RE: [RCSE] One full day of RES -- XC/Scale every year

2005-08-02 Thread John Derstine
Now there is an idea, basically what I was getting at, contests and fun
every year. De-emphasize the contest aspect as the die hards know who
they are, and will always show up, we need to attract the rest, the guys
who don't always come, who care less about rigorous competition, who
will support the National Flying site with their presence if it is
relevant to their interests, not the minority of top level competition
pilots.
JD

Endless Mountain Models
http://www.scalesoaring.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: TJB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:54 PM
> To: Soaring List
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES -- XC/Scale every year
> 
>  would have Monday for 2M, Tues and Wed for Open, Thurs would be RES,
Fri
> > morning hand launch and Friday afternoon NOS.  Events like F3B, F3J,
> > X-Country and Scale would be on the weekend before or after.
> >
> > JE
> 
> 
> Would probably be the end of NOS.  Just not that many flying it.  It
won't
> be long and NOS will be 30 year old planes.  It is so limited.  If
they
> set
> the category for 20 year old planes (more like it was when it
started), it
> would open up the field for more fliers.
> 
> I would come an extra couple days early if they had XC and Scale every
> year.
> It doesn't even have to be a contest, just two days set aside at the
> beginning of the schedule.
> 
> T
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > With the introduction of production planes like the Ava and the
Topaz,
> RES
> > is now the fastest growing segment of plane in this neck of the
woods.
> > Where it used to be just a few people it is now nearly even with the
> > amount
> > of Open class entries.  There are several fliers that have won Open
> > contests
> > with these planes and it isn't a fluke.  Over the last year I have
> > consistently scored better with my Topaz than with my Open class
plane,
> > primarily because of the ability to just drop it on the spot and
have it
> > stick.  They are so light they don't carry too much momentum.  They
> > thermal
> > easier, the handling is excellent, they just don't like as much
wind,
> but
> > then again, they can successfully be ballasted.
> >
> > In the big monthly contests SWSA holds, the number of Open class
planes
> is
> > probably around 30, RES is about 20 and 2M is about 10.  It seems
> > completely
> > upside down to me that 2M at the NATS gets 2 days while RES gets 1/2
a
> > day.
> > Additionally, the awards banquet is held before RES and NOS are even
> > flown,
> > pushing it down further from a competitive event to more of a fun
fly
> > afterthought.
> >
> > I> --
> > Erickson Architects
> > John R. Erickson, AIA
> >
> >
> >> From: "Jim McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:34:52 -0500
> >> To: 
> >> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: [RCSE] One full day of RES
> >>
> >> What's amazing is that the United States is the only country the
flies
> >> 2M. I
> >> think if you took a poll at the Nats those entered in the event
only
> fly
> >> it to
> >> occupy time until Unlimited starts. The latest phrase coined at
this
> >> years
> >> event was " Do you know what flies worse than a 2M?" Answer:
"Nothing".
> >> In
> >> general most prefer the bigger models and very few clubs fly 2M on
a
> >> regular
> >> basis.
> >>
> >> Let the flaming begin.
> >>
> >> Jim McCarthy
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Re: [RCSE] One full day of RES -- XC/Scale every year

2005-08-02 Thread TJB

would have Monday for 2M, Tues and Wed for Open, Thurs would be RES, Fri

morning hand launch and Friday afternoon NOS.  Events like F3B, F3J,
X-Country and Scale would be on the weekend before or after.

JE



Would probably be the end of NOS.  Just not that many flying it.  It won't 
be long and NOS will be 30 year old planes.  It is so limited.  If they set 
the category for 20 year old planes (more like it was when it started), it 
would open up the field for more fliers.


I would come an extra couple days early if they had XC and Scale every year.
It doesn't even have to be a contest, just two days set aside at the 
beginning of the schedule.


T





With the introduction of production planes like the Ava and the Topaz, RES
is now the fastest growing segment of plane in this neck of the woods.
Where it used to be just a few people it is now nearly even with the 
amount
of Open class entries.  There are several fliers that have won Open 
contests

with these planes and it isn't a fluke.  Over the last year I have
consistently scored better with my Topaz than with my Open class plane,
primarily because of the ability to just drop it on the spot and have it
stick.  They are so light they don't carry too much momentum.  They 
thermal

easier, the handling is excellent, they just don't like as much wind, but
then again, they can successfully be ballasted.

In the big monthly contests SWSA holds, the number of Open class planes is
probably around 30, RES is about 20 and 2M is about 10.  It seems 
completely
upside down to me that 2M at the NATS gets 2 days while RES gets 1/2 a 
day.
Additionally, the awards banquet is held before RES and NOS are even 
flown,

pushing it down further from a competitive event to more of a fun fly
afterthought.

I> --
Erickson Architects
John R. Erickson, AIA



From: "Jim McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:34:52 -0500
To: 
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [RCSE] One full day of RES

What's amazing is that the United States is the only country the flies 
2M. I
think if you took a poll at the Nats those entered in the event only fly 
it to
occupy time until Unlimited starts. The latest phrase coined at this 
years
event was " Do you know what flies worse than a 2M?" Answer: "Nothing". 
In
general most prefer the bigger models and very few clubs fly 2M on a 
regular

basis.

Let the flaming begin.

Jim McCarthy


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