Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD
All well said I personally Have not received it as of yet. A friend of mine did. All of you that are complaining and sending it back or throwing it away are you also sending back the coin that came with it. or are you all just being hypocritical. If you really believe what you are saying then also send back the coin so that someone else that appreciates what the AMA is trying to do can receive one with out having AMA spending more than they need. ( still not saying that they are going about this the right way but they are trying something and something is better than sitting on your hands doing nothing, If this doesn't work I'm sure they'll thy something deferent. On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 21:27:23 -0800, Erich Merkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All your points are exactly as AMA has made them plain in the letter > accompanying the DVD... They do NOT require return, but DO include a postage > paid return sticker if you want to return it, and will not send you further > DVD's in the series unless you keep AND pay for the first one... Personally, > I'll be sending it back. > Erich Merkel > Colville, WA > Phone: 509-684-0440 > Cell: 509-680-1141 > - Original Message - > From: TJB > To: Clarence Ashcraft ; soaring@airage.com > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 3:37 AM > Subject: Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD > > They are taking a risk. You do not have to return unsolicited mail. They > cannot obligate you in any way. If they say to return and say NO instead of > send in a YES, and they continue to send you material, you can keep or > discard whatever they send you. It all depends on whether there is some > small print on something you signed with AMA saying that you would accept or > like to receive offers from them. > > AMA needs to know that this is not a good policy and that they should send > out a card first, before they send out a DVD. Of course, a DVD is cheap -- > ask AOL -- and in the long run it might be cheaper than sending two > mailings. They should consider it a free sample and not require return. > They should include a YES card and not a NO card. They should only send out > the other volumes if they receive an order request. > > - Original Message ----- > From: Clarence Ashcraft > To: soaring@airage.com > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:37 AM > Subject: [RCSE] AMA DVD > > I watched it and I am sending it back. The content was ok but I don't like > someone sending me something I did not order. Now on the subject of safety > that might be a question. I have not flown much power stuff but I recall > when I was taught I was told to use a chicken stick or wear a leather glove > when propping a plane. All I saw was bare hands starting planes ??? is that > a good thing to show on a AMA video. > > CLARENCE ASHCRAFT > PRESIDENT OF > IMSF 2005 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > HOME OF INTERMOUNTAIN > SILENT FLYERS AND > SOAR UTAH > WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEARN > TO FLY R/C CONTACT > THE CLUB AT > http://www.silentflyer.org/ -- Ken York County Soaring "Lighthorse" Team YCS Silence is Golden RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin
Is he talking about South Carolina? Anyone who is not to keep it nor return it to AMA, please consider donor it, as I live in third country world and don't have access to that stuff. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD
All your points are exactly as AMA has made them plain in the letter accompanying the DVD... They do NOT require return, but DO include a postage paid return sticker if you want to return it, and will not send you further DVD's in the series unless you keep AND pay for the first one... Personally, I'll be sending it back. Erich MerkelColville, WAPhone: 509-684-0440Cell: 509-680-1141 - Original Message - From: TJB To: Clarence Ashcraft ; soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 3:37 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD They are taking a risk. You do not have to return unsolicited mail. They cannot obligate you in any way. If they say to return and say NO instead of send in a YES, and they continue to send you material, you can keep or discard whatever they send you. It all depends on whether there is some small print on something you signed with AMA saying that you would accept or like to receive offers from them. AMA needs to know that this is not a good policy and that they should send out a card first, before they send out a DVD. Of course, a DVD is cheap -- ask AOL -- and in the long run it might be cheaper than sending two mailings. They should consider it a free sample and not require return. They should include a YES card and not a NO card. They should only send out the other volumes if they receive an order request. - Original Message - From: Clarence Ashcraft To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:37 AM Subject: [RCSE] AMA DVD I watched it and I am sending it back. The content was ok but I don't like someone sending me something I did not order. Now on the subject of safety that might be a question. I have not flown much power stuff but I recall when I was taught I was told to use a chicken stick or wear a leather glove when propping a plane. All I saw was bare hands starting planes ??? is that a good thing to show on a AMA video. CLARENCE ASHCRAFTPRESIDENT OFIMSF 2005[EMAIL PROTECTED] HOME OF INTERMOUNTAINSILENT FLYERS ANDSOAR UTAHWOULD YOU LIKE TO LEARN TO FLY R/C CONTACTTHE CLUB AThttp://www.silentflyer.org/
Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin
Anyone who is not to keep it nor return it to AMA, please consider donor it, as I live in third country world and don't have access to that stuff. TIA and regards. - Original Message - From: "James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:10 AM Subject: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin > Did anyone else get the AMA Ultimate Model Aeronautics Video Library Volume > One DVD and collector coin in the mail? > > > Jim > Downers Grove, IL > Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR > AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin
The next-to-last paragraph in the letter accompanying the AMA DVD states: "Because you didn't ask for this special DVD, you don't have to participate or send it back and you could consider it a free gift..." Years ago (in the 1960s or 1970s?) it was a common scam to send unordered merchandise - such as books or records (you all remember records?) - and then demand payment if it was not returned. Laws were enacted which state that the recipient has no obligation either to return or pay for unordered merchandise. -Ben RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD
Ben, With a statement like that I guess you should explain how AMA doesn't have a clue. I think it is probably the other way around. DArwin - Original Message - From: "Ben Diss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Darwin N. Barrie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Soaring Digest" Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:24 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD > If the AMA was only a tiny fraction of the organization that AOPA is, I > would support them more. Simply put, AMA doesn't have a clue and this > little DVD is yet another example of their disconnect. > > -Ben > > AOPA 01139720 > EAA 0491836 > AMA L412 > AMYA 10708 > > Darwin N. Barrie wrote: > > > Hey guys, > > > > I think everyone is taking this the wrong way. How many are members of > > AOPA or EAA? I could fill a trash bag per year with the number of > > solicitations I get from them. Some I have taken advantage of. > > > > Regarding the AMA, this is apparently designed to be of benefit to the > > organization, clubs and individuals. (haven't seen it yet) AMA is > > working hard behind the scenes to secure and maintain flying sites, > > lobby against strange legislation (emission for gas engines) and the on > > going frequency monitoring with the FCC. > > > > I don't think $9 is too much to ask when we are flying $1000 plus > > models. Forget the philisophical BS that, "I didn't ask for it." The AMA > > is still very cheap for the benefits we get compared to other > > organization for other hobbies and sports. > > > > Let's support AMA instead of bitch about them. > > > > Darwin N. Barrie > > Chandler AZ > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin
> Also - it is the "Ultimate Model Aeronautics Video" but no soaring > content? Not very ultimate, me thinks. > Agreed, but what's exciting about watching a sailplane thermal at 1500' to the uninitiated, or anyone? That's the perception. 3D power aerobatics close in, helicopters, and generally noisy stuff gets all the attention. But scale aerotowing on the otherhand, now that can get exciting, noisy tow planes, high speed inverted passes with a 6 meter, glider aerobatics finishing with a screaming high speed pass. Plus eye candy on the gound without compare. See http://www.quietflyer.com/videos/JRAero2004/index.html for video of the 2004 JR aerotow. Free, no $9.00 required. Or go fly there next June yourself. The AMA doesn't know what they are missing, and perhaps a suggestion might be in order. 2005 JR Aerotow event info; http://www.scalesoaring.net/2005%20JR%20Aero%20Tow%20Final.pdf just go do it. Soar that is... JD PS: Paul Naton might be video recording this event this June. Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin
A violation of Title 39, United States Code, Section 3009? http://www.usps.com/websites/depart/inspect/merch.htm I assume those who received the DVD are obligated by the fine print in their AMA membership - or perhaps they never un-checked an innocent looking box during online renewal (Allow our partners to contact you? ) Also - it is the "Ultimate Model Aeronautics Video" but no soaring content? Not very ultimate, me thinks. "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away" - Tom Waits RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin
I received the set and watched the DVD. I intend to keep the DVD, but I don't yet know if I'll participate in the program. The DVD was fairly well produced, but filming of aircraft in flight was a bit shaky; perhaps the videographer should have used a tripod-mounted camera. Also, background noises and conversations during filming were distracting and gave the DVD a less-than-professional look. Any amateur videographer could have put this thing together. The interesting part of the DVD was about RC jets. I hadn't seen or heard them up to yesterday; it was quite interesting for me. I also enjoyed the giant-scale segment. Beyond those two areas, the DVD wasn't impressive; the most I'll say is that it was interesting. The series as a whole might turn out to be worth something, but only time will tell. Scott in Chandler, Arizona -Original Message- From: Jim Carlton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 9:49 PM To: James V. Bacus; soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin James V. Bacus wrote: > Did anyone else get the AMA Ultimate Model Aeronautics Video Library > Volume One DVD and collector coin in the mail? > > > Jim Yes, and haven't watched it yet. Any reviews? I'm not too interested and will probably send it back. I'm not sure if this is a direct AMA thing or a "partner" relationship sponsored for the AMA and as such making a profit for another company with the AMA getting a cut of the proceeds. (Just looking for some feedback, too, and not interested in starting any ruckus about the issue.) Jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD
On Saturday 26 February 2005 08:01 am, you wrote: > Hey guys, > Hi Darwin, Good to hear from you! My interest when I started this thread was whether or not AMA was drawing much benefit from this or if another entity found a way to capitalize on the AMA, obviously with AMA's approval. I am just curious to see how much AMA will gain from this method of marketing, that's all. > Regarding the AMA, this is apparently designed to be of benefit to the > organization, clubs and individuals. (haven't seen it yet) AMA is working > hard behind the scenes to secure and maintain flying sites, lobby against > strange legislation (emission for gas engines) and the on going frequency > monitoring with the FCC. AMA is well worth the membership fee for these benefits. Dave Brown's concept he explained in the last issue of MA about membership based on participation and discipline of the hobby is an interesting concept to generate revenue. (Thread hijack in progress :)) > I don't think $9 is too much to ask when we are flying $1000 plus models. > Forget the philisophical BS that, "I didn't ask for it." The AMA is still > very cheap for the benefits we get compared to other organization for other > hobbies and sports. The first DVD is $9 but how much are subsequent DVD's? I imagine they will be a bit more expensive. From one RV aficionado to another, you're right, $9 bucks isn't much but the last thing I need is more distractions from pounding rivets or cutting foam! :) > > Let's support AMA instead of bitch about them. > I'm with ya! Jim Carlton RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD
If the AMA was only a tiny fraction of the organization that AOPA is, I would support them more. Simply put, AMA doesn't have a clue and this little DVD is yet another example of their disconnect. -Ben AOPA 01139720 EAA 0491836 AMA L412 AMYA 10708 Darwin N. Barrie wrote: Hey guys, I think everyone is taking this the wrong way. How many are members of AOPA or EAA? I could fill a trash bag per year with the number of solicitations I get from them. Some I have taken advantage of. Regarding the AMA, this is apparently designed to be of benefit to the organization, clubs and individuals. (haven't seen it yet) AMA is working hard behind the scenes to secure and maintain flying sites, lobby against strange legislation (emission for gas engines) and the on going frequency monitoring with the FCC. I don't think $9 is too much to ask when we are flying $1000 plus models. Forget the philisophical BS that, "I didn't ask for it." The AMA is still very cheap for the benefits we get compared to other organization for other hobbies and sports. Let's support AMA instead of bitch about them. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] AMA DVD
Hey guys, I think everyone is taking this the wrong way. How many are members of AOPA or EAA? I could fill a trash bag per year with the number of solicitations I get from them. Some I have taken advantage of. Regarding the AMA, this is apparently designed to be of benefit to the organization, clubs and individuals. (haven't seen it yet) AMA is working hard behind the scenes to secure and maintain flying sites, lobby against strange legislation (emission for gas engines) and the on going frequency monitoring with the FCC. I don't think $9 is too much to ask when we are flying $1000 plus models. Forget the philisophical BS that, "I didn't ask for it." The AMA is still very cheap for the benefits we get compared to other organization for other hobbies and sports. Let's support AMA instead of bitch about them. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ
Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD
They are taking a risk. You do not have to return unsolicited mail. They cannot obligate you in any way. If they say to return and say NO instead of send in a YES, and they continue to send you material, you can keep or discard whatever they send you. It all depends on whether there is some small print on something you signed with AMA saying that you would accept or like to receive offers from them. AMA needs to know that this is not a good policy and that they should send out a card first, before they send out a DVD. Of course, a DVD is cheap -- ask AOL -- and in the long run it might be cheaper than sending two mailings. They should consider it a free sample and not require return. They should include a YES card and not a NO card. They should only send out the other volumes if they receive an order request. - Original Message - From: Clarence Ashcraft To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:37 AM Subject: [RCSE] AMA DVD I watched it and I am sending it back. The content was ok but I don't like someone sending me something I did not order. Now on the subject of safety that might be a question. I have not flown much power stuff but I recall when I was taught I was told to use a chicken stick or wear a leather glove when propping a plane. All I saw was bare hands starting planes ??? is that a good thing to show on a AMA video. CLARENCE ASHCRAFTPRESIDENT OFIMSF 2005[EMAIL PROTECTED] HOME OF INTERMOUNTAINSILENT FLYERS ANDSOAR UTAHWOULD YOU LIKE TO LEARN TO FLY R/C CONTACTTHE CLUB AThttp://www.silentflyer.org/
RE: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin
I don't hang out over there... I wasn't aware that this was happening. At 11:30 PM 2/25/2005, glide wrote: There is a big thread about this solicitation on RCGroups. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin
The letter enclosed said you could preview it, and if you want to continue the subscription from month to month send $9, or slap the enclosed return sticker on the DVD and return it, and keep the coin. I agree they kind of obligated me by sending this out of the blue, but I guess it's pretty easy to slap the sticker on the box and say NO if I want to, and toss it in the mail box. The AMA sends me all kinds of stuff, I just didn't know if anyone else was getting these or not. I tend to spend a week of my vacation in Muncie on the AMA grounds, so I am not going to get too upset about this. It's really no big deal, I was just curious. At 11:13 PM 2/25/2005, Brian Chan wrote: Did anyone else get the AMA Ultimate Model Aeronautics Video Library Volume One DVD and collector coin in the mail? Jim, No, Yes, I did not but a friend did. He also received a bill later to collect. He told them he did not order one and not going to pay and if they want it back , they better send a prepaid envelope to collect it. They gave up after that. I don't like people send me thing and bill me later. I did not ask for that. Brian -- Brian Chan An Electric Airplane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mateo.Ca.USA Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] AMA DVD
I watched it and I am sending it back. The content was ok but I don't like someone sending me something I did not order. Now on the subject of safety that might be a question. I have not flown much power stuff but I recall when I was taught I was told to use a chicken stick or wear a leather glove when propping a plane. All I saw was bare hands starting planes ??? is that a good thing to show on a AMA video. CLARENCE ASHCRAFTPRESIDENT OFIMSF 2005[EMAIL PROTECTED] HOME OF INTERMOUNTAINSILENT FLYERS ANDSOAR UTAHWOULD YOU LIKE TO LEARN TO FLY R/C CONTACTTHE CLUB AThttp://www.silentflyer.org/
RE: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin
There is a big thread about this solicitation on RCGroups. I heard that there is a prepaid return envelope if you decide not to keep the items. I don't like the idea of being sent items that I didn't ask for in the first place coming in the mail. Now if they sent a t-shirt for free... Al Battad -Original Message- From: Brian Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 7:14 PM To: James V. Bacus; soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin >Did anyone else get the AMA Ultimate Model Aeronautics Video Library >Volume One DVD and collector coin in the mail? > Jim, No, Yes, I did not but a friend did. He also received a bill later to collect. He told them he did not order one and not going to pay and if they want it back , they better send a prepaid envelope to collect it. They gave up after that. I don't like people send me thing and bill me later. I did not ask for that. Brian -- Brian Chan An Electric Airplane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mateo.Ca.USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin
Did anyone else get the AMA Ultimate Model Aeronautics Video Library Volume One DVD and collector coin in the mail? Jim, No, Yes, I did not but a friend did. He also received a bill later to collect. He told them he did not order one and not going to pay and if they want it back , they better send a prepaid envelope to collect it. They gave up after that. I don't like people send me thing and bill me later. I did not ask for that. Brian -- Brian Chan An Electric Airplane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mateo.Ca.USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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I just watched it on my Mac while working on my PC. There is no soaring on it, but we should get them to put it on a volume. It's somewhere between an educational piece and a safety piece by the AMA, but it was just volume one I guess. My only comment will be that there was a couple large scale pilots and jet pilots that have a whole lot more wrapped up into their models, that sure could use some landing practice... 8-) (made me giggle, yikes!) At 10:48 PM 2/25/2005, Jim Carlton wrote: James V. Bacus wrote: Did anyone else get the AMA Ultimate Model Aeronautics Video Library Volume One DVD and collector coin in the mail? Jim Yes, and haven't watched it yet. Any reviews? I'm not too interested and will probably send it back. I'm not sure if this is a direct AMA thing or a "partner" relationship sponsored for the AMA and as such making a profit for another company with the AMA getting a cut of the proceeds. (Just looking for some feedback, too, and not interested in starting any ruckus about the issue.) Jim Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] AMA DVD and coin
James V. Bacus wrote: Did anyone else get the AMA Ultimate Model Aeronautics Video Library Volume One DVD and collector coin in the mail? Jim Yes, and haven't watched it yet. Any reviews? I'm not too interested and will probably send it back. I'm not sure if this is a direct AMA thing or a "partner" relationship sponsored for the AMA and as such making a profit for another company with the AMA getting a cut of the proceeds. (Just looking for some feedback, too, and not interested in starting any ruckus about the issue.) Jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] AMA DVD and coin
Did anyone else get the AMA Ultimate Model Aeronautics Video Library Volume One DVD and collector coin in the mail? Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
