RE: Windows 10 build

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Hit the windows key and type "winver" without the quotes, then hit enter.  That 
will do it.

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Martha via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 7:57 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Cc: Martha 
Subject: Windows 10 build

Hi folks.

Slightly off-topic, but, can someone remind me how to find out what build is 
running on my Windows 10 PC?

Martha


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RE: MS Office question

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Olusegun,
I went on eBay last night and typed in "Office 2016 Professional", which is 
what I had done previously.  I did not see the exact same link that I had used 
to purchase mine, but did see several others.  I looked for one with a higher 
rating.   The seller name on my receipt is "sansell88", but entering that into 
the search bar yielded no results, so I'm not sure if I can find the link that 
way.  

As I noted earlier, I was a bit chicken about doing this; I don't want to think 
I've bought a pirate version.  I got a email from the seller with the product 
key.  At first the key did not work, but I had instructions on how to call in 
to authorize my copy.  I did have some gymnastics with JAWS and using JAWS 
history to access the product ID number that I needed to enter.  Then I got 
this really, really long ID code back from Microsoft.  After entering it, my 
copy of Office is up and running.  
 
Robin

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From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 2:28 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. 
Subject: RE: MS Office question

Yes, Robin, the BeMyEyes works everywhere where there's enough data to hit the 
Internet.  It's a great app, only works on a smart toy though.  Could you 
please possibly post the eBay link you used for grabbing a copy of Office?  
Thanks a ton if you can!

Yes, Rod, a call to Microsoft Accessibility should be free because of the 
800-number.  However, there are countries that DO NOT have TOLL-FREE numbers.  
In that wise, I'm not even sure if their calls would get through unless 
something else has changed.  I think there shouldn't be any problems with calls 
originating from the U.K., Australia the Caribbeans, and parts of Mexico.  
Sorry, I excluded Canada because the phone system there is pretty much the same 
with that of the United States. 

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

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RE: MS Office question

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Also, if you have a smart phone, you can download the Be My Eyes app and use 
that to get direct access to the Microsoft Accessibility line. I just used Be 
My Eyes for the first time a month ago, so I haven't used this to call 
Microsoft, but think this is a good way to go. Not sure of the restrictions, if 
any for those outside the U.S.  Anyone can use the app, but I'm not sure off 
hand if the Microsoft contact option works outside the U.S.  


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 5:58 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: MS Office question

Hi David,

I won't trumpet too loudly my firm belief that Office 365 is the best way to 
go, and this is because Microsoft is improving the accessibility of Office at 
the same time that they are adding features.
The price of an ongoing single-user subscription is $6.99 per month and you get 
two months for free if you subscribe annually.
As for contacting the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk, the only issue I can 
see is that you have to be able to deal with the long-distance cost involved in 
calling the U.S. telephone number, which is 800-936-5900.
You could do a Skype out call and contact them that way.
Now, once you reach the line and get a human being, I cannot think of any 
reason why they would hang up on you just because you are outside North America.
I live in Canada, and they have never had an issue with my calling them.

Good luck,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: June 30, 2019 4:34 PM
To: WE English Mailinglist 
Cc: David 
Subject: MS Office question

Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules?


I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few 
dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for 
unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles.


One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am 
neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will 
it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look 
out for?


They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for 
that version, or maybe they have already done so?


Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone happen 
to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws 
are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes functionality.


Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really don't 
want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know what you've 
got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft decides to change 
something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have to spend days in figuring 
your way around the new features.


Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And 
please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression the 
Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am mistaken, I'd 
be glad to know.


--
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RE: MS Office question

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

David,
I just bought a copy of Office 2016 Professional on eBay for   10 US dollars.  
I am sure I also saw copies of Office 2010.  The Home and Student one is 
technically for students, despite the name.  I'm not sure what the Home and 
Business one is.  When I was looking at buying the subscription or a license of 
Office 2019, it seemed that Home and Business was a more costly option.  As a 
home user, the version I kept getting pointed to on Microsoft's site is the 
Office Professional Plus.   So, when I bought my Office 2016 license, I 
purchased Office 2016 Professional Plus.   This gives me a license for one 
computer without a subscription and includes all key programs, including 
Outlook and a terabyte of storage on OneDrive.  

I have switched fully to using JAWS now, so I cannot speak to the accessibility 
of Window Eyes and Office 2016.  However, if you think about it, Office 2016 
was already out when Window Eyes support stopped, so I would think it would 
work.  I would not go to Office 2019, as I don't know how much different it 
might be and if, therefore, Window Eyes would have issues. 

Regardless, for only 10 US dollars, I figured that the investment was really 
inexpensive.  I was more worried about fraud, having never bought on eBay 
before, but the same could be true if you purchase Office 2016 and find it has 
issues with Window Eyes. You could move backward and purchase another cheap 
copy of Office 2010 or Office 2013.  Better to get the most recent copy of 
Office you think works with Window Eyes though, so that you are as caught up as 
possible. 


Robin Van Lant, Robin


 

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 2:34 PM
To: WE English Mailinglist 
Cc: David 
Subject: MS Office question

Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules?


I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few 
dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for 
unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles.


One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am 
neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will 
it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look 
out for?


They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for 
that version, or maybe they have already done so?


Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone 
happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess 
NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes 
functionality.


Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really 
don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know 
what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft 
decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have 
to spend days in figuring your way around the new features.


Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And 
please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression 
the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am 
mistaken, I'd be glad to know.


-- 
David

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RE: Outlook 2016 Ribbon

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I think I figured it out.  It appears that there are some options for sighted 
users that saves visual space on the screen and the keyboard commands vary with 
how that is set.  

There is a button called "Ribbon options submenu".  To get to it, arrow once 
right past the Customize Toolbar button.  Tabbing might also get you there.  On 
that, you can check whether to show the upper ribbon (called the tabs), or the 
lower ribbon "called the tabs and commands".  Check the option you want by 
hitting enter on it. From my test, you want to show the tabs and commands so 
that, when you open the home ribbon, you need just tab once to get to the 
options.  If you choose to only display the tabs, then you would hit Alt to 
open the ribbon, then you'd have to hit space to select the tab you want prior 
to hitting tab to go to the lower ribbon with all the command options.  

Hope this makes sense. 

 
-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 12:40 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Cc: Ayers, David (ITCS) 
Subject: Outlook 2016 Ribbon

Hello,

I pressed something in Outlook 2016 that messed up the ribbon menu drop down 
options.  When I press the alt key, under 'Home', I would get the options for a 
new message, reply, forward, etc.  Now I only get the option to customize 
toolbar.  Does anyone know how I can get my options back?

Thanks, David

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Re: money talks program

[Robin via Talk]

Marilyn that seems to be it many thanks.

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Here's what I have in my address book for Money Talks posting.  Hope it's up to 
date.  I haven't seen any list activity in ages... Marilyn
moneyta...@freelists.org
At 03:25 AM 1/20/2019, you wrote:
>Anyone using the money talks program could you please give me the right
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Re: money talks program

[Robin via Talk]

bernie i have joined the list but i amd dnot
doing something  right what is the email addresss to send a message to
the list.
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Hi, I do use the moneytalks program.  However, perhaps I don't have all 
lights on this morning, but I don't quite get what you are asking.  
Could you restate what it is you are looking for? thanks.  Bernie

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money talks program

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Anyone using the money talks program could you please give me the right
sendtext to send a mexxage to the list.
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RE: JAWS question

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Noreen,
Just to be clear, the Insert F4 is not just muting JAWS, but exiting the 
program, which is why you then need to start it back up when you want to use it 
again.  I'm not aware of a mute feature.


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Norene Trappa via Talk
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2018 1:08 PM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Cc: Norene Trappa 
Subject: Re: JAWS question

Hello again!   Another question.
If insert-f4 unloads Jaws so there is no voice, how can I get the voice to 
speak again?  In W-E it was so easy to bring the voice back.  Thanks in 
advance for help.

Norene



-Original Message- 
From: Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:24 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen
Subject: Re: JAWS question

Unless you change the modifier key to be CapsLock, the so-called JAWS key is
the Insert key.
A few keystrokes to note, among the hundreds that are available:
Insert-1: have the keys announce their function instead of perform their
action.
Insert-T: Read title bar.
Insert-B: Read the current active window, like ctrl-shift-W in Window-Eyes.
Insert-up-arrow: Read current line, like Insert-Center in Window-Eyes.
Insert-down-arrow: Read to end.
Insert-Tab: Get information about how you use the current contorl.
Insert-H: Some help for the currently-running program.
Insert-J: Open the JAWS control panel.
Insert-F4: Unload JAWS.
The numeric pad is not treated differently from the cursor keys and the
six-pack that are to the left of it.
Last spring Raoul Gallegos produced an 8-part podcast series about
transitioning from Window-Eyes to JAWS. Someone else can tell you what the
current URL is. Copy the files to your NLS talking book player and start
interacting with JAWS. It may not all make sense, but eventually you will be
productive.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Norene Trappa via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 10:39 PM
To: cov...@ccs.covici.com ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Norene Trappa
Subject: Re: JAWS question

Hello!

Sounds like you know something about Jaws.  I am very new at Jaws with a
question.My booklets talk about the Jaws key but don't tell me what it is.
Also, is there a keystroke for reading a document top to bottom?  It was
necessary for me to give up my dear window-eyes which was the only screen
reader I ever used.  I am using windows 10 and Jaws is 17 plus.  Quite a
challenge.  Thanks in advance.

Norene Trappa



-Original Message- 
From: John Covici via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 5:41 PM
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Cc: John Covici
Subject: Re: JAWS question

There is also an export settings menu item under the utilities menu,
if memory serves.

On Tue, 22 May 2018 16:10:05 -0400,
Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Yes, that is possible.
>
> The most effective way is to press win-r for run and type:
> %appdata%
> Here you find a folder freedom scientific
> In this folder you will find settings about jaws.
> In the folder there is a Jaws folder and there you will find a folder
> with the version number. 2018 or 18, 17 etc. You can simply copy this
> folder to the same location on the other computer.
> I think it is better to use nvda when copying it on the new computer so
> jaws will not lock files.
>
> Regards, Marten
>
>
> On Tue, 22 May 2018 15:28:08 -0400 Kevin Huber via Talk 
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> > Hi:
> >
> > My question is, can you move JAWS settings from one computer to another?
> > Kevin Huber
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RE: Problem With WE & Thunderbird

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Another keystroke to maximize is Windows up arrow.  

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From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:11 AM
To: Michael via Talk 
Cc: Nick Sarames 
Subject: Re: Problem With WE & Thunderbird

Of course, after I pressed alt-space, I arrowed down to maximize, and it said 
maximize disabled. But I hit enter anyway, we'll see.

On 11/28/2018 4:46 AM, Michael via Talk wrote:
> make sure the window is maxamized.
> 
> On 28/11/18 8:41 pm, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
>> Thanks, so what am I doing wrong? I can't read the e-mail I am 
>> composing, at least not when I use arrow keys.
>>
>> On 11/28/2018 4:36 AM, Michael via Talk wrote:
>>> not a problem.
>>>
>>> cheers Micael.I WAS ABLE TO TYPE AND EMAIL IN THUNDER BIRD WITH We
>>>
>>> On 28/11/18 7:36 pm, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
 But I am still having difficulty reading my e-mail while composing it.

 On 11/28/2018 3:34 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
> Just as an adendum, I restarted my computer, and that has helped 
> with many of my issues.
>
> On 11/28/2018 3:24 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
>> Hello:
>>
>> I don't want to clutter this list (too much), so if someone who 
>> is knowledgeable about Thunderbird, can e-mail me off list, I 
>> would appreciate that. I just gave permission for Thunderbird to 
>> give me updates. As a result, WE is less compatible.
>>
>> And as I write this, I can't use the arrow keys to check what I 
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RE: Considering VoiceOver

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I think her point is that she won't have to pay to maintain a screen reader 
license once on a Mac platform.  I like Voiceover on my phone, but cannot bring 
myself to invest in a Mac, especially while still using Windows at work.  NVDA 
is certainly a nice option to keep the cost out of the Windows picture. 



-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 1:30 PM
To: via Talk 
Cc: net bat 
Subject: Re: Considering VoiceOver

try the free n v d a. and jaws is a lot easier to upgrade then the i phone.
you will have the same problem if you are going to use the i phone.
it has to be updated about twice per year
you need a i tunes account and computer to upgrade it.
and half the time i have to restore the phone because the upgrade failed.
you will have virtually no access to any files saved on the phone like you have 
with windows.
after about 3 years apple will not give any   more upgrades for the phone.
the same with a apple mac.
it gets to the point where you will get a pop up telling you you need to get a 
new computer when you try to upgrade safari. my neace hit this point last year 
on her 5 year old mac.
etc. etc.



-Original Message- 
From: George Savory via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:57 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: George Savory
Subject: Considering VoiceOver

Listers,
Been using Win-Eyes  since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be
updated, I am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. Using
VoiceOver on my iPhone with Safari works perfectly. I don't know if
Jaws will ever work well with websites that use calenders; besides, I
won't have to be upgrading a screen reader  everytime there is an
upgrade
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keyboard commands for skype

[Robin via Talk]

About
Skype version 8.25.0.5
© 2018 Skype & Microsoft
You're on the latest version of Skype.
updated this today but can't find where to set up key commands Eg like
alt pgup to answer a call.
and alt pgdown to sign off.
many thanks for any help.
Cheers Robin.
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RE: auto-paragraphs

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Do you think she wants you to indent all the lines in the paragraph? Unless you 
are making a long, block quote, you wouldn't normally indent an entire 
paragraph.   Does she mean that she would rather have you add an empty line 
between paragrahs and not just indent the first line of the paragraph?  The 
default formatting style in Office 2010 and probably later version of Word is 
to automatically put a blank line between paragraphs when you hit enter to 
start your new paragraph.  I do like this for a couple reasons, Is I set my 
default back to the Office 2003 style settings.  

