to fly. There has been little or no wind in the last 10 days, hopefully that will end before you get here!! There is good lift here probably 300 days out of a year. I live in the Lahaina area, and there are a few of us that fly a slope close to here. It provides awesome lift, but it is a rough and rocky area, so you will want a good foamie there. On weekends we go to a much larger slope that is a longer drive. Nice big grass landing area and monster lift. One of the best slopes on the planet. ANYTHING will fly there. Glass planes will scream. There is another group of guys that fly an inland slope that works well for thermal type planes. Everything from gentle ladies to 1/3 scale glass can be found flying there. That spot also has a DS groove. So the answer is that there is a suitible place to fly anything you own and can get on an airplane!! You can call me at 1-808-665-0529. I am home from work usualy by 2:00pm. I am off on Tuesday and Wednesday. I will look forward to flying with you if you look me up. Brian Courtice -Original Message- From: > Fibertac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 7:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Soaring Sites on Maui? Hi there I will be going to Maui on Nov29 to Dec 9th for some surf and soaring and was wondering if there is some cool spots to Fly. This is a leisure trip so i intend to bring a few models and spent some time if possible in the wind :) Two questions for the Resident experts from Maui 1. where to fly(I'll be staying in Lahina with a rental car) 2. What to expect from the winds so i can properly select a few moddels to travel with shall i bring glass? Foam? Heavy? Light? Any help would totally stoke me. Thanks, see ya soon!! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 9/25/2001 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 9/25/2001 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] NINJA: was Built-up Balsa slope kits?
Years ago, the Sig Ninja was my first ever slope plane. Epp foam had not yet made the scene. The plane flew well and looked good, but the fuselage was extremely weak. Anything less than a perfect landing resulted in structural damage every time. A couple of years later there was even an article in RCM magazine about how to build your own fuselage to replace the inadequate one the kit comes with. I live in Hawaii, and fly slope in high winds a lot. Most of my planes are foamies. I do supplement the stock wing spars with a layer of heavy glass top and bottom, I use lots of filament tape barrel wrapping on the fuse for extra stiffness, and sometimes I replace the tail parts with wood, again to stiffen up the plane and reduce drag. Currently I like the Patton Aircraft planes and the SR Hobbies BD5. They have a better look and higher performance than the Dave's planes. Put a little ballast on a well built example of one of these planes, and it will rock. Huge, huge consecutive loops, multiple rolls at about one and a half per second roll rate, very respectable speed, and unlimited inverted flight. Lots of fun, and absolutely no "pucker factor" when landing time comes. I also fly original designs with ply sheeted foam wings and heavy duty wood fuselages, similar in layout and performance to the Slope Scale type planes. Those planes are definitely faster and retain more energy. They also require a lot more concentration to fly and can be a handful to land. If I had to choose between a Ninja and a good foamie, I'd take the foamy. If your home slope has a lot of wind and you have a lot of confidence in your piloting skills, try a Slope Scale type built up plane. Good Luck -Original Message- From: Jeff Nibler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Built-up Balsa slope kits? Bruce and Keith... you both recommended the SIG Ninja. It looks right along the lines of what I'm looking for. I live in Oregon and the slope winds here can be strong a lot of the time. With some extra ballast, how does this plane handle strong winds? What about in times of light lift? Also, how durable is it compared to an all EPP ship? Thanks in advance!! Jeff >From: "Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Jeff Nibler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [RCSE] Built-up Balsa slope kits? >Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:47:26 -0800 > >Try this one maybe it will fill the bill > >http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/258663.htm > >I have one and I'am very happy with it > >Bruce > >- Original Message - >From: "Jeff Nibler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 9:28 AM >Subject: [RCSE] Built-up Balsa slope kits? > > > > Hi all. I'm in need of a slope plane and have never owned one before. >I > > currently have a 2M Spirit and a Chrysalis HLG. I'm fairly new to the >sport > > but am catching on fast. Since thermal soaring is next to impossible >where > > I live in winter, I'd like to build a nice slope ship. Most of the >slope > > kits I see online are glass or carbon/glass ARF type kits. I was >wondering > > if anyone could recommend a good balsa slope kit. I can put together >about > > anything and my only criteria is that it have ailerons, and I'd like it >to > > be reasonably sized (maybe around 2 meters or larger). Part of the >reason > > for the size is that around here, slope lift is pretty strong so it >needs >to > > have some weight to it. > > > > About the only kit I've found so far is the Dragonfly from Dream >Catcher. > > Has anyone had any experience with this plane? The only thing I don't >like > > is that it is on the smaller side with a 50" span and 12 oz weight. > > > > Alright, thanks in advance for any kit advice! > > > > -Jeff > > > > _ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" >and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 9/25/2001 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 9/25/2001 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] lefthanded downwind turns during gravityless DS flight
Sheesh guys... Gimmie a break already. ;) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 12/5/00 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Using shrink tube
I use a heat gun. In a pinch a match held an inch or two away from the tubing will work fine. -Original Message- From: Mark E. Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 7:40 PM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] Using shrink tube Please, What is the best way to use shrink tube? So far I have learned that using a soldering iron is the worst way to use shrink tube as it just makes a mess. Thanks in advance, Mark J. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 12/5/00 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 12/5/00 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] DS Maui?? Uh HUh Uh Huh. :)
The place was Mulahia. The pilot was some guy named Joe something or other. He's supposedly some big shot; I guess he has won a lot of model airplane contests. He was kind of a quiet dude. The first I saw him he was preparing my friend Gerald's very heavy F3b type plane for a flight. He flew it around for few minutes and then brought it in for a landing. He caught it. It was Joe's first ever flight on a borrowed airplane at a site he had never flown before. A few minutes later Joe launched the airplane again. This time he started doing this weird circular pattern. Up above the horizon away from the slope, back around behind the hill, down into the shallow gully, back up into the wind again. Over and over. Faster and faster. And faster. There is a strand of trees right behind where he was flying. I mean RIGHT behind. You could see the shadow of his airplane on the leaves of the trees. He was coming close. Very close. Gerald's airplane started to make a sound nobody had ever heard it make before. We all learned something that day. Some of us have been following the goings on in this hobby for 20 years or more. This was new. something we have never seen before. We may have to find a new place to park our cars now. The DS grove that Joe Wurts pioneered at Camp Mulahia on the island of Maui a few days ago is small. There are a bunch of trees at the high side. Big trees. There is usually a bunch of cars parked at the low side. Big cars. Some of them are trucks even. A while later I went down to the coast to fly my Patton Mustang. Joe and Ted stopped by. Joe flew my airplane for a few minutes. "Thanks," he said, "Nice airplane, it flies well." I may bronze that airplane and hang it on my shop wall. Not. It's my best sloper. Well, my best foamie sloper at least. I will fly it until I pulverize it. In the meantime I think I need something new. Something that will fly well in that narrow grove at Mulahia... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.219 / Virus Database: 103 - Release Date: 12/5/00 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]