WE with Win 10 Fall creator
Does WE still working well with Win 10 Fall Creator? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
been a great ride
I have been a member of this list for many many years and have received lots of help over those years. Sadly I have moved away from Window Eyes and am now using NVDA as well as the free transfer to Jaws. Thanks to Doug for getting us WE users that free Jaws as I would have never paid for Jaws. Having made the switch I know that WE has been the best screen reader for me and it is a dam shame that Doug and crew couldn't have done a better job of promoting their product so they could have beaten Jaws. Thanks to all that have put up with me. I am now unsubscribing from the list and hope to see many of you on the NVDA and Jaws lists. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE Remote assistance
We all have to fully understand that Window Eyes developement and support is over. Use it until it stops working but take a look at NVDA to see how well it works. On 7/25/2017 4:25 PM, via Talk wrote: Hi: Speaking of remote assistance, I assume that will also go away once the GW Micro servers go down. Am I right about this? Thanks! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
latest Thunderbird
I am having no issues with using WE and the latest version of Thunderbird on a Win 10 system. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Behind in times.
Having been a user of Window Eyes for over twenty years I still believe that it is the best screen reader. I did take the offer for the free JAWs and have used it some and it is OK but not great. I do find NVDA very useable and am currently using it as my main screen reader. Only been a few occasions when I had to fire up WE to get something done. Have always used the DecAccess 32 software syn with WE and NVDA has a access32 addon that makes it sound just like WE. So if you have not yet done so give NVDA a try. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
tutorials
Are there any good tutorials on a blind person using a Apple IPad? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE versus NVDA
I haven't used WE for the past month, using NVDA for everything. I only use my computer for generating Word Docs, Surfing the Wed and Email. Nvda also works pretty well with the MS Edge browser. Finding more and more sites that work poorly with IE so I am using Google Chrome for most surfing. Have Jaws installed but don't use it much. Never thought there would be a day when I wasn't using Window Eyes for all my screen reading needs. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: opening a web site
If you are talking about Google chrome once it is open just type in the web address and hit enter. On 7/9/2017 3:28 PM, Paulette Vickery via Talk wrote: Hi all, I am sorry to ask this again, but I just can't remember how to go to a specific website from Google. Would someone please tell me again? Paulette ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
future use of WE
I have been a WE user for over 20 years and always felt it was the best screen reader. Now with no more development I have to realize that the next major release of Win 10 just may stop WE dead in its tracks. As I recall in the past every new release of Windows required an update to WE to make WE work with it. So now if you plan on using WE well into the future you are probably going to have to avoid any future major Windows upgrades. Is that a bad thing who knows. I am finding that NVDA does a pretty good job with very few things it doesn't do as well as WE. I did take up VFO's offer of a free copy of Jaws and am using it as my secondary screen reader. If you plan on staying with a Windows based computer I don't understand why you would not take the free copy of Jaws. Actually the Jaws SMA's are less expensive than the WE SMA's I had purchased in the past. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Progress indicator still does not work!
I am finding that NVDA is meeting my needs better than Jaws.I say this having been a Window Eyes user for over 20 years. On 6/26/2017 6:20 PM, michaels mail via Talk wrote: I find with Jaws it does not always read the progress status all the time. We was very spoilt with window eyes that just did it for us. -Original Message- From: Richard Jarvis via Talk Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 5:54 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com cheers Michael. Subject: Progress indicator still does not work! Thank you Net bat for the info. I went into the jaws control panel but was unable to get the progress indicator to work. It is set to give progress every 5 seconds. Even though it is set to do so it won't work. Never had this problem with win-eyes. Thanks Rick ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michaelandjeanie%40aapt.net.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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move to jaws
I have found that a great combination to have is NVDA and Jaws. Since getting my Jaws activation code I have not used Window Eyes at all. For me NVDA is easier to learn than Jaws. So my overall plan is to use NVDA as my primary screen reader and Jaws as my backup if things come up that NVDA has problems with. May Window Eyes Rest in Peace. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Thunderbird Question
It seems that the read and unread notification doesn't work with WE or Jaws or Nvda. Usjually a message will have the indication of a attachment. To get to the attachments go to the menu under messages and arrow down to attachments. On 5/26/2017 8:38 AM, Pastor Gil Pries via Talk wrote: Hi, I have 2 Thunderbird questions. The first one is does Thunderbird indicate email unread, read, reply, and attachment? Second question is how do you get to attachments in Thunderbird? Thanks, Pastor Gil ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Jaws hot key undefined after update
I had changed the name of the desktop icon to just say Jaws so when I did the update a new desktop icon for jaws was created. The old renamed one was still there and still had the hot key in place. The new icon added by the update did not have a hot key assigned. So I would say that the update replaces the existing idesktop icon if it is still named the default title. On 5/26/2017 7:59 AM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote: Yes, I had to reset it. On 5/26/2017 4:44 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi, Has anyone had the experience that the hot key we had probably all set up in the Jaws desktop shortcut is removed after an update? This happened to mine after the recent update. It makes sense, of course, since I guess the icon got updated as well. I'm just wondering if this happened to anyone else. Thanks, Rod ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bricemijares%40att.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Jaws and desktop
Try using windows key M to get back to the desktop. On 5/26/2017 12:03 AM, Neville via Talk wrote: Hi, Just authorized the latest copy of Jaws and very much a learner. When exiting a programme, say Thundrbird, or exiting a drive for the Desktop, ,after pressing alt F4 Jaws goes quiet. The pressing of Windows d once or twice is required to place focus back on the Desktop. Is this annoying behaviour normal for Jaws or do I need to change some setting somewhere? If so, which setting and where? Thanks Neville. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key
If I change to the laptop keyboard I lose the ability to use my num pad for entering numbers. On 5/25/2017 8:30 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Nick, I'm not willing to go out on a limb and say the sticky insert key mode is better than using the laptop layout which makes the caps lock the jaws key. For me, right now, the sticky insert key seems the easiest way to leave everything alone, including the desktop layout, while getting used to using jaws. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: May 25, 2017 8:49 PM To: Rod Hutton via Talk Subject: Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key Thanks, do you think that will work more effectively than the Caps Lock Key? It's going to be a while before I migrate, so perhaps I should ask these questions should they become necessary. Based on the tutorials, I tend not to use most of the key strokes involving the insert key. On 5/25/2017 3:25 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: The sticky key function of the Insert key is a global setting, which can only be toggled on by first switching to global settings, namely, by pressing Control-Shift-D in the Settings Center. The actual name of the setting you're looking for is Insert key mode. Cheers, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of David Moore via Talk Sent: May 25, 2017 1:53 PM To: Nick Sarames ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key Hi, In JAWS settings, Insert+6 on the top numbers row, you can make the insert key a sticky key. I would search for insert key, and the setting that you can check will probably be there. You can do this with JAWS so the Insert is not a sticky key on your computer for all programs like it would be if you went to ease of access and did it there. I love that, because I can press Insert key, let up off of that, and press other keys, and it works just like I held it down. I hope you find that setting in the settings center of JAWS! Have a great one! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:34 PM To: Raul A. Gallegos via Talk Subject: Re: Raul, Carol is happily using the Caps-Lock key Someone mentioned treating the insert key as a "sticky Key." I understand the concept of sticky keys (I use them all the time) but how do I employ that in the context of the insert key, unless you mean simply using the caps lock? On 5/25/2017 12:56 PM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote: Hi, I'm glad you are liking the caps lock usage. To toggle its state, all you need to do is press it twice quickly. I hope that helps. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/24/2017 2:26 PM, Carol and Roger wrote: Hi Raul, I am getting along fairly well with the cap-lock key as my default Jaws key now. I do have one question Is it possible to turn on caps-lock? Before, it always said Caps-Lock on or off. Now, it says nothing when I press it and my letters do not speak with a higher pitch. Fortunately, I don't type a lot that requires all caps, but I am not sure why it is no longer working. This is really strange! I went out of my email and when I alt-tabbed, or at least that was what I meant to do, I hit the alt-Caps-Lock combo accidently instead. Guess what! Alt-Caps-Lock sets and says the state of the Caps-Lock. Go figure! So, is it supposed to be alt-Caps-Lock, or is it supposed to be the Caps-Lock? Pressing the Caps-Lock key now works just like the insert key used to. I believe someone indicated there were times I should press it twice, but I don't remember why. I just hope the setting stays whenever it is necessary to restart Jaws, since I don't know how it got this way. I like it like this. Take care, Carol On 5/23/2017 8:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Hi, if using the laptop layout, you can activate the Jaws window by pressing Control Shift Caps lock J. So, basically, it's the 3 keys along the left side of the keyboard with the letter J. It really works. Personally I run Jaws in the notification area so it's out of the alt-tab order. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/23/2017 10:26 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote: I would like to suggest, based on my own experience, if switching a desktop keyboard setting to l
Re: End of Life Message
How are people getting this end of life message to come up? On 5/25/2017 4:10 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: You would be smart to learn Jaws or brush up on it so when you need it isn't as frustrating just my opinion. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:03 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: End of Life Message Hi. remember, no one is saying you have to stop using Window-eyes. If it works, keep right on using it as long as you can! I also have JAWS once again on this machine but very rarely do I ever use it. it's there if I ever need it. Window-eyes is going to be my primary screenreader until it doesn't work anymore. On 5/25/2017 11:48 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote: Hello List, I turn Window-eyes on manually. Yesterday after my computer almost died due to multiple and random power surges, I got the Window-eyes End of Life Notification. Really depressing. I wish they had just said window-eyes Discontinuation Notice - it would have been less ominous. Fortunately, my husband revived my Window7 machine and Window-eyes still works. I need to use Jaws more often so I can learn it, but I just can't bring myself to do so when Window-Eyes works with programs like Vipre and Jaws doesn't. Also, Window-Eyes has a setting which makes it work in safe mode and Jaws doesn't. Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40v erizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Jaws and copy text question
The F8 key for starting to select what you want to copy is a Window Eyes command and not a Jaws command. On 5/25/2017 1:24 PM, Tony C via Talk wrote: Hi, Using Windows 10 and Jaws. I was trying to use the F8 key to select text and copy it from a post on Facebook. I did it as usual but it didn’t paste when I tried to paste it. I tried two different times. Do you have to select text using the copy and paste function and the ctrl, shift arrow to select? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Jaws versus WE
Two issues I have with JAWS after making the switch is that Jaws does not announce the index in file explorer or in Thunderbird. Also the copy and paste when using them within a web page work very poorly. You can get the indication that something is selected and hit control c to copy it and when you paste it with control V, it is not what you expected. For example I tried to copy a amount like 51.52 and when I pasted it it was 2.00. Never seen such errors when copy and paste with WE or NVDA. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Installing JAWS
I got the PO just as you have and it does not contain the activation code. I called VFO and was told the code isn't sent until the PO generates a invoice. They checked if the invoice had been created and when it was they sent me a Email with my serial number and activation code. So my recommendation is to call 1 800 444 4443 and hit the 6 key option. On 5/23/2017 10:35 AM, Dave Basden via Talk wrote: I filled out the form online to get JAWS authorization, was phoned to ask whether I wanted the home or office edition, and received an zero-charge invoice for JAWS and my one SMA from Window-Eyes. Now I have downloaded JAWS and am trying to install it. I am not sure what I am supposed to enter as the authorization number though. I don't see anything that looks right in the purchase order I received via email. Was I supposed to get a separte authorization number? Confused! Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
JAWS
at least for me Jaws is proving to be more stable than Window Eyes on my Windows 10 laptop. No loss of speech that often happened in IE 11 and Thunderbird is having no problems. Must say however I think that WE has a much better User interface. After the learning curve I think JAWS will be a good replacement for WE. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: switch to Jaws
I am currently using MS Office 2003 however Microsoft no longer supports or updates this product so I am wondering if it is secure. On 5/20/2017 6:19 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: Nothing wrong with MS Word 2003. It is my Favorite edition of MS Word, if I had to pick one. Grumpy Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
scam call
Now this is a new one. I have gotten many calls in the past telling me that it was microsoft calling and that I had a virus. Of course Microsoft isn't going to call you to tell you you have a virus. Now today I got a call stating that it is a emergcy and that my Microsoft lincese has expired and I should call a number to fix the problem. The real shame is that someone just might believe this stuff and get screwed. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead!