I'm just not clear what format your tutor is recommending and, therefore, how 
to advise you. 



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of CJ&AA MAY via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 11:05 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: CJ&AA MAY
Subject: RE: auto-paragraphs

I'm using Office 10 with Office 365.
Can anyone help with auto-paragraphing please? My Creative Writing Tutor would 
like me to use this feature rather than just indenting paragraphs by pressing 
the spacebar.
I see that Office offers control m to ident paragraphs. If I select my text, 
would pressing control m then indent every line which follows a press of the 
enter key?

Alison


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: 11 May 2018 17:59
To: Larry Higgins via Talk 
Cc: Bob Tinney 
Subject: Re: I'm beginning to notice new features that Window-Eyes does notg 
support

Thanks, Larry,


The bypass key worked.  I didn't know that control shift n was a window-eyes 
key.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 5/11/2018 10:56 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
> Sure it does. Use your WE bypass key and try it.
>
>
> On 5/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bob Tinney via Talk wrote:
>> I just noticed that WE does not support the new folder feature when 
>> you want to create a new folder by hitting control shift n. NVDA and 
>> Narrator do support this feature.
>>
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RE: MICROSOFT WORD: HELP PERFORMING THREE TASKS

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

The following steps for creating a macro seem pretty straight forward. 
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Create-or-run-a-macro-C6B99036-905C-49A6-818A-DFB98B7C3C9C

On my version, the Macros button is the last button on the View ribbon.  
Selecting it presents three options including Record Macro, which opens a 
dialog box to name the macro and create the keyboard shortcut.  As the 
instructions above indicate, you have to be sure you set the options to make 
the macro available in all new documents, which seems to be the default 
setting. 

Once you finish the dialog box, you'll go through the steps of typing out that 
information you want and centering it.  I'd also be sure that at the end you 
use Control L to go back to left justified, if that is how you'll want to be 
positioned after the macros runs. 

When you are done, go back to the View ribbon and to the macro button and now 
select the Stop Recording option.  

I hastily went through this process a moment ago to see where the stop button 
appeared.  I must not have done the right thing in assigning a keyboard 
shortcut, as the one hastily entered does not work, however, if I go back to 
the Macros button and select the first option, which is View macros, I can see 
my test macro there and clicking the "Run" button there does, in fact do what I 
recorded. 

So, give  this a whirl and let me know if you still have issues, as I think 
your task is pretty straightforward for us to get done.

Robin


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On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 11:47 PM
To: 'David'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; cur...@calweb.com
Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Subject: RE: MICROSOFT WORD: HELP PERFORMING THREE TASKS

Hi David:

Indeed, I did find some pointers online on how to create macros in Word.
Sadly, there were MORE PICTORIAL representations which then made it hard for me 
to make sense of what I read.  

Isn't Window-Eyes Central app repository gone now?  I'd be willing to give the 
RECORD MACRO app a spin.  

Retrospectively it doesn't look too hard to do in Word; however, recording the 
macro is what seems to be throwing me off.  Since I'm an insomniac, I will 
tinker with it tonight and see how far along I'll get.  I'll document what I am 
doing, but won't publish it here unless it works satisfactorily.  

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 

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RE: MICROSOFT WORD: HELP PERFORMING THREE TASKS

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I don't have time to write everything out on the first two right now, but I can 
give you the following on the outlining aspect.  As long as you did not disable 
automatic number in Word, you can get Word to create the outline for you.  Here 
is  write-up someone recently shared on the JASW or Window Eyes list recently.  

Type the first Roman number, then tab once to put in your information and press 
enter Most likely, Word will give you II after you press enter.  Tab once, and 
Word will give you A.  Fill in that line and press enter, and you will have B.  
Then C. and so on.

When you want another Roman number, press shift+tab, and I believe Word will 
fill in the II.


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On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
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Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Subject: MICROSOFT WORD: HELP PERFORMING THREE TASKS 

Hello in Window-Eyes Land:

Ok, I am stumped and need some help.  I have three tasks that I am trying to
accomplish:

1.  I need to create a Macro that can be invoked for purposes of printing 
company's address, phone number, E-mail address and such on paper so that I 
don't have to keep typing this repeatedly.  I want it centered.  What 
keystrokes or key sequences do I need to make this happen and how to save, 
well, forever?
2.  PAGE NUMBERING:  I have a need to set page numbers such that the numbering 
style will be something like Page 1 or 3 and so on.  How can I accomplish this 
task in Word?  Can I create a macro that can make this task more exciting as 
well?  If yes, how to record and save such a macro?
3.  CREATING AN OUTLINE:  Yes, good folks, how do I create an Outline?

Sorry for a boatload of questions; but I'm looking forward to getting some help 
with my project.  Much thanks and all the best.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado  

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RE: ONE Note

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I tried and gave up.  Too many drag and drop type elements and I couldn't find 
the value for the frustration.  



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On Behalf Of Ayers, David (ITCS) via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 1:38 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Cc: Ayers, David (ITCS)
Subject: ONE Note

Hello,

Anyone have any success using Microsoft One Note with any screen reader?

Thanks, David

David Ayers
Tioga County Information Technology
E:  aye...@co.tioga.ny.us
P: (607) 687-8294
F: (607) 223-7072

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RE: ribbons

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I recall doing a search on YouTube when I first moved to Office 2010. I think I 
searched for "Microsoft ribbon Window Eyes"  or something like that and find a 
couple quick sessions on using Window Eyes with the ribbons in Word.  
It the 

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:11 AM
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I am looking for a tutorial on ribbons. One that covers windows ten. An audio 
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Re: DVD Ripping

[Robin via Talk]

Tom try this I use it with success.
About License Terms
E x p re ss R ip
Express Rip plus v 2.00
Distributed by NCH Software
Licensed software
www.nch.com.au/rip
OK
Cheers Robin.
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RE: No mouse speech with win 7

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Haven't had that issue.Did you change the default location for JAWS?  I ask 
because I have had the experience that if the icon on the desktop is not a 
shortcut, but rather the real executable file, Windows would not let me create 
a keyboard shortcut.  


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On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 1:04 PM
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Cc: Brenda
Subject: Re: No mouse speech with win 7

Today I updated jaws so  used  window eyes in order to set The hot key for jaws 
in properties. Using window eyes and the application key. I was not able to 
access the properties of Jaws. it only gave me a list of stuff on the screen. 
Wondering if something is going on with window eyes.
Brenda 





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> 
> My system win 7 home premium we 9.5.4.
> Today I can't get my mouse to read anything on the screen.  It jumps to the 
> top or bottom with the numpad 1 and 7 keys however with the 8 and 2 keys no 
> speech.  Have looked through the mouse setting in the control panel but don't 
> see the problem.  Have restarted we several times as well.
> Please advise.
> Jim
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RE: No mouse speech with win 7

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Press alt and numpad 5 to be sure it is saying "line", not word or character.  
This can really change what I expect to hear with the mouse pointer.

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On Behalf Of Jim Elsner via Talk
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 10:48 AM
To: Talk
Cc: Jim Elsner
Subject: No mouse speech with win 7

My system win 7 home premium we 9.5.4.
Today I can't get my mouse to read anything on the screen.  It jumps to the top 
or bottom with the numpad 1 and 7 keys however with the 8 and 2 keys no speech. 
 Have looked through the mouse setting in the control panel but don't see the 
problem.  Have restarted we several times as well.
Please advise.
Jim

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RE: Help with JAWS spell checking in Outlook and Word

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

If I'm not mistaken, F7 has been the hotkey for spellchecking in Word and even 
WordPerfect 5.1, before menus and ribbons came to be.   Those of us in our 40s 
and older are more likely to recall the days before menus, when so many 
functions in a word processor were done by hitting various function keys, 
sometimes with shift or control.  I recall my mom having a strip across the top 
of her keyboard that showed a color-coded label for what each function key did 
- F5 to save, F7 to spell check and so on.  




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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:50 AM
To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Nick Sarames
Subject: Re: Help with JAWS spell checking in Outlook and Word

Clarification question, I mainly write in my e-mail program Thunderbird. 
  And when I spell check,, I first press f-7.  What is the derivation of that 
hot key?

On 11/29/2017 2:45 PM, Rebecca Lineberger via Talk wrote:
> I know W-E gave us its own way to check spelling, but I've used the 
> alt-f7 method for spellchecking for years in Window-Eyes.  Just to 
> play with JAWS and my Office 2010, I tried the old f7 way.  JAWS does 
> a nice job, saying and then spelling the incorrect word, then doing 
> the same for what it suggests as the preferred replacement.  The only 
> thing I had to remember is that enter is for ignore, not change.  LOL. 
> If you don't like the suggested replacement, tab once to a list box 
> with all the suggestions.  You can arrow down through them and JAWS 
> says and spells each.  If you continue to tab through, you will find a 
> grammar box which you can uncheck if you choose.
> JAWS continues to find misspellings automatically without your having 
> to press f7 again.
>   My hands just automatically press alt-f7.  If you want to check the 
> spelling of the suggestion, which JAWS does not give you with this 
> method, just press insert numpad 5 twice.
> For any other misspellings you'll need to press the alt-f7 again each 
> time as you do with the alt-apostrophe in W-E. .
> Rebecca
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com
> ] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 1:59 PM
> To: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
> Cc: Tom Kingston
> Subject: Re: Help with JAWS spell checking in Outlook and Word
> 
> Hmm. I haven't had any problems with Window-Eyes. And I'm running the 
> latest fall creators update. That's why I have little incentive to figure out 
> JAWS.
> Actually I've spent more time with NVDA. I don't think either are on 
> par with Window-Eyes. But if I can get the freebie working I'll go that route.
> Good luck,
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 11/29/2017 1:35 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote:
>> Thanks, Tom.  Not as friendly on the fingers and it seems to 
>> automatically
> expand the context menu before I even know what word is highlighted, but I'm
> glad to have an option to play with.   Yeah, I've been pokey about the
> migration process, but I keep having weird silencing issues in Window 
> Eyes, so I'm really trying to get myself onto JAWS.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 AM
>> To: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
>> Cc: Tom Kingston
>> Subject: Re: Help with JAWS spell checking in Outlook and Word
>>
>> Robin,
>> I don't know about JAWS as I've barely gotten beyond wrestling with 
>> it for
> a bit here and there. But Word itself has a keyboard shortcut to jump 
> to the next spelling or grammatical error: Alt+F7.
>> Here's a link to a page with all the keyboard shortcuts.
>> http://www.keyxl.com/aaa2cd7/445/Microsoft-Word-2010-keyboard-shortcu
>> t
>> s.htm
>> Hth,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 11/29/2017 12:40 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote:
>>> All,
>>> I'm struggling with the transition to JAWS as it relates to spell
> checking a Word document or Outlook email.  I absolutely loved the 
> Window Eyes feature allowing me to move to each  error with Alt semicolon and
> apostrophe.   I really did not get the hang of navigating the Spell checking
> dialog efficiently.   So, to those who have made the transition, can you
> guide me as to the best way to spell check?  I'm in Office 2010.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager St

RE: Observations

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

The only way I survive any of these lists is by using the conversation view in 
Outlook.  I have each group list automatically go into a respective folder and 
then have the message grouped by conversation thread with the subject line read 
first so that I can quickly delete topics.  I am so grateful for several lists 
for technical help.   





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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:02 PM
To: Brenda via Talk
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: Observations

I'm with you, Brenda. I'm only on this and another low traffic list and 
sometimes struggle to keep up. I joined the NVDA list a week or two ago and 
lasted one afternoon. It was an endless stream of pointless posts. I think some 
people live on mailing lists. How sad.
Regards,
Tom


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> Hi List,
> 
> I usually check email on my iPhone, deleting those with topics I'm not 
> interested in or saving them to reply to on my pc which I  don't visit 
> that often.
> 
> today as I went through my email on my desktop it was so nice to see 
> this list being active with a variety of people participating.
> 
> I'm glad Window-eyes is still hanging in there but I'm also glad I can 
> get jaws help from a Window-eyes prospective. I know there is a jaws 
> list but I can't spend my day reading emails.
> 
> Brenda
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RE: Help with JAWS spell checking in Outlook and Word

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Thanks, Tom.  Not as friendly on the fingers and it seems to automatically 
expand the context menu before I even know what word is highlighted, but I'm 
glad to have an option to play with.   Yeah, I've been pokey about the 
migration process, but I keep having weird silencing issues in Window Eyes, so 
I'm really trying to get myself onto JAWS.  





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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 AM
To: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: Re: Help with JAWS spell checking in Outlook and Word

Robin,
I don't know about JAWS as I've barely gotten beyond wrestling with it for a 
bit here and there. But Word itself has a keyboard shortcut to jump to the next 
spelling or grammatical error: Alt+F7.
Here's a link to a page with all the keyboard shortcuts.
http://www.keyxl.com/aaa2cd7/445/Microsoft-Word-2010-keyboard-shortcuts.htm
Hth,
Tom


On 11/29/2017 12:40 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote:
> All,
> I'm struggling with the transition to JAWS as it relates to spell checking a 
> Word document or Outlook email.  I absolutely loved the Window Eyes feature 
> allowing me to move to each  error with Alt semicolon and apostrophe.   I 
> really did not get the hang of navigating the Spell checking dialog 
> efficiently.   So, to those who have made the transition, can you guide me as 
> to the best way to spell check?  I'm in Office 2010.
> 
> 
> 
> Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager
> Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
> 720-304-1060 | robin_van_l...@key.com
> 
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Help with JAWS spell checking in Outlook and Word

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

All,
I'm struggling with the transition to JAWS as it relates to spell checking a 
Word document or Outlook email.  I absolutely loved the Window Eyes feature 
allowing me to move to each  error with Alt semicolon and apostrophe.   I 
really did not get the hang of navigating the Spell checking dialog 
efficiently.   So, to those who have made the transition, can you guide me as 
to the best way to spell check?  I'm in Office 2010.



Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager
Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
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RE: explanation

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Anthony,

I'm not familiar with the spreadsheet you are talking about, but am familiar 
with macros.  I'm trying to imagine where you are running into the issue.  I'll 
also caveat by saying that I'm still on Office 2010, but hopefully some notes 
below will help.. 

To add the Developer tab to your ribbon, follow the steps below. You'll need 
this to create and run macros. 
1.  Click File → Options → Customize Ribbon.
2. In the Main Tabs list, check Developer.
3. Click OK.

Next, Enable Macros in Excel.  This can be set to not allow macros as a safety 
feature. 
1. Click File → Options → Trust Center.
2. Click Trust Center Settings.
3. Click Macro Settings.
4. Select Disable all macros with notification.
5. Click OK twice.
You can opt to select Enable all macros, but this opens you up to inadvertently 
allowing a macro run that has malicious code in it. 

Once you've done the above, files you open that have a macros saved in them 
should prompt you to enable macros.  Enabling them does not necessarily mean 
the macros will run until till you tell it to do so, but it will allow You to 
then go trigger the macro.  It's kind of like saying to remove protective view 
of a document.  
I used to use a file with macros.  When I opened the file, I would get a pop-up 
asking if I wanted to enable macros.  I think the default button was disable, 
due to the safety aspects.  This pop-up box may have been in an older version 
of Office.  I've also seen the Enable Macros button appear, much like the 
button for Enable Editing button appears when you open a file you received as 
an attachment.  In this latter case, the button is in the ribbon and pressing 
F6 (or maybe it's shift F6) then tab to the button.  




-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of anthony borg via Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:35 AM
To: anthony borg
Cc: anthony borg
Subject: explanation 

Hi list 

I needto use the spread sheet chess clock on my laptop so can somebody explain 
to me how to do the settings to enable macros please? 

I have windows 10 as operating system, and office 2013. 

Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

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RE: A little tech tip on Windows and screen readers.

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Tom,
That is a little geeky, but still interesting.  Thanks for sharing.



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Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 12:54 PM
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Cc: Tom Kingston
Subject: A little tech tip on Windows and screen readers.

For years Windows has had a screen reader flag that our screen readers set to 
true when we load them and false when we close them. Most programs don't pay 
any attention to this, but there are programs that do. And Windows itself 
actually does a little work to feed our screen readers some information that 
would otherwise be inaccessible when this flag is true.

While writing a program I needed to look up the Windows SystemParametersInfo 
function for something unrelated. It is a doorway to numerous system 
parameters. In doing so I was reminded that it's also where a pile of 
accessibility parameters are accessed as well, e.g. 
screen reader, high contrast, keyboard access preference, no animations, visual 
effects, etc. All of these have get and set functions.

A common scenario probably most of us have experienced is that our screen 
reader goes silent. So we fire up another one to see what's going on. For 
example, Window-Eyes will stop talking occasionally with IE error messages. But 
for some reason, usually, as soon as I fire up NVDA, or close the error message 
window with NVDA, Window-Eyes comes back to life. The point is that I end up 
with two screen readers running simultaneously.

I always assumed this would mess with the screen reader flag status. And 
stumbling upon this offered me a golden opportunity to get away from my real 
work. So I wrote a little program to check the screen reader and keyboard 
preference flags. the latter is to indicate to developers that you want 
keyboard access rather than a mouse driven interface. I doubt anyone uses or 
pays any attention to this because if they did a purely mouse driven graphical 
interface would be replaced by a keyboard driven interface with standard 
controls. At least that would be the best case scenario. Our screen readers 
don't set it to true anyway because the screen reader flag is saying the same 
thing. It's another case of the elements existing and not being used. Case in 
point, W3C web standards. 
But I digress.

The driving force was that I've known about this for years and suspected that 
loading another screen reader atop an existing one and then unloading either 
would leave the screen reader flag false. My program confirmed my suspicion. I 
may have mentioned this before because I was told about this years ago. But I 
wanted a concrete answer. And I was curious as to whether it had been improved. 
Although I have been operating on my assumption ever since hearing about it 
initially.

I ran my program with Window-Eyes running and then after unloading it. I then 
did the same with NVDA. I haven't installed JAWS on my new system yet, but I 
assume it will do the same. When one is loaded the screen reader flag is true 
and when it's not it's false. And if I load either while the other is running 
and then unload one of them I still have a screen reader running but the screen 
reader flag is false.

The reason I wanted to know this for sure is that I thought if common sense had 
prevailed there would have been a simple screen reader counter. That way the 
true count could stack up and screen reader would not be false until the 
counter was zero, which is always false in programming logic. Evidently common 
sense didn't prevail on this one.

So now you know. I recommend reloading your screen reader if you have to load 
and then unload another to get out of a jam.

And here's the bonus prize! Narrator does not set the flag true. So you don't 
have to worry about it if you load Narrator atop another screen reader. Why 
this is is beyond comprehension. But Microsoft states it clearly on their 
developers network and my program confirmed it. I suppose they incorporated a 
seperate internal flag for Narrator. Who knows.

Regards,
Tom

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RE: Tables and Word 7

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Carol, Did you get this figured out?  If not, the best suggestion I have it to 
do the following, assuming you are working in Word.  Find the offending label.  
Hit Shift Tab, then tab again.  In my experience, Word treats a label template 
as a bit table.  When you shift tab way from the cell you are in and tab back 
into it, the entire cell contents are selected by default, so you can just hit 
delete and retype the info you want.  

 

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On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
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Cc: Carol and Roger
Subject: Tables and Word 7

Hello,

I need to print a sheet of labels with different information in the boxes.  I 
have put label contents for one block in the wrong space.  How can I select the 
entire contents of the block to move it to another one.  When I try to select 
all of the text and paste that, it changes every block to the text I just 
copied.  Help!

Carol



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Re: App Central.

[Robin via Talk]

zeff many thanks for thatt.
Who say's wineyes is dead!!
Cheers Robin.
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on 19/09/17 4:42:58 PM Jeff Weiss via Talk Wrote: 
  
Goto App Central and get a package called
InstallPackages.wepm
When you install this app you have several options right in the dialog about 
how many packages you want to see:
all
new
updates
both (which means new packages and updates)

Choose all
It will say there are 171 packages, but the first one is a blank package that 
should have been removed.  When you try to download it, the app says error--but 
don't worry, the rest will be downloaded
when you tab to get packages.
press enter and you will be prompted for a folder to store apps.
I use
c:\apps
Type that in and press enter.
All the packages listed will be downloaded to your computer.

hth,
Jeff Weiss


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Subject: App Central.

some one gave instructions how to download all of the those apps on
App Central.
I have mislayed those instructions so if anyone can help i would be
greatfull.
many thanks.
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App Central.

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some one gave instructions how to download all of the those apps on 
App Central.
I have mislayed those instructions so if anyone can help i would be
greatfull.
many thanks.
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RE: Easiest way to open an attachment in Thunderbird?

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Thanks, Brian.  We'll see if this helps Nick with the file. 



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On Behalf Of Brian Moore via Talk
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:38 AM
To: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Cc: Brian Moore
Subject: Re: Easiest way to open an attachment in Thunderbird?

Hi.  alt+m for the message menu and then h to get to the attachments.  
then right arrow on the one you want to get a menu of open save or delete.



On 09/11/2017 11:30 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote:
> All,
> I'm helping Nick on this list with an Excel attachment.  He uses Thunderbird 
> and I use Outlook, so I'm not sure the easiest way for him to open the 
> attachment in Thunderbird.  He's hearing some special characters that I'm not 
> getting, so I think there must be something in the way he's viewing the 
> attachment.
>
> Can one of you Thunderbird users hit "reply all" and tell Nick the easiest 
> way to open an Excel attachment in Thunderbird?
>
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Easiest way to open an attachment in Thunderbird?

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

All,
I'm helping Nick on this list with an Excel attachment.  He uses Thunderbird 
and I use Outlook, so I'm not sure the easiest way for him to open the 
attachment in Thunderbird.  He's hearing some special characters that I'm not 
getting, so I think there must be something in the way he's viewing the 
attachment.

Can one of you Thunderbird users hit "reply all" and tell Nick the easiest way 
to open an Excel attachment in Thunderbird?


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RE: Window-eyes & Reading Attachments

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Is your question about all the umlauts and such or just about opening and 
reading an Excel file?  




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On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:04 AM
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Cc: Nick Sarames
Subject: Window-eyes & Reading Attachments



I don't want to clutter this list, so if someone is able to assist me off list, 
I would appreciate that.

nicksara...@msn.com

I have an excel file (I think it's an excel file) which contains the rosters in 
my Fantasy Baseball league.  I have never really learned how to read this sort 
of attachment, but would like to find out if it is readable (lots of umlauts 
and circumflexes), thanks in advance.


I don't want to clutter this list, so if someone is able to assist me off list, 
I would appreciate that.

nicksara...@msn.com

I have an excel file (I think it's an excel file) which contains the rosters in 
my Fantasy Baseball league.  I have never really learned how to read this sort 
of attachment, but would like to find out if it is readable (lots of umlauts 
and circumflexes), thanks in advance.

Nick


Nick

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RE: Outlook 201 E-mail Format Question

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I think what you seek is to disable the "Message Virtualization".  Press the 
Alt, Shift and V key's to toggle this setting.  If that doesn't work for 
whatever reason, go to the Window Eyes control panel, go to the Apps menu and 
arrow down to the Outlook Enhance app.  Then, on the submenu for Outlook 
Enhance, toggle the Message Virtualization setting. 



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Cc: Terry D. Eagle
Subject: Outlook 201 E-mail Format Question3 

I use Outlook 2013 to read e-mail.

After reinstalling Window Eyes, my e-mail messages appear in a table format, 
and read table this and table that, preventing the message to be read, and 
links within the message from being used.

What steps do I take to get rid of the table format for messages, and return to 
a plain message format to read messages?

Thanks.

Terry 


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Re: Two Jaws Questions

[Robin via Talk]

 Michael.,many thanks for your help 
i am getting there bit by bit,
cheers robin.

on 21/07/17 11:59:37 AM michaels mail via Talk Wrote: 
  Hi press insert f 2 to go to the jaws manager.
Then press s till you hear settings center.
press space on it then press shift control d to load jaws defaults.
Then in the eddid box type manage.
Then select the key lable then press the letter you want to find the keys you 
want to change.
After you find the enter key press space you will hear mute then press enter 
twice.
To save the change.
You will need to do this to all the keys you want to change.
cheers Michael.

-Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:46 PM
To: David Pearson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Two Jaws Questions

Although you can not get it to stop speaking the words alt and control,
you can find them in the key label section and tab to the edit box and
simply erase the names there.  As for enter and escape, they do have a
mute toggle.  I don't remember exactly how to get to the key label
setting right now, though.  I am sure someone can give directions to
this if you need it.

Carol


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> Sadly, it seems you cant.  Along with shift, control alt and others.
>
> At 04:48 PM 7/20/2017, you wrote:
>> How do you stop jaws from saying alt f 4 and enter?
>>
>>
>> On 7/20/2017 10:57 AM, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> I am not aware that JAWS has any hotkkey to get to the calendar.  I
>>> just press control-y to bring up the list of all the folders and then
>>> either arrow down to Calendar or press the letter c to get to the
>>> calendar.
>>>
>>> Kevin Huber
>>>
>>> On 7/19/17, Dennis Long via Talk  wrote:
 I use Eloquence.

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 On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY via Talk
 Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 1:47 PM
 To: 'Ted Larson'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: Two Jaws Questions

 At last I have migrated to Jaws. I have to confess I'm not enjoying the
 experience so far but realise I need to learn how to tweak some  
 settings.

 My first problem is that I don't like the speech! I strongly disliked  
 the
 default Eloquence and am using Peter at the moment but wondered which
 voices
 people are using and feel are clearest.

 I think it is going to be a long time before I will be able to say I  
 prefer
 Jaws to Windoweyes.

 I hadn't realised that insert c to reach the Outlook Calendar was a
 Window-eyes key.

 How do I access the Outlook calendar using Jaws please?



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RE: PDF question

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

If I press just page up and down, I can tell that the speech is moving forward 
or backward by small leaps.  Control and Page Up and Down are not make the 
speech jump ahead, just the picture on the screen.  I'm in a 22 page document 
and trying to jump ahead mid-way through. Ugh. I really thought that keystroke 
you referenced below used to work, but it's not working now.  



 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 6:34 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: PDF question

Hi Robin,

Ctrl-PgDn and Ctrl-PgUp will advanced to the next and previous pages, 
respectively.

Best,

Rod

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Sent: August 24, 2017 6:34 PM
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Cc: Van Lant, Robin 
Subject: PDF question

Please remind me, because I'm driving myself crazy with reading a multi-page 
document in Adobe.   I have Adobe set for single page display.  If I am reading 
a page and want to move to the next page, I can hit alt right arrow or the page 
down and I can tell it's visually changing on the screen, but Window Eyes 9.4 
is not advancing where speech focus is located.  What is the trick?




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PDF question

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Please remind me, because I'm driving myself crazy with reading a multi-page 
document in Adobe.   I have Adobe set for single page display.  If I am reading 
a page and want to move to the next page, I can hit alt right arrow or the page 
down and I can tell it's visually changing on the screen, but Window Eyes 9.4 
is not advancing where speech focus is located.  What is the trick?




