Re: Password manager locks up Seamonkey 2.46

2017-02-07 Thread PhillipJones 

Bob Minchin wrote:

As per subject really.

I'm running SM 2.46 which when it checks for updates there are none
reported. (although I see references to 2.48?)
I'm using Win XP SP3 and not proposing to change OS.

Every time I open Password manager it opens with a minimum size new
window and just locks up all SM windows and the only way out is Crtl Alt
Delete.
Rebooting the machine has no effect on the problem.

Any ideas Please

Bob


Don't download it I downloaded the Mac version the other and it crashed 
almost as soon as I clicked the icon and send error reports. So I went 
and download 2.46 and reinstalled and haven't had an issue since.


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Re: [webappsstore.sqlite files ] Re: Password manager crashes SeaMonkey

2017-02-07 Thread Verwayne Greenhoe 
I was having this issue with the SM 2.48 version. If I went to check on a
password, it would lock the browser up tight for several minutes. After
reading about the issue with the 'webappsstore.sqlite' issue, I went into
my profile, opened it, closed down SM, and then changed the name to
webappsstorea.sqlite and the issue went away. If I should ever need it,
it's still there. Other than that, I've little other problems.

Thanks!
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[webappsstore.sqlite files ] Re: Password manager crashes SeaMonkey

2017-02-07 Thread Ray_Net 
I don't have this problem ...however I see in the profile directory 
those files:

webappsstore.sqlite   43 MB dated 07-02-17 18:33
webappsstore.sqlite-shm 32KB dated 07-02-17 21:59
webappsstore.sqlite-wl 3KB dated 07-02-17 23:35

It looks that those files are used, BUT I never use SM offline.

So what ? Is it a good idea, when SM is not running to delete those 3 
files to gain 43MB ?  I dont know what's inside those files ... So 
better avoid the deletion ?


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 06-02-17 22:55:
So far most problems with a hung data manager (which password manager 
is a part of) seem to point to an obsolete and bloated 
webappsstore.sqlite in your profile. Please close SeaMonkey and rename 
(or delet if you are sure you don't need the data in it) this file. It 
contains offline website storage. Then check again.


FRG


Bob Minchin wrote:

As per subject.

Seamonkey 2.46
Win XP SP3

As soon as I open up password manager, the application locks up and I 
have to kill it using Cntl Alt Del


Any clues please?

Tia
Bob




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Re: SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit

2017-02-07 Thread S Slicer 

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Do you have a crash id?

FRG

S Slicer wrote:

I am happily using SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit.  This 64-bit version had
been updated to v2.47 and v2.48.  However, both v2.47 and v2.48 crash
whenever I try to compose an e-mail, or reply to an e-mail.  The only
plug-ins I have are Adobe Flash Player, Silverlight.  The only add-on
I have is FireShot which I am not willing to uninstall.

Does anyone know what changed in the newer versions to cause this?


Sorry, but I don't have a crash ID.  I did allow the program to send 
crash reports, probably twice for each of the two newer builds.


Would also like to say thanks to all for the replies!  I understand that 
the most stable thing to do would be to stick with the 32-bit builds, 
but I prefer 64-bit and v2.45 has been very stable for me.

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit

2017-02-07 Thread S Slicer 

Richmond wrote:

me  writes:


S Slicer wrote:

I am happily using SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit.  This 64-bit version had been
updated to v2.47 and v2.48.  However, both v2.47 and v2.48 crash
whenever I try to compose an e-mail, or reply to an e-mail.  The only
plug-ins I have are Adobe Flash Player, Silverlight.  The only add-on I
have is FireShot which I am not willing to uninstall.

Does anyone know what changed in the newer versions to cause this?



I have seen this problem. There was a bugzilla for it. I got around it
by changing my window manager I think.

What O.S. are you using?


Here it is:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1308923


I am using Windows 10 Pro with the anniversary update.
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit

2017-02-07 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

Type about:crashes into the location bar. Your crash reports should be there.
FRG

S Slicer wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Do you have a crash id?

FRG

S Slicer wrote:

I am happily using SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit.  This 64-bit version had
been updated to v2.47 and v2.48.  However, both v2.47 and v2.48 crash
whenever I try to compose an e-mail, or reply to an e-mail.  The only
plug-ins I have are Adobe Flash Player, Silverlight.  The only add-on
I have is FireShot which I am not willing to uninstall.

Does anyone know what changed in the newer versions to cause this?


Sorry, but I don't have a crash ID.  I did allow the program to send crash 
reports, probably twice for each of the two newer builds.


Would also like to say thanks to all for the replies!  I understand that the 
most stable thing to do would be to stick with the 32-bit builds, but I prefer 
64-bit and v2.45 has been very stable for me.


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit

2017-02-07 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 

WaltS48,

> So, in my limited capacity of supporting SeaMonkey. I need to install 2.46
> from the SeaMonkey Project, 2.48 64-bit from Adrian's builds, or is this users
> install from 

no. In theory you would also need to use all platforms and architectures. No 
one expects this. I this case I would just say not reproducible with 2.46 and 
move one. But Adrians builds are supported by the dev team and unless 
SeaMonkey is again able to do day 1 release builds compared to Firefox and 
Thunderbirds they fill a niche quite nicely.


