Re: [RCSE] "As the Current Reigning World Champion Woody Pilot..." PT 1 1/2 SWC & 2.4
Just wanted to clarify Gordy's comments about the use of multiple receivers within the Spektrum system. It's a function of the shorter wavelength (higher frequency). With a single receiver there is the potential for a secondary signal, reflected from structure/object within the model, to arrive 180 degrees out of phase and cancel the 'good' signal. Having multiple receivers makes this impossible and is one of the advantages of the Spektrum system. This situation is not unique to Spektrum, but all 2.4ghz systems. The amount of separation required is only a few inches, but depending on the receiver location can be as far as 36" distant. Craig. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: [RCSE] "As the Current Reigning World Champion Woody Pilot..." PT 1 1/2 SWC & 2.4 And finally...well not finally cuz its still early in this game...2.4 news. I flew 2.4 in my Marauder and a handful of guys flew various brands in their 2.4 friendly RES and Open ships. It does work if you apply those little gray cells when installing. I had a really good chat with Peter Goldsmith (Horizon Hobby) during a lull in the action and I threw a couple of what-if's at him concerning concern for 2.4 limitations...and well, he was ready for them! Yep, its about 40 Spectrum TX's that can be on at once, and it while it would be possible for a situation to arise in some fictional situation where someone would be inconvenienced...all indications in actual contest conditions so faras in real world versus hypotheticalall indications are that its a case of don't worry...be REAL happy! This was my first opportunity to experience the out right feeling of freedom of having a 2.4 system at a contest. Each time they'd call me up to fly my woody, hand me the 16 clip I had registered for my other classes, I'd just smile, knowing that it no longer applied...none of 'it'. And flying that woody that took the MMGliderTech boys a lot of hours of meticulous building to create...knowing that it was safe from at least one threat of undeserved destruction. Each timeit sunk in a little deeper, that feeling of first freedom, then real realization of what it meant to not even consider the possibilities, responsibilities and liabilities of having to have a 'channel'. It really made me understand how worth it is would be to do the 'work' of getting those RX's installed correctly. My chat with Peter G also enlightened me about why they decided on the two RX system...its pretty logical actually. The 2.4 signal is no more or less affected by the carbon fuses we use in all of our molded ships today than 72mhz is. But we figured out how to overcome the carbon problem...by extending the antenna and allowing it to dangle free of RF signal shading caused by wings and fuses. Spectrum's dual RX's provide actual triangulation system for the signals that pass back and forth, from TX to RXs', a wider 'backstop' of sorts for the TX signal to be caught with...two hands instead of one to get a good grip on the information your thumb is trying to get to the servos. A bit of over kill for most RC applications but just enough for RC sailplanes...that fly wa off, in sometimes foggy weather, sometimes blocked or deflected by tree tops, antenna and power towers..and of course timer's bellies :-). This kind of thinking comes from a company with two top RC sailplane guys in positions to offer up the 'what-ifs' to designers and engineers at the manufacturer levels. Okay does that mean none of the other systems won't or don't work? Nope, but it does give you all some insight I know I didn't have until I had a chance to ask about...after I had some personal experience with 2.4. Currently I don't have non carbon fuselages for my World's Heaviest Carbon Supra Lite, or my Perfect, or Pike Giant, or even my Super AVA...but I have some ideas to try in order to use 2.4 in those airframes successfully. I'll keep you guys posted on my experiments :-). Gordy -- Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.
Re: [RCSE] Wanted JR DS3421 Digital Ultra Torque Mini Servo
Here Mike: http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=JRPSDS3421 In stock and everything. Or maybe try your local hobby shop, throw them a little business. Craig. - Original Message - From: michael morjoseph To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:08 AM Subject: [RCSE] Wanted JR DS3421 Digital Ultra Torque Mini Servo Wanted JR DS3421 Digital Ultra Torque Mini Servo's need 1 or 2 of these servos Let me know what you have Available Thanks.. Mike.M its for my New F3B Toy -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: [RCSE] Best 2 Meter for NATS
Not really. Mike Lachowski was handing us at beating for a while at the Nats last year with his Aegea, a pretty new design. The Organic has nowhere near the wing area of a Duck, and still launches fine. Flying 2M at the Nats, or anywhere, is far more about decision making than ultimate launch height. Not that it doesn't help, but time and again at the Nats you'll see the high guy get beat by a bad turn or bad decision off launch. Craig. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RCSE" Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 1:57 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Best 2 Meter for NATS Once again, the winch requirement excludes the development of new 2M designs and defaults the designs to the main requirement that they only be able to haul the lines up. This requirement only favors those planes that are commercially built or those that have so much wing area and airfoil thickness that we get back into the old design arguments of years past. One of these days a plane will be able to take into account other design factors besides this limited one. IMHO Chris Original Message Subject: [RCSE] Best 2 Meter for NATS From: "Barry Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, January 04, 2008 6:00 am To: "RCSE" Gentleman, Go with the winner... a Organic 2M. Craig Greening won 2007 NATS flying the Organic 2M. Regards, Barry Kennedy Composites www.kennedycomposites.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?