You don't need a Window Eyes SMA in place to get the free copy of Jaws. You just need to have aup to date paid copy of WE. On 5/18/2017 7:51 PM, kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk wrote: Ok peeter but at the time nothing was said at the time until now. Be thankfull that a offer was offered for window-eyes users to convert to jaws for free, but that is only if you had a sma in place for window-eyes. Come to think of it jaws has been the most popular screen reader. Now rant is over. Kenny Peyatt jr. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+p.wildcat1234=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:09 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: I told you, Window-Eyes is Dead! Well, now all of you officially know that Window-Eyes is really dead! But, why couldn't most of you (mostly well-educated and intelligent) folks figure that out for yourselves? That is by no means a silly question. Analysis of news stories, by independent researchers, over the past 6 months reveal that smart people as well as stupid people embrace "fake news" with equal relish. Why is that? Also, lots of folks still believe that President Trump is "doing a good job" in spite of the fact that nothing has been really accomplished so far and that Trump apparently has no clue about the facts at hand. It is an intriguing question, pondered by sociologists, why approximately half of the population, in any given community at any given time, will believe "crazy stuff" if asserted by a "figure of authority". Peter Duran ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/p.wildcat1234% 40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: contacting VFO?
I was told yesterday that I would get my key today. NOPE!! Want to get the ball rolling on learning JAWS but as I said before the 40 minute thing really sucks. On 5/18/2017 7:40 PM, Jim via Talk wrote: Hi There FOLKS! Got it and got it installed! Thanks for all your help! de . On 18-May-17 17:09, Tony C via Talk wrote: That is the number. lol -Original Message- From: Matthew Chao via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:53 PM To: Jim via Talk Subject: Re: contacting VFO? I think the number is: 800 444-4443.--Matthew Chao On 5/18/2017 1:42 PM, Jim via Talk wrote: Hi there FOLKS! Talked to a lady at VFO several days ago and she was going to send me a download link for JAWS. She took my information and I have yet to here anything at all..? Maybe I just haven't waited long enough, or should I try to call them again? If the latter, I need their number again since I cannot seem to locate it in my e-mail or on my phone. If easier one can send it to my personal eMail, wohlg...@gmail.com. THANKS Much! de . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mattchao%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tch828%40mediacombb.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: W-e to Jaws tutorials annoying numbers
The numbers being read is if you use the Groove music ap instead of the windows media player. I think it is reading the remaining time of the file being played. On 5/18/2017 9:13 AM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: You wouldn’t hear anything strange on your stream. This had more to do with which player was used to play the files in Windows. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:24 AM To: bjn...@windstream.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: W-e to Jaws tutorials annoying numbers Interesting, I listened to those tutorials on my victor reader stream and didn't hear any string of numbers. -Original Message- From: Brenda via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:11 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: W-e to Jaws tutorials annoying numbers Hello list and Raul, I'm loving the tutorials, but when I listen to them I keep hearing a bunch of numbers - I think it is telling me how far along in the mp3 I am. I either have to keep hitting cntrl every few seconds or change focus to the desktop. Any setting I can change so I don't keep hearing this annoying string of numbers while listening? It isn't a terribly big deal now, but it may be as I expand my horizons to listen to other things on the internet. thanks for any help. Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joseph.norton%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration
It is true that WE may work just fine for a good long while. However if you have a up to date copy of WE Why wouldn't you take the offer for a free copy of JAWS? On 5/17/2017 6:04 PM, Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk wrote: At 04:58 PM 5/17/2017, Tony C via Talk wrote: >Hi, I haven't used Jaws since 2004 and have forgotten a lot. But, I find that a lot is coming back and the transition isn't as bad as I thought it would be. lol. Here's a perfect example. Why did you transition now? Was there an application that did not work with Window-eyes that required another screen reading option? FAct is, no one actually has any need to migrate in order to be productive. The only need for migration is in a case where Window-eyes is not meeting your needs, in which case, you would have switched screen readers anyway. Orlando Enrique Fiol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
converting to jaws
So filled out the form to get JAWS two days ago, Got a Email showing a Purchase order for JAWS and a SMA for a cost of Zero dollars and am told I should finally get my activation key tomorrow. The zero cost for my SMA was because I had two SMA's left over for WE. Again wish WE was still toing to be a on going product but I don't think I could ask for a better deal in getting JAWS for free. Of course VFO will still get plenty os dollars for all of us buying SMA's in the future. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: TB settings - was Re: Jaws and Thunderbird threaded messages
Where in settings do you change this message threading? On 5/17/2017 9:57 AM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote: Hi, I usually turn off html composing, set messages to open in a new tab, and disable the start screen from Thunderbird. Beyond that, most other settings should be fine and totally user preference. Oh, and of course with the recent versions of software, turning message threads. One last thing, you might want to turn off the preview pane, toggled with F8 or from the View/Layout menu. Good luck. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” - David Thornburg On 5/17/2017 9:40 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote: Thank you Raul for that info. Are there any TB settings that will make Jaws and TB use as optimal as possible? thanks, brenda On 5/17/2017 8:53 AM, Raul A. Gallegos via Talk wrote: Hello, the part about jaws not reading message headers in Thunderbird if you are not in threaded view seems to be something recent. I don't know if it is a jaws bug or if it is something which recently changed in Thunderbird 52. So for now changing it to thread view is the only way I have found. I understand you don't like to read messages in a thread. I don't either for all mailboxes so I understand the frustration. In the meantime however, if you are in a message list and you set it for threads, press the star key, which is shift number eight and it will expand all the threads allowing you to see each message individually. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Mobile: 832.554.7285 Work: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com “Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be.” – David Thornburg On May 16, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Brenda via Talk wrote: Hello List, I'm trying to transition to Jaws starting with emailing which I am getting a lot of experience on lately. I find with Jaws I have to view messages as threaded which I don't like. Is there a way to read messages as unthreaded. Jaws doesn't seem to read the titles unless threaded. Hoping there is a setting to be changed. I like the way Window-eyes works with Thunderbird much better, hoping this issue in jaws will be fixed. Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/raul%40raulgallegos.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bjnite%40windstream.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/raul%40raulgallegos.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE and firefox 64 bit
I installed firefox 64 bit on my Win 10 64 bit machine and find that when using it WE has no browse mode. Does this mean that WE is already becoming obsolete in keeping up with change? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
JAWS key
Has anyone got their JAWS license key via using the web form yet? This 40 minute demo mode for JAWS sucks to say the least. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
installing jaws
I had a trial copy of JAWS installed several months ago. I downloaded the latest copy of JAWS and when I try to install it I only get a dialog box that says get aps from ap store and go to settings. I would say it thinks I already have jaws installed. Is there a JAWS removal tool or a way to fix this problem? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
JAWS migration
I have to think that Doug had a lot to do with WE users getting a free migration to JAWS. I want to thank him for that even though I would have much rather had WE continue to be the best screen reader around. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE voices
If we have purchased the vocalizer and vocalizer express voices for WE Will we receive the same voices for JAWS for free? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration
On the JAWS download link provided I don't see a home and pro version. How do you get the home edition? On 5/15/2017 11:50 AM, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote: Mark, Window-Eyes will continue to run as normal so the everlock version won't have an issue. However, I suspect after the first of the year you will not be able to return a license or authorize a new machine. If this becomes a problem, just let me know. As for getting JAWS, just go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/JAWS Download the version you want and activate it with your new license code. Regards, Doug -Original Message- From: Mark Cussons [mailto:lo...@mweb.co.za] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:33 PM To: Doug Geoffray ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration HI Doug, How will this affect those of us with everlock versions of window eyes? So how do you download jaws? Just download it and put in the new authorisation code? Regards Mark Mark Cussons email: lo...@mweb.co.za -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+lomo1=mweb.