[RCSE] F/S Victor Arf
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=592619#post6338388 New Cermark VICTOR ARF Website price $149.95 http://www.cermark.com/Merchant2/me...tegory_Code=AAA New Cermark CEM 2820-1200 outrunner brushless motor Website price $59.95 http://www.cermark.com/Merchant2/me...e=CEM-2820-1200 New Cermark 10x8 Cabon-fiber Folding Propeller price $12.00 total new price $221.90 Package deal $175.00 + $12.00 shipping USPS USA only. PayPal only. Thanks, John Fruge MAdera, CA
Re: [RCSE] 33rd CVRC Fall Soaring Festival
The CVRC page is dead for me as well. Can any of you CVRC guys give us an update on what is going on? Thanks, John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632 - Original Message - From: Lex Mierop To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] 33rd CVRC Fall Soaring Festival Phil, What happened to the web site? I went looking for the entry form at www.cvrcsoaring.com and it's a dead page -l -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:06 AMTo: soaring@airage.comSubject: [RCSE] 33rd CVRC Fall Soaring Festival We are running behind on entries from previous years, therefore if you have an interest in participating this year please get your entry in. I am opening up the contest to those who would like to fly more than one class also. The new Woody class this year is taking off well and I am encouraged by the responce. See you on October 7 & 8. Phil Hill Fall Fest CD No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.8/414 - Release Date: 8/9/2006
Re: [RCSE] Further 2-Meters thoughts
"all we need is more Lee's, right? " I have found to get more "Lees" you need more "Ed's". Great Job Ed! John D. Frugé Webmaster MRCC www.modestorcclub.com AMA #695632 - Original Message - From: "Harry DeBoer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ben Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Soaring" ; "LASS Soaring List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:33 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Further 2-Meters thoughts can I get an AMEN! I had the privilege to sign Lee's LSF paperwork for a landing, he is a great kid with a great group supporting him. It can never be said enough WELL DONE Ed and GUYS!! Harry -Original Message- From: Ben Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:24 AM To: Soaring; LASS Soaring List Subject: [RCSE] Further 2-Meters thoughts I don't think that 2-meter is in jeopardy, though I would like to make a few points to reinforce it's importance in the overall soaring world: 1. This hobby needs more youth(s) to continue to grow. 2. Youths (and many new soarers) don't have the experience or the money to fly big ships. 3. Soaring is and will remain a hobby where competition is part and parcel of the experience. 4. 2-meter at the NATS allows those new fliers to compete at a national level in an event that they alone (and not their plane) are the determining factor. Ed Wilson achieved something special this year: he mentored a young dude with a small ship (but big dreams) with the intention of taking him to the NATS. It's a great goal, and one that we think will keep Lee and others like him in this hobby. 2-meter at the NATS is the perfect event to show new fliers what soaring is all about. Since we already have, and will hopefully continue to have, a 2-meter competition -- all we need is more Lee's, right? :) -- ben wilson louisville area soaring society [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://thelocust.org/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/403 - Release Date: 7/28/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Tug info wanted.
I wanted to thank everyone who responded to my Tug question. I got a lot of great info. Thanks RCSE, John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632 - Original Message - From: John D Frugé To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:49 PM Subject: [RCSE] Tug info wanted. I wanted to see if anyone has a Wilga-35 ARF TUG from http://www.icare-rc.com/wilga.htm I would like some feedback / pic's on a gas or electric setup. I plan to go electric. Thanks, John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.0/346 - Release Date: 5/23/2006
[RCSE] Tug info wanted.
