Re: [GTALUG] Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
I have the same layout... model KU-1255, manufactured 2018-08-21. :-) All our laptops at work are ThinkPad, so I'm used to ThinkPad layout. I was planning to buy 3 of this, one for work desktop, work test area, and home. Unfortunately, it's not panning out that way. I don't think it was a bad purchase, though. I'm typing on it at home where I'm running out of desk space and USB ports. -- William Park On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 12:09:31AM -0400, David Ing i...@daviding.com wrote: > The current Thinkpad Wired USB Keyboard with Trackpoint matches the layout > on current Thinkpads (i.e. later than T430, X230, ...). > > I preferred the predecessor model as better built, matching the original > Thinkpad keyboard layouts (i.e. earlier than T420, X220, ...). However, > that model has been discontinued for some years, and available on eBay only > at outrageous prices. > > I just replaced my keyboard of 2015 with the exact same model. It's the > only practical choice if you want a keyboard with a Trackpoint. After I > got the replacement, my friend Don tried to fix the old one -- see > http://dontai.com/wp/2018/09/06/thinkpad-wired-usb-keyboard-with-trackpoint-0b47190-disassembly-and-cleaning/ > -- but the fix only works intermittently. (I use the right mouse button, a > lot!) > > The external keyboard, as an alternative to a built-in keyboard on a > Thinkpad, has been a standard for me for many decades. Way back, the > company had to get the built-in keyboard replaced because I have a heavy > touch, and would wear it out. It's much cheaper (and ergonomically better) > to have an external keyboard that plugs into my Thinkpad dock, that is > field-replaceable. I'm so used to the Trackpoint that working on a > trackpad or mouse really slows me down. > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:56 PM William Park via talk > wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:35:42PM -0400, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote: > > > The also make a USB only version, which I have two of as daily drivers > > for > > > at home and work. > > > > > https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/accessories-and-monitors/keyboards-and-mice/keyboards/KEYBOARD-US-English/p/0B47190 > > > > I bought one for $60 from lenovo.ca, and just got it this morning. > > After using it for 1 full day, I found that its $60 price is reasonable. > > Think of it as $30 keyboard and $20 mouse, plus $10 premium for > > integrating into one package. > > > > - UPS delivered the package crushed and ripped on one side. But, I > > don't see any physical damage to the content or missing parts. > > There is only 2 parts: keyboard and micro-USB cable. > > > > - Key press feels and sounds cheap. Keyboard on real ThinkPad > > laptop is way better. > > > > - The keyboard is light, compact, and it flexes. But, rubber feets > > and risers don't slip. > > > > - PAGEUP and PAGEDOWN are with inverted-T arrows. And, HOME, END, > > INSERT, DELETE are located linearly on top row. I have to look > > down to see where all the keys are. > > > > - Fn key is left-most key where Ctrl should be. I'll never get used > > to this. > > > > - ESC is too small, and I'm a vi-guy. > > > > In conclusion, if you're short of desk space, then it's good option. > > It's not for doing real work, at least for me. > > -- > > William Park > > --- > > Talk Mailing List > > talk@gtalug.org > > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
The current Thinkpad Wired USB Keyboard with Trackpoint matches the layout on current Thinkpads (i.e. later than T430, X230, ...). I preferred the predecessor model as better built, matching the original Thinkpad keyboard layouts (i.e. earlier than T420, X220, ...). However, that model has been discontinued for some years, and available on eBay only at outrageous prices. I just replaced my keyboard of 2015 with the exact same model. It's the only practical choice if you want a keyboard with a Trackpoint. After I got the replacement, my friend Don tried to fix the old one -- see http://dontai.com/wp/2018/09/06/thinkpad-wired-usb-keyboard-with-trackpoint-0b47190-disassembly-and-cleaning/ -- but the fix only works intermittently. (I use the right mouse button, a lot!) The external keyboard, as an alternative to a built-in keyboard on a Thinkpad, has been a standard for me for many decades. Way back, the company had to get the built-in keyboard replaced because I have a heavy touch, and would wear it out. It's much cheaper (and ergonomically better) to have an external keyboard that plugs