Re: Moving folders from one account to another

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Dear Ivan,

>  --->>> Ivan Pozdeev / Wednesday Wed  28. Aug 2013, 02:29 AM
> Moving folders from one account to another

> Thank you Rick and Ivan

>>> Yes, it is possible. Select the folder and then just Alt+click and
>>> drag it to where you want it.


> The  move  with  ALT  is  possible within an IMAP folder tree. But not
> outside that tree structure.

I can only drag an IMAP folder along its siblings, changing its
list position. I cannot actually move it into of out of another folder.

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Re: Moving folders from one account to another

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Hello Eddie,
>  
>> Can't  remember how to move a folder that contains sub-folders from one
>> account to another. Is it possible?

> Yes, it is possible. Select the folder and then just Alt+click and drag
> it to where you want it.

Here, this is only possible with a local (non-IMAP) folder and only
within one account. Maybe it is/was possible with POP accounts...

I believe this is too rare an operation for RIT to have implemented it.
You can recreate folder structure and drag letters there. Sorting
office rules can be cut'n'pasted too.

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Re: Reading confirmation prompt isn't shown when I delete the message

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> But in my case no reading confirmation is generated.

Hmm, this may be another issue. Is your Outbox an IMAP folder? Mine
isn't.


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Reading confirmation prompt isn't shown when I delete the message

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello TBBETA,

- set a box's reading confirmation settings to "put in outbox",
"prompt before the action"
- receive a message with reading confirmation
- select it, then delete it
=> reading confirmation prompt doesn't appear
- when you read the mesage and move to another, it does appear

Confirmations?

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Re: True Love

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Someone will have to approve you to join it - at least it used to be that way

Wasn't so in my case - just a usual register & e-mail confirmation.

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Re: CardDav Plugin

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Guten Morgen,


IP>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/api/thebat_plugin_api.zip
IP>> There's an AddressBook sample.

> I have no idea how to interpret this.

> There is a single file named "unAddressBook.pas", which I assume is 
> the source code for the AB demo. However, in this file no functions 
> mentioned in "CP-API.rtf" are referenced, such as TBP_GetName() and 
> TBP_GetStatus(), which the document states would be mandatory.

There's a directory named "Addressbook" in the archive. Its contents are a 
Delphi
project. The main file is AddressBook.dpr .

> When I generate a DLL myself that exports these two functions (the
> document states that the two would be the minimum required exports for
> any plugin) TheBat maintains "Could not initialize plugin".

> Has anyone around here ever written a plugin for TheBat?

Maybe https://hosting.0x539.de/mailman/listinfo/tbdev will be of some use.



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Virtual folder doesn't work until it's given an IMAP folder to scan

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello tbbeta,

While testing for Rick, I ran across another bug:

- create a virtual folder in IMAP account, specify only a local folder
fot it to scan (local Outbox in my case)
-> the folder doesn't work (shows nothing)
--> when I check an IMAP folder in scan list as well, it start working, and
--> continues working when I uncheck the IMAP folder.

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Re: 5.4 Parked messages deleted from virtual folders without warning

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> I use a common sent box (and trash) and so I can clean them all at
> once. I parked some sent messages for future resending
> When I cleaned out via the virtual folder, everything went including the 
> parked messages
> Confirmations anyone?
> Thanks

Confirmed. Regular "Delete" brings up confirmation dialog about parked
messages while "Empty the folder" doesn't.

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Re: CardDav Plugin

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> I'm currently looking into designing a plugin for TheBat to access a
> CardDav server. I believe I have a general idea about how to design 
> the plugin (what callbacks the plugin has to implement and so on), but
> so far I'm unclear about how to access TheBat's address book to enter 
> and/or sync the remote contacts.

> Before I fight my way through the document provided by RITlabs on 
> plugin developement - could someone point me in the right direction? 
> Specifically, what route do I take to access the address book?

http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/api/thebat_plugin_api.zip

CP-API.rtf gives an overview (you gonna need the the
TBP_SetCoreBridge() function ),
TheBatAPI.chm give a reference on data access API.

