Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials of lying about 9/11
Original query from Bob Allen: > > Didn't Jones collaborate with Fleischmann and Pons > > in the cold fusion fiasco? >Response from Todd Swearingen: >Two separate "teams" working towards different goals, although the >mediums were largely similar. They shared some data but essentially >worked independantly. Todd's response reminds me of something. The worldwide sensation caused by the Fleischmann and Pons "publication by press conference" of their beaker-scale, electrochemical supposed *cold fusion* results led the Utah legislature to appropriate a large parcel of support funding for cold fusion research by way of a special research foundation, or something like that. It became a matter of high Utah state pride. As was very reasonable for him to do, Steven Jones did accept a share of this very unexpected source of funding for his research. And as part of the functioning of the "Utah cold fusion research foundation," and just as a natural course, there undoubtedly was some sharing of data as pointed out by Todd. -- Jack ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials of lying about 9/11
Sorry, folks, for the doubled excerpt quotation.I wrote: [Excerpt from Answers.com] "In the mid 1980s, Jones . "In the mid 1980s, Jones . ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials of lying about 9/11
Bob Allen writes: Is there something in the water in Utah? Didn't Jones collaborate with Fleischmann and Pons in the cold fusion fiasco? No. Being a resident of the Salt Lake region at the time (I lived in Southwest Wyoming), I followed this one closely. Jones at Brigham Young University (BYU) in Provo, UT, was very active in dissociating his work from that of Fleischmann and Pons at the nearby University of Utah in Salt Lake City. [Excerpt from Answers.com] "In the mid 1980s, Jones and other BYU scientists demonstrated an interesting new effect related to the potential for harnessing energy from cold fusion, now also referred to as muon-catalyzed fusion. The Jones process not to be confused with the Cold fusion research of Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann did not produce excess heat, and therefore did not provide a source of energy. The Jones process, through measurement of charged particles, demonstrated excellent validation that nuclear processes can occur in a relatively simple, room temperature experiment. "In the mid 1980s, Jones and other BYU scientists demonstrated an interesting new effect related to the potential for harnessing energy from cold fusion, now also referred to as muon-catalyzed fusion. The Jones process not to be confused with the Cold fusion research of Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann did not produce excess heat, and therefore did not provide a source of energy. The Jones process, through measurement of charged particles, demonstrated excellent validation that nuclear processes can occur in a relatively simple, room temperature experiment." [continues] http://www.answers.com/topic/steven-e-jones ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet
From Keith Addison: http://www.alternet.org/story/33896/ Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet By Don Hazen, AlterNet. Posted March 23, 2006."Lately, I've been thinking a lot about the '60s (actually the period from '67 to '73) -- that political era so filled with possibility, so much a part of the blood and souls of millions of aging baby boomers like myself. The period was profoundly effective in the changes it provoked, yet is so persistently pilloried for its exaggerated excesses." This brings back a wave of nostalgia for me. I am 66 years old and from the so-called "silent generation" that preceded the baby boomers, but in 1972 this Oklahoman found himself campaigning for George McGovern on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. McGovern lost to Nixon after which I was in a peaceful march on Washington with about 200,000 people coming in buses from up and down the East Coast on January 20, 1973, the day of Nixon's second inaugural. Our march was a counter-event to the Nixon inauguration. We were civil and at the Washington Monument we heard dignified speeches from Senator Philip Hart, Rep. Bella Abzug, songs and speaking from Pete Seeger, etc. But in a typical 60's way, our day was cut short when Washington police on horseback scarily rode at fast gait though our group - breaking it up - in an overreaction to a few extremists, not with our group, burning some of the flags that surround the Washington Monument. -- Jack ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Oil in Alberta
Zeke writes concerning Alberta oil sands: And where do they get the energy to steam heat the sands to extract the oil? One possibility: "A nuclear steam plant in Alberta would reduce the cost dramatically. Convert this goo for $30 or less and we would scare the pants of XOM [Exxon-Mobil] and the Saudi King." [last sentence] http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2005/12/oil_sands.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Crower six-stroke engine
Bruce Crower company website: http://www.crower.com/[2006 Master Catalog] Contact for Crower Cams and Equipment Company, Inc. 6180 Business Center Court San Diego, CA 92154-5604 USA Phone: 619-661-6477 · Fax: 619-661-6466 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Small oil press