Based on my own local builds I have yet to see bug which was caused by my 
build in case the source wasn't modified. Same with Adrians builds. So its 
actually preferred to get an early warning that 2.48 might have problems :)


FRG

WaltS48 wrote:

On 02/07/2017 01:44 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

 > All of those are unofficial builds. I recommend using the official build
 > from the SeaMonkey Project, which is version 2.46.

Wrong recommendation. Adrians builds are made from the official sources and 
any problem his builds have the official one will have too unless there were 
fixed in the source tree after the build was done. There is nothing wrong 
with using them. The biggest problem is that crashes do not have crash symbols.


FRG


So, in my limited capacity of supporting SeaMonkey. I need to install 2.46 
from the SeaMonkey Project, 2.48 64-bit from Adrian's builds, or is this users 
install from 


It's getting complicated.

Sorry, I think users should stick with SeaMonkey Project releases.



WaltS48 wrote:

On 02/06/2017 07:31 PM, S Slicer wrote:
I am happily using SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit.  This 64-bit version had been 
updated to v2.47 and v2.48.  However, both v2.47 and v2.48 crash whenever 
I try to compose an e-mail, or reply to an e-mail.  The only plug-ins I 
have are Adobe Flash Player, Silverlight.  The only add-on I have is 
FireShot which I am not willing to uninstall.


Does anyone know what changed in the newer versions to cause this?


All of those are unofficial builds. I recommend using the official build 
from the SeaMonkey Project, which is version 2.46.











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Re: Standardized web pages sesigned as diagnostic aid?

2017-02-07 Thread Richmond 
Richard Owlett  writes:

> Back in January I started a thread about default zoom levels.
> I *THOUGHT* I had resolved my problems.
> No longer so sure.
> For my fellow old-timers who predate color TV, I'm looking for something that
> would serve a similar function as the "Test Pattern" transmitted before the
> broadcast day began.
> TIA

Try looking at the same page in different browsers. Try in safe
mode. Try with a new profile.

Ultimately HTML is very much open to interpretation.

Once thing that really screws things up in my experience is minimum font
sizes.
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Re: Standardized web pages sesigned as diagnostic aid?

2017-02-07 Thread Richard Owlett 

On 02/07/2017 09:46 AM, EE wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

Back in January I started a thread about default zoom levels.
I *THOUGHT* I had resolved my problems.
No longer so sure.
For my fellow old-timers who predate color TV, I'm looking for
something
that would serve a similar function as the "Test Pattern"
transmitted
before the broadcast day began.
TIA


I doubt that it is needed.  If your browser has no connection, it
is pretty obvious as soon as you try to access anything online.



This was not a total failure situation.
More along line of "Did I receive the intended experience?"


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Re: Standardized web pages sesigned as diagnostic aid?

2017-02-07 Thread Richard Owlett 

On 02/07/2017 09:33 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 2/7/2017 at 10:01 AM, Richard Owlett's prodigious digits fired
off with great aplomb:

Back in January I started a thread about default zoom levels.
I *THOUGHT* I had resolved my problems.
No longer so sure.
For my fellow old-timers who predate color TV, I'm looking for
something
that would serve a similar function as the "Test Pattern"
transmitted
before the broadcast day began.
TIA


Not clear what your problem is. What are you trying to
solve/achieve?



If I actually knew what my problem was, it would be essentially 
solved.


Lee's reference to 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RCA_Indian_Head_test_pattern.JPG 
is likely the key.


With it I know what I SHOULD see and it gives me something to 
refer to in describing aberrations that would make sense to others.
My "problem(s)" revolved around "Was I seeing what the author 
intended?"

The interim answer is yes.


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Re: Standardized web pages sesigned as diagnostic aid?

2017-02-07 Thread EE 

Richard Owlett wrote:

Back in January I started a thread about default zoom levels.
I *THOUGHT* I had resolved my problems.
No longer so sure.
For my fellow old-timers who predate color TV, I'm looking for something
that would serve a similar function as the "Test Pattern" transmitted
before the broadcast day began.
TIA


I doubt that it is needed.  If your browser has no connection, it is 
pretty obvious as soon as you try to access anything online.


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Re: browser gone

2017-02-07 Thread rjkrjk 

tks

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 2/6/17 9:04 PM:

rjkrjk wrote:

seems I clicked on something, and now I can't get to the browser

I think it was VIEW

help !!

Go here:  File->New->New Browser Window

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Re: Standardized web pages sesigned as diagnostic aid?

2017-02-07 Thread Richard Owlett 

On 02/07/2017 09:12 AM, Lee wrote:

On 2/7/17, Richard Owlett  wrote:

Back in January I started a thread about default zoom levels.
I *THOUGHT* I had resolved my problems.
No longer so sure.
For my fellow old-timers who predate color TV, I'm looking for
something that would serve a similar function as the "Test
Pattern" transmitted before the broadcast day began.