I've actually seen this function on a transmitter. I don't recall whether it was a factory item or the user added it, nor the brand but it was not a modern radio. Maybe Proline or Kraft. Seemed like a good thing to have but it ended up costing the owner an airplane when the button/switch was inadvertently activated and it stayed on, sucking the life from the battery at a great rate. Too much power can be a bad thing too... This was not in the US so spare the FCC stuff... CG. - Original Message - From: "Bill Swingle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Soaring List" Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch? This is an idea I've had myself. A push button Signal Boost function. I like it. But no, I've not heard of it ever being mentioned. Besides it'd be illegal so no licensed tech could do it without risking his license. And I don't know how difficult it'd be to do without risking frying your transmitter. How much power boost would be needed to have a reasonable chance of combating an offending signal? I don't know. Plus, our radio systems are licensed as must accept outside interference. So I don't think even the concept would be agreed upon. Maybe if we turned it into a life safety issue... Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] LJ's gone postal
Just got word from the SWSA field that Larry Jolly is an hour and 15 minutes in and looking good. Fully stocked on hotdogs, spare Tx battery in pocket. Apparently he's flying a Comet but it's hard to tell under all the dust
Re: [RCSE] NATS Entry
Entry form says: Hand Launch, Friday July 22 F3B, Saturday July 23 and Sunday July 24 2 Meter, Monday July 25 and Tuesday July 26 Unlimited, Wednesday July 27 and Thursday July 28. Maybe the F3B thing is a typo, I though it was a J year. - Original Message - From: "Michael Lachowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] NATS Entry The calendar days are "different" this year. Who was there from LSF? What's the plan for the schedule? Bill Malvey wrote: I just noticed that the NATS entry forms are available for download at the AMA site. Seems REALLY early, but oh well. You can get them along with other NATS info here: http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/ ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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Looking for Keith Finkenbiner also
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Re: [RCSE] Icon for sale
Small correction, Larry meant to say it has a JR 3421 on elevator. See a picture of the scheme here: http://www.servoframes.com/images/ljicon03.JPG CG. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:29 PM Subject: [RCSE] Icon for sale I have a brand new Icon seriously less than 10 flights that I would like to sell. The model is complete with ballast tube and instruction manual. The Icon is fitted with 5 JR 368 Digitals and a JR 341 Digital on Elevator. The model has the Hoopes connector and Don's custom 5 cell battery pack. This Icon is has red Fuselage , the wings and stab are Green on top with custom Red and Yellow accents and Red bottoms. I am asking $1900.00 for this model shipping will be extra. I am in Southern California if someone local is interested I can deliver it to you. I will be out of Town until next Monday, I hope to have Email communication if you have questions. I am selling this World Class F3J model because I need to fund a new Cambridge Glide Nav for the Discus. Thanks Larry JollyNo DR Dan you cannot have this model, Don says give somebody else a chance.
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Anybody looking for a cheap moldie I will have the following for sale and pickup at the SWC in Phoenix this weekend. Pics are on the large size, sorry if it loads a little slow. http://home.earthlink.net/~crg13/4sale.html CG. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Triathalon
I disagree. I'd like to at least see what would happen if skegs were not allowed. Sure you'd still have guys overflying occasionally, but I don't think you have the carnage some envisage. Guys would learn how to fly an approach, and not having the skeg as a crutch would force better energy management. An overshoot without a skeg is perhaps safer than one with. Limiting the number of people in the landing zone to just those necessary would help also. It's not always possible to do but there's no need to have all the pilots halfway through the time stacked up behind the tapes. Someone mentioned a few weeks ago about pilots not being able to enter landing zone until a certain time before landing (2 min.?), sounds like a good idea if you have the space to do it. Something's not right when you have a crowd of guys watching the landing of a pilot who just launched for his final round of four minutes or so, to see it determine the outcome of the contest. It's a contest alright, but it isn't thermal duration. Just my thoughts, Craig. - Original Message - From: "Jim Monaco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 6:48 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Triathlon > > And a no skeg rule would be foolish. I sat next to the landing zones at > Visalia and saw a bunch of dangerous overskids all weekend. I can't image > how bad it would have been without skegs! I believe that skegs provide way > more safety than danger. As for energy management, I agree that is the > goal, but the reality is that with the landing tapes marked at 3 inch > intervals, folks will dork the airplanes to get the points, so the guys that > can afford to break their planes will be at the advantage.> Jim Monaco > Rocky Mountain Soaring Association > Denver, CO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Stolen stuff