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk Sent: 15 May 2017 04:50 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Don, It is mainly a licensing difference. The home version cannot be used in a work environment. Functionality wise, they are identical. The cost of SMAs and upgrades does cost more for the Pro version. Doug -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgeoffray=vfogroup@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Don H via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:38 AM To: Aaron Smith via Talk Subject: Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration Aaron, Glad to see you are still around. What is the difference between JAWS Pro and Home versions? On 5/15/2017 9:14 AM, Aaron Smith via Talk wrote: Thank you for being a valued member of the GW Micro and Window-Eyes family. We regret to announce that sales of Window-Eyes have ended in the United States and Canada. Users outside of the United States and Canada should contact their local distributor for options. We are committed to our customers and will honor existing product purchases and software maintenance agreements, and we will continue to provide technical support to end users that have purchased Window-Eyes or a support package. All users who are currently using Window-Eyes can continue to use the software indefinitely; however, as the WindowsR operating system and/or applications change over time, Window-Eyes may not function adequately for your needs. We understand how important a screen reader is to you and are offering JAWSR for Windows 18 as a replacement. We are committed to providing a smooth transition and will honor existing Window-Eyes product purchases and software maintenance agreements (SMA), as follows. . End users that paid for and are current with Window-Eyes 9.x will be converted to JAWS 18 at no charge. . If you are using an earlier version of Window-Eyes, you can purchase an upgrade to JAWS 18. . If you are using the free version of Window-Eyes you can continue to use it. While there is not an upgrade path from the free version, if you are interested in purchasing JAWS, please contact our sales team at 800-444-4443. . Existing Window-Eyes SMAs will be rolled into the JAWS SMA program for end users that migrate to JAWS. Learn more about the migration options and pricing by visiting http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate. To make this process as easy as possible, we ask you to complete a simple web form that will go directly to our sales team, who will then contact you with an authorization code for JAWS 18, or request additional information if necessary. Requests for upgrades must be submitted at http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrateform or by phone at 800-444-4443 by July 31, 2017. Note, the free Window-Eyes Offer for Users of Microsoft Office version is not part of the conversion program. If you have any questions please call us at 800-444-4443 or email us at mailto:ord...@vfogroup.com. Aaron Smith VFOT | Enterprise Compliance 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-803-8000 x 6208 F 727-803-8001 ajsm...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com The information contained in this communication is confidential, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of VFOT. Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return email, and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squar
Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration
Aaron, Glad to see you are still around. What is the difference between JAWS Pro and Home versions? On 5/15/2017 9:14 AM, Aaron Smith via Talk wrote: Thank you for being a valued member of the GW Micro and Window-Eyes family. We regret to announce that sales of Window-Eyes have ended in the United States and Canada. Users outside of the United States and Canada should contact their local distributor for options. We are committed to our customers and will honor existing product purchases and software maintenance agreements, and we will continue to provide technical support to end users that have purchased Window-Eyes or a support package. All users who are currently using Window-Eyes can continue to use the software indefinitely; however, as the Windows® operating system and/or applications change over time, Window-Eyes may not function adequately for your needs. We understand how important a screen reader is to you and are offering JAWS® for Windows 18 as a replacement. We are committed to providing a smooth transition and will honor existing Window-Eyes product purchases and software maintenance agreements (SMA), as follows. . End users that paid for and are current with Window-Eyes 9.x will be converted to JAWS 18 at no charge. . If you are using an earlier version of Window-Eyes, you can purchase an upgrade to JAWS 18. . If you are using the free version of Window-Eyes you can continue to use it. While there is not an upgrade path from the free version, if you are interested in purchasing JAWS, please contact our sales team at 800-444-4443. . Existing Window-Eyes SMAs will be rolled into the JAWS SMA program for end users that migrate to JAWS. Learn more about the migration options and pricing by visiting http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate. To make this process as easy as possible, we ask you to complete a simple web form that will go directly to our sales team, who will then contact you with an authorization code for JAWS 18, or request additional information if necessary. Requests for upgrades must be submitted at http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrateform or by phone at 800-444-4443 by July 31, 2017. Note, the free Window-Eyes Offer for Users of Microsoft Office version is not part of the conversion program. If you have any questions please call us at 800-444-4443 or email us at mailto:ord...@vfogroup.com. Aaron Smith VFOT | Enterprise Compliance 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-803-8000 x 6208 F 727-803-8001 ajsm...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com The information contained in this communication is confidential, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of VFOT. Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return email, and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: I have great news! Read carefully!
So the great news is that WE is more than likely going away and we can pay $955 for another screen reader. Yep that is great news ain't it. On 5/12/2017 5:51 AM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: Supernova used to be called Hal. It’s from Dolphin Systems, Inc. See below for direct trial links, but, here is Dolphin’s main Web site: https://yourdolphin.com Here are several links where you can download trials of their product. For the screen-reader stand-alone product trial download, go here: https://yourdolphin.com/product/try?id=3 For the full-blown SuperNova product trial that includes everything, magnifier and screen-reader, go here: https://yourdolphin.com/product/try?id=4 You get a 30-day trial of either product. There are even options which include free support, but, this is optional and you can download the trial(s) without even providing contact information if you don’t want to. The second download option on the page is for those who just want to get the trial without providing any other info. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jo Taliaferro via Talk Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 3:12 AM To: Raul A. Gallegos; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: I have great news! Read carefully! I'm sorry your feelings are so hurt, LOL but I never heard of supernova well not the one you mentioned thanks roll how about a link or instructions or… Are you drinking, at the lunch, obsolete.? Good to hear from you ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.
Wouldn't you think with all this WE is dead talk that someone from VFO would step in and say it ain't so? On 5/9/2017 8:28 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: Hmm, sounds like fake news Peter. I deal in accuracy, so if VFO discontinues WE as of July 1st 2017 (for example), then it is not dead until that date. I'm sorry if you don't care for reading the truth. On 5/9/2017 8:59 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote: Well, you are welcome to your personal delusions. Remember all the folks at GW Micro who did the development work are gone, so who will carry on? Peter Duran -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+peterduran2015=outlook@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 6:38 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead. If you're trying to get people to stop using Window-eyes, you're probably in for a pretty good fight there. and there has been no official announcement that Window-eyes is indeed dead. people will still use it no matter what you say. On 5/9/2017 5:32 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote: Well, Window-Eyes is unfortunately definitely dead. It is irrational to presuppose that VFO will support two competing screen readers, with one a lot cheeper than the other. Sad to say, JAWS won and WE lost the screen-reader wars. Those of us with technical skills ought to help NVDA to improve over time so we can keep up with Windows 10 advances. Peter Duran -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+peterduran2015=outlook@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 5:11 PM To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! Can one be created? Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Wednesday, 10 May 2017 1:37 a.m. To: Darrell Bowles; Peter Duran; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! I just wished NVDA had a Window Eyes keyboard layout? -Original Message- From: Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 11:00 AM To: Peter Duran ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! I didn't say that window-eyes would survive. And didn't I already say that JAWS, NVDA and narrator are left on the windows platform? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 1:58 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: No future; Window-Eyes is dead! It always amazes me when smart folks (like on this list) prefer a fanticy instead of reality. There is absolutely no reason for Window-Eyes to continue and compete with JFW. Why would they do that? There are 3 options to check out: Narrator on Windows 10, NVDA, and VoiceOver. So, get real and get to work. I suppose those of you who believe that Window-Eyes will stay around also believe that the health care bill that passed the House last week will cover everybody as promised by Trump instead of leaving 24 million folks without any health care. Peter Duran ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgbowles%40msn .com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vaughan.dodd00 1%40msd.govt.nz. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email and any attachments may contain information that is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or
Re: Future Of Window-Eyes
With JAWS wanting to rule the world I am sure they will stop the free Window Eyes as soon as they legally can. On 5/7/2017 3:13 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: Microsoft supports the free Window Eyes forOffice, so who knows how long this will last. - Original Message - From: Rod Hutton via Talk To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 3:57 PM Subject: RE: Future Of Window-Eyes Hi Dennis, Good question. It's funny how everyone knows what "support for Office" means, but perhaps someone would like to explain this. This just sounds like more bull. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 3:07 PM To: 'Michael Capelle' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Future Of Window-Eyes When will office support end? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 11:45 AM To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Darrell Bowles Subject: Re: Future Of Window-Eyes this is true, jfw is the primary screen reader. -Original Message- From: Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 8:34 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Darrell Bowles Subject: Re: Future Of Window-Eyes ...and the following tweet i just saw in my tl. Take it for what you want: @mikelauf1: @Robbie Sandberg : Window Eyes to be phased out when MS Office support ends, says Eric Damery at SightCity VFO booth https://www.swarmapp.com/c/8msayoEvRx8 https://twitter.com/mikelauf1/status/860573700210532354 that is all. "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On May 6, 2017 9:19 AM, "Darrell Bowles via Talk" < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: While the support is no means complete, NVDA had it long before the main companies did. Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2017, at 10:17 AM, Matthew Dyer via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > While jaws does not support edge as of yet, it is being worked on and infact there is an fs cast whare a recording was done at the CSUN confrence demoing edge support using an internmal build ofcorse so yes it is comming. > > > Mathew > > > > >> On 05/05/2017 08:03 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: >> When this merger happened, I made a statement that WE would be let go. Everyone kind of said that that would not happen. If this does happen, it will be an absolute shame, because I found out two things regarding developments in JAWS, and NVDA. NVDA has some support for Microsoft edge, and it also supports adobe connect, quite nicely. Furthermore, JAWS does not as of this time, support either of these programs. >> Thanks, >> Darrell >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk >> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 7:38 PM >> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com >> Subject: Re: Future Of Window-Eyes >> >> If this does come to fruition, the great thing is >> that people have choices and they're not tied to just one thing. >> >> They can a. switch to a different screenreader such as NVDA, and cut the costs of SMA's and other software agreements. >> >> >> b. They can switch to jaws, although I suspect for various and >> sundry reasons a lot of people don't want to do that, because they >> chose Window-eyes for a reason, but the choice is still there. >> >> >> C. they can switch to a low-cost sollution like System access, yes >> it is still under development under the sero name. It still gets >> updates and is maintained. >> >> >> D. >> >> The people who still want to, can always stick with Window-eyes. The >> only part >> >> of this choice that concerns me is that soon enough, it won't be >> able >> >> to keep up with many of the advances on the internet and >> newly-released software. If development ceases completely, they may >> as well just make it free, throw it out there and say ok, have at it. >> >> >> We will just have to see what happens until VFO is ready to make a >> statement. Until then it's buisness as usual. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 5/5/2017 6:27 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: >>> Please understand that what I am about to write here is not at all >>> an official statement or position from VFO regarding the future of Window-Eyes. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yesterday Friday May 4, I had an occasion to ca
Re: Need Help WE 9.5.4
All the old support for WE have moved on. VFO support staff do not monitor this list thus no answers to problems. On 5/6/2017 9:34 AM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote: Where is the WE experts on this list? Windows 9 WLM WE 9.5.4 Before I deleted WE and reinstalled 9.5.4, I did not have these problems. I deleted WE 9.5.4 completely and did a new install. 1. How do I get WE in the task bar? 2. How do I get WE to not echo each letter I type? I want WE to wait until I hit the space bar or punctuation and then announce the word. 3. When I open an email using WLM, I cannot read the text. When typing a new email, I cannot read back what I have written. Suggestions? Bob Ringwald piano, Solo, Duo, Trio, Quartet, Quintet Fulton Street Jazz Band (Dixieland/Swing) 916/ 806-9551 Amateur (ham) Radio Station K6YBV When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators. -P.J. O'Rourke ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Questions re WE
Window Eyes may end up in the same category as FS Open Book. It continues to work but hasn't had a major update for years. On 5/4/2017 10:00 AM, Karyn Campbell via Talk wrote: Jim, This is coming privately The fact that JAWS will be used to power the latest version of fusion lends some credance to the fact that WE will no longer be supported. I've seen program material for the ACB convention from VFO Group and there is no mention of WE at all in that program announcement. I can forward privately if you want it. There has been no talk about the future. This is why I can't push the SMA issue at work but will at least go up to the latest version. Hopefully we will know something this summer. Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Vipre Antivirus on boht machines. Join me in supporting the Illinois Council of the Blind through our GoFundMe page at www.gofundme.com/icb2015. . -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+karyn1421=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 12:43 PM To: CJ &AA MAY ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Questions re WE Hi there! I must have missed somethintg along the way, to my knowledge there has been "NO OFFICIAL WORD" speaking to the demise of Window-Eyes aside from a lot of speculation on this list. In the next month or so I will be purchasing a new LTO for Window-Eyes unless there is some sort of official word from the powers that be! I certainly don't believe speculation is any sort of official staement..? What am I missing here? Just curious? Thanks And Have A Good 1! de . On 03-May-17 12:07, CJ &AA MAY via Talk wrote: The future is very uncertain and it is difficult to encourage anyone to purchase Window-eyes at the moment, not knowing what the future holds. Alison ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gma il.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/karyn1421%40gm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Questions re WE
There was a beta team for WE a while back as for a short time I was a member. I would think it is long gone. On 5/4/2017 11:15 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote: One person in this thread asked where the beta team was - still waiting to hear any kind of reply. - don't think there is a beta team though. One idea about VFO staff not being able to anser - keep asking until you connect with the right person. Hopefully someone will have a conversation with VFO at the NFB or ACB conventions. One can only keeptrack of so many lists - so - is there talk of the future of Window-eyes on any other lists? It is really sad that we are being kept in the dark. I am learning other screen readers, but I still would like to know what is/is not going on. Brenda On 5/4/2017 9:26 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: IN many cases, when you ask someone in the know, you are told they can't say anything because of a non disclosure agreement. -Original Message- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:42 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Questions re WE Karyn, No one on this list is capable of speaking for VFO who now owns WE. We don't know for sure the status of WE in the plans by VFO. The best bet is for you to call them, get someone high up in the organization and try to get an answer to yur questions. Or even better: I find that I have good luck getting answers when I write directly to the CEO of a company. I always certify the letter. Certifying is like registering except they don't keep the letter in the safe over night, and of course it is less expensive. By certifying a letter, I find that it usually reaches the CEO, or at least reaches someone very close to him/her. -Bob Ringwald -Original Message- From: Karyn Campbell via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:00 AM To: Window-Eyes list Subject: Questions re WE Hello all, I am back after an extended absence from this list. Sorry to come back with a bang but I need some answers. At work I am trying to get my employer to upgrade me to the latest version. That's not really the issue right now. The SMA is the issue though and I need some answers before I press them for that one. What is the status of Window-Eyes? If it were to go away, what is the plan for those of us who use it? Is it even worth getting an SMA right now? Answers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com Using WE 9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Vipre Antivirus on boht machines. Join me in supporting the Illinois Council of the Blind through our GoFundMe page at www.gofundme.com/icb2015. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rs%40ringwald.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bjnite%40windstream.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and
Re: Questions re WE
So is there still a Window Eyes beta team? If so let us hear from its members. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Questions re WE
The future development of Window Eyes is dead. We were lucky that WE works with the Creator update of Win 10. What we haven't seen however is any improvement in WE to work with the Edge browser as well as any fixes for any bugs. NVDA is a good choice for replacing WE however I know not everyone can use it. The only way I will switch to Jaws is if they offer some great cheap offer for us payed users of WE. Haven't a clue what will happen with the two SMA's I have left for WE. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
weather forecast is back
Weather forecast is back on the link below http://braille.wunderground.com/ ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-Eyes on a Lenovo laptop
Go to the control panel then select file explorer options. On the view tab you can find a checkbox to select items with a check box. Uncheck that and you are fixed. and On 4/25/2017 2:36 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: Not sure about the radio button thing, but, ever since Windows 8, some installations would say this on the desktop.. It may even be a configurable option, I'm just not sure. On 4/25/17, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: I installed Window-Eyes on a Lenovo laptop. After doing so, on the desktop, Window-eyes says things like: Internet Explorer checkbox checked, Recycle Bin checkbox checked. Why is this? When I went to install a program, Window-Eyes would not speak the status of radio buttons. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/joseph.norton%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
blind handyman
There used to be a Blind handyman group on Yahoo but it appears to have been deleted. Is there any other such groups that one can join? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-Eyes suddenly invalid?
Weren't we spoiled by the past when GW staff monitored the list and answered such questions in short order. Now with the new owners no monitoring is done. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window-eyes and the windows 10 creator update:
No better no worse than the anniversary version. WE still has bugs that will probably never be fixed. On 4/14/2017 3:55 PM, kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk wrote: Hi how well does window-eyes work with windows 10 creator? Kenny Peyatt jr. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Windows key x
Noticed with the creator update that Programs and features is no longer listed in the menu opened by windows key x. It does however still show in the control panel. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Determining Whether Upgrade Occurred
The Creator update took about 90 minutes to install. On 4/11/2017 4:23 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Interestingly enough, I just ran updates, and ended up with, not the upgrade, but an update numbered Version 1607 (OS Build 14393.1066). What could be the reason for this? It took me about 20 minutes for the process to complete. On 4/11/2017 4:05 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: 1703 build15063 - Original Message - From: Matthew Chao via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 4:57 PM Subject: Determining Whether Upgrade Occurred Hi, Folks. What version of Windows 10 should I be looking for following the upgrade? Thanks.--Matthew Chao ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes and latest Thungerbird?