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RCA_Indian_Head_test_pattern.JPG
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Resolution_test_charts



Thank you.
Wasn't expecting that particular literal interpretation <*GRIN*>
*HOWEVER* the first link provided a necessary sanity check.

I was trying to describe an analog of what I was looking for.
Back in the day we needed an aid to adjust internals such as 
centering of the image and horizontal/vertical linearity.


I was looking for something that would do something analogous for 
HTML.


As I think about it, I begin to wonder if that first link is 
actually answering questions I haven't figured out how to ask :)



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Re: Standardized web pages sesigned as diagnostic aid?

2017-02-07 Thread Ed Mullen 
On 2/7/2017 at 10:01 AM, Richard Owlett's prodigious digits fired off 
with great aplomb:

Back in January I started a thread about default zoom levels.
I *THOUGHT* I had resolved my problems.
No longer so sure.
For my fellow old-timers who predate color TV, I'm looking for something
that would serve a similar function as the "Test Pattern" transmitted
before the broadcast day began.
TIA


Not clear what your problem is. What are you trying to solve/achieve?

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Re: Standardized web pages sesigned as diagnostic aid?

2017-02-07 Thread Lee 
On 2/7/17, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> Back in January I started a thread about default zoom levels.
> I *THOUGHT* I had resolved my problems.
> No longer so sure.
> For my fellow old-timers who predate color TV, I'm looking for
> something that would serve a similar function as the "Test
> Pattern" transmitted before the broadcast day began.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RCA_Indian_Head_test_pattern.JPG
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Resolution_test_charts
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Standardized web pages sesigned as diagnostic aid?

2017-02-07 Thread Richard Owlett 

Back in January I started a thread about default zoom levels.
I *THOUGHT* I had resolved my problems.
No longer so sure.
For my fellow old-timers who predate color TV, I'm looking for 
something that would serve a similar function as the "Test 
Pattern" transmitted before the broadcast day began.

TIA
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit

2017-02-07 Thread WaltS48 

On 02/07/2017 01:44 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

 > All of those are unofficial builds. I recommend using the official build
 > from the SeaMonkey Project, which is version 2.46.

Wrong recommendation. Adrians builds are made from the official sources 
and any problem his builds have the official one will have too unless 
there were fixed in the source tree after the build was done. There is 
nothing wrong with using them. The biggest problem is that crashes do 
not have crash symbols.


FRG


So, in my limited capacity of supporting SeaMonkey. I need to install 
2.46 from the SeaMonkey Project, 2.48 64-bit from Adrian's builds, or is 
this users install from 



It's getting complicated.

Sorry, I think users should stick with SeaMonkey Project releases.



WaltS48 wrote:

On 02/06/2017 07:31 PM, S Slicer wrote:
I am happily using SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit.  This 64-bit version had 
been updated to v2.47 and v2.48.  However, both v2.47 and v2.48 crash 
whenever I try to compose an e-mail, or reply to an e-mail.  The only 
plug-ins I have are Adobe Flash Player, Silverlight.  The only add-on 
I have is FireShot which I am not willing to uninstall.


Does anyone know what changed in the newer versions to cause this?


All of those are unofficial builds. I recommend using the official 
build from the SeaMonkey Project, which is version 2.46.









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Re: SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit

2017-02-07 Thread Richmond 
me  writes:

> S Slicer wrote:
>> I am happily using SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit.  This 64-bit version had been 
>> updated to v2.47 and v2.48.  However, both v2.47 and v2.48 crash 
>> whenever I try to compose an e-mail, or reply to an e-mail.  The only 
>> plug-ins I have are Adobe Flash Player, Silverlight.  The only add-on I 
>> have is FireShot which I am not willing to uninstall.
>> 
>> Does anyone know what changed in the newer versions to cause this?
>> 
>
> I have seen this problem. There was a bugzilla for it. I got around it
> by changing my window manager I think.
>
> What O.S. are you using?

Here it is:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1308923
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit

2017-02-07 Thread me 
S Slicer wrote:
> I am happily using SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit.  This 64-bit version had been 
> updated to v2.47 and v2.48.  However, both v2.47 and v2.48 crash 
> whenever I try to compose an e-mail, or reply to an e-mail.  The only 
> plug-ins I have are Adobe Flash Player, Silverlight.  The only add-on I 
> have is FireShot which I am not willing to uninstall.
> 
> Does anyone know what changed in the newer versions to cause this?
> 

I have seen this problem. There was a bugzilla for it. I got around it
by changing my window manager I think.

What O.S. are you using?

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit

2017-02-07 Thread me 
S Slicer wrote:
> I am happily using SeaMonkey v2.45 64-bit.  This 64-bit version had been 
> updated to v2.47 and v2.48.  However, both v2.47 and v2.48 crash 
> whenever I try to compose an e-mail, or reply to an e-mail.  The only 
> plug-ins I have are Adobe Flash Player, Silverlight.  The only add-on I 
> have is FireShot which I am not willing to uninstall.
> 
> Does anyone know what changed in the newer versions to cause this?
> 

I have seen this problem. There was a bugzilla for it. I got around it
by changing my window manager I think.

What O.S. are you using?

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