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jaws list

[Robin via Talk]

what's the address for the jaws list.
what a bloted program jaws is.
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RE: Jaws migration along with the msa

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I would call and ask.



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Paulette Vickery via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 8:10 PM
To: 'brice Mijares'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Jaws migration along with the msa

Thanks. Now that you mentioned the price, I remember that the same price was 
quoted to me. Do you think that since I didn't purchase a sma at that price 
when I received the free Jaws, that the half price offer for the sma is no 
longer valid or available?

Paulette

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On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 7:15 PM
To: Tony C via Talk
Subject: Re: Jaws migration along with the msa

When I migrated I bought two upgrades for $120.
Here is the info.
JAWS Home SMA
$120.00
SubTotal:
$120.00
Tax:
$9.45
Shipping:
$0.00
Order Total:
$129.45
If you have any questions regarding this order please contact Customer Service 
at the number below.


VFO Customer Service


On 7/6/2017 3:08 PM, Tony C via Talk wrote:
> I never heard of getting a discount for MSA. There was something about 
> that if a person had a legit copy of WE and it was NOT up to date that 
> there might be some discount to bring it up to date when switching over 
> to Jaws.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Paulette Vickery via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:25 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: Jaws migration along with the msa
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> I have received my Jaws key, that isn't the problem. However, I thought we
> were supposed to get a discount for a msa. When I asked about that
> yesterday, even though the deal is still in effect, the woman I spoke with
> said there is no deas for the msa. Am I incorrect about a less expensive 
> msa
> for WE users? If there is supposed to be a discount, is there someone in
> particular with whom I should speak? Thanks for your help.
> 
> 
> 
> Paulette
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Re: Jaws Migration

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

OK folks, my experience is now just like Michael described. I put in my online 
request yesterday late morning got a confirmation email by mid afternoon got my 
invoice this morning and got my download instructions and activation code this 
afternoon when I got home from work. All told, must have been no more than 36 
hours for the complete process. Each email did come from someone different if 
that is helpful to you. 

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> On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:36 PM, michaels mail via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> i did the on line form then i got a comfermation email then a second email 
> saying di did i want home or pro version.
> Then next day i got a email with autherization in it.cheers.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Alison May via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 10:42 PM
> To: Pamela Dominguez
> Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Jaws Migration
> 
> Did you complete the online form?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
> 0777 315 8181
> 
>> On 6 Jul 2017, at 12:26 pm, Pamela Dominguez  wrote:
>> 
>> Since I've never done it before, I can't say.  But my question is this. On 
>> Friday, I did it, and I got responses.  One had a question in it, which I 
>> answered.  She wanted to know if I was using the home or professional 
>> version.  On Monday, I got what seems to be an invoice.  Is there another 
>> thing I am waiting for that has the key in it?  Or do I use the invoice 
>> number?  Pam.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: CJ &AA MAY via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 5:14 AM
>> To: 'Barbara' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Jaws Migration
>> 
>> I have now sent two requests regarding free migration to Jaws - one ten days
>> ago and another on Monday. All I've received in return is an automated
>> reply.
>> 
>> Is this typical?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Alison
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Jaws Migration

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Hey Rod, for all this conversation, ironically got an email today  with 
download instructions and my authorization code in it. All told, I think the 
full process for me took 36 hours. I wonder why this was my experience and so 
many others are having to wait so long. Yes, I did get the professional version 
and had window eyes SMAs , so maybe that had something to do with it. I have 
not yet installed jars but at least I now know I have my copy.

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> On Jul 6, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Robin,
> 
> You will not get any instructional email about where and how to download Jaws.
> As Tony pointed out, you can download it yourself and then activate it when 
> you get your authorization key.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Rod
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk
> Sent: July 6, 2017 2:31 PM
> To: Alison May ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: RE: Jaws Migration
> 
> I just got the invoice email some of you have mentioned.  There is no 
> indication in this about download instructions.  I'd imagine this is the 
> second step in the process, giving me proof of my order and SMA. So, now I 
> join that waiting game for the download instructions email.  
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alison May [mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 11:49 AM
> To: Van Lant, Robin; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Pamela Dominguez
> Subject: Re: Jaws Migration
> 
> That's the response I got to. But I hadn't taken into account July 4 or the 
> conference. It is 10 days since I got that email. But I will keep my fingers 
> crossed!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
> 0777 315 8181
> 
>> On 6 Jul 2017, at 5:48 pm, Van Lant, Robin via Talk 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> One of my VFO emails when to junk, so check that too.  I completed the 
>> online form yesterday and got an initial confirmation within hours.  That 
>> email said my authorization Key would come in about 3 days.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+robin.van.lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 5:26 AM
>> To: CJ &AA MAY; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Jaws Migration
>> 
>> Since I've never done it before, I can't say.  But my question is this.  On 
>> Friday, I did it, and I got responses.  One had a question in it, which I 
>> answered.  She wanted to know if I was using the home or professional 
>> version.  On Monday, I got what seems to be an invoice.  Is there another 
>> thing I am waiting for that has the key in it?  Or do I use the invoice 
>> number?  Pam.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: CJ &AA MAY via Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 5:14 AM
>> To: 'Barbara' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Jaws Migration
>> 
>> I have now sent two requests regarding free migration to Jaws - one ten days 
>> ago and another on Monday. All I've received in return is an automated reply.
>> 
>> Is this typical?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Alison
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: Jaws Migration

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I think it's just  a sales record.  The totals all say "$1.00".  I'm sure it's 
a necessary tracking step in their accounting records and gives me a receipt 
showing that I do in fact have a legitimate copy of JAWS and 2 additional SMAs 
that transferred over from Window Eyes.  I'm glad to have it as a receipt.


From: CJ &AA MAY [mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 1:18 PM
To: Van Lant, Robin
Subject: RE: Jaws Migration

Why have you got an invoice if it is a free migration?

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RE: Jaws Migration

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I just got the invoice email some of you have mentioned.  There is no 
indication in this about download instructions.  I'd imagine this is the second 
step in the process, giving me proof of my order and SMA. So, now I join that 
waiting game for the download instructions email.  



-Original Message-
From: Alison May [mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 11:49 AM
To: Van Lant, Robin; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Pamela Dominguez
Subject: Re: Jaws Migration

That's the response I got to. But I hadn't taken into account July 4 or the 
conference. It is 10 days since I got that email. But I will keep my fingers 
crossed!

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181

> On 6 Jul 2017, at 5:48 pm, Van Lant, Robin via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> One of my VFO emails when to junk, so check that too.  I completed the online 
> form yesterday and got an initial confirmation within hours.  That email said 
> my authorization Key would come in about 3 days.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+robin.van.lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 5:26 AM
> To: CJ &AA MAY; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Jaws Migration
> 
> Since I've never done it before, I can't say.  But my question is this.  On 
> Friday, I did it, and I got responses.  One had a question in it, which I 
> answered.  She wanted to know if I was using the home or professional 
> version.  On Monday, I got what seems to be an invoice.  Is there another 
> thing I am waiting for that has the key in it?  Or do I use the invoice 
> number?  Pam.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CJ &AA MAY via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 5:14 AM
> To: 'Barbara' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Jaws Migration
> 
> I have now sent two requests regarding free migration to Jaws - one ten days 
> ago and another on Monday. All I've received in return is an automated reply.
> 
> Is this typical?
> 
> 
> 
> Alison
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Jaws Migration

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

One of my VFO emails when to junk, so check that too.  I completed the online 
form yesterday and got an initial confirmation within hours.  That email said 
my authorization Key would come in about 3 days.



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin.van.lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 5:26 AM
To: CJ &AA MAY; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Jaws Migration

Since I've never done it before, I can't say.  But my question is this.  On 
Friday, I did it, and I got responses.  One had a question in it, which I 
answered.  She wanted to know if I was using the home or professional version.  
On Monday, I got what seems to be an invoice.  Is there another thing I am 
waiting for that has the key in it?  Or do I use the invoice number?  Pam.

-Original Message-
From: CJ &AA MAY via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 5:14 AM
To: 'Barbara' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Jaws Migration

I have now sent two requests regarding free migration to Jaws - one ten days 
ago and another on Monday. All I've received in return is an automated reply.

Is this typical?



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RE: about book share and jaws

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I think you can download many or all bookshare titles as mp3 audio files, which 
means you could paln them on your computer or the NLS player if you put them on 
a USB drive.   These days, I prefer to load them into Voice Dream Reader as 
daisy files on my iphone.  I've also loaded them onto a BookSense device.  

The site works fine with Window Eyes.  I don't have JAWS yet, but I cannot 
imagine you'd have trouble.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin.van.lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of BK via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 12:48 PM
To: gw micro
Subject: about book share and jaws

Hello, anyone know the easiest way to read books on book share? For example, 
will they play on the NLS player or another external device? Is book share 
speech friendly, especially with jaws? I have other questions, but will ask 
them off the list if anyone has experience with book share and wants to help. 
All help is appreciated.

Butch

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jaws saying

[Robin via Talk]

how  do you stop ljaws saying shift tab and other keys like control 6
it will drive me mad.
many thanks.
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RE: problem with Outlook 2010

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

And if you have some vision and really do want to have them visually displayed, 
go to the view ribbon and tab till you hear Navigation Pane, To Do Pane, etc., 
and you can set eat to Normal.  I do keep my navigation pane set to normal and 
all other panes to "off".  

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL via Talk
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 7:47 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: problem with Outlook 2010

Somenow my "navigation pane" got minimized. Now, instead of seeing all of my 
folders and mailboxes, they seem to be "minimized. If I press spacebar on the 
"navigation pane minimized" they open very briefly then close again. How do I 
fix this?

Thanks.   

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RE: Outlook 2007 Question

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

While in the inbox, go to the View Ribbon , then tab a few times to the 
Arrangement group, then once more to the Reverse Sort, button.  If  you are not 
already viewing your inbox in date order, you will first need to go to the 
button just before this and select the Arrange by Date option.  



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin.van.lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Gill Pries via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:34 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Outlook 2007 Question

Hi,

I am using Microsoft Outlook 2007.  I want to have messages sorted the oldest 
first to the newest.

How do I do this?

I forgot.

Using Jaws 18 and Windows 10 creator edition.

 

Pastor Gil

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Re: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

[Robin via Talk]

some one put a link to download for jaws on this list  bcould they
please do it again .
It's going to be hard to change over after using windoweyes so long.
many thanks.
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RE: why does outlook not find attachments?

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Sometimes I have this, too, but I have not taken note of the pattern.  Aside 
from what was mentioned, I have also used the following two workarounds.  
Idea #1.  From the list of messages in the inbox, hit Control F to forward the 
message.  Then you are able to tab from the "To" field down to the Attachments 
failed and can find the attachments.  There are a couple ways to open the file 
from here,. 

Idea #2.  When a message is open, you can go to the file menu with Alt F, then 
arrow down to save all attachments.  I often do this if there are multiple 
attachments and I want to grab them all at one time. 




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On Behalf Of Ted Larson via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 4:09 PM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: why does outlook not find attachments?

   Dear List:

I am using windows ten and office 2016 with outlook.

After receiving an e-mail that definitely had an attachment, because other 
people receiving it were able to open it, Window-eyes said "no attachments 
found" when I hit the alt-7 key.  In the inbox, the message description said 
that there are attachments, but, when I hit enter to get into the message and 
then hit the alt-7, it said "no attachments found."  Do you have any ideas why 
it cannot find and open the document?  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson

 

 

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RE: MS Excel 2010

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I, too, sometimes find that cells will not read and find that alt tabbing away 
and back will usingally fix this for me.  For me, the symptom is that nothing 
is reading, not just when I press F2  though.  The protected worksheet question 
is a good one to ask. 



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2017 7:01 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: MS Excel 2010

I am using WE 9.5.5 with Windows 7 64-bit pro. When I press F2 to edit a cell, 
nothing reads any more. This occurs whether the window i8s maximized or not. I 
tried refreshing the accessibility library of Window-Eyes which worked for one 
time. But the vehavior quickly returned. Any help would be appreciated.
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Anyone tried Quicken 2017?

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I got an email promoting the new Quicken 2017 and it claims that it's been 
redesigned for easier use.  That can be good or really bad.  Anyone seen the 
new upgrade?   Those of you using Quicken 2016 Deluxe or Premium may already 
have a view of it, as the add indicated that the redesign wasn't fully new for 
those version, but definitely new for the Basic version users.   The good news 
is that Quicken is also offering a 60-day money back guarantee, so maybe I'll 
order it an try it.



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RE: pronunciation query

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

That is interesting.  I'm reading the examples in your message and it's 
consistent for me across all 3 of your examples.  Are you trying to get it to 
say the word apostrophe?  In my default settings, I   have screen voice 
settings set to not read miscellaneous punctuation.  So, when I read your 
examples, I can hear the sounds of the S at the end of each word, but WE did 
not voice the presence of the apostrophe.  If I turn miscellaneous punctuation 
on then I hear WE voice an apostrophe  and the subsequent S after each word.   
Hmmm.. I'm wondering if this is a synthesizer difference, especially if you are 
just trying to hear that there is a S there and not necessarily trying to get 
WE to say the word apostrophe.   



