Re: [RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?

2005-02-20 Thread Keith Love
James V. Bacus wrote:
Change your email software to Eudora... http://www.eudora.com/
Even better: Mozilla Thuderbird!
   http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/
 -- Keith (a convert from Eudora)
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Re: [RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?

2005-02-20 Thread James V. Bacus
At 02:39 PM 2/20/2005, Jim Holliman wrote:
Anybody what's available for the Mac?
I think the email package that ships with OS X is fairly decent, but if you 
want more power, my favorite email software Eudora is also available for OS X.


Jim
Downers Grove, IL
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AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
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Re: [RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?

2005-02-20 Thread Martin Usher
>Anybody what's available for the Mac? (Jim Holliman)
Macs won't have the same level of problem so you don't need things like 
AdAware. You hear the pundits saying that its because there's just not 
enough systems out there for people to worry about messing with them but 
that's not really true. Its the architecture of Windows, the "Gates 
Vision Thing" that's the problem. Windows assumes that external vendors 
should be able to -- in fact have the right to -- take over the 
operation of your system. (A traditional model is that no external agent 
has any rights on the system at all unless explicitly given them by the 
system's owner.)

If Microsoft changed their philosophy then all these problems could be 
fixed. Unfortunately this mindset is now expanding into "Digital Rights 
Management". This isn't what it seems to be (content protection for 
legitimate copyright holders) but rather a sea change in how your 
computer's used where users effectively rent use from providers who 
control what runs on the system and how you use it. This is seen as a 
major profit center by numerous companies so the problem's likely to get 
a lot worse before it gets better.

(DRM is more pervasive than computers, BTW. Its not been more intrusive 
because of consumer reaction (negative) which might derail it before it 
gets pervasive -- there's still too much legacy kit around, older analog 
televisions and radios, that sort of thing.)

Martin Usher
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Re: [RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?

2005-02-20 Thread Bill's Email
Jim Holliman wrote:
Anybody what's available for the Mac?
 

I use both Entourage (purchase for Micrsquirt) and Thunderbird (free). 
Running OSX 10.3.7
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Re: [RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?

2005-02-20 Thread Jim Holliman
Bill Johns wrote on 2-20-05 2:09 PM:

> You might also try going to
> Lavasoftware:  http://www.lavasoft.de/news/product/info/
> 
> and downloading the free/personal version of the program Ad-Aware SE.  It
> will clean up all the spyware and cookies that can screw up a system.  If
> you've been using IE you will be stunned at what get's through and becomes
> a permanent part of your computer.

Anybody what's available for the Mac?

-- 
Jim Holliman -- Tulsa, Oklahoma
AMA & TULSOAR

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Re: [RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?

2005-02-20 Thread Paul Breed
Dito
I Use Eudora and Firefox.
E-Mail:
I have the free Eudora with the add at home and the
paid for Eudora at work. I've had not problems with it at all.
Web:
I've been using firefox for about 6 months.
I use if for most things, every once in awhile I find a web page that is broken
when using Firefox and have to fire up Microsoft Internet exploder.
This only happens about twice a month.

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Re: [RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?

2005-02-20 Thread Bill Johns
At 11:14 AM 2/20/2005, Martin Usher wrote:
>James V. Bacus wrote:
>Change your email software to Eudora... http://www.eudora.com/
It sounds like someone's having a sly dig at Microsoft but the reality is 
that if you stop using Microsoft's Outlook/Outlook Express and their 
Internet Explorer web browser then lots of bad things that happen to your 
computer will mysteriously stop happening.
Yep.  What he said.
Since Eudora's a commerical package
Not necessarily.  You can use the freebee version.  You get a little ad in 
the lower left hand corner.

you might want to experiment with Mozilla's offerings -- the Firefox browser
I use FoxFire and love it.
and Thunderbird mail program.
Only tried the beta version and had a few hand-ups.The regular release 
is out and should be better.

You might also try going to 
Lavasoftware:  http://www.lavasoft.de/news/product/info/

and downloading the free/personal version of the program Ad-Aware SE.  It 
will clean up all the spyware and cookies that can screw up a system.  If 
you've been using IE you will be stunned at what get's through and becomes 
a permanent part of your computer.

Cheers,
Bill 

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Re: [RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?

2005-02-20 Thread Ed Jett
Does anybody have Robert's phone number?  I have seen this happen and I can 
help him work around it and get rid of the problem, but he may not be able 
to receive any emails including the recent replies to the list.

Ed Jett
- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Massmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RCSE" 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 12:11 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?


Can someone point me in the right direction to correct a problem that I am 
having. Just recently, I have start getting emails in my inbox (17) emails 
each time I complete a send receive command. At first I thought they were 
coming into the server that I use, but checking it vie the web the emails 
do not appear. The emails do not have anything list in the TO, From, or 
Subject line. And the the text below is listed in the body of the mail. 
The test is the same information that is seen when looking at the mesage 
properties an info about the source. The only item that appears to change 
is the Message ID: which increments by (1) for each email. The same number 
of emails appear everytime I complete a connection to the server to check 
for mail.  I am running Norton Iinternet Security, just did a scan with 
nothing found, I also running Windows XP with full updates. The problem 
just started one or two days ago. Not sure where to look to stop them or 
what is causing them.