There's an AddressBook sample.

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Re: "INBOX" negative counter

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Dear all,

> I had this awkward IMAP error today. I noticed that in ALL MAILS I had
> a count of "1" unread mail despite all where read. Sorry wouldn't know
> how  to  reproduce  this  but  maybe  someone  of you folks got across
> something similar.
> Here the Log report:

Experiencibg the 1st one for some time, only at work computer - see
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/msg108444.html .

Noticed the error mentioned yesterday, it caused a disconnect.


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Re: Maintenance Center ERROR

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Dear all,

> When  doing folder maintenance on an IMAP account where one or several
> folders where empty, I got an error (see attachment). 
> Any confirmation?

Got same errors, they always appear after a line "0 broken
messages reported, 0 messages recovered"

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Re: Moving Folder into Folder

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: Moving Folder into Folder






Dear all,

I am always struggling when it comes to moving an existing folder into another folder. 
Any help please? Thanks!



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 Not with IMAP folders, I guess. The "move in" and "move out" commands seem to always be disabled for them.

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Re: CardDAV

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Alto Speckhardt wrote:

>> I seem to remember that there already was a discussion some time ago
>> about connecting TheBat to a remote contacts database using CardDAV.

> Yes a good idea! I would appreciate an implementation of CardDAV in 'The
> Bat!'.

> Also it will help, if there is a documention about the actual addressbook
> file-format about ABD-files. This will enhance the possibility of third
> party software to manage TB-addressbook data.


Plugins can now access TB's internal data. So it's only a matter of
time and effort to connect TB to anything.

However, the plugin interface specification is in Deplhi's include format
so one may have to dig for the undocumented details of the Deplhi's
proprietary ABI.

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"Stream write error" in status line but not in account log

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello TBBETA,

Just experienced subj - the status line said about this on some file
in TB appdata folder.
Since the message was trunctaed and the status line doesn't have any
tooltips, I can never even say which file it was.

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IMAP: recently received message isn't marked as read until I switch folders

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello Tbbeta,

Experiencing subj for some time. This only applies to freshly arrived messages -
perhaps until the body is downloaded. This might be relevant: I
generally view new mail through a virtual folder that combines Inbox
and Sent (both at IMAP).

Any1 experiencig anything like this?

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Re: 5.3.8.5 - IMAP incoming filtering still broken

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Hello Peter,

> Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 5:41:45 PM, you wrote:

>> Tony,

>> IMAP filters have been broken for 2-3 years. I think Ritlabs have given up. 
>> I have
>> decided that I will not upgrade unless this is fixed. Nobody from Ritlabs 
>> have
>> contacted any on the people on this list with issues to try an fix the 
>> problem.

>> Either they have decided that it's a bad business decision to fix it - or 
>> they are
>> simply unable to. I have been using TB since some 1.x (maybe 2.x) version 
>> but this
>> inability to meet my needs (and their quality control) make any coming 
>> version not
>> interesting for me.

> It is depressing. They were working fine at one point until a recent
> beta. That beta did something permanent so that even going back quite
> a number of versions the filters are permanently broken.

> Apparently it doesn't rate as highly as dates failing before 1601. :-(

> On the plus side, my backup procedure is 10x better now that I'm using
> rsync so that I have a snapshot twice a day.

There's little they can do without being able to reproduce the problem.
Since only a few people w/o any specific setup experience this, it's
most probably a DB corruption issue.
(on the other hand, the fact that we can't diagnose/fix this ourselves
comes from the closeness of their DB format)


I suggest you to send them your base and/or recreate it from scratch.
Filters can be exported, a backup/wipe/restore might do the
trick too.

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Re: 5.3.8.5

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> On Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 10:16:02 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

>> The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) is available at
>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5385.rar

> after  exiting  TB! to copy extracted file, had to kill thebat process
> before could copy. this is not the first time I've had to do this.

I experience this too from time to time but typically it just takes TB
some time to shut down.