I wanted to see if anyone has a Wilga-35 ARF TUG from http://www.icare-rc.com/wilga.htm I would like some feedback / pic's on a gas or electric setup. I plan to go electric. Thanks, John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632
[RCSE] MRCC TD contest & EZ Funfly 4-23
If you around planning to be around Central Valley , CA on Sunday come join us for some flying. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=508410 Thread with pics on RCgroups The First MRCC Easyglider FunFly!! I want to invite any and all of you to come join us (MRCC) for our monthly TD contest Sunday April 23rd. 10am pilots meeting. After were done with the contest we plan to go strait into a Easyglider funfly event maybe 12:20 pm ish. We should have a winch / high start and tow plane @ the site. For those of you who have not been to the MRCC lake site here is some info. Modesto Reservoir is locaded just past Waterford, CA on HWY 132 You will make a left on Reservoir road, then come to the pay shack. Cost is about 6 to 8 bucks to enter the park. After that trun left and head toward the boat launch. you should see the MRCC field on the right just after the turn for the boat launch. Our local TD contests are quite laidback and fun. They cost 5 buck to enter. Come fly with us! The EasyGlider event will be just after the TD contest and is free... Also if you have not been to the Easyglider Thread check it out here. http://bayrc.com/boards/viewtopic.p...der=asc&start=0 Info about the MRCC lake site can be found Here. http://www.modestorcclub.com/Reservoir.htm I have posted some pic's of the flying site and some EZG aerotow we did this past thursday about 1/2 way down the page here. http://modestorcclub.com/john.htmPlease le me know if you will be comming so we can keep and eye out for you. Come Fly With Us!Thanks and hope to see you there, John Fruge [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.modestorcclub.com
Re: [RCSE] Oso De Oro Park in Fresno
"Is this a city wide policy?" I know that its a city wide policy in Turlock, CA (its sucks) They have huge signs posted @ all the Parks / dranage ponds... No doing anything fun... about all you can do is stand or sit on the grass.. as long as its between sun up and sun down :( John Fruge Bill Swingle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just heard that the Oso De Oro city park in Fresno, CA doesn't allow park > flyers. What's up with that? > > Further, the Oso De Oro is tiny! Yet it's manned by a parks a rec employee! > What's happened in Fresno? Did someone get hurt or a lawsuit filed? Is this > a city wide policy? > > Bill Swingle > Janesville, CA > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and > unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in > text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] JR 9303 setup help
Hello, All, I have a JR 9303 with the standard 6 servo Glider setup with the JW 4 flight modes. That being said the landing mode is on the throtle stick and is always on. I wanted to see if there is a way to make the first 1/4 stick or so inactive so when moving the rudder I dont have the flaps move down a bit and no know it or always have to keep checking to see that the throtle stick is in the up most spot. Any help / pointers would be great. Thanks, John Fruge
[RCSE] Skeg Source?
I am looking for a skeg source. I have been using the tape on superskeg skegs but they are small and did not stop as good as others @ SWC and Fresno this year. I am also looking for some fellow (MRCC) club members as well. We need something for some Zenith nose cones and also some Soprano nose cones. Thanks, John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632
Re: [RCSE] Wiring Harness
I beleave there may be a backlog on Wiring Harnesses. I have one on order from Soaring USA , Kennedy Composites and also Mr. Hoopes himself.. I have yet to see any show up yet. Just an FYI, John Fruge Ceres, CA "James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm with Ron... Mr. Hoopes, if you are out there I need the wire harness I > ordered with my Supra from Barry Kennedy... soaring season approaches! ;-) > > > > At 03:05 PM 3/29/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Tom Hoopes, If you are out there please ping me. I need to order a > >wiring harness. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Ron Kukral > >SOAR Chicago > > Jim > Downers Grove, IL > Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR > AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and > unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in > text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] DLG timing CD source needed(Found)
I got the files I needed. Thanks RCSE, John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632 - Original Message - From: John D Frugé To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:27 PM Subject: [RCSE] DLG timing CD source needed I am looking for a source for a DLG contest timing CD or the files to make one. Thanks, John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 3/10/2006