into my Thinkpad dock, that is field-replaceable. I'm so used to the Trackpoint that working on a trackpad or mouse really slows me down. On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 11:56 PM William Park via talk wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:35:42PM -0400, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote: > > The also make a USB only version, which I have two of as daily drivers > for > > at home and work. > > > https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/accessories-and-monitors/keyboards-and-mice/keyboards/KEYBOARD-US-English/p/0B47190 > > I bought one for $60 from lenovo.ca, and just got it this morning. > After using it for 1 full day, I found that its $60 price is reasonable. > Think of it as $30 keyboard and $20 mouse, plus $10 premium for > integrating into one package. > > - UPS delivered the package crushed and ripped on one side. But, I > don't see any physical damage to the content or missing parts. > There is only 2 parts: keyboard and micro-USB cable. > > - Key press feels and sounds cheap. Keyboard on real ThinkPad > laptop is way better. > > - The keyboard is light, compact, and it flexes. But, rubber feets > and risers don't slip. > > - PAGEUP and PAGEDOWN are with inverted-T arrows. And, HOME, END, > INSERT, DELETE are located linearly on top row. I have to look > down to see where all the keys are. > > - Fn key is left-most key where Ctrl should be. I'll never get used > to this. > > - ESC is too small, and I'm a vi-guy. > > In conclusion, if you're short of desk space, then it's good option. > It's not for doing real work, at least for me. > -- > William Park > --- > Talk Mailing List > talk@gtalug.org > https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 06:35:42PM -0400, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote: > The also make a USB only version, which I have two of as daily drivers for > at home and work. > https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/accessories-and-monitors/keyboards-and-mice/keyboards/KEYBOARD-US-English/p/0B47190 I bought one for $60 from lenovo.ca, and just got it this morning. After using it for 1 full day, I found that its $60 price is reasonable. Think of it as $30 keyboard and $20 mouse, plus $10 premium for integrating into one package. - UPS delivered the package crushed and ripped on one side. But, I don't see any physical damage to the content or missing parts. There is only 2 parts: keyboard and micro-USB cable. - Key press feels and sounds cheap. Keyboard on real ThinkPad laptop is way better. - The keyboard is light, compact, and it flexes. But, rubber feets and risers don't slip. - PAGEUP and PAGEDOWN are with inverted-T arrows. And, HOME, END, INSERT, DELETE are located linearly on top row. I have to look down to see where all the keys are. - Fn key is left-most key where Ctrl should be. I'll never get used to this. - ESC is too small, and I'm a vi-guy. In conclusion, if you're short of desk space, then it's good option. It's not for doing real work, at least for me. -- William Park --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [GTALUG] [GTALUG-Announce] In The Community
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 23:23, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote: > I've been told to ignore the 'tickets' statement as this is a free event. > > On September 15, 2018 6:23:38 PM EDT, "D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk" < > talk@gtalug.org> wrote: > >| From: Scott Sullivan via talk > > > >| Privacy and security on the 21st Century Internet: a big picture view > > > >Thanks! > > > >Interesting. I did not know of this. > > > >Unfortunately tickets are no longer available. > > -- > Scott Sullivan > The reason the library does tickets for free events is so that they don't over-book their facilities. Undoubtedly there will be some no-shows so there may well be extra seats, but there's a seating limit at the NYCL Auditorium and it will be enforced. What happens at "sold out" Toronto Reference Library events is that everyone who is wait-listed or without a ticket has to wait until a few minutes before the event and then they let in as many people as they can to fill available seats. But just showing up doesn't guarantee you'll get in. As I say: there will be no-shows (it's free, people book on-spec) so it's worth a try if it's important to you. (Yes, I work for the library. No, I won't be there and I'm in no way involved in these events - I'm not an official voice on the subject.) -- Giles https://www.gilesorr.com/ giles...@gmail.com --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
