Re: [Spooks] XSL Question
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list At 09:24 29.10.2011, you wrote: >Thanks very much Leif, > >Is it a PSK waveform while idle, or just when transmitting data, or both? > >The idling sound pattern is what is intriguing to me, and it got me >thinking about it being a radar, or something else that act similarly. >I've heard the data sound pattern and it does sound exactly like STANAG >4285 data transmissions as you mention. However, the chop-chop part of >the idle sound seems remarkably like the Russian "woodpecker" and other >OTH radars I've heard. It didn't seem beyond possibility that the >additional tone patterns were laid on top of (or interleaved with) the >"chop-chop" part, and I was curious about it. > >There are lots of examples of signals embedded, or interleaved with other >signals which are then later stripped out. X10 devices might be a good >example, which use signalling over the 110v AC power lines. Another >example might be IP over AC power lines. > >I'm very new to this, so I'm sure this has been brought up before and >dismissed for various reasons. I just couldn't find any discussion about >it in my Google searches. > >Thanks again, >Mike Hi Mike, the station sends 1500 Bd QPSK also in it's idle state. I suppose the additional tone frequencies that are visible when the station is in idle mode, are used to synchronize and align the modems on the remote side. Some basic info on the waveform can be found here: http://www.signals.taunus.de/FFT/J-NY_1500Bd_QPSK.HTML BRGDS //Leif and during the Location: near Munich/Germany IRC #wunclub on starchat.net / nick: LDO Website: http://www.signals.taunus.de/ PGP-key : 0x9B4992F9 or 0x0133BD80 __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] XSL Question
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list At 07:12 27.10.2011, you wrote: >After listening to XSL (Slot Machine) on 8587.5 kHz this evening for a >bit, it strikes me that it sounds an awful lot like the other HF radars >I've heard, but with the tone sequences. I haven't found any similar >speculation in my google searches though. > >Everything I've found via google searches seems to simply repeat the same >thing--that it's some kind of telemetry transmission from the Japanese >Military. I find it very odd that anyone would transmit telemetry for >anything on 8 - 13 frequencies (or more) where that telemetry repeated the >same pattern for hours. > >Why couldn't this be some multi-frequency HF radar, but where the >frequency spread was very narrow, centered on each of the well known >frequencies? > >Or maybe even a mix of data interleaved with radar pulses? > >I'm new to this, so be gentle. :-) > >Mike Mike, it's a PSK-waveform used by the Japanese Navy to broadcast messages to vessels out at sea. Just like you'll see several NATO circuits broadcasting "shore -> ship" traffic via several parallel STANAG 4285 channels, the Japanese Navy does the same, however using a proprietary (non-standardized) waveform. The part that sounds like a slot machine is the system in idle mode, while the audio changes over to a more rushing sound when the system sends message traffic. It's definitely not a radar system. BRGDS //Leif Location: near Munich/Germany IRC #wunclub on starchat.net / nick: LDO Website: http://www.signals.taunus.de/ PGP-key : 0x9B4992F9 or 0x0133BD80 __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] strange signal
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list At 11:35 01.10.2003 +0200, PATRICE PRIVAT wrote: Hi Pat, strange sound this morning (nothing like this heard before) on 6945 khz USB at 0912z only lasted several minutes, 400 kb wav soundbite at http://ute.wizzard.free.fr/ what you heard was a Rohde & Schwarz GM856 modem running in simplex 8-FSK ARQ mode (720bps). BRGDS -- Leif -- +---+ | ***** Leif Dehio *| | Location: near Munich/Germany | | e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | IRC #monitor (IRC-net) / nick: LDO| | Web-page: http://rover.vistecprivat.de/~signals | | PGP-key : (v2.6.3i): 0x9B4992F9 on all key servers| | (v5.x & later): 0x0133BD80 on all servers | +---+ __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/faq.htm Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Visit http://www.spynumbers.com/ for complete information about Spy Numbers Stations
Re: [Spooks] p o l y t o n e