[RCSE] DLG timing CD source needed
I am looking for a source for a DLG contest timing CD or the files to make one. Thanks, John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632
Re: [RCSE] CA Kicker
Balsa Products has an 8 oz refill of kicker for $6.25 That is what I use. http://www.balsapr.com/view.asp?id=V907984&pid=glue006 John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632 - Original Message - From: John Ensoll To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 7:32 PM Subject: [RCSE] CA Kicker Gidday all, For some years now I have been purchasing CA Kicker in a pump pot only to lose most due to evaporation. It is more expensive than the glue it hardens and so I was wondering if some one out there knows what the liquid is or knows of some thing that will do the same job as the pricy commercial kicker. Regards, John Ensoll (granddad) No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/279 - Release Date: 3/10/2006
Re: [RCSE] Covers
Here is a Servo cover source: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=413053 His username is "sporter" FYI, John D. Frugé Webmaster MRCC www.modestorcclub.com AMA #695632 - Original Message - From: "Jeff Carr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:58 PM Subject: [RCSE] Covers Hi Guys I am in need of 2 flap covers for the top of the wing on a Tsunami. I was changing the servos over to DS-368 and was using the heat gun to release the servo rails and they deformed. There not real sturdy. So I am looking for some. Can anyone help. These are the small covers on the top side of the Tsunami's center section. Yellow is the color but Im not picky Jeff RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.1/277 - Release Date: 3/8/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] hoops harness
Guys, I need a source for a Hoops harness 3 piece wing (for a Zenith) Thanks, John Fruge RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] ForSale JR 8103 DT Airplane Radio's (Sold)
Both 8103's sold today and were shipped out. Thanks RCSE, John Fruge - Original Message - From: John D Frugé To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:23 AM Subject: [RCSE] ForSale JR 8103 DT Airplane Radio's http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=487625#post5134121 I have them posted on RCGROUPS please use the link above. I will add more info to the post like pictures asap. Here is the text from the post below. " JR 8103 DT Airplane Radio I have 2 8103 DT Airplane Radios with TX module, antenna, and TX battery.These are both used but in good working order. Both of these radios are in great looking shape as well.They both have the Tom Hoops mod. done to one switch (upper left) for DLG launch preset.Both of these radios are in great looking shape as well.I will provide the instructions I used to make this mod and the normal swithif you ever wish to put it back to normal.You can have your choice of TX module on Channel 18, 22 or 25.I am asking $175.00 each Paypal shipped (Firm)Thanks for looking,Reason for selling is to fund a 9303 TX to back up my main 9303 (during TD contests)John FrugeCeres, CA" No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/3/2006
Re: [RCSE] Johnny Berlin
"I am also looking for "Johnny Berlin's contact information. i.e.: e-mail, phone number"" Got it! Thanks RCSE :) John Fruge - Original Message ----- From: John D Frugé To: Soaring@airage.com ; Robert P. Buxton Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Johnny Berlin I am also looking for "Johnny Berlin's contact information. i.e.: e-mail, phone number" Thanks, John Fruge - Original Message - From: Robert P. Buxton To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:00 AM Subject: [RCSE] Johnny Berlin Looking for Johnny Berlin's contact information. i.e.: e-mail, phone number.Regards,Robert Robert P. Buxton105 Oak Hill AvenueLittleton, NH 03561-4811The information contained in this message may be confidential and protected from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/3/2006 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/3/2006
[RCSE] ForSale JR 8103 DT Airplane Radio's
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=487625#post5134121 I have them posted on RCGROUPS please use the link above. I will add more info to the post like pictures asap. Here is the text from the post below. " JR 8103 DT Airplane Radio I have 2 8103 DT Airplane Radios with TX module, antenna, and TX battery.These are both used but in good working order. Both of these radios are in great looking shape as well.They both have the Tom Hoops mod. done to one switch (upper left) for DLG launch preset.Both of these radios are in great looking shape as well.I will provide the instructions I used to make this mod and the normal swithif you ever wish to put it back to normal.You can have your choice of TX module on Channel 18, 22 or 25.I am asking $175.00 each Paypal shipped (Firm)Thanks for looking,Reason for selling is to fund a 9303 TX to back up my main 9303 (during TD contests)John FrugeCeres, CA"
