[OSM-talk] iD news - v2.10.0 with OSM Notes and more

[Bryan Housel]

We released iD v2.10.0 last week!  


📝  OSM Notes  
You can now create, comment on, and resolve OpenStreetMap notes from within iD! 
 This work was done as part of Thomas Hervey's 2018 Google Summer of Code 
project, and you can read about it in his diary here:  
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Thomas_Hervey/diary/ 

Thanks Thomas Hervey and mentor Marc Farra!
Activate the OpenStreetMap notes layer by opening the Map Data pane (shortcut F)
Let’s close all the notes! 


🔧  Detach Node
We've added a new Detach Node operation to remove a tagged node from a way. 
Thanks @Psigio!
With a node selected, use the right-click edit menu to find the Detach command 
(shortcut E)


↗️  Resizable Photo Viewer
The photo viewer (Mapillary, OpenStreetCam, and Bing Streetside) is now 
resizable by dragging any of its edges.  Thanks Matias Volpe!
Try activating one of the streetlevel photo layers (shortcut F) and resizing 
the viewer.


As always, the update includes several other usability improvements and new 
presets - check out the changelog for all the details.

Changelog: 
v2.10.0 Changelog:  
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#2100 


Twitter:
v2.10.0 announcement:  https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/1022527242193252356 

OSM Notes: https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/1019021979117072386 

Detach Node:  https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/1021448718111985664 


State of the Map!!
I gave a lightning talk about iD at last week’s State of the Map conference in 
Milan!  ⚡️
So many features have shipped in the past year, I had to really race to get 
through it all.
You can watch it here:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn5VWd7C6_g&feature=youtu.be&t=2989 

Or share this Tweet:  https://twitter.com/bhousel/status/1023707520525901824 



Follow and star the iD project on GitHub to show your support:  
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD 
And follow me on Twitter https://twitter.com/bhousel 
 for the latest iD news. 

Thank you!
❤️ Bryan, and the rest of the 🆔 team.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing systems (Was: Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM)

[Steve Doerr]

On 03/08/2018 09:22, oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch wrote:
I just tried to create the 3-words address for a building in Odessa, 
Ukraine. The system suggested "dressings.cookies.brothers". It would 
be close to impossible to transmit these three words over the 
telephone to a local taxi dispatcher.


Some people may just not know English words well enough. The same 
about 8 English letters. But 8 Cyrillic letters may work. If the UTF8 
encoding is used in a database then both Latin and Cyrillic letters 
could be used, and, perhaps, other scripts.


You can set the language to Russian. This, I believe, gives the address 
as лотерея.русый.замок


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[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #419 2018-07-24-2018-07-30

[weeklyteam]

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 419,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10557/

Enjoy!

weeklyOSM? 
who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
where?: 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing systems (Was: Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM)

[oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch]

I understand what you mean and I share your view. I would like just to mention that the European civilization absorbed others' achievements massively.For example, corn ended for good famines in Europe. At the same time, it was the product of five thousand years selection effort by people of South America. Or Hindu-Arabic numerals, or coffee from Ethiopia, the list is very long.Perhaps, it is still possible to co-develop without interference. Perhaps, by creating the new open source address system, we get the feedback and improve our obsolete 18th century address system too.Best regards,OleksiySent from my Huawei Mobile___
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Re: [OSM-talk] Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM

[Barry Hunter]

On 1 August 2018 at 08:37, oleksiy.muzalyev wrote:

>
>
> At the same time it is possible to create 208 billion of 8-letter unique
> quasi-words with 26 letters of English alphabet (26 in the power of 8 =
> 208827064576). Even more if numbers are included. It's enough for all
> dwellings on Earth. It is easy to transmit a 8 letter word via telephone
> with ICAO Phonetic Alphabet [1].
>
> Then when we call in browser something like: osm.org/?address=hj3u878s or
> type the unique quasi-word into a search of of the OSM map: the distinctive
> geo-marker appears at the respective location with the additional
> information, such as entrance door code, apartment level, etc.
>

This sounds remarkably like geohash. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geohash

Algorithm is public domain, and not commercial .


Also
https://github.com/google/open-location-code/wiki/Evaluation-of-Location-Encoding-Systems
and https://xkcd.com/927/
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Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing systems (Was: Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM)

[_ dikkeknodel]

To me this is just another way of colonisation, forcing (technical) systems 
upon other people who have no say in them. They are communicated as a means to 
help people, but are mainly to make a buck in the end.

Instead we at OSM should leave it up to the people themselves to choose how to 
describe their location in a way they feel like, and provide a means to do so 
based on that. Technology should be designed to support people in their 
preferred way of life, not to force them to a way of life because that’s what 
most easily is implemented in technology.

Cheers,
dikkeknodel
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Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing systems (Was: Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM)

[oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch]

I just tried to create the 3-words address for a building in Odessa, Ukraine. The system suggested "dressings.cookies.brothers". It would be close to impossible  to transmit these three words over the telephone to a local taxi dispatcher.Some people may just not know English words well enough. The same about 8 English letters. But 8 Cyrillic letters may work. If the UTF8 encoding is used in a database then both Latin and Cyrillic letters could be used, and, perhaps, other scripts.The lattitude and longitude numbers will not reflect the apartment level, entrance lock code, name, and other information.The classic addresses are also somewhat outdated in this respect. For example, when I order a delivery, I must provide also the level and entrance code, otherwise a courrier will not be able to deliver an order.If the database is not big for 3-words, it would be even smaller for 8-letters approach. So, probably, it could fit on a mobile device, at least for one country or a region.Best regards,OleksiySent from my Huawei Mobile___
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[OSM-talk] Addressing systems (Was: Paper/Article about stagnation in OSM)

[Frederik Ramm]

Subject changed ;)

On 03.08.2018 08:41, Maarten Deen wrote:
> The extra penalty for What3words is that you also need an active
> internet connection (or a huge offline addressing database) to convert
> the three words to a location. 

...

> Is it easier and
> quicker for me to first open some app to try and find my 8 letter
> location or my 3 What3words, or is it easier and quicker to just read
> out my gps location?

I am certainly not a what3words fan (I hope this is obvious) but in the
service of truth I need to say two things for them: First, they claim
that their offline addressing database is actually not huge, but small
enough to use on most devices. The problem is not that the database is
huge, it's that the database is protected and they'll slap a takedown
notice on anyone using it without their agreement, e.g.
https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2016/2016-07-05-what3words.md.

Second, they claim that saying three natural language words on a
potentially low-quality radio or mobile phone connection leaves less
room for misreadings than dictating a string of numbers. They claim that
the dictionary has been curated in a way as to not have similar-sounding
words, a claim that, I believe, has been often ridiculed with examples
but I don't have any at hand right now.

Bye
Frederik

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