I experienced some losses in Phoenix this weekend, would appreciate it if anybody could maybe let me know if it should happen to turn up for sale somewhere. I'll be checking the more usual places. There was a ton of generic stuff, but among the more unique stuff was a Wind Dancer, an electric LMR 2M sailplane. Three piece wing, pod and boom fuse, transparent red and yellow covering. One of probably only two flying in the country so difficult to hide. Also a JR XP8103 Tx., different in that it's Mode 1, flap/throttle stick is on the right. Requires a visit to a service center/Horizon to be made 'normal' for most US flyers. Seiko stopwatch. Tons of those around but it has my full name and AMA number engraved on the back. I really don't expect to get any of it back but you never know. Any help greatly appreciated. On a lighter note the F5J event that CASL put on in Phoenix this weekend was a blast, I had a great time as did everybody there. MoM format is where it's at. Thanks, Craig. PS. It's triathlon, not 'triathalon'.. :-/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] nice game crap
My pc decided to mail a virus to the group, sorry about that everyone. For some reason my AV software didn't catch it, checks clean now. Craig. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] IHLGF thoughts
Having decompressed after a great weekend here's a few of my thoughts on being part of the IHLGF experience. Nothing like going back to work to bring you back to earth. Firstly congrats to Joe for the win, I think that makes five straight and seven overall. To watch Joe fly hand launch is something else, he's almost superhuman and was unquestionably the best pilot on the field all weekend. When he's carrying a perfect 9,000 plus a 987 throwout into the finals you know it's going to take something out of the ordinary to stop him winning. It was all I could do to snag a few points from him in the first flyoff heat and stop a perfect 12,000 point win. Thanks also to the TPG crew who did an excellent job. The impound crew ran a tight ship and kept things moving well. The variety of models was interesting. The top ten shows a broader range of types than last year, and mostly flaperon or flapped airplanes. Weights have gone up if anything, my models weigh between 10.5 and 11.5 ounces, I believe this to be typical for four and six servo airplanes now. Certainly the weight is no disadvantage and many people carried ballast on top of this. There was a large number of built up poly DLG's, mainly Photons and on the whole they were impressive. They seem to be plenty strong enough to handle big launches though by their nature lose a little to a straight wing airplane. On the whole pilot skill seems to have noticeably inproved, I only have last year to judge this from but in every heat there were several people to look out for. I have to say a huge thanks to Denny Maize at Polecat Aero who got me a couple of great airplanes to fly, also to Mark Drela and Phil Barnes who had no small part in their creation. And of course to my Team Polecat partner Bruce Davidson (reigning National Champ for those that don't know. :-), for great timing and calling throughout the weekend. Because Bruce made the flyoff also I asked Tim Cone to call for me in the finals and he did a superb job, thanks a million Tim. Looking forward to next year, CG. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re: 8103 landing mode
I'm an in-flight switch flipper (camber, rudder mix on/off, reflex) and have not had a problem. One can learn to remember, enabling landing mode and confirming rudder mix on is part of my check at the abeam point of my approach. Craig. > - Original Message - > From: Quiet Man > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 8:40 AM > Subject: [RCSE] Re: 8103 landing mode > > There may be other radios now, maybe even JR radios that will do what you > want, just make SURE you don't have to flip any switches in flight, > especially getting ready to land, that is NOT the path of the avatar... > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] dlg
Thanks to all who responded with discus launch video url's, got about a million of 'em. Too many to thank individually RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Airtronics Xtals 4sale
Have a brand new Airtronics FM Dual Conversion crystal set for sale, channel 18 (72.150). Got 'em by mistake, asking $30 shipped in the lower 48. Craig. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dive Brakes!!!.are they Spoilers??
There's nothing to say that dive brakes are required to have two 'doors' Charlie. Many aircraft had them on the lower surface of the wing only, located well aft and sometimes perforated. Others have them on either side of the aft fuselage. I don't see why a dual surface spoiler should be a disqualifying item on an RES ship. As long as they are of reaosnable size and not located on the trailing edge it would pose no great advantage other than to reduce or eliminate the usual elevator compensation. Craig. - Original Message - From: "Charles Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Soaring listserver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 2:50 PM Subject: [RCSE] Dive Brakes!!!.are they Spoilers?? > I was allways instructed that dive brakes had two doors, Spoilers one > single on top... > The lower door would not really spoil that much lift. Most of the lift > is on the top surface of a wing... > The bottom door would act more like a dive brake I have flown two > Gliders that have the dive brakes. Schweizer 2-32 & 1-34. Both > gliders had a terminal vilocity dive brakes.. Point the nose straight > down, And the glider would would not exceed terminal!! It was prety > damm cool!!! You can bring these gliders out of the air very quickly!! > The question would be,, How do they state in the rules what a spoiler > configuration is ? Or dive brake??? > Good Luck > Charlie > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