Re: [RCSE] Johnny Berlin
I am also looking for "Johnny Berlin's contact information. i.e.: e-mail, phone number" Thanks, John Fruge - Original Message - From: Robert P. Buxton To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:00 AM Subject: [RCSE] Johnny Berlin Looking for Johnny Berlin's contact information. i.e.: e-mail, phone number.Regards,Robert Robert P. Buxton105 Oak Hill AvenueLittleton, NH 03561-4811The information contained in this message may be confidential and protected from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/3/2006
[RCSE] Removable Skeg System Help
Looking for some setup info on a Zenith Vtail.I would like to know your CG placement, tow hook placement. Comments on how it launches. Also some flight mode setup info. Do you cruse around most of the time in Reflex mode?I know there is some good info on www.f3x.com I am just lookingfor more info from other flyers to try and find what works best for me. Also I talked with a fellow Zenith owner (White and blue V tail) @ the SWC about his Removable Skag system.I guess I need to do better @ names. If you read this I would love to get some more info on the way you did that. I hope to do a removable skeg system for both my Zeniths and my new RES Danny I am about to get. The setup seemed to work quite well. You have to remove the skeg to remove the nosecone. Thanks, John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632
Re: [RCSE] Need a source please (Found)
I found a Source for both. Thanks RCSE :) John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632 - Original Message - From: Sheldon-YNT uDesign To: 'John D Frugé' ; soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:03 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Need a source please John, Check out your local plastics supplier in the Yellow Pages -Sheldon- YNT From: John D Frugé [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:57 PMTo: soaring@airage.comSubject: [RCSE] Need a source please I need to find a source for 1/2" OD lead for ballast slugs. www.f3x.com is out. I am also looking for some G10 fiberglass plate that is 1/8" thick / .125" x 6" x 12" is about all i need. Thanks, John Fruge No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/263 - Release Date: 2/16/2006
Re: [RCSE] Carbon Supra #48 flies - weight < 61 oz !
I think you cound install #12 wire on all the servos in DP's plane and he would still beat us all :) Just a thought John D. Frugé Webmaster MRCC www.modestorcclub.com AMA #695632 - Original Message - From: "Michael Neverdosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Soaring Exchange" Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Carbon Supra #48 flies - weight < 61 oz ! I think the best is to use servos that are powerful enough for the loads and use wire big enough to keep voltage drop to an acceptable level with maximum current draw on the servos. What is the maximum current draw of the most popular servos in these planes? michael N6CHV On 2/17/06, Michael Lachowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Assuming that the servo power is just at the margin where blowback will be significant. If it's not, then the extra wire is just extra weight. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/263 - Release Date: 2/16/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Need a source please
I need to find a source for 1/2" OD lead for ballast slugs. www.f3x.com is out. I am also looking for some G10 fiberglass plate that is 1/8" thick / .125" x 6" x 12" is about all i need. Thanks, John Fruge
Re: [RCSE] stopwatch question.
Thanks to those who replyed. Looks like we will be getting some "Seiko S321's" John D. Frugé Webmaster MRCC www.modestorcclub.com AMA #695632 - Original Message ----- From: "John D. Frugé" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:36 PM Subject: [RCSE] stopwatch question. I want to ask what type of stop watch you all use for TD contests. My club MRCC are looking to upgrade from a standard simple start / stop watch to something that will do a countdown for the timer so he or she dos not have to think about anyting just call out the time on the watch. Also of course it will need to show the total time for the landing judge. The easyer the better. It was not until the Add em up @ the SWC over the weekend that we found that we have been doing things the hard way for quite some time. Guess it comes down to learning something new everyday :) Thanks, John Fruge RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/252 - Release Date: 2/6/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] stopwatch question.