Latest Thunderbird seems to work fine with WE on a win 10 Creator computer On 4/11/2017 4:09 PM, Brenda via Talk wrote: Hi List, although I'm learning other screen readers, I mainly use W-E. On the blindtech list some folks have posted concerns about TB 52 and jaws not working together. They say NVDA works ok. Just wondering if any window-Eyes users have upgraded to Thunderbird 52 and how it is working for them? thanks, brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Windows 10 release
NVDA works pretty well with Edge. On 4/11/2017 9:29 AM, Loy via Talk wrote: Until then IE and Chrome still works good for me. Not perfect, but what is? - Original Message - From: Russ Kiehne via Talk To: Don H ; Matthew Chao via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Windows 10 release And I wonder if Window-Eyes users will ever be able to use the Edge Browser? -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 6:04 AM To: Matthew Chao via Talk Subject: Re: Windows 10 release It works the same on the new release as it did with the older version of Win 10. Same level of bugs that won't be fixed anytime soon if ever. On 4/11/2017 7:49 AM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote: > Question is: is there an update for Window-Eyes, or will our current > versions work with the new Windows 10 release?--Matthew Chao > > > > > On 4/11/2017 8:45 AM, Loy via Talk wrote: >> It is being rolled out starting today. However you can download it >> yourself if you wish from this link >> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 >>- Original Message - >>From: Kenneth Son via Talk >>To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 8:19 AM >>Subject: Windows 10 release >> >> >>Greetings to the list. >> >>Has this creators addition >> >> of win 10 been released? >> >>If so I want to call in and get a new coppy of the latest update of >>Window Eyes. >> >>Kenneth Son. >> >> >>___ >>Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >>For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. >>For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mattchao%40verizon.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi
Re: Windows 10 release
It works the same on the new release as it did with the older version of Win 10. Same level of bugs that won't be fixed anytime soon if ever. On 4/11/2017 7:49 AM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote: Question is: is there an update for Window-Eyes, or will our current versions work with the new Windows 10 release?--Matthew Chao On 4/11/2017 8:45 AM, Loy via Talk wrote: It is being rolled out starting today. However you can download it yourself if you wish from this link https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 - Original Message - From: Kenneth Son via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 8:19 AM Subject: Windows 10 release Greetings to the list. Has this creators addition of win 10 been released? If so I want to call in and get a new coppy of the latest update of Window Eyes. Kenneth Son. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mattchao%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
weather forecast
Have been using the following link for weather forecasts for a long time. As of late it only gives the current conditions and no forecast is shown. http://braille.wunderground.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
JAWS offer
So it appears that this fellow is offering illegal codes to activate JAWS. I recommend not taking him up on his offer. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Crossing over to the other side
Any thing that is even similar to the old GW is gone forever. On 4/8/2017 11:27 AM, Charles Adkins via Talk wrote: haven't gone over to the other side yet, waiting to see if any deals come up. Thought about downloading the demo and playing with it, but I'm not ready to give and yet smile I have heard no good comments at all about the jaws tech-support experience. I myself love the window eyes tech-support. that being said, I loved my next-door neighbors old Nash LOL Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2017, at 11:54 AM, Dave via Talk wrote: Sorry, but I too have a "Lack of Cash" issue, and what I have will not be enough to go out and buy the latest edition of JAWS. I'm going to need to wait for a Super Upgrade Deal coming from VFO to all Window Eyes users.Something like a "Blind Convention" pricing would be nice. Other than that, I too will be using Window Eyes for as long aspossible. I have been slowly learning NVDA, which just does not do everything I need, but it will have to do if Window Eyes is never updated to keep up with the Next Windows Versions. I figure I can keep using WE 9.5 for at least another two years, and maybe longer.So VFO has time to do what ever it will do, and NVDA seems to be adjusting and getting more powerful as time goes on. In two years, NVDA could be even better. I see no need to worry or panic at this time. Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cadkins6739%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Crossing over to the other side
I would not want to pay the going price for JAWS as I am sure a deal is in the works for all WE owners to get a deal on making the switch. On 4/7/2017 5:27 PM, Mike Rogers via Talk wrote: Hi. I have also switched to Jaws. It works really well with Google chrome, on the internet. But I switch back to W.E. and firefox, for the bard page, as I like it better. It's a process, as I've been using W.E. since 1998. Mike www.harmonicaworkshops.com On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 18:01:57 -0400 Brenda via Talk wrote: Hello List, It is with great sadness that today I installed Jaws. I have noticed a few things I like. I don't know the Jaws mouse cursor, but I was able to use it to read the AVG Zen screen and go to my messages within Zen and read them. Also, in Thunderbird, I was able to read more with the mouse with jaws. The onboard training is pretty nice too. I always hated trying to surf through the W-e manual. I'm still having issues changing settings like speech rate, etc. I am doing a lot of trial and error to get where I need to go. I will have to actually read/listen to some of the training stuff. Of course, Window-eyes Tech Support was the best. But as much as I love Window-Eyes and the former Tech Support, I have to look out for myself as all the GW Micro employees did. They all have other jobs and lives outside of GW/window-eyes. I had gone into vacation mode for the talk discussion list, but I was always subscribed to the GW News list and heard nothing until the manditory/necessary update was announced this January. When I came back to the discussion list it was you kind people who filled me in. I'll still use Window-eyes, but I will be ready to change as change is coming (like records to 8-track tapes, to cassettes, floppy disks, and on it goes.) Brenda Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/harpman9%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: fat fingers and touch screens!
Fat fingers isn't the issue for me to learn how to use a I Pad or Android device it is the fat between my ears not being too excited about learning a new way of doing things. On 4/7/2017 3:48 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: How would anybody do that and be able to tell where they are? It sounds even worse than trying to do it with your fingers! Pam. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:00 PM To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: fat fingers and touch screens! if you have fat fingers try useing a touch screen pen. you can get them on ebay or amazon for about $10 for a pack of 3. you use these in place of your fingers. -Original Message- From: Kevin Huber via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:23 AM To: Butch Bussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows screen readers Hi Butch: I was interested in what you had to say about IPads and IPhones and stuff like that. I have had an IPhone for just over two years and, like you, I used to be totally lost when it came to anything with a touch screen. In fact, I can find my way around my IPhone quite well, or, at least, well enough for my purposes. I must admit that I use Sery, the voice assistent and I use a bluetooth keyboard to get from one app to another, and when you open up an app. Most apps are menu driven, so I have gotten used to it. This is not to say that you should get an IPhone or anything, I agree with you that you shouldn't have todo what other blind people are doing,. I just wanted to let you know that it may be easier than you think to use an idevice. Kevin Huber ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing future ofwindow-eyes
Using the creator update WE still does not work with the Edge browser. NDVA on the other hand works fairly well. On 4/7/2017 9:30 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: The good news is, this latest update 9.5.4.0 is designed to work with the creators update. so you'll be covered if you update to that. I have never known AI Squared/GW Micro to put a software update out unless they really need to. I guess i'm a little more satisfied than some folks. On 4/7/2017 9:16 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: As you said, not much was said about Window-Eyes? Nothing said if there would be future development? -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 8:29 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing future ofwindow-eyes Thanks for this podcast. Not much was said about Window-Eyes, except that it would continue. I called VFO to ask if the current version of Window-Eyes would be ready for the coming Windows update, and was told that it worked. I also said that we were feeling a bit neglected, smile, with all the talk about JAWS, and that they needed to get information out to Window-Eyes users that would address product concerns and rumors. Window-Eyes is a great product and they need to hear from those who appreciate it. JMO. Rebecca -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:30 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing future of window-eyes In this podcast, the future of window-eyes is discussed http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/podcast/2017-03-31.mp3 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/drlineberger%4 0embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/russ94577%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE and Creator version of Win 10
I just installed the creator update to Windows 10. WE seems to work just as it did. Still works poorly with the Edge browser. NVDA however works pretty well with Edge under Creator version of Win 10. If as is currently being mentioned that there will be no more real development of WE I am assuming that Edge will not ever work well with WE. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
future of WE
OK so it seems that the news is that WE will continue to work with the next version of Windows 10. That is good news however nothing is being said about making any real updates to WE now or in the future. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Windows screen readers
Could the difference between accessibility on a I phone or I Pad and a Mac book be that the phones and I pads are running the mobile versions of a web site or ap and the Mac book isn't? I have been considering purchasing a I Pad but just don't know which one to buy and wether it is really a solution to avoid having to move to JAWS. I have been using NVDA and it works fairly well but too has its shortcomings on some web pages. On 4/4/2017 8:02 AM, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote: Tony, I share some of your frustrations. I had to use JAWS more during the past year to do certain things on my job, and I was surprised at all of what I feel are bugs in JAWS. It always seemed to me that many JAWS users felt that Window-Eyes had a monopoly on bugs. On my job, both JAWS and Window-Eyes worked on some older software that I used while NVDA did not work with it. While I like my iPhone, I have found myself frustrated there with bugs as well. The pace of change in technology, particularly web site development, is really putting a squeeze on our access on all platforms in my opinion. I know of people who have switched to the MAC and would never switch back, but I also know of a few who have switched back. Also, some of your examples are partly due to inconsistent or poor web browser support. People I have talked to who work on accessibility have told me that if a web page is at all complicated, it needs to be tested with all combinations of screen readers and web browsers to know if the page will work. There is often even browser-specific code in web sites even without accessibility. It is very possible, for example, that Netflix is running different code when you access the very same page with a MAC as you access with a Windows browser. This makes it very hard to determine where problems exist. I hope that your switch to Apple works well for you. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 3:46 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Windows screen readers Hello, Before I say anything, let me first say that I was a Jaws user for several years before switching to Window Eyes back in 2004, and I’ve been a faitful WE user ever since. Why is it that everytime someone can’t use a certain website or something like I tunes or Netflix the first thing is they need to fix their website. Why is it that II a person can go to Netflix on an IOS device and using Voice Over can use netflix with no problem. Now we are talking about a free built in screen reader as opposed to an $895 and $1195 third party screen readers? I can’t use Netflix on my PC because both Jaws and Window eyes people have told me it isn’t accessible. However I can go to Netflix using my I phone or my I Pad Mini and use netflix with the free screen reader? I mean I don’t get it, support at both Jaws and WE have said it isn’t accessible and they can’t make their screenreaders work with it, but IOS does??? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.jacobson%40visi.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: orbit20 display and future of window eyes