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On Behalf Of Grant Metcalf via Talk
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 12:42 PM
To: Via Talk
Subject: pronunciation query

Using Win7 with WE 9.5.4. I noticed recently that when reading documents where 
an apostrophy-s occurs after a name ending with the letter h that the 
apostrophy-s is not spoken in normal reading mode. Two examples:   Jehovah’s 
Isaiah’s.  If I do a word by word cursor they do speak the apostrophy-s.  Of 
course, words or names ending with another letter followed by the apostrophy-s 
do seem to read normally, i. e. brother’s, sister’s, Rod’s, and Tom’s. 
The question is:  Is there a fix or is this just something that needs a fix?  
Now that I am aware of the problem I am able to deal with it as needed.
Cordially,
Grandpa DOS, a k a Grant
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RE: outlook enhance keeps getting messed up

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I am on Windows 7 with Outlook 2010 and the newest Window Eyes at work and I do 
have to re-enable Outlook Enhance sometimes, but I cannot say what triggers 
this.  I have found that simply going into the Window Eyes Control panel, 
turning off all apps and then turning back on seems to fix it for me.  

Seems to me that within the last few months, I have also had issues where, if I 
edit something I've typed in an Outlook message, WE will stop voicing.  If I 
alt tab away from Outlook and back, it will work again as needed.  I've also 
had odd issues when editing a subject line.  If I edit, then go to move between 
works, WE will sometimes just read the first letter of the word, not the whole 
word.  

I'm still sticking with Widow Eyes, but wish these little issues would go away. 
 




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On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL via Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: outlook enhance keeps getting messed up

HI, indoweyes listers and staff. 
I've been a WE user for years and years and am reaching the end of my rope.
Over the past year or so Outlook Enhance (the app that makes Outlook usable) 
keeps turning off, forcing me to re-enable it manually. This has happened at 
least a half-a-dozen times; it just happened tonight. I opened Windoweyes, went 
to Outlook and my e-mail messages aren't reading properly. Links aren'
working and reading strangelyh; I can't see names or addresses when I type in 
the "
to" box, etc. I'm fed up. If I didn't have JAWS as a backup, I'd be in deep 
doo-doo. Are others having this problem?
Thanks. 
PWhen I pressed altF, T A A to get into add-ons, I can't see Outlook enhanced 
as an add-on to re-activate. 
As I said, I'm fed up. 
  John  


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Training software used at your work?

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

My company has a training software package that manages course enrollment, 
required compliance testing, self-study courses and so on.  The software has 
some screen reader compatibility issues, but I can generally navigate the basic 
steps I'm required to do.  Where I have not had success is with any online 
courses they offer.  I'm going to have a training department person sit with me 
to see if we can figure out any work arounds.   As my company is currently 
exploring ways to enhance the system, and this may include using a different 
vendor's software, I'm curious as to experience of others on this list with 
training software at your workplace.  Have you been able to enroll in classes 
and/or take self-study online classes through a training portal?





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RE: gun shy about new laptop

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I'm also going to toss in that my Toshiba lasted just two years that completely 
died.  My husband's Toshiba is maybe 4 years old and the keyboard now won't 
work correctly -- something about the keyboard drivers not being compatible 
with the latest Windows updates.  I'm a bit nervous about the quality of 
Toshiba laptops.  Then again, a computer tech friend of mine says most laptops 
for personal use are not built to last more than a few years.  I miss having my 
desktops that easily lasted. 7-8 years or longer.  

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Jo Taliaferro via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 3:53 PM
To: Chris G; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: gun shy about new laptop

Hello, on a similar note, I have been reading up on to Sheba and some of the 
losses that have occurred because of various things like bad management, etc. 
How risky is it now, to buy a to Shiba computer for business purposes question 
does anyone have a clue after hearing Jonathan Moseman's podcast in November 
2016 question thank you, I have liked to Shiba in the past but wonder if I 
couldn't get a business computer and still have the portability that I like? 
Thank you so much.

Jo Taliaferro 

On Apr 12, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Chris G via Talk  
wrote:

Hi,
A couple years ago I purchased a Toshiba.
There were some thigs i liked.
1.  Toshiba had a  utility where I went in and turned off the function key 
myself.
2.  It has the 10 key number pad.
3.  it has the applications key.
Here is the link, you can get it refurbished for about  $350.00 It has windows 
8.1 on it but you should be able to install Windows 10.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00FOXJ9NM/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all




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 Original Message ----
From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, Apr 12, 2017 12:14 PM EST
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: gun shy about new laptop

Late last summer I got a new HP laptop.  The primary thing that drew me to it 
in the store was the keyboard layout of having the 10-key number pad on the 
right, yet only being a 15 inch screen.  What I did not realize until after I 
got it home and paid money for a tech to come help me set it up was two things. 
 First, it does not have the application key, which I have learned to get 
around with the Shift F10 keystroke. The bigger problem was the whole thing 
we've talked about with now having to push the FN key in order to get the 
function keys to work the way I want.  (I had not found someone who was 
comfortable going into the bios to help me see about changing this.)  The 
biggest problem Is that this function key thing also applies to the Insert key, 
as it is right next to the F12 key.  I've gotten pretty good at using the caps 
lock key instead, but this requires some real finger gymnastics to activate 
certain Window Eyes command.  Aside from all this, there is also some we 
  ird clicking thing that the keyboard occasionally does that is annoying. All 
this to say, it's not been a great experience and had I not invested in paying 
a tech to set up the computer for me, I probably would have quickly returned it 
to Costco for a refund or exchange.

So, I'm in a situation now where I may be giving this laptop to my sighted 
husband and getting a new one, but I'm gun-shy about how not to repeat this 
problem in my laptop selection.  I am not a heavy computer user at home, so did 
not want to spend much money, although I'm not looking for the cheapest netbook 
thing either.  I mainly looked at Best Buy and Costco, because I wanted to get 
my hands on the keyboard and feel the layout.  I like that Costco doubles the 
manufacturer's warranty and provides great, free help desk support for the 
computers purchased there.

Any advice from those of you having purchased computers lately on how to 
navigate this keyboard dilemma, especially if buying one online?  I'd really 
like to stay in the $500 range, if possible.

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager
Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
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RE: gun shy about new laptop

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

The FN key is usually next to the Windows Key to the left of the space bar.  My 
HP has 4 keys to the left of the spacebar, the alt key, the FN key, the Windows 
key and then the control key.  The FN key is used to change what the F1 through 
F12 keys do.  It used to be that you pressed this key with the appropriate 
function key in the top row to change screen brightness, volume and other such 
changes.  Now, because so few software programs use the top row function keys 
within the software, the computer manufacturers have defaulted the top row 
function keys to change the screen brightness and so forth and you have to 
press the FN key in order to trigger software specific actions.   Anyone who 
was a big WordPerfect 5.1 user will remember how many various actions could be 
done with pressing various function keys.  I recall having a little cheat sheet 
that sat on the keyboard above the function keys to remind sighted users of 
what each key did.  F7 to print, F5 to save, and so on. 
  Oh, I'm feeling nostalgic.  The menus and ribbons took away the need for most 
software programs to rely on function keys for various operations.







-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Linette Sukup via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 8:38 PM
To: bjn...@windstream.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: gun shy about new laptop



I have an HP Pavilion purchased nearly two years ago, and I have very few 
issues with it. Now, this may sound stupid, but where is this fn key that 
people are talking about. I thought that all of the top row of little keys were 
function keys.
Thank you.

Peace.
Linette



On 4/12/2017 1:35 PM, Brenda via Talk wrote:
> Hi robin,
>
> I have a similar story to yours.  I am now a casual home computer user 
> as I no longer do medical transcription.  I own a 15 inch Lenovo 
> laptop which I purchased last spring when my Win7 pc almost died.
>
>
> When I called Window-eyes Tech support to find out what to avoid with 
> laptops, I was not warned about the function keys being designated and 
> the need to press the FN key to overide the default uses.  Best buy 
> didn't tell me this eather until I had already paid for Geek Squad 
> service/set-up, and my laptop was ready to go home.
>
>
> fortunately, my laptop does have an application key.  Also, my numpad 
> has an insert key  as part of the numpad.  the numpad insert key is 
> very small, but it is there.  could you have this key without 
> realizing it (just a thought)?
>
>
> I still don't like having to use the FN key when i want to use the 
> Window-eyes copy & paste key F8 in some programs. It is a nuisance to 
> use the FN+fF6 key in Thunderbird as if you do it wrong it turns 
> airplane mode on and I lose my wifi connection.  F5 to refresh is the 
> only other function key I have to look out for, but these are not 
> Window-eyes command keys.  F1 is really tricky because it will mute 
> speech if the FN key is not pressed.  that being said, it is sometimes 
> convenient to have the system function keys for things like volume and 
> close down.
>
>
> I haven't used the laptop layout, but could that be a solution for now?
>
>
> My Lenovo laptop cost $350 at Best Buy.  It was discontinued shortly 
> after that, but it has what I need.  Lenovo could be an option for you.
>
>
> The only thing I like about laptops is that if the power goes out the 
> computer doesn't shut down.  My husband was able to revive my Win7 
> desktop, and I will use my Win7 desktop until it really dies and 
> forces me to become proficient with Win10 on a laptop, possibly with 
> the laptop layout for Window-eyes.
>
>
> sorry for lengthening a short ansre.  Just my thoughts on the subject.
>
>
> Brenda
>
> because I will use my Win7 desktop until it really dies.
>
>
>
>
> On 4/12/2017 12:14 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote:
>> Late last summer I got a new HP laptop.  The primary thing that drew 
>> me to it in the store was the keyboard layout of having the 10-key 
>> number pad on the right, yet only being a 15 inch screen.  What I did 
>> not realize until after I got it home and paid money for a tech to 
>> come help me set it up was two things.  First, it does not have the 
>> application key, which I have learned to get around with the Shift 
>> F10 keystroke.  The bigger problem was the whole thing we've talked 
>> about with now having to push the FN key in order to get the function 
>> keys to work the way I want.  (I had not found someone who was 
>> comfortable going into the bios to help me see about changing this.)  
>> The biggest problem Is that this function key thing also applies to 
&

RE: gun shy about new laptop

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I might think of that Chris.  My last computer was a Toshiba.  I just saw a 
news story that Toshiba may no longer be able to be a going concern, but they 
were working to sell of f and structure to stay viable.  I have never really 
considered the refurbished, but that may be a good option for me. 





-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris G via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 10:53 AM
To: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Subject: Re: gun shy about new laptop

Hi,
A couple years ago I purchased a Toshiba.
There were some thigs i liked.
1.  Toshiba had a  utility where I went in and turned off the function key 
myself.
2.  It has the 10 key number pad.
3.  it has the applications key.
Here is the link, you can get it refurbished for about  $350.00 It has windows 
8.1 on it but you should be able to install Windows 10.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00FOXJ9NM/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all




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 Original Message 
From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, Apr 12, 2017 12:14 PM EST
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: gun shy about new laptop

Late last summer I got a new HP laptop.  The primary thing that drew me to it 
in the store was the keyboard layout of having the 10-key number pad on the 
right, yet only being a 15 inch screen.  What I did not realize until after I 
got it home and paid money for a tech to come help me set it up was two things. 
 First, it does not have the application key, which I have learned to get 
around with the Shift F10 keystroke. 
The bigger problem was the whole thing we've talked about with now having to 
push the FN key in order to get the function keys to work the way I want.  (I 
had not found someone who was comfortable going into the bios to help me see 
about changing this.)  The biggest problem Is that this function key thing also 
applies to the Insert key, as it is right next to the F12 key.  I've gotten 
pretty good at using the caps lock key instead, but this requires some real 
finger gymnastics to activate certain Window Eyes command.  Aside from all 
this, there is also some we
   ird clicking thing that the keyboard occasionally does that is annoying. All 
this to say, it's not been a great experience and had I not invested in paying 
a tech to set up the computer for me, I probably would have quickly returned it 
to Costco for a refund or exchange.

So, I'm in a situation now where I may be giving this laptop to my sighted 
husband and getting a new one, but I'm gun-shy about how not to repeat this 
problem in my laptop selection.  I am not a heavy computer user at home, so did 
not want to spend much money, although I'm not looking for the cheapest netbook 
thing either.  I mainly looked at Best Buy and Costco, because I wanted to get 
my hands on the keyboard and feel the layout.  I like that Costco doubles the 
manufacturer's warranty and provides great, free help desk support for the 
computers purchased there.

Any advice from those of you having purchased computers lately on how to 
navigate this keyboard dilemma, especially if buying one online?  I'd really 
like to stay in the $500 range, if possible.

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager
Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
720-304-1060 | robin_van_l...@key.com



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gun shy about new laptop

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Late last summer I got a new HP laptop.  The primary thing that drew me to it 
in the store was the keyboard layout of having the 10-key number pad on the 
right, yet only being a 15 inch screen.  What I did not realize until after I 
got it home and paid money for a tech to come help me set it up was two things. 
 First, it does not have the application key, which I have learned to get 
around with the Shift F10 keystroke.  The bigger problem was the whole thing 
we've talked about with now having to push the FN key in order to get the 
function keys to work the way I want.  (I had not found someone who was 
comfortable going into the bios to help me see about changing this.)  The 
biggest problem Is that this function key thing also applies to the Insert key, 
as it is right next to the F12 key.  I've gotten pretty good at using the caps 
lock key instead, but this requires some real finger gymnastics to activate 
certain Window Eyes command.  Aside from all this, there is also some we
 ird clicking thing that the keyboard occasionally does that is annoying. All 
this to say, it's not been a great experience and had I not invested in paying 
a tech to set up the computer for me, I probably would have quickly returned it 
to Costco for a refund or exchange.

So, I'm in a situation now where I may be giving this laptop to my sighted 
husband and getting a new one, but I'm gun-shy about how not to repeat this 
problem in my laptop selection.  I am not a heavy computer user at home, so did 
not want to spend much money, although I'm not looking for the cheapest netbook 
thing either.  I mainly looked at Best Buy and Costco, because I wanted to get 
my hands on the keyboard and feel the layout.  I like that Costco doubles the 
manufacturer's warranty and provides great, free help desk support for the 
computers purchased there.