I want to ask what type of stop watch you all use for TD contests. My club MRCC are looking to upgrade from a standard simple start / stop watch to something that will do a countdown for the timer so he or she dos not have to think about anyting just call out the time on the watch. Also of course it will need to show the total time for the landing judge. The easyer the better. It was not until the Add em up @ the SWC over the weekend that we found that we have been doing things the hard way for quite some time. Guess it comes down to learning something new everyday :) Thanks, John Fruge RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] WTB Used Zenith Vtail
I am still on the hunt. "I am looking for a used Zenith Vtail" With servos or Without! ,Great shape or a beater!, Or just some parts. Let me know, Thanks, John Fruge - Original Message - From: John D Frugé To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 6:08 AM Subject: [RCSE] WTB Used Zenith Vtail RTF I am looking for a used Zenith Vtail RTF. I am also looking for any Zenith parts used or new. I also have posted on rcgroups the NYX I have fore sale or trade with updated info. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=479134#post5038950 Thanks, John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/252 - Release Date: 2/6/2006
[RCSE] WTB Used Zenith Vtail RTF
I am looking for a used Zenith Vtail RTF. I am also looking for any Zenith parts used or new. I also have posted on rcgroups the NYX I have fore sale or trade with updated info. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=479134#post5038950 Thanks, John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632
[RCSE] For Sale or Trade NYX with JR 368's RTF
I have a NYX with 6 JR 368's RTF It is is really good shape. White top with purple, pink stripe and purple bottom. Pic's http://www.modestorcclub.com/john.htm I would like to trade for a Zenith V tail. If I get no one willing to trade I will sell to fund or Help fund a Zenith V tail. I would like to stay away from shipping if possable. I could bring it to the Fresno Clasic, Visalia Bent Wing. I will ship it if its the only way. The reason for getting rid of this NYX is I just love my Zenith and want a back up of the same type. Thanks, John Fruge
Re: [RCSE] 4 sale
OMG! first of all I don't even have the Icon that I ordered a year ago. Now they don't even talk about those anymore. It's all about .. Supra this and Supra that.. Bla Bla Bla... Whatever... Now your telling me that I should get rid of my new to me Image 2M as well??? This was going to be my first Year Doing Open & 2M at each event! You all need to slow down. I am having trouble keeping up. JK... hope to see some of you @ the SWC John D. Frugé Webmaster MRCC www.modestorcclub.com AMA #695632 - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "mark browning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] 4 sale About time you get ridda that thing!!! Death to all 2-meters!!! (followed by evil laugh) Mark Triebes Elk Grove, CA -- Original message -- From: "mark browning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Image 4 sale white with blue and green tips blue bottoms 5 cell pack hitec 85mg and 81mg servos add receiver and fly flown well some cosmetic damage flies great! launches hard (for a 2mtr) $500.00 will bring to az thanks Mark RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/252 - Release Date: 2/6/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Wanted "scale pilot"
I am posting this for David who is in the middle of changing email addresses. " I need to purchase an Axel 1/4 scale pilot 30's era. Is there another distributer for I believe John Dirstine is still missing and no one has taken over his company ?. I have tried to contact Axel direct without success.David The Brit. [EMAIL PROTECTED] " Thanks, John D. FrugéWebmaster MRCCwww.modestorcclub.comAMA #695632
Re: [RCSE] Molded Supra #34
Looks great James, did i even have to click the link to guess the color :) Very nice! John Fruge "James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I received a SportTube full of goodies today from Barry Kennedy! 8-) > http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/Supra/Supra34a.jpg > > I Slid it open to see this... > http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/Supra/Supra34b.jpg > http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/Supra/Supra34c.jpg > > I pulled out the contents that were all very carefully packed and taped > together in one bundle. > http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/Supra/Supra34d.jpg > > I carefully cut the bundle apart and wiped off the drool I left on each > piece as I inspected it. ;-) > http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/Supra/Supra34e.jpg > > Is that a great color scheme or what? heh heh heh > > Thanks Barry, everything made it with no damage at all. Now I have a bench > project for the weekend. > > > Jim > Downers Grove, IL > Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR > AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and > unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in > text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] The 368's are sold pending funds.