n announcement >> from someone >> > at VFO says there will be no more window eyes I will continue to >> think it's >> > a option. >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] >> > On Behalf Of Jim via Talk >> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:38 PM >> > To: Don H; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> > Subject: Re: orbit20 display and future of window eyes >> > >> > Hi there! >> > >> > Question, what is the source of your information about W.E. going >> away? >> > I have seen nothing official from anyone regarding this issue and >> until I >> > do, I will continue to believe that W.E. is ALIVE and KICKING! I >> am getting >> > rather tire of seeing this same old topic being brought up over >> and over. I >> > do not wish to start any sort of heated debate on this subject I >> just want >> > to see where all this so called information is actually coming >> from..? Have >> > A Great Day! de >> > >> > . >> > >> > >> > On 31-Mar-17 11:12, Don H via Talk wrote: >> >> If you think Window Eyes isn't going away I also have a nice >> bridge to >> >> sell you. It is called the Golden Gate and I will sell it real >> cheap. >> >> >> >> On 3/31/2017 12:59 AM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: >> >>> We don't know WE is going away. >> >>> >> >>> -Original Message- >> >>> From: Talk >> >>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] >> >>> On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk >> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:26 PM >> >>> To: Sky Mundell; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> >>> Subject: Re: orbit20 display and future of window eyes >> >>> >> >>> Hi Sky and List >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I think it is beyond the point of saving Window-Eyes. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I think what folks on this list need to do now is to contact VFO >> and >> >>> push for a reasonable price to transition from Window-Eyes to jaws. >> >>> The number of SMAs should be considered so perhaps those with SMAs >> >>> would be given jaws SMAs or the money paid toward their SMAs >> would be >> >>> put toward the cost of jaws. Everyone should be given the >> convention >> >>> price for jaws. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Just a thought, >> >>> >> >>> Brenda >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 3/30/2017 12:38 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: >> >>>> Hello Kevin and Vaughn. Here are my thoughts on this. Had the >> blind >> >>>> organisations had given Window-Eyes a chance, Window-Eyes would >> not >> >>>> have gotten extinct and this would not have happened. Below, I'm >> >>>> going to forward you guys some emails from a friend of mine who is >> >>>> on this list, and I support him 100 percent! >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Email 1: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi Sky, >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Sadly that has been the way it has been since the start. As you >> >>>> said, had the rnib, cnib, american league for th blind and so on >> >>>> favoured window-eyes or even given it a chance. It would not be >> >>>> almost extinct at this moment in time. It does make me angry. >> These >> >>>> people are somehow escaping accountability for their acdtions. The >> >>>> entire system has been geared towards Jaws continually. Every >> other >> >>>> screen reader has become second rate because of the power wielded >> >>>> withing the blind community. It's alright us saying this but >> >>>> actually proving it is another matter. If it could be proved and >>
Re: orbit20 display and future of window eyes
If you think Window Eyes isn't going away I also have a nice bridge to sell you. It is called the Golden Gate and I will sell it real cheap. On 3/31/2017 12:59 AM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: We don't know WE is going away. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:26 PM To: Sky Mundell; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: orbit20 display and future of window eyes Hi Sky and List I think it is beyond the point of saving Window-Eyes. I think what folks on this list need to do now is to contact VFO and push for a reasonable price to transition from Window-Eyes to jaws. The number of SMAs should be considered so perhaps those with SMAs would be given jaws SMAs or the money paid toward their SMAs would be put toward the cost of jaws. Everyone should be given the convention price for jaws. Just a thought, Brenda On 3/30/2017 12:38 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: Hello Kevin and Vaughn. Here are my thoughts on this. Had the blind organisations had given Window-Eyes a chance, Window-Eyes would not have gotten extinct and this would not have happened. Below, I'm going to forward you guys some emails from a friend of mine who is on this list, and I support him 100 percent! Email 1: Hi Sky, Sadly that has been the way it has been since the start. As you said, had the rnib, cnib, american league for th blind and so on favoured window-eyes or even given it a chance. It would not be almost extinct at this moment in time. It does make me angry. These people are somehow escaping accountability for their acdtions. The entire system has been geared towards Jaws continually. Every other screen reader has become second rate because of the power wielded withing the blind community. It's alright us saying this but actually proving it is another matter. If it could be proved and despite all the negativity, it could. Then what could happen? Telling the world about how a ruthless power hungry organisation set out to control the world of the blind with a screen reader? If people would back us up and not just say that is what happened without saying I can prove it. To be able to prove it would be the icing on the cake. It would show the rotten, evil people at jaws who abused their power and in a way forced vendors to favour jaws above other screen readers. If enough people were prepared to come out and back us up we would have enough to at least make those responcible for the blind to wake up and accept responcibility. I doubt that will ever happen as proving what we know to be true would be difficult. Not impossible. We do have what is called a Mergers and nonopoly commission but it too is being seen as a dog with no teeth. Although it blocked a merger a few days ago between the two major money markets, one in London and the other in @Germany from combining. They have some power but it is only token gesture. There is a proposed merger between Rupert Murdoch and Sky tv. He will be allowed to buy it despite criticism from other media cdompanies. He owns the majority of the world's media and his control is beyond anything that the world has seen before. There isn't much he doesn't own and his political power is immeanse. That is the exact same as jaws, the rnib, cnib and other organisations for the blind. If it could be possible for witnesses to come forward and confirm what we are saying. That would be at least a start. We could get up a petition expressing our opinion of the bullying from these so called institutions for the blind. bringing them to account. It may not do very much but at least it would rock the boat for a short time and always be part of the history of blind peoples lives in a corrupt and overbearing system. Email 2: From: bj colt [mailto:bjc...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 6:34 AM To: Sky Mundell Subject: Re: window eyes proposal Hi Sky, I listened to the podcast from scun. I am not only disgusted but really pissed off at VFO and with the presenters at the tech podcast. ~Why aren't they kicking up hell? Probably because they are jaws users. I got that impression just by their attitude. Zoom text and fusion was an AI squared and window-eyes conception. Not a VFO idea. I did say that's why they bought out ai squared and it seems I was right. They are going to unceremoniously dump window-eyes. No new updadtes, no upgrades, nothing, no development. The list really has to do something at this stage. We really have to get together and make sure VFO are aware of our feelings. Everyone who has paid for sma's are now entitled to a full refund, no questions asked. No development means no upgrades, no upgrades equals no need for sma's. No sma's means they are stealing our money under false pretences. This time things have gone too far. Something has to be done, whether it is a petition, legal action to force VFO to state thei
Re: orbit20 display and future of window eyes
I have said it before I don't know why Microsoft didn't just purchase Window Eyes and incorporate it into windows. GW had to have been in serious finical trouble for letting AISquared purchase them when in fact AIsquared must have been in trouble themselves for VFO having the ability to purchase them. I just have to think that Doug has to be feeling really bad for how Window Eyes is going from the best screen reader to the non existing one. On 3/30/2017 8:18 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: I'm usually able to grasp why Companies do what they do, but I've never understood, from a Fiscal point of view, why GW Micro chose to give a Free copy of Window Eyes to any Registered MS Office user. Perhaps they had a deal with Microsoft to receive a "Royalty" of some kind for every person who took them up on the offer? If this were true, GW Micro must have been suffering some rough financial times, because for every person taking advantage of the offer, would drain the number of possible full paying customers.Maybe they were taking a Gamble and thought because Window Eyes would be Free for MS Office owners, just maybe some Government agencies would start steering clients towards Window Eyes, instead of paying $1100 for JAWS? I don't know. Never been able to make sense of it. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: hp stream with 4gb ram
My experience is if you buy a cheaper model of a laptop the keyboards are cheap and fail more quickly and the sound is poor as well. If that is all you can afford then that is what you can buy, but if a few more dollars can be spent buy the higher level models. On 3/20/2017 11:19 AM, Joshua Kennedy via Talk wrote: yes its too bad windows10 doesn't let you use an sd card as the default write disk. if it did, then storeage would not be an issue at all. I guess the hp f222wm touch screen laptop with quad core processor would be a better option for me then. On 3/20/2017 11:05 AM, Matthew Dyer wrote: Josh, I have an HP Stream and its not worth it as most of the blote ware takes up most of the drive. I have one. It was a pin to get one from win 8.1 to win 10. I would try to get something with more storage. If you are doing things like email, web browsing or word prossing you should be fine, but you will need more drive space for storage. HTH. Matthew On 03/19/2017 06:14 PM, Joshua Kennedy via Talk wrote: hey I was thinking of next month just getting an hp stream the newest one with 4gb ram and 32gb emmc storeage and adding a micro sd for more storeage then doing some stuff in disk management to make a folder on my c: drive point to the micro sd card to store apps and such onto the sd card rather than the internal storeage. and i wrote on the microsoft feedback hub a suggestion to let us set an sd card as default write disk so that c:\users\username\ c:\program files\ c:\program files(x86)\ and c:\program data\ and all their subfolders will be stored on an sd card either during first windows install or after install. so i hope an update comes out with such capability soon. do you think the latest hp stream11 with 4gb ram will be fast enough for some simple audio games and word processing web browsing and video watching? maybe the occasional audio editing with gold wave? here is the link to this laptop. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01JLCKP48/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1489961554&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=hp+stream&dpPl=1&dpID=51doEdWFgRL&ref=plSrch Josh Kennedy ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ilovecountrymusic483%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
narrator
So a question for those on the fast ring of the windows insider program is Narrator getting any much needed improvements? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: A time to have another look at Google Chrome
Is there a way to easily get to the bookmarks with chrome? The only way I know how to do it is hit the alt key then arrow down to bookmarks which is not as easy as pulling up the favorites in IE. On 3/12/2017 8:10 AM, Mike Rogers via Talk wrote: t's very interesting. Guess I'll check out Chrome I also started using an android and like Talk Back. I did download a talking caller I.d. and it caused many problems with Talk back, so I recommend staying from some talking downloads. Problems went away, when uninstalled. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 22:45:23 -0500 Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: Hi Vaughan, Several months ago, I had become so discussed with IE 11 and WE that I also gave Chrome a look. IE 11 just kept crashing with WE and on many sites it just didn't read info in fields that needed input. So, Because I was also on the market for a new phone and was giving Android phones real consideration, I tried Chrome on my toshiba Laptop. Well, after just a couple of hours, I got the hang of it and quickly realized that mahy of the IE keyboard shortcuts were the same, and so I felt quite comfortable in a short time. I have not gone back to IE. I should also tell you that I have used the Chase bank site to pay credit cards and Chrome did very well. HOwever, for some unknown reason, Chase feels as though they must continue to change there webbsite and in doing so, they have it a bit more difficult to use. But, I did manage to get the job done. By the way, I have procured a new Android phone and within just a few hours I was very comfortable with the Talkb a ck screenreader that comes with Android which supports a full touch interface. I have had it only a couple of weeks but I think I have nastered much of it. So, I suggest you stick with Chrome because it is much more stable with WE than is IE 11. On 3/11/2017 5:48 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote: Hi all. The current discussion regarding instability between Window-Eyes and Internet Explorer prompted me to take another look at Google's Chrome browser. The last time I did this was at least six months ago, and I was not then prepared to become a convert. Now: i'm having strong new impressions which encourage me to stay with Chrome for more than half an hour. I've not yet taken it to a truly challenging site - looking at the Mosen Consulting site at present. I plan shortly to do some banking, newspaper reading and possibly other stuff. Worth a look if people have not yet done so. Vaughan. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bernie.perella%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/harpman9%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE and IE 11
Running WE on a win 10 system. Seems as of late WE crashes more often than it did in the recent past. Many times if you us the WE search function on a IE web page WE either goes silent for up to a minute or crashes altogether. Anyone else experiencing a increase in crashes while using IE 11?e ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: ZoomText Fusion
