Re: [biofuel] Used motor oil
An aquintance of me burns the used motor oil in a stove to heat part of his house. That's also a possibility. At 02:20 AM 7/8/2004 +0200, you wrote: >Hi all, >Does anyone know if it is possible to make diesel fuel out of used motor oil >? >I know this is not environmental friendly, but it is there anyway, so why >not use it as a fuel ? > >Met dank en vriendelijke groet, >Pieter Koole >Netherlands > >The information contained in this message (including attachments) is >confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) >only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and >notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, >copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be >liable for direct, special, indirect or >consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this >message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result >of any virus being passed on. > > >- Original Message - >From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 10:42 AM >Subject: Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale - Pieter > > > > Pieter > > > > Sorry for the delay. > > > > The centrifuge is a Westfalia marine oil > > centrifuge with 1-phase 230V and 415V 3-phase > > motors, stainless steel disc stack. > > > > What are you offering? > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! >Messenger - so many all-new ways to express yourself >http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Deze e-mail is door E-mail VirusScanner van Planet Internet gecontroleerd >op virussen. > > Op http://www.planet.nl/evs staat een verwijzing naar de actuele lijst >waar op wordt gecontroleerd. > > > > > > > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuels list archives: >http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Used motor oil
Hi all, Does anyone know if it is possible to make diesel fuel out of used motor oil ? I know this is not environmental friendly, but it is there anyway, so why not use it as a fuel ? Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale - Pieter > Pieter > > Sorry for the delay. > > The centrifuge is a Westfalia marine oil > centrifuge with 1-phase 230V and 415V 3-phase > motors, stainless steel disc stack. > > What are you offering? > > > > > > ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - so many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Deze e-mail is door E-mail VirusScanner van Planet Internet gecontroleerd op virussen. > Op http://www.planet.nl/evs staat een verwijzing naar de actuele lijst waar op wordt gecontroleerd. > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
R: [biofuel] Used motor oil
Dear Franklin, I don't know if the waste engine oil mix with biodiesel. The waste engine oil is a mix of hydrocarbons of medium-high molecular weight, and contains a lot of carbonaceous matter (residues form cleaning the motor) and metal particles from motor wear. Normally this waste oil is recicle but is treat with steam, filtered and mixed with fresh oil to produce more lubrificant or filtered for burning in industrial systems, like industrial combustible for heaters. Regards Rodolfo - Original Message - From: Franklin B. Del Rosario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 4:35 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Used motor oil > Great!!! how about B100 mixed with filtered waste engine oil (very few > shop here in Manila recycle waste engine oil sometimes it end in storm > drain, waste water or dump site) one gallon to tank full (50 liters) of > B100, how about the color of waste engine oil can this be improved from > pitch black to amber, I never tried using activated carbon, settling and > filtration for waste engine oil any suggestion is a welcome idea to > recycle waste engine oil for better used. > > Regards, to all > frank > > -Original Message- > From: Alan Petrillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 1:52 AM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Used motor oil > > Gasoline Fumes wrote: > > > Hi, I just joined the group. I'm very interested in making biodiesel, > > but have a question about using used motor oil as a diesel fuel. I > > know it wouldn't be "bio," but it seems like a good way to get rid of > > the oil. Can it be converted to diesel fuel using the same methods as > > SVO? Or is there another way? And how clean would it burn? > > If you're going to use waste motor oil as fuel the first thing you want > to do is filter the heck out of it. Run it through a 5 micron filter. > And then run it through again. Then just run it about a gallon or so > per tankful of diesel. It _will_ crud up your fuel filter, though not > badly so. > > > AP > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Used motor oil
In a message dated 1/4/04 7:31:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Great!!! how about B100 mixed with filtered waste engine oil (very few > shop here in Manila recycle waste engine oil sometimes it end in storm > drain, waste water or dump site) one gallon to tank full (50 liters) of > B100, how about the color of waste engine oil can this be improved from > pitch black to amber, I never tried using activated carbon, settling and > filtration for waste engine oil any suggestion is a welcome idea to > recycle waste engine oil for better used. > > Regards, to all > frank > Cleaning waste motor oil is really difficult. Makes me respect the strength of those little paper filters! A submicron filter or even about 2 micron plugs right away. The viscosity of the oil requires high pressure or strong vacuum. Then, you run the risk of rupturing the filter. Commercial oil recyclers use heat, acid treatment and filtration through diatomaceous earth to make their product. I've considered diluting the oil with a solvent, then centrifuging it to settle out the solids, then filtration and finally distillation to recover the solvent. That should produce a pretty good oil. But, of course, if you have to do all that, it would be best to reuse it, not try to use it for fuel. -- Jay [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Used motor oil