Yep, The (368's) are like Gold. I keep some in the garage in a drawer just in case the US doller falls to low I still will have something :) Hehe, John Fruge - Original Message - From: Chip Willis To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:50 AM Subject: [RCSE] The 368's are sold pending funds. Man, guess I should have asked for more lol thanks guys! chip No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/228 - Release Date: 1/12/2006
Re: [RCSE] Sold DLG + servos & Batt F/S
This has been sold for the asking price. Thanks again and sorry for the "webmail glitch rapid fire multi posts today" John Fruge - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:51 AM Subject: [RCSE] DLG + servos & Batt F/S New Solo (AkA Enigma) DLG ARF $250.00 + CA tax = $280.00 4 New Dymond D47 Sub-Micro Servo $25.00 x 4 = $100.00 1 new 300ma batt $10.00 Total my cost $390.00 to my door. I never started the build and all is New. I am still flying my used Solo. I also need to fund another project. I am asking $309.00 paypal shipped. this is the price that NES sells the ARF for so you will be getting the Servos / batt for free. Thanks, John Fruge RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.14/222 - Release Date: 1/5/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Trophies
I did go to a public school. In the message below plague = plaque :) John Fruge - Original Message - From: "David Register" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:42 PM Subject: [RCSE] Re: Trophies U, are you REALLY sure you want to give the winners the plague? keep the main trophy the way it is but just give a small non returning plague to the 2-5 or 2-3 spots up in front of everone @ Visalia. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: 12/2/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Western States Triad?
Our thoughts when talking about it the other day at the field were to keep the main trophy the way it is but just give a small non returning plague to the 2-5 or 2-3 spots up infront of everone @ Visalia.. We were just kinda thinking that if we went to all 3 contests and ended up say 2nd or 3rd overall out of that bunch... (maybe only 20 people that hit all 3) it would be nice to have something to take home. I know that from just the Modesto RC club we have about 5 members that plan on hitting all 3 events so thats 5 people just from our little club. John Fruge - Original Message - From: Marta Zavala To: John D Frugé ; soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Western States Triad? Maybe because thru 5th place would include the majority of those that make all three contests???I saw it somewhere can remember - how many acrually competed for it at all three in 05? Walter - Original Message - From: John D Frugé To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 11:36 AM Subject: [RCSE] Western States Triad? A fellow club member and I were at a practice field talking about the (Western) 2006 TD season. After talking for a bit we asked each other why they don't offer say 2nd - 5th place plaque to go along with the 1st place Western states Triad trophy ? To us this seemed like a very good idea for those who plan on making all 3 events this next season. I am sure this may have come up before but please give me your thought? Also, I do know that bringing this up may cause work for myself if I end up appointed with the task of supplying the plaques :) Happy offseason to all, John Fruge Ceres, CA No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: 12/2/2005
[RCSE] Western States Triad?
