Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

[Paul Johnson]

This actually is the Center of the Universe (
http://urbane-chaos.hubpages.com/hub/TulsaCenteroftheUniverse), it's
located in downtown Tulsa (http://osm.org/go/T4_e8jEsA?m=).  There's even a
festival there every summer
(http://centeroftheuniversefestival.com/).
 CBS even situated a comedy around it (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_the_Universe_(TV_series)).


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Clifford Snow wrote:

>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Nathan Mills  wrote:
>
>> Sorry, the center of the universe is in Tulsa on the pedestrian bridge
>> across the railroad tracks downtown.
>>
>> Also, Postgres tells me that the geographic center of the lower 48 is at
>> 39.5359,-99.1558 (ish)
>>
>
> That is only the center of the lower 48. Fremont is the actual center of
> the universe. See
> http://dakinecascadia.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/fremont-center-of-universe1.jpgfor
>  proof!
>
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

[Clifford Snow]

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Nathan Mills  wrote:

> Sorry, the center of the universe is in Tulsa on the pedestrian bridge
> across the railroad tracks downtown.
>
> Also, Postgres tells me that the geographic center of the lower 48 is at
> 39.5359,-99.1558 (ish)
>

That is only the center of the lower 48. Fremont is the actual center of
the universe. See
http://dakinecascadia.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/fremont-center-of-universe1.jpgfor
proof!


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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

[Richard Welty]

On 11/15/13 6:39 PM, Clifford Snow wrote:
> Just to remind everyone, we have a sign in the Fremont neighborhood of
> Seattle that claims it is the Center of the Universe. 
>
yeah, but i live a short distance away from a community with a sign
that proudly announces that it's the only Stephentown on earth.

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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

[Paul Johnson]

I got Caney and Coffeyville backwards.  They're roughly midway between
Coffeyville, KS and South Coffeyville, Oklahoma on US 169, IIRC (
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=129916#map=13/37.0054/-95.6294).  I
know when I saw them, they were surprisingly far south for what I thought.
 I strongly suspect KDOT has posted a number of conflicting landmarks
(similar albeit slightly less inconsistent situation would be ODOT's
posting of 45th Parallel signs, many of which, particularly in the desert,
are off by up to a mile, and likely posted in the wrong spot intentionally
to give tourists a spot to pull out and stop; you learn to hate the
tourists that stop at the accurate ones because they're putting you and the
rest of the public in danger, like this moron standing in the middle of I 5
near Keizer, Oregon: http://confluence.org/us/or/n45w123v7/pic2.jpg)


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Tod Fitch  wrote:

> If those KDOT signs are near Meades Ranch then they are likely correct.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meades_Ranch%2C_Kansas
>
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>
> Paul Johnson  wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, November 15, 2013, wrote:
>>
>>>  Seeing as how the “official” location of the lower 48’s centroid is in
>>> north-central Kansas, I’d have to dispute your claim that Tulsa is the
>>> closest major metro area. Looks to me that Lincoln, Nebraska would be the
>>> closest. There’s also Wichita, Omaha, Topeka, and Kansas City.
>>>
>>
>> Just going by the claims of some random KDOT sign along US 169 nearish
>> Caney, stating it's at the geographic center of the lower 48th.
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

[Paul Johnson]

Yeah, second this statement, I regularly take out of town guests to the
Center of the Universe, particularly if we're on a pub crawl and need a cab
(since there's few cabbies that don't know where the center of the universe
or the airport are).


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Nathan Mills  wrote:

> Sorry, the center of the universe is in Tulsa on the pedestrian bridge
> across the railroad tracks downtown.
>
> Also, Postgres tells me that the geographic center of the lower 48 is at
> 39.5359,-99.1558 (ish)
>
> Yours in precision,
> -Nathan
>
>
> Clifford Snow  wrote:
>>
>> Just to remind everyone, we have a sign in the Fremont neighborhood of
>> Seattle that claims it is the Center of the Universe.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, November 15, 2013, wrote:
>>>
  Seeing as how the “official” location of the lower 48’s centroid is
 in north-central Kansas, I’d have to dispute your claim that Tulsa is the
 closest major metro area. Looks to me that Lincoln, Nebraska would be the
 closest. There’s also Wichita, Omaha, Topeka, and Kansas City.

