Re: [RCSE] Re: 8103 landing mode

2002-04-01 Thread mikel

You don't need to use the 8103 with the camber and landing mode switched
on the stick. You can program the stick so it's always landing mode. Use
a switch for launch and for reflex and camber presets. 

Using a slider for changing camber is definitely over rated.  A fixed
camber and reflex setting works just fine. I don't think there are that
many pilots out there that could optimally select between 1.5 degrees
camber and 2.5 degrees camber in flight.  The camber yes or no is enough
to worry about.

Of course, even MPX "beer tray" pilots have been known to leave the
launch switch set during speed runs.  It's hard to get rid of all the
switches. 

Nothing replaces practice.  

Quiet Man wrote:
> 
> Howard writes:
> 
> >Now my 8103 programming question
> 
> I used to time for Mark Navarre, who's one eccentric habit was
> insisting on using a JR 8103 for flying sailplanes in competition. His
> use of the 8103 led to several humorous moments over the years when he
> would either forget to hit a switch, or forget not too...
> 
> If you are flying at the level where you feel the need for such
> niceties, another radio may serve you better. I fly the Stylus like
> most everybody, because it's the "no brainer" perfect contest radio.
> Several of my US team buddies have switched to MPX "beer trays" for
> various reasons, and they seem happy enough, and definitely have found
> a use for their spare time...
> 
> There may be other radios now, maybe even JR radios that will do what
> you want, just make SURE you don't have to flip any switches in
> flight, especially getting ready to land, that is NOT the path of the
> avatar...
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[RCSE] Re: 8103 landing mode

2002-03-31 Thread Gliderscum

I'll cop to a few "humorous moments" as they are some of my fonder memories 
from RC competition.  However.switch flipping is an integral part of 
aviating.  The aircraft does not know what flight mode is desired at a given 
moment.  Pulling down a flap stick (still necessary for landing even with a 
Stylus) is a way of reconfiguring the aircraft for a different phase of 
flight.  The switch was to allow the flap stick to fulfill two different 
functions with one control.  Of course this is possible with the Stylus, but 
requires a master's degree in computer programming, judging by the ratio of 
estoteric Stylus questions to 8103 questions on this exchange.

My choice of the 8103 was driven by lighter weight, lower cost, and longer 
battery life.  The fact that many of my pals were having programming 
difficulty with the Stylus at the time was also a factor.  Fondle everybody's 
radio, ask lots of questions..and then buy what YOU like.

Mark Navarre

In a message dated 3/31/02 8:40:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>several humorous moments over the years when he would either forget to
>hit a switch, or forget not too...
>If you are flying at the level where you feel the need for such niceties,
>another radio may serve you better. I fly the Stylus like most everybody,
>because it's the "no brainer" perfect contest radio.

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Re: [RCSE] Re: 8103 landing mode

2002-03-31 Thread Quiet Man
Rusty writes:
>Just try not to remember that the next time you're on a commercial flight on final!! :)
So very true, and the number 1 priority for airlines all the way down to recreational pilots is and has been for years to reduce the workload on the pilot.  Nearly all accidents in aviation are due to pilot error in whole or in part.  Anything which reduces the things you need to consciously attend to when flying, be it models or full-scale will pay-off sooner or later...
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Re: [RCSE] Re: 8103 landing mode

2002-03-31 Thread Carver, Rusty



 Just try not to remember that the next time you're on a 
commercial flight on final!! :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Quiet 
  Man 
  To: Craig Greening ; RCSE 
  Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:14 
PM
  Subject: [RCSE] Re: 8103 landing 
  mode
   
  Evil advice, someday you WILL have a problem.  Sooner rather 
  than later if you ever get interested in F3x style competitions, or any 
  flying where you are forced to deal with wind, other planes, desperate pop-off 
  gambles, etc. etc. etc. etc.
  You WILL screw it up!  Any human being would.  Switches are 
  bad.  We can all train ourselves to do most anything at the same 
  time-most of the time if we have to, but it's just not playing the 
  percentages.  And there is no reason to not equip yourself with the 
  "right stuff," if you are serious.
  JR.
   


[RCSE] Re: 8103 landing mode

2002-03-31 Thread Quiet Man
Craig admits:
>I'm an in-flight switch flipper (camber, rudder mix on/off,>reflex) and have not had a problem. One can learn to remember,>enabling landing mode and confirming rudder mix on is part of my>check at the abeam point of my approach.
Evil advice, someday you WILL have a problem.  Sooner rather than later if you ever get interested in F3x style competitions, or any flying where you are forced to deal with wind, other planes, desperate pop-off gambles, etc. etc. etc. etc.
You WILL screw it up!  Any human being would.  Switches are bad.  We can all train ourselves to do most anything at the same time-most of the time if we have to, but it's just not playing the percentages.  And there is no reason to not equip yourself with the "right stuff," if you are serious.
JR.John RoeLaguna Hills, Ca
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Re: [RCSE] Re: 8103 landing mode

2002-03-31 Thread Craig Greening

I'm an in-flight switch flipper (camber, rudder mix on/off,
reflex) and have not had a problem. One can learn to remember,
enabling landing mode and confirming rudder mix on is part of my
check at the abeam point of my approach.

Craig.


> - Original Message -
> From: Quiet Man
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 8:40 AM
> Subject: [RCSE] Re: 8103 landing mode
>
> There may be other radios now, maybe even JR radios that will
do what you
> want, just make SURE you don't have to flip any switches in
flight,
> especially getting ready to land, that is NOT the path of the
avatar...
>


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Re: [RCSE] Re: 8103 landing mode

2002-03-31 Thread Tom Watson

One of the main reasons I switched from the 8103 to the 10X...

Tom

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- Original Message -
From: Quiet Man
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 8:40 AM
Subject: [RCSE] Re: 8103 landing mode

There may be other radios now, maybe even JR radios that will do what you
want, just make SURE you don't have to flip any switches in flight,
especially getting ready to land, that is NOT the path of the avatar...



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