A fellow club member and I were at a practice field talking about the (Western) 2006 TD season. After talking for a bit we asked each other why they don't offer say 2nd - 5th place plaque to go along with the 1st place Western states Triad trophy ? To us this seemed like a very good idea for those who plan on making all 3 events this next season. I am sure this may have come up before but please give me your thought? Also, I do know that bringing this up may cause work for myself if I end up appointed with the task of supplying the plaques :) Happy offseason to all, John Fruge Ceres, CA
[RCSE] For Sale - Electric Ultra 120 Tug
I have it listed on RCGROUPS http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=414841#post4291436 I put this togeather for a Electric Glider Tug.I have to many projects and need to make room.I wil give you the airframe and 25% off of the new parts.All that is needed to get thi in the air is a ESC that will handle 9S lipo @ about 50 amps.Hanger 9 ultra 120 (Used)Free4 hitech HS 425 servos in the wing (new)4 x $15.00 = $60.002 Hitech HS 5245MG servo in the tail (new)2 x $50.00 = $100.00New Hacker C50 ACRO EXTRA-LONG 14XL1 x $400.00 Motor mount (NEW)1 x $30.0018-10, 19-10 and 20-10 APC props (new)3 x $15.00 = $45.003 3s3p TP 5700 packs to make 9s3p 5700 (used)3 x $100.00 = $300.00Total Price $935.00-25%your price $690.00 + shippingPaypal only please.Pic's upon request.Thanks,John Fruge
Re: [RCSE] Teaching a kid
"He doesn't want my older Psyko" let me know if you need a home for the Psyko? That may be the model I have been looking for for my 11 year old nephew to move up to open class next year. John Fruge - Original Message - From: "Jeff Steifel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "rcse" Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Teaching a kid Thanks all. So the general consensus is that I should forget about teaching thermal skills and just get him into the full house to keep his interest. I guess I am outta step with instant gratification stuff. He doesn't want my older Psyko or Esteem, he wants my Artemis... but we'll see if I can get him into either ... I still need the Artemis as a backup. I'll let you know how it goes... Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 8/15/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Teaching a kid
Let me know if your looking for a Victory kit as I have one NIB. I got it last year for my 11 year old nephew "Perry Fruge" but we never built it. I also get him a Soprano RES thet he flew quite well this year. He plans on moving up to Open class next year. I would let it go to a good home for $400.00 shipped. It also has an upgraded fues with slip on nose cone. Thanks, John Fruge Ceres, CA - Original Message - From: "Douglas, Brent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "rcse" Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 6:45 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Teaching a kid Hi Jeff, I think Sal at Northeast Sailplanes still sells the Victory at www.nesail.com, check out www.hilaunch.com for info on the RESolution (if it's not on Nesail, too). I've seen both at quite a few contests, and they can be pretty competitive - certainly a big step up from a Spirt. Good luck, Brent *I'm guessing a bit, those sites are all blocked here. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 8/15/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] (Was) Re: WTB an Image
I am now the happy owner of a very nice used Image. Thanks again RCSE for making me a very happy Guy!!! This thing is nice Smiling from ear to ear, John Fruge - Original Message - From: John D Frugé To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 6:07 AM Subject: WTB an Image I am looking for a Used in good shape or New Image. I have a Soprano RES RTF I would be willing to trade or sell to fund. Please contact me offline. Thanks, John Fruge
Re: [RCSE] Sirius Charger Update
I guess I a'm not in the know? what is the reason for an update to a Sirius charger? Thanks, John Fruge - Original Message - From: "d. o. darnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:37 PM Subject: [RCSE] Sirius Charger Update I need to update my Sirius charger. George Joy, Whether art thou? Where and how much? ThankU D.O. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.6/59 - Release Date: 7/27/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: WTB an Image
I found the Image / trade for my Soprano I was looking for! Thanks RCSE, John Fruge - Original Message - From: John D Frugé To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 6:07 AM Subject: WTB an Image I am looking for a Used in good shape or New Image. I have a Soprano RES RTF I would be willing to trade or sell to fund. Please contact me offline. Thanks, John Fruge
[RCSE] Re: WTB an Image Update!
I have added info to a wanted post @ RCGROUPS. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394820#post4045055 So far I am in contact with one Image owner and were talking. Thanks, - Original Message - From: John D Frugé To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 6:07 AM Subject: WTB an Image I am looking for a Used in good shape or New Image. I have a Soprano RES RTF I would be willing to trade or sell to fund. Please contact me offline. Thanks, John Fruge
[RCSE] WTB an Image
I am looking for a Used in good shape or New Image. I have a Soprano RES RTF I would be willing to trade or sell to fund. Please contact me offline. Thanks, John Fruge
Re: [RCSE] Tri-Mode Launch Switch 8103?