Any advice from those of you having purchased computers lately on how to 
navigate this keyboard dilemma, especially if buying one online?  I'd really 
like to stay in the $500 range, if possible.

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager
Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
720-304-1060 | robin_van_l...@key.com



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Re: Windows Media Player

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Yes I did record in mpg format. These are movies that I watched successfully on 
my old laptop but had also backed up to an external hard drive. I had one of 
those video to computer conversion kits. I do not recall if I ever tested the 
back up files on my previous laptop to in sure that what I moved to the 
external hard drive was copied correctly, I just assumed that it did as I have 
with all my other files.

Sent from my iPhone. Please forgive the dictation or typing errors.

> On Apr 3, 2017, at 7:43 PM, Nick Sarames  wrote:
> 
> I thought I had read that Media Player only plays CDs.
> 
>> On 4/3/2017 9:27 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
>> Hi Robin,
>> 
>> Perhaps you only recorded the sound.
>> Unless you patched a video cable from your VCR into the video port of a 
>> video capture card on your PC, then, that's all you would have recorded.
>> You would have had to record in MPG or WMV or another video file format as 
>> well. Sorry. (smile)
>> 
>> Hth,
>> 
>> Rod
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk
>> Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 5:40 PM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Windows Media Player
>> 
>> On my old Windows 7 laptop, I had copied some olfd VHS movies to my hard 
>> drive for my kids.  I would play them with Window Media Player.  I got a new 
>> Windows 10 laptop and copied the movies from my external backup hard drive 
>> to load them onto this new laptop.  I went to show my kids a movie as I had 
>> done previously, but they are telling me there is no video on Window Media 
>> Player, just sound.  Any ideas if there is some setting that needs to be 
>> tweaked?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager
>> Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
>> 720-304-1060 | robin_van_l...@key.com
>> 
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Windows Media Player

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

On my old Windows 7 laptop, I had copied some olfd VHS movies to my hard drive 
for my kids.  I would play them with Window Media Player.  I got a new Windows 
10 laptop and copied the movies from my external backup hard drive to load them 
onto this new laptop.  I went to show my kids a movie as I had done previously, 
but they are telling me there is no video on Window Media Player, just sound.  
Any ideas if there is some setting that needs to be tweaked?





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Amazon link?

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I used to use the m.amazon.com  but when I go to the main Amazon site, 
sometimes I hear Window Eyes say to click here to go the accessible site, which 
is different.  Then again, I can't seem to find this link when I want it, so I 
end up back to the m.amazon.com URL, which does not allow me to buy Kindle 
books.  Can someone please clarify the best URLs to use?Also, if I want to 
use Amazon Smiles, can I do so with the accessible version of Amazon after 
going to smile.amazon.com?  So confused.



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PDFs and F8 copy function and table navigation

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

In a PDF document where I can toggle browse mode on and off, should I be able 
to use the F8 copy method to grab text?  Also, should I be able to use the 
table navigation of caps lock and arrows to move around?  I was just trying 
both on a pdf file I'm helping another lister look at and neither are working.



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Anyone using the USAA Federal Savings Bank site for mobile banking?

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I'm curious how accessible it is as an alternative to what I'm using now.



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How do I turn off NVDA

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Window Eyes is my primary screen reader, but I have NVDA loaded as a backup.  I 
accidentally turned on NVDA, but cannot figure out how to turn it off so I can 
go back to Window Eyes.  Someone please remind me how to do this.  I'm not 
seeing NVDA in the system tray and cannot alt tab to it.





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RE: Opening a website from Google

[Robin via Talk]

I thought it was
CTRL + L
to Go To a WebSite
MyBad
At 05:39 PM 3/19/2017, you wrote:

Control-O sure works; you just need to type in the website and press
!!  Also, Control-L does work as well.

Sincerely,
Olusegun
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RE: capslock insert problem

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I only press the caps lock key once and hold it to hit the action key I want.  
For example, I hold the caps lock then hit the T key to hear the time.  I'm 
confused by you saying that you hit it twice.  I wonder if that is your issue?


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On Behalf Of anthony borg via Talk
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 2:44 PM
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Subject: capslock insert problem 

Hello all 

 

I wonder if anyone can help me, evrytime I press the capslock key twice to use 
it as an insert function, I noticed that isn't working. 

 

Can somebody explain to me what I should do to restore it back to normal 
please? 

 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

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RE: Outlook in Table View

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My guess is that you are not virtualizing your messages.  You can toggle this 
on by using  Alt + Shift + V when focused on the inbox.  Alternatively, if you 
go to the WE control panel and open the apps menu, the arrow down to the 
Outlook Enhance app, you should be able to check if the Message Virtualization 
Enabled option is checked.  



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On Behalf Of Debra Hill via Talk
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 5:12 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Outlook in Table View

Hi,

 

Is there a setting in which my Outlook messages should be changed?  I open the 
message and the messages are in a table mode with the many responses that are  
links. 

 

I have Windows 10/Outlook 2013/WE 9.54.

Thanks for any help and suggestions!

 

Deborah

 

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RE: How to save a PDF that is within a web page?

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Are you able to share the link?  I’m trying to imagine the situation. 



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Subject: How to save a PDF that is within a web page?

Hello,

Would someone please tell me how to save/download a PDF document which is 
within a web page? When I enter “save as” from the context menu while on the 
link, the option to save as a PDF is not shown. There are 2 choices, one of 
which is to save an HTML document. I had to get sighted assistance to do this 
using the mouse, but I’d like to be able to download such things independently.

Thanks,

Jan
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for those using a Braille display

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I do not use a Braille display, so I am curious about something.  Does the 
Braille display give you the same access that the speech synthesizer does, 
since, to my understanding, you have to be running a speech software to get 
Braille display support?  I was thinking about this as it relates to job 
accommodations.  I've always wondered how hard it would be to apply for jobs if 
you don't know whether the software applications the company uses are 
accessible.  That got me wondering if a Braille display might provide access to 
something on the screen that is not easy to navigate by speech, or if they 
really are equivalent.  When I think about some of the software we have here 
and how I could promote more roles for blind job seekers, I wonder what 
roadblocks exist.  For my role, I mainly use Microsoft Office, so I'm not using 
specialized business applications that many of my colleagues use.  Just 
something I've pondered for a while.

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RE: colors in Word 2007

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Carol,
Any chance you use the Windows High Contrast color scheme?  I do and I find 
that the font color can get messed up by that.  I would often have yellow font 
printing on white paper.  Chip Orange wrote a WE app for me that allows me to 
select all the text and tell it to be black in one shot, so I don't have to 
wonder before sending an email to executives or such.  



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On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 3:13 AM
To: Carol and Roger; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: colors in Word 2007

Hi,
Move to the text you want to see the color of and press control-numpad-delete.


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Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 4:56 PM
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Subject: colors in Word 2007

Hello.

I am currently trying to print a mailing label.  I don't think it is printing 
correctly.  I looked under the font settings and there is a button there which 
states that the color is white.  Shouldn't it be black if one is printing on 
white paper?  How do I know what color to choose and can someone tell me what I 
should do to make sure the color is actually black on a white sheet of paper?  
I looked at something that said black text, but it had numbers after it, and 
the numbers changed as I arrowed down.  The numbers were things like black text 
20, black text 15, etc.  Also, what does the automatic button do?  Thank you.

Carol


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Fix for WE not reading file type in Office Save As dialog box?

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Hi all,
I've been lazy about asking this question, but it's bugging me.  Running latest 
WE and Office 2010.  Is there a reason and fix to why WE does not read the 
combo box of file type choices in a save as dialog box?  I was just trying to 
change the file type on an Excel file that came to me in a different format and 
really had to bumble along to select the right choice.





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RE: Finding all Duplicates II

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I agree that the Excel function to remove duplicates would be my approach.  
I've used it several times recently on large data files.  As long as you are 
typing the numbers consistently, e.g., with the same punctuation, this will 
work.  Simply select all the numbers in your word document, then put your 
cursor in the first cell in a blank worksheet in Excel.  Hit Control V to paste 
and each number should get pasted as a new row in Excel. Then, go to the Data 
ribbon and tab over to Remove duplicates.  When you click on that, a dialog box 
will appear.  Tab through the options. By default, the single column with your 
phone numbers in it will be checked and you may need to check or uncheck the 
box for whether your data has a header row.  Hit OK and Excel will do the work 
for you, plus tell you how many rows were removed.  Just as an FYI for anyone 
curious, the dialog box allows you to select the columns so that, for example, 
if your data could have duplicates in column A that you w
 ant to remove, but you do not want it to filter any duplicates from column C, 
you can specify that.  

Pivot tables is another way I'd handle this, but that's pretty complex for 
explaining. 


Good luck.  Other than the typing of all those numbers, this sound like a fun 
research project to me, but I'm a geek for Excel sometimes. 



 

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On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 8:29 AM
To: A I Squared Support
Subject: Finding all Duplicates II

Good Morning,

Thanks for the several suggestions.  

Here's a bit more on what I am doing:

The Company's Voice Mail has been acting up for a couple of months now. 
Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.  And lately, it hasn't.  

So when customers call in, if all Customer Service people are busy, the caller 
should go to voice mail.  Well, they don't.  they just go away.  

The phone system does record all numbers calling in, so there is a list
of phone numbers.   But we have no way of knowing the name of the
customer calling, just their number.  And some people call every day, or 
multiple times per day.  So in the record there are going to be duplicates.  


--
And the crazy thing is that there is no way that anyone knows, as how to get 
this list of numbers out of the Phone Systems records.  

Now, I am sure there is a file some where on the systems storage, but those who 
know something about the phone system have no idea where that file would be, or 
what it would be called.  

So, the Boss has someone reading me these phone numbers out of the phone 
system.  I then have been typing them out in a Document, as in a long list.  

Just by hearing the numbers, I can tell when I hear a duplicate number, but 
this is not fool proof.  

So I have these phone numbers, in a Word File.  Hundreds of phone numbers, and 
I am to remove the duplicates, because the Boss intends for Customer Service to 
call all of these numbers back.  

The Company already looks like idiots since customers are not getting called 
back, and then to have the poor souls in Customer Service call a customer 
twice, three times or more, isn't going to look great either.  

So, I and another have been tasked with getting all of these numbers into a 
file, to be given to customer service, and with no duplicates.  

  Welcome to the Real World when it comes to problem solving.  

Butch's Sorting in DOS sounds like a possible solution.  I can save my document 
as a Text file.  I'll give this a try.

Since I have hundreds of numbers to weed through, I was trying to use the power 
of the computer to strip out the duplicates, rather than having me and this 
other person go through them one at a time and hoping to remove all duplicates. 
 

So thought I would ask the list here, since we have some smart folks here.  

Grumpy Dave


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RE: remind me please!

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Insert backslash


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Subject: remind me please!

Was wondering if anyone on list could remind me of the keystroke used in 
redrawing the screen?  THANKS Much! de

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RE: reading title when doing alt-tab

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

On the WE control Panel, look under Verbosity / Common / Activiated.  One you 
tab into the options, it's the third one and has a radio button for whether or 
not to announce the title. 



-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin.van.lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 12:23 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: reading title when doing alt-tab

Hi,

For some reason, after rebooting my system, I am no longer able to hear the 
title for the programs opened when I press alt-tab.  I can use the 
control-shift-t to get the title, but I must release the alt-tab to hear it and 
then do some fancy shuffling to move me to another title I haven't already 
checked.  Can someone please tell me how to turn the reading back on for the 
title bar?  Thank you.

Carol


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RE: Steve Clower

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

At the risk of being shot down, I'm curious for those of you who've switched 
from JAWS or still use it how it compares to Window Eyes.  When I first needed 
a screen reader and picked Window Eyes it was largely because I was told the 
customer service was so much better than for JAWS, and I truly was impressed 
how easy it was to reach someone at GW.  This list has been my larger source 
for WE help, but I've needed to call GW a few times over the years.  Let's say 
that VFO gives me a transfer to JAWS by some miracle.  Is that better than 
NVDA?   I guess if there is a group list this for NVDA users and some good 
sources for learning the program, I'll adjust to that, but so far I've found it 
very verbose and I don't know the ways to adjust it yet.  I completely 
understand that not having to pay for a screen reader is very tempting, but I 
don't want that to be my only reason for choosing a screen reader once I cannot 
use WE anymore.  




 

-Original Message-
From: Don H [mailto:lmdd...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 9:54 AM
To: Van Lant, Robin; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Steve Clower

Well I don't like change when it comes to my technology but knowing that WE has 
no long term future I have began the process of learning to use NVDA.  I must 
say I am very impressed with NVDA and am finding in many cases that NVDA works 
better than WE.  I do have two SMA's left and it will be interesting if they 
are honored in some way.  I would think a cash refund would be in order but 
having delt with FS in the past know it won't be handled in a way that benefits 
the user.