>>>
>>> Just going by the claims of some random KDOT sign along US 169 nearish
>>> Caney, stating it's at the geographic center of the lower 48th.
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

[Tod Fitch]

If those KDOT signs are near Meades Ranch then they are likely correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meades_Ranch%2C_Kansas

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Paul Johnson  wrote:
>On Friday, November 15, 2013, wrote:
>
>>  Seeing as how the “official” location of the lower 48’s centroid is
>in
>> north-central Kansas, I’d have to dispute your claim that Tulsa is
>the
>> closest major metro area. Looks to me that Lincoln, Nebraska would be
>the
>> closest. 😊 There’s also Wichita, Omaha, Topeka, and Kansas City.
>>
>
>Just going by the claims of some random KDOT sign along US 169 nearish
>Caney, stating it's at the geographic center of the lower 48th.
>
>
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

[Nathan Mills]

Sorry, the center of the universe is in Tulsa on the pedestrian bridge across 
the railroad tracks downtown. 

Also, Postgres tells me that the geographic center of the lower 48 is at 
39.5359,-99.1558 (ish)

Yours in precision,
-Nathan

Clifford Snow  wrote:
>Just to remind everyone, we have a sign in the Fremont neighborhood of
>Seattle that claims it is the Center of the Universe.
>
>
>On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Paul Johnson 
>wrote:
>
>> On Friday, November 15, 2013, wrote:
>>
>>>  Seeing as how the “official” location of the lower 48’s centroid is
>in
>>> north-central Kansas, I’d have to dispute your claim that Tulsa is
>the
>>> closest major metro area. Looks to me that Lincoln, Nebraska would
>be the
>>> closest. 😊 There’s also Wichita, Omaha, Topeka, and Kansas City.
>>>
>>
>> Just going by the claims of some random KDOT sign along US 169
>nearish
>> Caney, stating it's at the geographic center of the lower 48th.
>>
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

[Clifford Snow]

Just to remind everyone, we have a sign in the Fremont neighborhood of
Seattle that claims it is the Center of the Universe.


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Paul Johnson  wrote:

> On Friday, November 15, 2013, wrote:
>
>>  Seeing as how the “official” location of the lower 48’s centroid is in
>> north-central Kansas, I’d have to dispute your claim that Tulsa is the
>> closest major metro area. Looks to me that Lincoln, Nebraska would be the
>> closest. 😊 There’s also Wichita, Omaha, Topeka, and Kansas City.
>>
>
> Just going by the claims of some random KDOT sign along US 169 nearish
> Caney, stating it's at the geographic center of the lower 48th.
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

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On Friday, November 15, 2013, wrote:

>  Seeing as how the “official” location of the lower 48’s centroid is in
> north-central Kansas, I’d have to dispute your claim that Tulsa is the
> closest major metro area. Looks to me that Lincoln, Nebraska would be the
> closest. 😊 There’s also Wichita, Omaha, Topeka, and Kansas City.
>

Just going by the claims of some random KDOT sign along US 169 nearish
Caney, stating it's at the geographic center of the lower 48th.
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

[Jim McAndrew]

It would be nice to have the SOTM-US within driving distance from Denver,
but I enjoy the travel too. I'd suggest Philly if I wanted to get a bid
together, but I don't think I'll be doing that this year.

I would love to see some good bids this year, and hopefully if those bids
aren't selected, the information can be updated for next year's bidding.


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:28 AM,  wrote:

>  Seeing as how the “official” location of the lower 48’s centroid is in
> north-central Kansas, I’d have to dispute your claim that Tulsa is the
> closest major metro area. Looks to me that Lincoln, Nebraska would be the
> closest. 😊 There’s also Wichita, Omaha, Topeka, and Kansas City.
>
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> *Sent:* ‎Friday‎, ‎November‎ ‎15‎, ‎2013 ‎10‎:‎19‎ ‎AM
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> How about Tulsa, Oklahoma?  Closest major metro area to the lower 48's
> centroid.  Can't get much more heartland than that.
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

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Seeing as how the “official” location of the lower 48’s centroid is in 
north-central Kansas, I’d have to dispute your claim that Tulsa is the closest 
major metro area. Looks to me that Lincoln, Nebraska would be the closest. 😊 
There’s also Wichita, Omaha, Topeka, and Kansas City.






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How about Tulsa, Oklahoma?  Closest major metro area to the lower 48's 
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

[Paul Johnson]

Then that kind of eliminates everything but Oklahoma from the running.
 Most affordable state in the nation.

On Wednesday, November 13, 2013, Alex Barth wrote:

> Expenses for attendees are a concern in both places, we want to make sure
> SOTM-US is as inclusive as possible and this means folks with smaller
> budgets shouldn't be left out. We're running these numbers right now.
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Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014

[Paul Johnson]

How about Tulsa, Oklahoma?  Closest major metro area to the lower 48's
centroid.  Can't get much more heartland than that.

On Wednesday, November 13, 2013, Eric Theise wrote:

> No question DC could host SotM US in style, but I'd be thrilled to see
> it move to the heartland. Too big of a stretch for it to be in
> Chicago?
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