I would assume that the only GW person still at VFO is doug and I am sure he is working under a gag order. On 3/8/2017 3:53 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote: Couldn't agree more. And to no longer beat about the bush - a lot of people have been lied to by VFO and AI Squared. The cloak of secrecy is amazing. Pretty watertight it seems. Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Clark via Talk Sent: Thursday, 9 March 2017 10:47 a.m. To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: ZoomText Fusion You can probably assume that Window-eyes will be out of development completely - If it hasn't been already. This includes the stand-alone product, including the free version you get if you own a copy of MS Office. Let's face it, for software to keep up with the latest security, correcting bugs and working with new technology it has to be continuously supported and worked on. Otherwise I know I wouldn't trust it. Whatever the case I hope some one from AI Squared would give us some official announcement. So frustrating! On 3/8/2017 9:48 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: I take it, this means all current users of Zoomtext Fusion using Window-Eyes are out of luck for any future updates? -Original Message- From: Loy via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 5:38 PM To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: ZoomText Fusion Doug from AISquared told me a while back that the next version of Fusion would be powered by JAWS. - Original Message - From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk To: 'Singing Sparrow' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:14 PM Subject: RE: ZoomText Fusion Whilst I can't add to this specific topic directly, apart from agreeing with comments made so far - I do note the absence to date of news regarding Window-Eyes developments. Fusion was promoted at last year's CSUN by Ai Squared. I do need to check for new blogs and podcasts, but surely something from AI Squared? Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com ] On Behalf Of Singing Sparrow via Talk Sent: Wednesday, 8 March 2017 2:11 p.m. To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Russ Kiehne Subject: Re: ZoomText Fusion I would like to know this as well; Since window eyes was the one that ordginally was used for the fusion? On 3/7/2017 8:54 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: > I refuse to upgrade my zt fusion. They taking away neospeech kate. i'm > trying not to go on swear word filled rant. Making backup copies for sure. > > > "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised > night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho > > Reeva > > On Mar 7, 2017 8:14 AM, "Russ Kiehne via Talk" > wrote: > >> I see that a new version of ZoomText Fusion will be released next month. >> this version which combines ZoomText and JAWS for Windows. How will this >> effect people using ZoomText Fusion using Window-Eyes? >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/ >> options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/ >> listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/ >> private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/sunshine%40abe.midco.net. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vaughan.dodd001%40msd.govt.nz. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email and any attachments may contain information that is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this email and attachments is prohibited. If you have received this email i
Printers and devices
Running latest WE on a Win 10 system. If I go to the control panel and then select printers and devices WE does a poor job of accessing the printers and other devices listed. Is there something I am missing regarding how to read the info shown in printers and devices? Is there another way to access this same info besides using the printers and devices accessed through the control panel? Thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: annoying as all hell
It happens with Thunderbird. Reported to GW a long time ago and they pretty much said it was a problem I was only having. On 2/25/2017 10:47 AM, Chris G via Talk wrote: What email client? Chris Grabowski Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. http://www.MysticAccess.com Check out our eclectic and comprehensive assistive technology podcasts at: http://www.MysticAccessPodcast.com Join our free announce-only mailing list to receive product news, podcast updates and exclusive coupon codes. Please send a blank email to: manews-subscribe@mysticaccess.email Contact: Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500) Twitter: MysticAccess Facebook: mysticaccessempower Original Message From: brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Saturday, Feb 25, 2017 11:40 AM EST To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: annoying as all hell When I open an email wineyes repetes the subject line minum of 3 times. Has anyone found a solution for this annoying problem? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jedikent%40mysticaccess.email. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window Eyes and the List are Dead?
I think the one thing effecting the users list is that no support staff are monitoring the list. One there is no one left to do the monitoring, and my experience with VFO is that they don't think it is important to monitor any of their user groups. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
PDF issues
I find a lot of pdf documents that will open in adobe reader that WE will only say top and bottom and not read what is displayed on the screen. The only remedy I have found so far is to use NVDA instead of WE to read these files. Is theere a way to get WE to read them? Running latest WE ona Win 10 system. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
latest Win 10 insider build
Is anyone running WE with the latest Windows Insider program build? If so any issues relative to WE working with it? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE serial number?
open the WE user interface with control backslash then go to the help tab and down to about. The serial is there and can be copied and pasted if desired. On 2/7/2017 11:21 PM, Diana Kube via Talk wrote: Hi, I need my WE serial number and am unable to put my hands on the CD cover. Does anyone know a way to retrieve it electronically? I seem to recall having done this previously but can't remember how I did it. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/kube%40netspac e.net.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
making the change
So for someone who uses their computer for Email and web surfing how hard is to make the change to a Mac laptop? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Circling and Circling Round and Round
Such a good subject line as the Shark is circling and circling around Window Eyes as we speak. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: stop window eyes from talking when I am in open book help menu
Do you have the open book set file installed? I do and WE stops talking when I start Open Book. On 1/28/2017 11:34 AM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote: Dear List: What are the exact steps to establish the set file to stop window eyes from talking when I am in the help menu of open book? My procedure from several years ago doesn't quite do it now. Thanks. Regards: Ted Larson ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Returning to list - what's going on with GW and AISquared
With all the old GW people now gone, maybe WE will continue as a product for some time but will it actually be improved upon or just patched to keep it running. An example as how VFO works is that another product Open Book is being sold and it does work but it very seldom gets any meaningful updates to improve it. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Installing WE after Jan26
So I guess the question remains that after Jan 26 can you install WE 9.5.3 on a win 10 system then update to 9.5.4 or you have to have a full copy of WE 9.5.4 to do a new install? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Chris Grabowski
So Chris is gone along with all the others who used to monitor the list. So I think we are down to Doug and I would not expect him to take up all the slack for all the others who have left. I also am on the Open Book users list and it is a known fact that no monitoring of the list is done by FS. On 1/19/2017 1:14 PM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: Are there any staff monitoring the list from ai2/vfo now? "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho Reeva On Jan 19, 2017 12:56 PM, "Chris G via Talk" wrote: Hi Don, My last day with ai squared was December 30. It was my choice as I didn't have time to build Mystic Access, creating tutorials etc It was also my choice to leave quietly I really didn't want to make a big announcement. That is just me, I fade away into the sunset. (smile) Chris Grabowski Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. http://www.MysticAccess.com Check out our eclectic and comprehensive assistive technology podcasts at: http://www.MysticAccessPodcast.com Join our free announce-only mailing list to receive product news, podcast updates and exclusive coupon codes. Please send a blank email to: manews-subscribe@mysticaccess.email Contact: Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500) Twitter: MysticAccess Facebook: mysticaccessempower -------- Original Message From: Don H via Talk Sent: Thursday, Jan 19, 2017 9:27 AM EST To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Chris Grabowski Has Chris Grabowski also left the Window Eyes team? A Emaiil directly to him gets no response and have not seen any postings from him for a while. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.co m/jedikent%40mysticaccess.email. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/o ptions.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/l istinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/p rivate.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Chris Grabowski
Has Chris Grabowski also left the Window Eyes team? A Emaiil directly to him gets no response and have not seen any postings from him for a while. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4
It is good that a update was done but if you look at the readme for what changes were made there were no real improvements or bug fixes. Normally in the past a update would include a long list of improvements and bug fixes. So this update was to keep it working, which is a good thing, but shows no effort taking place as in the past to keep improving on WE. On 1/18/2017 4:10 PM, CJ &AA MAY via Talk wrote: I find it rather reassuring that we are still getting updates. Alison ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Called JAWS the other day
As far as NVDA voices I am currently using the Access32 add on and NVDA sounds just like WE with the Decaccess32 voice for Window Eyes. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-Eyes is surely dead!
I recently Emailed Arron Smith and got no reply so I am unsure he is still there. On 1/9/2017 10:07 AM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote: Hello As I mentioned previously,when the folks who do the real work leave, not much can happen. I wonder how many of the GW team remains? Good luck to all of us, Peter Duran ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Window Eyes is
Window Eyes is on life support Window eyes has one foot on a banana peel and one in the grave Window Eyes is on a very slippery slope Window Eyes is in the hands of the enemy ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-Eyes is Dead!
I can say that NVDA does a better job on some things than WE. Fewer loss of speech on web pages and better reading of some sites. Having said that I would rather WE keep going and improving so we have a choice. On 12/17/2016 7:08 PM, Kim Lingo via Talk wrote: Are there already a lot of things that Window-Eyes doesn't work well with? Speaking of "the shark", I rather liked Freedom Science Fiction, or Bleed 'Em Scientific, or one I came up with "Free-dumb" Scientific. Kim Lingo -Original Message- From: Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:21 PM To: 'Bryan Peterson' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Window-Eyes is Dead! Your right about JAWS now that it is under VFO -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:15 PM To: Veronica Smith Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! Because the Shark is a piece of crap. I used it for ten or twelve years before I switched to WE and hated it. I will never go back. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 17, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Veronica Smith wrote: Why not use the shark? I've only ever used WE so don't know much about that fish. Tell me why or why not. V -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+madison_tewe=spinn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 3:19 AM To: Tom Kingston; Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! I for one have already been working on getting more familiar with NVDA, mostly because for the life of me I still cannot get my version of WE to read documents in Word 2010 despite trying the steps in the various related articles in the knowledge base and NVDA will read them. I do hope that WE will continue to be around but I'm preparing for the worst by trying to learn NVDA. I absolutely will not go back to using the Shark. -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 10:52 PM To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! Pam, User windows are a very powerful feature that are really more or less scripting in another form. Unfortunately everyone ignored them because they weren't called scripting. You can create standard windows relative to screen coordinates or floating windows that automatically adjust their coordinates based on several different things. You can make them speak with a hot key or make them speak automatically or make them silent. You can tie them to specific colors, have them watch for highlighting, or not, and on and on. Then there are hyperactive windows. These monitor the defined area in many different ways and can react in many different ways, e.g. say something, speak a window, execute a hot key, load a set file, and on and on. I remember how everyone was so excited when scripting was introduced. I only shook my head thinking we had a lot of that power from the beginning through these windows. It was amazing how some jumped on scripting while prior to its introduction everyone seemed to scream and run every time I mentioned user windows. You won't even see them in the control panel unless "Show advanced options" is checked under the Help menu. Regards, Tom On 11/28/2016 8:51 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: Okay, at the risk of sounding stupid: what are these user windows you are talking about? pam. -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 6:10 PM To: wohlg...@gmail.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! I Miss a big big feature that is no longer in the version 9.X of Window eyes. I use those User Windows, in a couple of Set Files I've created for a couple of programs I use. Without those User Windows, Window Eyes 9.x does not give me the same abilities as Window Eyes 8.X This for the way I use Window Eyes is going backwards. This next one is a personal preference, but the way version 9.X Copies Text on the Internet is not to my liking.It is not Windows Standard. I find the New way to copy text a bit Funky, and I tend to get more text than I want. I dislike other minor issues in Version 9.X, and so it isn't a matter of going backwards, but more of a consistency issue. I suspect the problem I occasionally have is a Script problem, and not so much a Window Eyes problem. From time to time, I have major problems using Gold Wave 6 in Windows 10. I no longer have the ability to Read to End when reading Email in Becky. When in File Explorer, I cannot use the Send To feature because either the Script is not reading what Drives I have available, or Windows 10 is not displaying the Drives. From time to time, the drives are read by Window Eyes, but only one time. If I want to send another file, then the Drives no longer are shown, or read by Window Eyes 9.5.