From Keith: > http://www.piteba.com/eng/index_eng.htm Piteba manual oil expeller Thanks, Keith, for this interesting forward. A study of the website reveals the main markets for Dutch-made Piteba manual oil expellers includes tropical and sub-tropical countries such as Zambia, Mozambique, etc. At the website link - [Guide to make edible oils] - the situation creating the market is summarized. "The minimum annual requirement of oils and fats is between 8.5 10.0 kg per adult according to the World Health Organization. Edible oils and fats are essential for good health. However, in many countries there is a great scarcity of edible oils and as a result the price of one kilogram oil is frequently more than the daily wage of a labourer! Many national and international organizations as well as private companies have developed manually operated oil presses for small scale entrepreneurs or small groups of farmers. The aspect of manual operation is important as the poorer segment of the rural population in many countries is frequently too poor to consider mechanization of processing by using an electromotor or petrol engine." -- Jack ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] best source for WVO
Concerning the results of adding sugar to gasoline - I find data suggesting that relatively low amounts of sugar present in gasoline might be fairly harmless compared to 2lbs of sugar poured into a gas tank, resulting in the engine being irreparably damaged within 50 miles, as reported by Bob Carr. Like Bob, I have also know about similar horror stories so I do not aim to discredit Bob's information. I only mean to suggest that minor amounts of sugar in a candidate WVO may not rule out its usefulness. A slide presentation that includes data for a systematic study of sugar added to gasoline is cited. -- Jack --- A History of Engine Defeat Through Chemical Means Kenneth R. Collins Donald R. Bowie US Army Edgewood Chemical Biological Center Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland One of the more interesting aspects of nonlethal warfare considers the possibility of the defeat of engines without causing extensive damage to their surroundings or operating personnel. [continues, slides 10 to 14] Complete Slide presentation: http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/nld4/collins2.pdf [Slide 9 of 14] Engine Defeat Through Chemical Means - Sugar Fact or Fiction? *Upper limits for solubility of sucrose in gasoline using C14 labeled sugar - 1.5 mg/liter (ca 2 ppm) J. Forensic Sciences 38, pg 757 (July 93) & 39, pp 303-304 (Mar 94) *ASTM D-381 gum results - SwRI Unpublished Data Neat Granulated Powdered Brown Fuel Sugar Sugar Sugar Diesel DF-2 10.3 8.5 5.7 5.6 Jet A 0.5 1.0 0.7 0.7 JP-4 0.6 0.3 0.4 3.2 Unleaded Gasoline 1.2 1.0 0.2 1.6 1urs10 gm of sugar added to 1 liter of fuel, stirred for 24 hours -- [On the slide, this quote is added to emphasize the distinction between high and low sugar addition.] A large amount of sugar could stop fuel flow in many systems but so could plain dust swept from the ground. --- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] what is "best " sources for WVO?
This news item seemingly has some relevance for the best sources for WVO thread. -- Jack --- Northwest Burger Chain Begins Biodiesel Production Plan March 22, 2006 Vancouver, Washington [RenewableEnergyAccess.com] The Holland, Inc., announced that it has implemented a program in which it will recycle the cooking oil from its Burgerville restaurants into biodiesel, a cleaner burning blend of diesel fuel. All 39 Burgerville locations throughout the Pacific Northwest will have their used cooking oil picked up by Portland-based MRP Services and taken to a processing plant where the oil is transformed into methyl esters (biodiesel) and glycerin (a byproduct) through a process called transesterification. [continues] http://renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=44412 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Greenpeace finds Heinz Baby Rice Cereal contaminated by illegal GE rice
Keith's post concerning Greenpeace finding Heinz Baby Rice Cereal contaminated by illegal genetically engineered rice makes me wonder if the iron and arsenic content of the Heinz Baby Rice Cereal is also being checked by Greenpeace or others. - 'Institute of Science In Society' Press Release September 13, 2004 Rice in Asia: Too Little Iron, Too Much Arsenic Asians are getting too little iron and too much arsenic from soil and water. Unfortunately the remedy for one problem may increase the impact of the other. The challenge is to find a remedy that takes care of both problems, says Prof. Joe Cummins. [continues] http://www.i-sis.org.uk/RIATLITMA.php -- Jack ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] automating titration
Joe Street writes: ... If you are really well coordinated you might be able to control the [titrating] solution with one hand and stir with the other but I am waaay too clumsy for that ... [versus using a magnetic stirrer] Joe, you gave me a chuckle along with some pleasant nostalgia. My chemistry training in the 1950's predates magnetic stirrers to the time when swirling the sample solution in an Erlenmeyer flask was the main method for sample agitation during titration. With all the awesome developments in instrumental analytical chemistry, lab automation, etc., for me the two most useful tools developed for lab work within the last 50 years or so are the magnetic stirrer and the hand-held calculator. -- Jack ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
