Re: [talk-au] Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0)

[Yuchen Pei]

On Wed, Dec 01 2021, Brendan Barnes wrote:

> Hey John,
>
> The Legal Eagles of the OSMF Licence Working Group continue to ask for
> explicit permission (ie waiver) for CC BY 4.0. The rationale is at
> https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/
>
> You can reach them via their contact details at
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group for any
> clarifications, but it appears they have already assessed the wording in CC BY
> 4.0.
>
> I know waivers can be difficult to obtain, and government entities may have
> internal red tape or few resources available to supply one to the OSM
> community. However it's in everyone's best interest, and once we have a
> waiver on file for the agencies' datasets, they are good to use
> indefinitely.

Also there are plenty of datasets for which waivers were obtained:

.

>
> ..Brendan
>
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 at 15:53, John Luan  wrote:
>
>  Hi Guys,
>
>  Had a look at this license
>  https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en
>
>  Do we really need a waiver from the data provider?  something like this
>  
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/1/17/AADC_CC-BY_Permission_JK_signed.pdf
>  
>
>  My feeling is that as long as we list the data provider on the contributor
>  list, it should be fine.
>
>  Regards,
>  John
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Yuchen

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Re: [talk-au] Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0)

[Simon Poole]

Just to clarify, the OSMF doesn't just requires the waiver because it is 
being difficult.


CC BY has fundamental issues that are widely ignored, the blog post is 
simply the diplomatic summary that we hammered out together with CC (it 
says so much in the text).


Simon

Am 01.12.2021 um 07:54 schrieb Brendan Barnes:

Hey John,

The Legal Eagles of the OSMF Licence Working Group continue to ask for 
explicit permission (ie waiver) for CC BY 4.0. The rationale is at 
https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/


You can reach them via their contact details at 
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group for any 
clarifications, but it appears they have already assessed the wording 
in CC BY 4.0.


I know waivers can be difficult to obtain, and government entities may 
have internal red tape or few resources available to supply one to the 
OSM community. However it's in everyone's best interest, and once we 
have a waiver on file for the agencies' datasets, they are good to use 
indefinitely.


..Brendan


On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 at 15:53, John Luan  wrote:

Hi Guys,

Had a look at this license
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en

Do we really need a waiver from the data provider? something like
this

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/1/17/AADC_CC-BY_Permission_JK_signed.pdf

My feeling is that as long as we list the data provider on the
contributor list, it should be fine.

Regards,
John
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Re: [talk-au] Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0)

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“This is a human-readable summary of (and not a substitute for) the license 
 .”

 

A) Read the actual license instead of an minimal infographic: 
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/legalcode

 

B) The waiver tells you exactly because of which clauses it is required.

 

From: John Luan  
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 14:48
To: OSM Aust Discussion List 
Subject: [talk-au] Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0)

 

Hi Guys,

 

Had a look at this license

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en

 

Do we really need a waiver from the data provider?  something like this 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/1/17/AADC_CC-BY_Permission_JK_signed.pdf

 

My feeling is that as long as we list the data provider on the contributor 
list, it should be fine.

 

Regards,

John

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Re: [talk-au] Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0)

[Brendan Barnes]

Hey John,

The Legal Eagles of the OSMF Licence Working Group continue to ask for
explicit permission (ie waiver) for CC BY 4.0. The rationale is at
https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/

You can reach them via their contact details at
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group for any
clarifications, but it appears they have already assessed the wording in CC
BY 4.0.

I know waivers can be difficult to obtain, and government entities may have
internal red tape or few resources available to supply one to the OSM
community. However it's in everyone's best interest, and once we have a
waiver on file for the agencies' datasets, they are good to use
indefinitely.

..Brendan


On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 at 15:53, John Luan  wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> Had a look at this license
> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/deed.en
>
> Do we really need a waiver from the data provider?  something like this
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/1/17/AADC_CC-BY_Permission_JK_signed.pdf
>
> My feeling is that as long as we list the data provider on the contributor
> list, it should be fine.
>
> Regards,
> John
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