In case anyone did not know about this Tri-Mode Launch Switch 8103 Mod. for DLG gliders here is the link. Tom Hoopes you rock! http://silentflyer.org/articles/8103-launch-switch.html This is the part that I have yet to find in stock on the web. Toggle switch (C&K part number 7207P3YZGE which is a DPDT (on-off-mom)). John Fruge - Original Message - From: John D Frugé To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 8:23 AM Subject: [RCSE] Tri-Mode Launch Switch 8103? I have the write up from Tom Hoopes on the Try- Mode Launch Switch for a JR XP-8103. I have been having some trouble finding (on the web) the Switch required to do this mod. Dos anyone have a good source for this switch. I need to order 3 of them. Thanks, John Fruge No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/44 - Release Date: 7/8/2005
[RCSE] Tri-Mode Launch Switch 8103?
I have the write up from Tom Hoopes on the Try- Mode Launch Switch for a JR XP-8103. I have been having some trouble finding (on the web) the Switch required to do this mod. Dos anyone have a good source for this switch. I need to order 3 of them. Thanks, John Fruge
Re: [RCSE] Its Not the Plane-again
I got to see some of his flights first hand (Timed for him on some). He was on fire. It / he inspired me so much I'm now on the waiting list for an 2m Image. only 362 days to go give or take a few :) Way to go Bobby! John Fruge - Original Message - From: "Rick Eckel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marta Zavala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Its Not the Plane-again Makes a 2 meter lover's heart go all pitter-patter!! ;-) Congratulations to Bobby McGowan! Rick At 07:15 PM 7/1/2005, Marta Zavala wrote: Seeing the posts about the Insanity we gotta get back to whos flying the plane. As good as the Insanity seems to be, its still the pilot. Case in point, last weeks SVSS Sprig Fling. The overall winner was?? Bobby McGowan. Was he flying a ultra high performance, high A/R, super foiled bird? Nope, a 2M Image. Doesnt that plane have your basic 7035? He smoked some pretty good pilots with that little 2M thing! Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 2 sailplanes for sale RTF
2 sailplanes for sale RTF Blizzard RES http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=387615 Tempest open class http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=387607 Selling to help fund an Image & Icon. Thanks, John Fruge
[RCSE] Tempest Setup?
I just got a used Temest and would like any input on how to set up things (throws CG and what not) and also the best use of this ship. (on calm light days I plan on using my Zenith). Any info would be great. Thanks, John Fruge
Re: [RCSE] Res....Again
The Modesto CA club has 3 Soprano's flying and I just got a crate in with #13 and #14 in it. The parts look and fit great. I know the guys that have there's flying love them. I cant wait to get these going as well. Soprano has my vote! John Fruge - Original Message - From: "Bob Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mark Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "GRW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] ResAgain I too was going to suggest the Soprano but Mark was quicker with a response. :) I got mine airborne only a couple of days before the 2004 Nats and consequently didn't have much time to get it sorted out. I was still able to be the top dog in my flight group in three out of the four rounds flown. Regards, Bob Johnson Fond du Lac, WI Try a Soprano. typical Ukranian quality and construction with conventional fuselage layout. Next order will be here in about 2 weeks. I'm just about sold out already. Get on the list quickly. Mark Miller www.isthmusmodels.com --- GRW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What is the hot plane for res these days? I know a lot like the AVA, then there is the Topaz, and the UB and now I found one called the Danny and seems like there are a few others. I know I know practice practice practicebecause they are all comprable but . I have asked this question several times and am now ready to order one so... Just trying to see if there is an avantage of one over the other. Wing Loading, strength, penetrating capabilities etc Any input is appreciated. Thanks. -- Glenn W. Tri-Cities, Wa - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 2/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 2/27/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] WTB JR 8103
I'm looking to buy a used but in good shape JR 8103 with or with out an RX. This is for a friend. Please email me off list if possable. Thanks, John Fruge <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>