On 11/23/2016 10:46 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote:
> Well said, Grumpy Dave. I'm disappointed, but if a business can't make it, 
> they do what they can.  I unfortunately think I paid for an SMA and haven't 
> used it up, so I'm hoping VFO will give me some sort of credit for that if 
> I'm told to switch.  I've never used JAWS and only played with NVDA a tad.  I 
> don't like transition, so I hope we can support each other as users for as 
> long as possible.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
> Behalf Of Dave via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:11 PM
> To: Don H; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Steve Clower
>
> I don't think GW Micro sold its Customer's out.
>
> Cash Flow has been a problem for a while, and GW Micro started to sell
> future Upgrades to make up for the low Cash Flow.   JAWS does this, and
> I forget what they are called.   SMA's?
>
> Anyway, when you sell future upgrades at a discount, chances are that money 
> is going to pay today's Pay roll and Expenses, and when Tommorow comes, well 
> when tomorrow comes, and cash is still short, you start making Crazy Deals 
> with the Devil.
>
> Allowing a Free version to anyone owning a copy of MS Office was a
> questionable choice for GW Micro to do.   Perhaps they received a token
> Royalty from Microsoft for every Free Copy Registered.Hard to know,
> since no one is telling why that deal with Microsoft was done, and what
> GW Micro hoped to gain from it.Money of course, but how?
>
> I enjoyed dealing with the original cast of Characters at GW Micro.
> Good Mid-west values and I think they gave award winning effort when 
> producing their Screen Reader, and then supporting it after the sale.
>
> I doubt if GW Micro sold us out.  But, when a Company doesn't have the cash 
> to hire more talent to keep up with the latest Operating System, as well as 
> everything else GW Micro  was doing.
>
> Hard to really know what the Newest Parent Company intends.  This is one of 
> the problems when getting swallowed by a larger fish, which then
> gets swallowed by even a larger fish.   Communication is bad enough even
> within a small Company like GW Micro, but add a couple of extra layers and 
> it's a wonder that anything good gets out the door, or even done!
>
>
> Customers?  What Customers?   We have Customers?
>
> Grumpy Dave
>
>
>
>
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RE: Steve Clower

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Well said, Grumpy Dave. I'm disappointed, but if a business can't make it, they 
do what they can.  I unfortunately think I paid for an SMA and haven't used it 
up, so I'm hoping VFO will give me some sort of credit for that if I'm told to 
switch.  I've never used JAWS and only played with NVDA a tad.  I don't like 
transition, so I hope we can support each other as users for as long as 
possible.




-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:11 PM
To: Don H; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Steve Clower

I don't think GW Micro sold its Customer's out.

Cash Flow has been a problem for a while, and GW Micro started to sell
future Upgrades to make up for the low Cash Flow.   JAWS does this, and
I forget what they are called.   SMA's?  

Anyway, when you sell future upgrades at a discount, chances are that money is 
going to pay today's Pay roll and Expenses, and when Tommorow comes, well when 
tomorrow comes, and cash is still short, you start making Crazy Deals with the 
Devil.  

Allowing a Free version to anyone owning a copy of MS Office was a
questionable choice for GW Micro to do.   Perhaps they received a token
Royalty from Microsoft for every Free Copy Registered.Hard to know,
since no one is telling why that deal with Microsoft was done, and what
GW Micro hoped to gain from it.Money of course, but how?  

I enjoyed dealing with the original cast of Characters at GW Micro. 
Good Mid-west values and I think they gave award winning effort when producing 
their Screen Reader, and then supporting it after the sale.  

I doubt if GW Micro sold us out.  But, when a Company doesn't have the cash to 
hire more talent to keep up with the latest Operating System, as well as 
everything else GW Micro  was doing.  

Hard to really know what the Newest Parent Company intends.  This is one of the 
problems when getting swallowed by a larger fish, which then
gets swallowed by even a larger fish.   Communication is bad enough even
within a small Company like GW Micro, but add a couple of extra layers and it's 
a wonder that anything good gets out the door, or even done!  


Customers?  What Customers?   We have Customers?  

Grumpy Dave




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in IE 11, how do I get to open / save notification?

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

When downloading a file and the notification in the bottom right pops up asking 
whether to open or save, how do I get to that?  I've forgotten and it seems 
that just hitting Alt S or Alt O does not do the trick consistently.


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RE: having trouble with outlook on home computer

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

To show the Bcc field, open a new message to compose, Use Alt P to open the 
Options ribbon, then tab a few times until you hear Show Fields BCC. Hit enter 
on that button to make BCC fiels show.

For the other part of your question, it could be that you have Message 
Virtualization in Window Eyes enabled.  This is the best format if you get 
messages with fancy table formatting in the, such as from facebook.  However, 
if you want to disable it, you should be able to hit Shift Alt V while in your 
Outlook inbox.  We will say Message Virtualization enabled or disabled.  If you 
can't get the keystrokes to work, use control backslash to open the WE control 
Panel. Hit Alt A to open the apps menu and arrow down to Outlook Enhance. Arrow 
right to open the submenu, then down to Message Virtualization.  You want that 
unchecked. 



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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin.van.lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 7:25 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: having trouble with outlook on home computer

Have a  new computer at home with windows 10 home edition somehow  the mail is  
reading  like a web page and I can't fix it. Also need to select bcc field.

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voice message in skype

[Robin via Talk]

Does anyone on this list know of a quick key stroke to play a voice message
in skype.
many thanks.

Cheers Robin.
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Re: WE 9.5 Stopped reading Becky Email

[Robin via Talk]

try shift ctrl plus d
Cheers Robin.
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Hello,

I too recieved the Windows 10 update, and after it was finished, I have
noticed several things different, and that no longer work as they once
did.

the main issues so far is that my Becky Email program works as it should. 
I can grab emails sent to me, and I can write and send them.  The
problem is that WE 9.5 will not read the Body of the Text.

When opening an Email, I hear, "Veticle Edit" and then nothing.  Moving
the Arrows keys read nothing.  Moving the Mouse reads nothing. 
Attempting to read the entire screen reads nothing but the Menus and the
Titles of the Emails, but will not read the body of text.

I asked someone sighted and the text of the body is on screen, but WE
9.5 will not read it. 

Does anyone have a suggestion as what I can do to fix this?

I am using NVDA to read and write my Emails in Becky until I can figure
out or be shown a Fix.


Another thing, which has nothing to do with WE 9.5, is when I open my
Downlod Folder and I press F10, and arrow down to Send To-  

I press the Right Arrow, which opens Send To, and then I arrow down,
looking for the Flash drive that is plugged into one of the Systems USB
ports.  There are no drives listed.  

In fact, this Send To list is much shorter than before the Windows 10
Update.  


At this point, I do not know if this New Shorter list is the New
Imporovments that come with the new Windows 10, or if I have had a
slight Update malfunction.  

Anyone else have this problem?

Grumpy Dave



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OT: opticbook 3600 scanner

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Anyone on here have the Opticbook 3600 scanner?  I was using it for scanning 
books into Kurzweil 1000 a few years ago and had it working on my WE 8.1 
laptop, but cannot get my new Windows 10 laptop to recognize it when I insert 
the driver CD.  When I plug it into the USB port, it chimes as if Win 10 sees 
it, but it's not prompting me with a new hardware installation.  I went to 
Control panel to see if I could find it and there is a reference to a generic 
USB scanner , but when I try to run the driver CD, I get a pop up that says 
scanner cannot be found.  A web search I did for win 10 drivers gave me the 
impression that I should be able to use my old CD to get basic drivers 
installed.





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RE: reading e-mails in Outlook which appear in table format

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I think you accidentally turned off Message Virtualization, which is a function 
of the Outlook Enhance app.  You can turn this on with the hotkey of Control 
Shift V, or you can go to the Window eyes Control panel, open the apps menu, go 
to the outlook enhance app and be sure Enable Message Virtualization is checked 
on the submenu.  

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 2:55 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: reading e-mails in Outlook which appear in table format

I think I may have accidentally change some sort of setting as several e-mails 
in Outlook are now arriving in table format and are virtually impossible to 
read, unless I use the mouse.

I don't know what I've done but is there a work-around for such e-mails?

Alison

e-mails 

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Where to set all folders alike in Windows 10

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I've figured this out in the past, but cannot find it in Windows 10.  I've 
opened Windows Explorer, gotten the layout the way I want, but cannot find 
where to tell it to have all folders mirror the one I just did.  A hint please?



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new laptop keyboard issue

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I have an interesting challenge on my new HP laptop keyboard.  I realized 
before I bought it that it did not have an application key, but the discovery 
since buying it is that the Insert Key does not work as Insert unless I hit the 
FN key.  If I just hit the button alone, it's print screen.  The insert is just 
to the right of the F12 key.  I'm still looking for how I might be able to 
change the setting to not require the FN key to make any of the function keys 
and the insert work as I'd like, but wondering if anyone has any good 
suggestions in the meantime for WE commands where I want to use Insert without 
finger gymnastics to also hit the FN key.




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OT: issues setting up email account in outlook 2010

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Hi,
I'm about to jump off a cliff with trying to set up my new computer, 
particularly my email.  Running through my options now.  I had an IT support 
guy over last night and he wasn't making progress either.  This is a new 
Windows 10 machine.  I have an MSN email account I've had for years, but my 
internet service provider nor Microsoft will give me tech support other than to 
tell me to google the answer.  We got the email working on the mail app built 
into Windows 10 and I do recall at least one person on this list saying he 
found that app relatively accessible.  I haven't had a chance to play with it 
yet.  What I was trying to do that is to have my email working in my installed 
copy of Outlook 2010.   but whatever information we use for the incoming and 
outgoing servers and such is not being accepted.  So here are my questions:

1).  Are any of you using MSN email in Outlook 2010?  If so, what are your 
server settings?
2) For anyone who has set up a new email account in Outlook 2010 (or possible 
later versions) are you having any challenges getting the right information to 
set up the account, such as incoming and outgoing server names and some numbers 
that you have to put on the Advanced settings tab?
3) Does Thunderbird make this any easier?
4) I have an icloud email from my phone. Is that easy to set up in Outlook?

Seems like I used to be able to just enter the email and password and the email 
program would figure out the server connection information, much like when I 
set my email on my phone.  Just trying to figure out my options now to get this 
working.  Wasn't looking forward to the process of changing my email address, 
but it might be time to start fresh with a new account, if I can find one to 
set up in Outlook.




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RE: Just my thoughts on win 10

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Don,
Which version of Outlook were you using?  I'm just setting up my new laptop 
with Windows 10 and am wondering what Outlook is giving you issues, since I'm 
working on setting up mine. 


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:44 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Just my thoughts on win 10

Well, windows 10 version 1511 I think it was, worked not too bad.  I could get 
around pretty well.

 

With 1607, perhaps I will get used to it, but, right now I think it stinks.

 

Win eys does not work as well as it did in the previous version of windows 10.

 

Pressing start has made the apps go away and yes, there is a list of programmes 
but, not as good as actually seeing the apps listed clearily

Outlook does not work as well using win eyes

Certan is no great help unless you sign up with an account with micro soft and 
I am not goint to sell my sould to micro soft.

I don't like micro soft wanting me to use bing

I don't like dege and was fine with fire fox which I am now using

I don't like micro soft wanting to change my home page, which I have now fixed.

 

Guess I am a cry baby and want things to be nice and easy and like the song 
tomorrow,tomorrow.

Just a smile

Don

 

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about becky!

[Robin via Talk]

Is anyone using Becky if so would they know how to put the address book
in alphabetic order.
One other thing if you reply to some one is there a way to leave the
original message there, if you forward a message the original message
stays there.
Many thanks for any help.
Cheers Robin.   
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getting my new PC set up

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I started up my new Windows 10 laptop last night for the first time.  I have a 
couple questions, more out of curiosity, since I was able to get my sighted 
husband to read the screen to me.

* When I started the PC, it ran through a set of questions to set up 
the PC.  Should I have been able to use Narrator to read these had my husband 
not been there?

* Once I got the Win 10 desktop, I launched Narrator.  Seems like it 
took a few tries with Windows N, but it did start.  That helped me navigate the 
menus, but if I get a  dialog box, such as an installation dialog, I cannot 
figure out how to get Narrator to read the whole dialog so I know what the 
buttons mean.   Any idea?   I need to get Outlook set up so that I can get my 
email from AI Squared with the link to the latest WE version.  Turns out the 
most recent Window Eyes disk I have is 9.0 and I'm getting an error when I try 
to load it, so it must not be compatible with my Windows 10.  I'm in a bit of a 
snag here with not having a Window Eyes CD.

* During the set up process, I was asked for my Microsoft account 
information.  Since I have an MSN email address, I tried that information and 
it worked.  I guess that's fine. I figure it's nice to have a password aligned 
between email, the store and the cloud storage, should I use it.  But my 
normally don't put a password on my laptop because it doesn't leave the house.  
Should I be able to go into Win 10 settings somewhere and turn this off or 
change the password to something easier just for logging into my computer?  I 
want a strong password for my email, but not for logging into Windows at home.  
I like to be able to flip my computer on and either have it go straight to the 
desktop or quickly move back the log in screen.

Now here's hoping all goes smoothly with learning Windows 10 and getting my 
desktop set up.


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RE: jump to a unvisited link

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I wonder about how to define a hotkey for this.  Haven't tried it, but I've 
wanted a next unvisited link hotkey before.  Anyone tried to define U or such 
to so this?  


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On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:50 PM
To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: jump to a unvisited link

Hi Olusegun,

A minor correction, if you would permit, my friend. smile What was asked is how 
to jump to the previous or next unvisited link.
The keystrokes you offered navigate to the next or previous link, irrespective 
of whether it was visited or not.
The enquiry which was made surrounded the matter of whether there was a hot key 
to allow one to jump to links on a given page which had previously not been 
visited.
Thus far, Window-Eyes does not have such a hot key.

Respectfully,

Rod

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Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 6:56 AM
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Subject: RE: jump to a unvisited link

And yes, it has always had one:  Press the "l" key to skip from one link to 
another when scrolling from the top to the bottom; the Shift-L keystroke does 
the reverse.  If the link has been visited previously, use the letter "v" key 
if you are going from the top to the bottom of the screen, the Shift-V 
keystrokedoes the reverse!  

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado


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RE: Mouse keys?

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Reva,
I get the dings if I am trying to use the mouse pointer on my desktop view, but 
if I'm in Outlook or another program it seems to work.  I'm in your boat of 
trying to get more adept with the mouse keys as I lose more visions, but I do 
not use magnification.  What programs are you trying to use the mouse keys in?  
Might be able to help you see if it's something you can fix by starting with 
one or two of the things you are trying to accomplish or give you other ideas. 
 