Great!!! how about B100 mixed with filtered waste engine oil (very few shop here in Manila recycle waste engine oil sometimes it end in storm drain, waste water or dump site) one gallon to tank full (50 liters) of B100, how about the color of waste engine oil can this be improved from pitch black to amber, I never tried using activated carbon, settling and filtration for waste engine oil any suggestion is a welcome idea to recycle waste engine oil for better used. Regards, to all frank -Original Message- From: Alan Petrillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 1:52 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Used motor oil Gasoline Fumes wrote: > Hi, I just joined the group. I'm very interested in making biodiesel, > but have a question about using used motor oil as a diesel fuel. I > know it wouldn't be "bio," but it seems like a good way to get rid of > the oil. Can it be converted to diesel fuel using the same methods as > SVO? Or is there another way? And how clean would it burn? If you're going to use waste motor oil as fuel the first thing you want to do is filter the heck out of it. Run it through a 5 micron filter. And then run it through again. Then just run it about a gallon or so per tankful of diesel. It _will_ crud up your fuel filter, though not badly so. AP Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Used motor oil
Gasoline Fumes wrote: > Hi, I just joined the group. I'm very interested in making biodiesel, > but have a question about using used motor oil as a diesel fuel. I > know it wouldn't be "bio," but it seems like a good way to get rid of > the oil. Can it be converted to diesel fuel using the same methods as > SVO? Or is there another way? And how clean would it burn? If you're going to use waste motor oil as fuel the first thing you want to do is filter the heck out of it. Run it through a 5 micron filter. And then run it through again. Then just run it about a gallon or so per tankful of diesel. It _will_ crud up your fuel filter, though not badly so. AP Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Used motor oil
Hi, I just joined the group. I'm very interested in making biodiesel, but have a question about using used motor oil as a diesel fuel. I know it wouldn't be "bio," but it seems like a good way to get rid of the oil. Can it be converted to diesel fuel using the same methods as SVO? Or is there another way? And how clean would it burn? Thanks. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Used motor oil
from http://www.recycleoil.org/ : Motor oil doesn't wear out - it just gets dirty. The oil you take to a collection center to be recycled saves energy. It can be reprocessed and used in furnaces for heat, or in power plants to generate electricity for homes, schools and businesses. It can also be made into lubricating oils that meet the same specifications as virgin motor oil through API's Engine Oil Licensing and Certification Program. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 8:59 AM Subject: [biofuel] Used motor oil > Let's suppose that I had a very large supply of used motor oil. Say several > RR tank cars a week. And let's say I had a modest chemical plant to do > anything with this oil I choose. And that this is all located in the USA. > > What are my best options? I am already working on using some of it for > boiler fuel to cut the reliance on natural gas at the plant in its 20,000,000 > btu boilers. > > Cornelius A. Van Milligen > Kentucky Enrichment Inc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Used motor oil
The burning of used motor oil, hydraulic and transmission fluids is specific furnaces and boilers is permitted within the US. These units cannot be over a specific BTU output. www.cleanburn.com utilizes compressed air to ensure higher degrees of complete combustion. There may be others. But theirs are EPA accepted. Todd Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Dana Linscott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Used motor oil > Cornelius, > > Be very careful. > Used motor oil contains heavy metals which can > classify it as a hazardous waste. Often special > permits are needed to burn it as fuel. Failure to get > ALL of these permits are financially devastating. If > you remove these heavy metals the waste product > containing them is definately considered hazardous > waste and MUST be disposed of properly. > Don't try to short cut proper disposal as you will be > caught and the results are financially devastating. > > I would suggest: > 1.You contact your state and local pollution control > agencies to see what the pollution control requirments > are on burning waste motor oil...and what legislation > may be comming down the pike. > > 2.You contact others who currently burn waste oil to > see what thye do about permits, etc. Many asphalt > plants burn waste engine oil. I would start there. > > Be careful. > Good luck. > > Dana Linscott > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Let's suppose that I had a very large supply of used > > motor oil. Say several > > RR tank cars a week. And let's say I had a modest > > chemical plant to do > > anything with this oil I choose. And that this is > > all located in the USA. > > > > What are my best options? I am already working on > > using some of it for > > boiler fuel to cut the reliance on natural gas at > > the plant in its 20,000,000 > > btu boilers. > > > > Cornelius A. Van Milligen > > Kentucky Enrichment Inc > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Used motor oil
Cornelius, Be very careful. Used motor oil contains heavy metals which can classify it as a hazardous waste. Often special permits are needed to burn it as fuel. Failure to get ALL of these permits are financially devastating. If you remove these heavy metals the waste product containing them is definately considered hazardous waste and MUST be disposed of properly. Don't try to short cut proper disposal as you will be caught and the results are financially devastating. I would suggest: 1.You contact your state and local pollution control agencies to see what the pollution control requirments are on burning waste motor oil...and what legislation may be comming down the pike. 2.You contact others who currently burn waste oil to see what thye do about permits, etc. Many asphalt plants burn waste engine oil. I would start there. Be careful. Good luck. Dana Linscott --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Let's suppose that I had a very large supply of used > motor oil. Say several > RR tank cars a week. And let's say I had a modest > chemical plant to do > anything with this oil I choose. And that this is > all located in the USA. > > What are my best options? I am already working on > using some of it for > boiler fuel to cut the reliance on natural gas at > the plant in its 20,000,000 > btu boilers. > > Cornelius A. Van Milligen > Kentucky Enrichment Inc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Used motor oil
Let's suppose that I had a very large supply of used motor oil. Say several RR tank cars a week. And let's say I had a modest chemical plant to do anything with this oil I choose. And that this is all located in the USA. What are my best options? I am already working on using some of it for boiler fuel to cut the reliance on natural gas at the plant in its 20,000,000 btu boilers. Cornelius A. Van Milligen Kentucky Enrichment Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