Re: windows 10 mail app:
I have had the same issue only with Thunderbird. I have sent in numerous Error reports and was told by the AI Squared staff that the error messages were blank. Every time this happens the message did get sent. And as it has been many times before I was told I was the only user with the problem. On 12/7/2016 3:05 PM, kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk wrote: Hi I tried sending a message using the windows 10 mail app, and when I pressed alt+s to send the message, window-eyes crashed and I had to press control+alt+w to restart window-eyes. When window-eyes restarted, it brought up a error reporting dialog and I pressed enter on the send error report button, and it sent the error report. Has anybody on this list had this same experience with window-eyes? Kenny Peyatt jr. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Loss of speach
Running latest version of WE on a Win 10 64 bit system. When using IE as my web browser I am having a issue where WE stops speaking. Here are the steps that cause the issue. I go to any Web site. I want to search for a term on the web page so I hit ctrl shift f. I type in what I want to look for and hit enter. We goes silent. I then have to use control alt w to restart WE to get speech back. This happens on a regular basis but not all the time. Anyone else experiencing this? When WE stops speaking no WE error report is generated. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Open Office
Gw attempted quite a while ago to have WE work with Open Office. It never worked well enough to be useful. Now I find that NVDA works pretty darn good with Open office. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
still selling it
Whether this is long term good news or not I don't know but if you call AI squared they are still selling the full version of Window Eyes for $895. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE and Thunderbird
For those like me that get WE reading either the subject line or first line of a message twice, NVDA doesn't have that problem. For those like me that have a little sight and use YouTube I haven't found a way to get to the maximize screen button with WE but with NVDA you can. For those who don't like the voices with NVDA and use Access32 with WE there is a NVDA addon for access32 that works great. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Future of WE
I predict that WE development will indeed stop soon if it hasn't already. I also predict that we will be offered some kind of not so good deal to purchase JAWS. I also predict that if you have SMA's left they will apply only if you take the deal to purchase JAWS. Otherwise your SMA's will be worth absolutely nothing. I have two SMA's left and fully expect to get nothing for them. I only hope that when GW started this whole process that it was because they had a need and not that it was greed. Of course I respect the right of any business to go for the gold but thought that Doug and Dan of GW really wished to provide good service to their customers. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Future of WE
For those who are concerned about the future of Window Eyes I have finally started using NVDA. Keeping in mind my main computer usage involves Email and Web Surfing I find NVDA either equal or better than WE. So I highly recommend if you haven't done so install NVDA and begin learning its commands and usage. I think you will be impressed. There is a very helpful NVDA users list as well. Like many have already expressed the chances of me moving to JAWS is slim and none. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Steve Clower
Well I don't like change when it comes to my technology but knowing that WE has no long term future I have began the process of learning to use NVDA. I must say I am very impressed with NVDA and am finding in many cases that NVDA works better than WE. I do have two SMA's left and it will be interesting if they are honored in some way. I would think a cash refund would be in order but having delt with FS in the past know it won't be handled in a way that benefits the user. On 11/23/2016 10:46 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote: Well said, Grumpy Dave. I'm disappointed, but if a business can't make it, they do what they can. I unfortunately think I paid for an SMA and haven't used it up, so I'm hoping VFO will give me some sort of credit for that if I'm told to switch. I've never used JAWS and only played with NVDA a tad. I don't like transition, so I hope we can support each other as users for as long as possible. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:11 PM To: Don H; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Steve Clower I don't think GW Micro sold its Customer's out. Cash Flow has been a problem for a while, and GW Micro started to sell future Upgrades to make up for the low Cash Flow. JAWS does this, and I forget what they are called. SMA's? Anyway, when you sell future upgrades at a discount, chances are that money is going to pay today's Pay roll and Expenses, and when Tommorow comes, well when tomorrow comes, and cash is still short, you start making Crazy Deals with the Devil. Allowing a Free version to anyone owning a copy of MS Office was a questionable choice for GW Micro to do. Perhaps they received a token Royalty from Microsoft for every Free Copy Registered.Hard to know, since no one is telling why that deal with Microsoft was done, and what GW Micro hoped to gain from it.Money of course, but how? I enjoyed dealing with the original cast of Characters at GW Micro. Good Mid-west values and I think they gave award winning effort when producing their Screen Reader, and then supporting it after the sale. I doubt if GW Micro sold us out. But, when a Company doesn't have the cash to hire more talent to keep up with the latest Operating System, as well as everything else GW Micro was doing. Hard to really know what the Newest Parent Company intends. This is one of the problems when getting swallowed by a larger fish, which then gets swallowed by even a larger fish. Communication is bad enough even within a small Company like GW Micro, but add a couple of extra layers and it's a wonder that anything good gets out the door, or even done! Customers? What Customers? We have Customers? Grumpy Dave -- Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin_van_lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:dnereque...@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options,
Re: Steve Clower
Have been a WE user since version 1.1 if my memory serves me correctly. Seeing the writing on the wall I have began the process of learning NVDA and I am finding it very useable.I think that GW sold us out a long time ago and the only direction WE will now go is down. So sorry to think and say that as I have always felt that WE was the best scren reader out there. I guess nothing lasts forever in todays world. On 11/22/2016 4:46 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote: I have made that decision with respect to personal computing. Hauled out my MacBook purchased over a year ago last weekend. Got sighted assistance to crank into proper life. And made real progress with VoiceOver. A long way to go, but I plan to buy the book from Mosen Consulting on learning to use Pages. Already using Mail and plan to play with Safari very soon. Ok: Apple's customer service isn't great either, (apart from sales), but accessibility is better than the VFO and Microsoft combination, and for me it is a point of principle now. Maybe I'm unreasonable. When Humanware shifted out of New Zealand (where I live) I decided never to buy another Humanware product. And - I've stuck to that position for almost 10 years. I did understand Humanware's business decision, which of itself, made perfect sense. As things stand - I don't plan to buy another VFO product. My money is worth something, and given the abysmal customer relations we are seeing, VFO and I fundamentally disagree on how much my customer patronage should be valued. Although we on this list have these discussions based on an event such as the departure of respected virtual friend, staff turnover is natural and healthy. Staff turnover is not for me the central point. My concern is the arrogant disregard from Corporate VFO when loyal customers start by asking reasonable questions, based on reasonable concerns. We should probably conclude that the list is not being monitored by senior VFO Executives. I do not expect staff to try and defend the behaviours of the senior executive. I expect Vice Presidents and above to lead accountability to their customers. VFO is a multi-national, multi-million dollar corporate, receiving Government contracts in numerous countries. So: if people can make informed choices regarding alternatives to what they currently have, vote with feet, dollars, word of mouth advertising and everything else that is available. Vaughan. Vaughan. Please telephone the Regional Disability and Health Team prior to emailing or faxing any new referrals. Vaughan Dodd, Regional Disability Advisor. Desk2desk: 97187. Email: vaughan.dodd...@msd.govt.nz. For referrals: email fax_gnlis001_health_disabil...@msd.govt.nz. Our up-to-date desk file is located at: http://doogle.ssi.govt.nz/resources/publications/reports-research/regional/auckland/auckland-health-disability-resources.html -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2016 11:04 a.m. To: Tony Hernandez; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Steve Clower Tell you what - if we're forced to by Shark, I may just forget about Windows machines as much as I can. Being forced into a screenreader and culture I don't like is like having our new president-elect take officve. I like neither of them. Just my thoughts.--Matthew Chao On 11/22/2016 4:56 PM, Tony Hernandez via Talk wrote: I wrote an e-mail to i...@vfo-group.com asking about this. Perhaps if enough people did the same, they might feel it appropriate to give some kind of info about this. It's worth a shot. What's the worst they could do in response? On 11/22/2016 11:59 AM, Singing Sparrow via Talk wrote: You know I feel this as well; The thing is that Since Asquared bought out GWMicro the software has not gotten any better; the tech support has gotten lax in what they do; and lets face it the main contributers for the Window eyes screen reader have all but gone. So Yes I do agree the writing is on the wall for window eyes. On 11/22/2016 8:20 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: It's also news to me as well. With several employees leaving AI Squared, it looks like the writing is on the wall for Window Eyes! -Original Message- From: Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:54 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; kitty hevener Subject: Re: Steve Clower :( this is news to me. I must have missed the email announcing he was leaving. Need anymore proof we is going to be killed off yet? On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 11:08 AM kitty hevener via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: reg, a few weeks ago, he emailed us to say he was leaving. I forgot exactly what his last date was, but perhaps it has happened. -Original Message- From: Reg Webb via Talk Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:03 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Steve Clowe
Re: Steve Clower
Makes one wonder how Window Eyes can survive ling term with everyone leaving. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
weather or not app
This morning when trying to run the weather or not app I get the following error message. Anyone else getting the same message? weatherornot.js.wecrypt.wsf - Microsoft JScript compilation error Line 481 Column 3 Syntax error ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