X-NAS-Language: Unknown
X-NAS-Bayes: #0: 0.804398; #1: 0.195602
X-NAS-Classification: 0
X-NAS-MessageID: 4695
X-NAS-Validation: {FE327E6E-FB82-4202-8E11-FE67BD209ADE}
Regards,
Robert Massmann
Wilmington, Ohio

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Re: [RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?

2005-02-20 Thread James V. Bacus
At 01:14 PM 2/20/2005, Martin Usher wrote:
>James V. Bacus wrote:
>Change your email software to Eudora... http://www.eudora.com/
It sounds like someone's having a sly dig at Microsoft but the reality is 
that if you stop using Microsoft's Outlook/Outlook Express and their 
Internet Explorer web browser then lots of bad things that happen to your 
computer will mysteriously stop happening.
Just trying to give good advice, I notice the same thing when I stopped 
using Outlook.  I have a bunch of web browser installed because I have to 
test on them, I just have to surf more carefully with some of them then others.

Actually, I am quite platform neutral.  I have various flavors of Windows, 
Mac OS X, and unix running on the home and office network.


Since Eudora's a commerical package you might want to experiment with 
Mozilla's offerings -- the Firefox browser and Thunderbird mail program. 
(www.mozilla.org). Try downloading Thunderbird and running it to see if 
the 17 free mails go away.
There is a lite (free) version of Eudora to try this with too...  but I 
have no experience with Thunderbird.  I have heard about it, and know 
people that like it.


You might try bugging Symantec (Norton)..I have seen updates of their 
software behaving very badly, up to and including causing a system to lock 
up completely.
Good advice...  same observations.

The best security you can buy for your computer is an external router, one 
of those Linksys boxes or similar. They're not that easy or rewarding to 
hack and they remove the firewall from your computer.
Also good advice, I've been doing the above for many years.
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
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Re: [RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?

2005-02-20 Thread Martin Usher
>James V. Bacus wrote:
>Change your email software to Eudora... http://www.eudora.com/
It sounds like someone's having a sly dig at Microsoft but the reality 
is that if you stop using Microsoft's Outlook/Outlook Express and their 
Internet Explorer web browser then lots of bad things that happen to 
your computer will mysteriously stop happening.

Since Eudora's a commerical package you might want to experiment with 
Mozilla's offerings -- the Firefox browser and Thunderbird mail program. 
(www.mozilla.org). Try downloading Thunderbird and running it to see if 
the 17 free mails go away.

You might try bugging Symantec (Norton)..I have seen updates of 
their software behaving very badly, up to and including causing a system 
to lock up completely.

The best security you can buy for your computer is an external router, 
one of those Linksys boxes or similar. They're not that easy or 
rewarding to hack and they remove the firewall from your computer. 
Software like firewalls just doesn't integrate well with Windows -- the 
fact that companies can do it at all is almost miraculous -- so its 
likely to be imperfect as best, it better to move the functionality to a 
system that's better able to handle (the router). If you then run the 
non-Microsoft mail and browser software with appropriate (default) 
settings you'll find that a lot of the problems and junk -- popups, junk 
mail and the like -- will just go away. You may lose a tiny bit of 
functionality -- I can't play some streaming video in the Firefox 
browser, for example -- but its a small price to pay to have a working 
computer.

Martin Usher
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Re: [RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?

2005-02-20 Thread James V. Bacus
Change your email software to Eudora... http://www.eudora.com/
At 12:11 PM 2/20/2005, Robert Massmann wrote:
Can someone point me in the right direction to correct a problem that I am 
having.
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
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[RCSE] Off subject: Help with MS Outlook Express Email Problem?

2005-02-20 Thread Robert Massmann
Can someone point me in the right direction to correct a problem that I am 
having. Just recently, I have start getting emails in my inbox (17) emails 
each time I complete a send receive command. At first I thought they were 
coming into the server that I use, but checking it vie the web the emails do 
not appear. The emails do not have anything list in the TO, From, or Subject 
line. And the the text below is listed in the body of the mail. The test is 
the same information that is seen when looking at the mesage properties an 
info about the source. The only item that appears to change is the Message 
ID: which increments by (1) for each email. The same number of emails appear 
everytime I complete a connection to the server to check for mail.  I am 
running Norton Iinternet Security, just did a scan with nothing found, I 
also running Windows XP with full updates. The problem just started one or 
two days ago. Not sure where to look to stop them or what is causing them.

X-NAS-Language: Unknown
X-NAS-Bayes: #0: 0.804398; #1: 0.195602
X-NAS-Classification: 0
X-NAS-MessageID: 4695
X-NAS-Validation: {FE327E6E-FB82-4202-8E11-FE67BD209ADE}
Regards,
Robert Massmann
Wilmington, Ohio

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