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On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 9:27 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Mouse keys?

Ok, have a question. I've been trying to not use the physical mouse as much 
since at ginormous magnification it's more time consuming. I'm using zt fusion 
with we key layout but ran into this when i was using zt and we together as 
seperate products. When i try using the mouse keys, most of the time it just 
dings at me. Um, what am i doing wrong?

"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised night 
has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva
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RE: question re ms excell

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I haven't found how to do this in the menus or with a keyboard shortcut, but 
here's what I have found can work.  
1. Use Control Shift F to open the Window Eyes find dialog box, then type in 
the name of the sheet (for example "Sheet1" without the quotes) and hit enter. 
The mouse will route to the correct sheet tab along the bottom of the Excel 
window. 
2. Right mouse click with either the physical mouse or by hitting the right 
click button on the mouse navigation keys on the numpad - it's the asterisk key 
or the key just above the 9 on the numpad.  Hitting the the application context 
key or Shift F10 does not work because that opens the context menu for where 
the cursor is.  A menu will open once you mouse click. 
3. Rename is one of the options on the menu. Hit that option, then the text of 
the current sheet name will be pre-selected, so just starting to type will 
overwrite the current name. Hit enter when done.



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On Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:30 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: question re ms excell

Morning all:

 

 

Another question from my friend in Australia

 

Could you please ask the key strokes to rename a sheet in excel 2013

Thannks

Don

 

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RE: new laptop

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I have been looking at the HP models that are a 15 inch screen but also have 
the numpad.  Costco is having some good sales right now with back to school and 
I'm just debatin the price point of whether to go with an i3, i5 or i7 for the 
limited things I do on a laptop. Seems like for one pice point of $399, I was 
finding either an I3 processor with 8 GB RAM or an i5 with only 6 GB RAM.  Not 
sure what it would cost to upgrade the RAM.  I also like that Costco doubles 
the 1 year warranty and gives technical support.   


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On Behalf Of Rick Jarvis via Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 10:39 AM
To: hui thian; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: new laptop

You will probably want one that has a separate number pad so it is easier to 
use the mouse.  I think HP has some nice laptops.  Rick

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> Hi, kindly please advise the specification of a laptop I should get. 
> my xp system is giving problem so need to get advise of getting a 
> correct laptop. thanks Best Regards Hui Thian 
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RE: How to set computer to open folders in a list view

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There are two steps to this.  First, open Windows Explorer with Windows key  E. 
 Hit Alt, then V to open the View menu then arrow down the List and hit enter 
to select it.  
The second step is to tell Windows that you want all folders to display this 
way.  To do this, hit alt, then T to open the Tools menu, then arrow down to 
Folder Options.  Selecting this will open a dialog box.  Open the View tab in 
this dialog and then tab to the button labeled something like apply current 
view to all folders.  



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Subject: How to set computer to open folders in a list view

Members
How can I tell my win 7 home premium 64 bit computer to open all folders in a 
default list view.
Thanks
Jim

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If my laptop has a touchscreen

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Hi all,
As I look at new laptop choices, the off the shelf ones I'm seeing at local 
stores that are in my desired price range and specs also have touchscreens.  My 
recollection is that WE 9.4 does not yet have touch screen support, so my 
question is whether having a touch screen is problematic.  Any of you have one? 
 I do have limited vision and have wondered if I might be able to touch a 
button if I can't get my mouse where I want, but I don't know if this causes 
any issues for WE.  Or maybe  there is a way to turn off the touch screen?  I 
don't really want to pay for this feature, but it's seemingly more prevalent on 
laptops in the stores.
Robin

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RE: Window-Eyes and fractions

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Thank you!  I'm excited to try this modification to the character dictionary as 
I type all my recipes in Word and have been frustrated at how WE sometimes 
reads fractions and sometimes doesn't.




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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:25 AM
To: 'Sky Mundell'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes and fractions

Perhaps others may find this helpful as well, so I am sending this to the List.
Here is a link to a page with all kinds of math symbols.
http://symbolcodes.tlt.psu.edu/bylanguage/mathchart.html
There is a table that lists all the fractions from 1/4 to 7/8 as single 
character fractions.  I simply copied each one and added it to the character 
dictionary.
The Window-Eyes manual says:
The Character Dictionary
The character dictionary functions like the exception dictionary. The 
difference is that Window-Eyes uses the character dictionary to alter its 
pronunciation of any Unicode character, whether it is surrounded by other 
characters or is displayed alone on the screen. 
 
To add an entry to a Window-Eyes character dictionary: 
 
Press the Edit Dictionaries hot key, which is Control-Shift-E by default, to 
reach the dictionaries settings group in the Window-Eyes control panel. Or, 
press Control-Backslash, and press "D" until you reach the "Dictionaries"
settings group. 
 
Press the right arrow to expand the node. 
 
Press the down arrow until the Character option is selected. 
 
Tab to the "Original" edit box, and type the character whose pronunciation you 
want to change. If your mouse pointer was on a character when you pressed 
Control-Shift-E, then this box will already contain it. 
 
Tab to the "Replacement" edit box, and enter the text Window-Eyes should speak 
when it encounters the character. 
 
Tab to the "Update Entry" button, and press the Space Bar to add the newly 
defined character definition to the dictionary. 
You can Tab to the list of defined characters and remove either a single entry, 
or you can delete all character entries in the active dictionary at once. See 
the detailed explanation of the Window-Eyes control panel later in this user's 
guide for additional information about these controls. 
 
If you wish to define a character which cannot be typed from the keyboard, you 
can use an alternative method. For example, an Unicode 147 is often used as a 
quote symbol. But this character cannot easily be typed from the keyboard. You 
can use the following to make an entry for this character: 
 
/x147 
 
Simply start the entry with the Slash key followed by the Unicode value of the 
character you want to define. 
 
If the character was automatically placed in the original edit box because you 
pressed the Edit Dictionaries hot key with the mouse pointer sitting on the 
character, you will also have the option of associating the font of the 
character in question with the entry. That is, Window-Eyes will only voice the  
replacement text for the character if both the character name and font match 
what is stored in the dictionary.
My note:
By copying the fractions from the internet page I provided, you don't have to 
hunt for their codes.  
I have the dictionary set to global and I also have the math symbols set to 
dictionary only so that other symbols I've added will speak.
HTH.  And if I've left out something crucial in the way of instructions, I'm 
sure one of the knowledgeable Window-Eyes tech wizards will correct the above.  
Thunder is rumbling as I write so the computer must soon be shut down.
Rebecca
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[mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 12:22 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Window-Eyes and fractions

Hi list. Sky here. Yesterday, I was teaching a client of mine how to use 
Zoomtext Fusion, the product which bundles Window-Eyes in a single package with 
Zoomtext.  However, While we were teaching this client how to use MS word 2007 
with Fusion, We ran into a problem. When navigating around the document with 
fractions, Window-Eyes would not say ¼ when reading line by line, but it would 
say ¼ when reading word by word, or letter by letter. Is their a way we can set 
Fusion and Window-Eyes up so that it will read fractions? Thanks, Sky.

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RE: Trouble opening an attachment

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Paulette, I also wonder if this is an attachment you must go retrieve somewhere 
on a server.  That's how our company handle's secured attachments.  You have go 
and validate who you are an then you can obtain the attachment.  If this is 
being sent to you from someone in your company and you are opening on a company 
computer, I would not think that this is the case, but if the email is going or 
coming outside your company's firewall, then I think Cisco does have you 
retrieve it from a website.  If you are able to find the attachment using the 
Control Alt A hotkey, you might try saving the attachment to your desktop then 
opening it from there. Sometimes I find this works better than opening it 
within Outlook when there is something complicated about the attachment. 





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On Behalf Of Paulette Vickery via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 1:23 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Trouble opening an attachment

Hi all,

 

I just received a secured email attachment for my work. It is from Sisco 
services. It said that I needed to open the secured attachment. When I opened 
the attachment, speech stopped. What should I do? I pressed control alt w, to 
make Window Eyes talk again. That worked, but I couldn't get the attachment to 
read. Perhaps I opened the attachment incorrectly? When I opened it, I press 
control 7 twice. The attachment opened, I did hear the computer say logo, but 
nothing else. Is that the right way to open attachments in WE 9.4? Thanks in 
advance for your help.

 

Paulette

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RE: Printing MS Word Tables and Excel Workbooks

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Hi Tom,
Printing in Excel is similar to Word in that Control P will open the dialog.  I 
admit that I do try to use some of my remaining vision and so may not have all 
the answers on how to know if your table will fit on a single page. This is 
probably my biggest concern as I like to work in Excel and need to print things 
for meeting handouts and hope that I have it correct.  Happy to share what I 
can and to help think of ways to make this better.  My vision is decreasing, so 
I need to be figuring these things out anyway.  

The biggest thing that I like to do is to set the Print Area before I print so 
that I know I'm at least sending the right stuff to the printer.  You don't 
have to do this and I think this is what people mainly do when they only what 
to print a portion of the worksheet, but it's one of the safeguards I use to 
ensure that what I want printed will print.  Basically, you select the portion 
of the worksheet that you want to print, then go to the Page Layout ribbon.  
Navigate to the Print Area button, then select the Set Print Area option from 
the drop down menu.  You can also Clear Print Area if you need to remove the 
selection.   If you save this file, the selection will stay that way, so if 
it's a file you print, then update and print again, you won't have to select 
the print area again.   

What I struggle with is knowing if the file is fitting on the page.  I often 
have files with many columns for which I need to change the paper orientation 
to landscape.  I just don't know how to know without sight whether it's fitting 
on one page.  You can mark a checkbox, I think on the Print Setup, where you 
can specify to have the page shrunk to fit on one page or shrunk to fit the 
width, but this can make the print too small to be read on the print out.  

Best wishes.  




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On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Printing MS Word Tables and Excel Workbooks

I am using MS Word and Excel 2010. I anticipate creating more Excel worksheets 
and MS Word Tables in the future. I am familiar with printingin MS Word, but am 
looking for tips about printing the above-mentioned file types. I know this is 
not a Sindow-Eyes issue, so write me off list if you have any suggestions. Yes, 
I am aware of CathyAnne Murtha’s tutorials. They are very good, but don’t talk 
much about printing. 
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minimum system requirements for WE 9.4

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

Frustratingly, my fairly new laptop has irrepairably died and I need to get a 
new one much sooner than expected.  Since I didn't budget for a new one, I'm 
going low budget this time.  I was trying to find the minimum system 
requiremetns for WE and wasn't finding it on the site.  What do you all 
recommend as far as processor speed?  I've alsways been partial to intel, but 
is AMD Ok too?  I think my last laptop was an I5, but will I3 be OK?  How about 
RAM?   I've realized that the primary things on do on my home laptop are use 
basic Office programs, Quicken and internet browsing.  I also do have some 
videos that I project with an HDMI cable to our TV for my kids to watch.  So, I 
don't think I need a powerhouse computer - just something that will adequately 
run WE.  I do have Kurzweil 1000 and a scanner, but I probably only use that 
for scanning mail since I read most books on my phone now.   Would appreciate 
your input.  Hoping to stay under $500.



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Reminder dialog box in Outlook 2010

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

I'm using WE 9.4 on Windows 7 with Outlook 2010.  In Outlook, I regularly have 
the reminder window pop up to show a list of appointments and Tasks for which I 
asked Outlook to remind me.  When the window pops up, focus is on the first 
reminder in the list, which is the most recently displayed reminder.  I can tab 
or use accelerator keys to snooze, dismiss or open the reminder to see the 
actual invitation.  Where I have a frustration which I'm wondering about is 
this.  Let's say I open my Outlook and there are 3 appointments that Outlook 
reminds me about.  If I dismiss the first one, the list refreshes to remove it, 
but Window Eyes does not refresh to read the item now at the top of the list 
where focus is.  Of course, I can redraw the screen or alt-tab away and come 
back to it and it will read, but I'm wondering if there is anything else that I 
could do to have WE read this, much like WE will read the next message in my 
inbox after I've deleted the current one I'm on.


Robin Van Lant

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RE: Kronos Time system access

[Van Lant, Robin via Talk]

My update today is that the tech team was able to get me into the HTML version 
of the site for Kronos, but the problem is something with the corporate user 
authentication process.  They are hoping to get me clearance to use this login 
work around.  For now, I'm really glad to know the HTML version still works!  
The new version the rest of the company is using only allows me to click 
through some links on the top of the page.  If I move the physical mouse over 
the rest of the screen it will read some of the information, such as my 
employees' names, but arrowing down through the content and using the mouse 
pointer keys reads nothing.  


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin_van_lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 8:53 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Kronos Time system access 

At the Library of Congress we are using Chronos Web-TA. I think we are at 
version 3.8. But I just read today that we are switching to version 4.2 in a 
month, with a lot of cool features. I hope we can still use it. I'll believe it 
when I see it.
Good luck on getting your HTML access re-established. Hopefully this was just 
an oversight in the IT department and not something more systemic.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message-
From: Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 2:34 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Kronos Time system access

Hoping those 1 or 2 of you out there using Kronos Time keeper at your company 
will see this.  We've talked about access in the past to this time card system 
with WE. Until now, I've had access to a link into Kronos that provided an HTML 
based version of the time card.  All the rest of my colleague go into a Java 
based version that will not read at all with WE. 
Last weekend, Kronos did an update to our system and now my URL for the HTML 
version will not work.  I'm working through internal channels to find out if a 
new link to this HTML version still exists.  Are any of you experiencing 
something similar?  Maybe the upgrade was only done for my company's instance 
of the software, but I'm trying to arm myself with any other user information.

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Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance
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