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list At 12:44 27.07.2003 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ary, hi Patrice, the signal is not Crowd36, it's actually a 12-tone Piccolo signal used by British MIL. The signal appears to be very wide simply because the recording was quite overloaded. The true bandwidth of this signal is only some 250Hz, while Crowd36 would show a bandwidth of approximately 1400Hz. Best regards -- Leif -- Hello Pat, I listened to your sound sample. The signal is a 32-tone MFSK mode (also called CROWD36) and is used by Russian diplo/military/intel stations including M42. These stations are sometimes on the air for hours. XPerta recognizes some of the tones and decodes them but it doesn't decode the whole message. Regards, Ary >Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list > >05283.0unid 2127 apparent polytone station in progress (does not >seem like natural noise or jammer, still on at 2310 !! USB 26/07 (PP1) > >Xperta decode gives > >Sound file: 5283.wav >Beginning: 0.000 >End: 120.000 >Thresold of acceptance: 0.15 >Time step: 3.17 >7>9>>55_8_R_7>>565>995977_8>56_R7_R766_688599987689_697>6555 >>>_669_88>>_599_85>7865_R>59_R66___R_>966>77_R669_67_877 >69_>7999_>>8>>_8>>>>>>>_6_6958>869>76_R99R7>788R_558868>68>> >_R_9_8_88_>99_66>56>>89_R6>>988_>88>>__6_R8788668_R_ >R_>_R_>8_7_>>_6956_788_R5_R>7>7_R98__9_R>_5__9_>767_6959_66R >_>__R967>>>>_8>__875_998878_9_R_>_R_66_R_>96>>6_R5>>89557799 >_957799>>99>_R97576_66_89_>_>99677__7866_RR665889599558>>_5_ >etc etc etc etc (short wav clip available 11025 Hz 8 bit monoat my site) > >Pat near Paris, icom r75 >ute.wizzard.free.fr +---+ | * Leif Dehio *| | Location: near Munich/Germany | | e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | IRC #monitor (IRC-net) / nick: LDO| | Web-page: http://rover.vistecprivat.de/~signals | | PGP-key : (v2.6.3i): 0x9B4992F9 on all key servers| | (v5.x & later): 0x0133BD80 on all servers | +---+ ___ Spooks mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks - Visit http://www.spynumbers.com/ for complete information about Spy Numbers Stations
Re: [Spooks] E10 + E05
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list At 22:50 14.01.2003 +0100, you wrote: E05 was at 2100 on 6970 and 8110 kHz. Is this the only time slot left? the Frankfurt E05 transmitter was up this morning between appx. 07:00 and 08:00 UTC on the following channels (all USB): 11526 11072 9090 8110 6970 There was however no E05 "voice" transmission, only an unmodulated tone at around 1050 Hz. All channels went silent at roughly 08:10 UTC. BRGDS -- Leif -- +---+ | * Leif Dehio *| | Location: near Munich/Germany | | e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | IRC #monitor (IRC-net) / nick: LDO| | Web-page: http://rover.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~signals | | PGP-key : (v2.6.3i): 0x9B4992F9 on all key servers| | (v5.x & later): 0x0133BD80 on all servers | +---+ ___ Spooks mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks - Visit http://www.spynumbers.com/ for complete information about Spy Numbers Stations
Re: [Spooks] Chinese numbers
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list At 21:18 08.01.2003 +0100, you wrote: Hi Maciej, Leif i posted info abt that station yesterday liste to that... ain't it the same you're right, it is the same message format and the same voice. Seems to be a new girl in town. BRGDS -- Leif -- +---+ | * Leif Dehio *| | Location: near Munich/Germany | | e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | IRC #monitor (IRC-net) / nick: LDO| | Web-page: http://rover.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~signals | | PGP-key : (v2.6.3i): 0x9B4992F9 on all key servers| | (v5.x & later): 0x0133BD80 on all servers | +---+ ___ Spooks mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks - Visit http://www.spynumbers.com/ for complete information about Spy Numbers Stations
Re: [Spooks] Chinese numbers
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list At 17:07 08.01.2003 +0100, you wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 04:31:40PM +0100, Leif Dehio wrote: > > heard a new (for me) Chinese numbers station on 8136 kHz > USB today with a loud signal (s9 +10 dB). > Hi Leif, What time did it happen ? JMM, this was between 15:00-15:15 UTC BRGDS -- Leif -- ___ Spooks mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks - Visit http://www.spynumbers.com/ for complete information about Spy Numbers Stations
[Spooks] Chinese numbers
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Hi gang, heard a new (for me) Chinese numbers station on 8136 kHz USB today with a loud signal (s9 +10 dB). I doubt it was transmitted from China due to the very stable and strong signal. Azimuth bearing from Southern Germany was roughly 50 degrees. Audio cut via following link: http://rover.vistecprivat.de/~signals/DUMP/CHN_nmbrs.rm Any one heard this before? BRGDS -- Leif -- +---+ | * Leif Dehio *| | Location: near Munich/Germany | | e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | IRC #monitor (IRC-net) / nick: LDO| | Web-page: http://rover.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~signals | | PGP-key : (v2.6.3i): 0x9B4992F9 on all key servers| | (v5.x & later): 0x0133BD80 on all servers | +---+ ___ Spooks mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks - Visit http://www.spynumbers.com/ for complete information about Spy Numbers Stations