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Re: 5.3.8.5

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> The Bat! 5.3.8.5 (BETA) is available at
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5385.rar

> What's new in 5.3.8.5 since 5.3.8.4:
> [+] PluginAPI. Message tags can be manipulated
> [*] Some cosmetics fixes in form TlsTrust.dfm
> [-] Date decoding can fail if specified date is before January 1, 1601 (UTC)
> [-] Sometimes messages from closed password protected account are
> shown in Mail Ticker and can be viewed when double-clicked. To
> workaround this issue ask password.

PluginAPI to access data? Now that's interesting. I thought there's
only API to implement AV and spam checks.

How is it to be accessed? TBPInterface.pas from
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/api/thebat_plugin_api.zip
seems to declare a COM-based interface but I don't see any CLSIDs or
relevant registrations in registry.


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Re: 5.3.8.4 (BETA) AV deleting tabs

[Ivan Pozdeev]

R>>> FIXED
R>>> 155: 5.3.8.4 Error deleting tabs
R>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=155

R>> OOPS spoke too quickly. The AV came back

> It seems that if you are finished with a tab, go to another tab and
> then close the tab created from the search box. All will be fine. If
> you close that tab you created while still focused on it - it gives
> the AV. This is fairly new behavior
> Confirmations anyone? 


Can't confirm on XP.

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Re: 5.3.8.4 (BETA)

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> I am having some issues with the maintenance center. It seems to
> stop after checking for duplicates
> Confirmations anyone?

WFM (IMAP - Zimbra).

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Re: IMAP Timeout

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> It seems to, thanks. At least for me. :-)

Me too.

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Re: 5.3.8.2 - IMAP disconnects

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Hello Maxim,

>> The Bat! 5.3.8.2 (BETA) is available at
>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb5382.rar

>> [-] Timeout in account settings wasn't used for IMAP connection

> Looks like the timeout is working :-(

> All these exceptions in the space of a few seconds. I have many
> connections but I just can't tell which IMAP server is timing out.

> Please do add some info so we can determine which connection (and
> server type?) has the problem.

> v5.3.8.2 (BETA) SILVER/Tony 21/02/2013 17:31:35.203 IMAP_Cmp:7
> EImapUnexpectedSocketTimeout The server didn't send us anything in 1
> minutes amid the duration of the IDLE command
> v5.3.8.2 (BETA) SILVER/Tony 21/02/2013 17:31:35.546 IMAP_Cmp:7
> EImapUnexpectedSocketTimeout The server didn't send us anything in 1
> minutes amid the duration of the IDLE command
> ...

I'm getting the same errors, after which IMAP disconnects.


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21:29:17.250 Language:File does not 
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Bat!\thebat.LNG)

v5.3.8.2 (BETA) IRU-NOTEBOOK/User 
21.02.2013 21:34:58.937 Language:File 
does not exist (C:\Program Files\The 
Bat!\thebat.LNG)

v5.3.8.2 (BETA) IRU-NOTEBOOK/User 
21.02.2013 21:37:20.578 IMAP_Cmp:7 
EImapUnexpectedSocketTimeout The server 
didn't send us anything in 1 minutes 
amid the duration of the IDLE command

v5.3.8.2 (BETA) IRU-NOTEBOOK/User 
21.02.2013 21:37:23.000 IMAP_Cmp:7 
EImapUnexpectedSocketTimeout The server 
didn't send us anything in 1 minutes 
amid the duration of the IDLE command

v5.3.8.2 (BETA) IRU-NOTEBOOK/User 
21.02.2013 21:37:24.046 IMAP_Cmp:7 
EImapUnexpectedSocketTimeout The server 
didn't send us anything in 1 minutes 
amid the duration of the IDLE command

v5.3.8.2 (BETA) IRU-NOTEBOOK/User 
21.02.2013 21:41:28.468 IMAP_Cmp:7 
EImapUnexpectedSocketTimeout The server 
didn't send us anything in 1 minutes 
amid the duration of the IDLE command

v5.3.8.2 (BETA) IRU-NOTEBOOK/User 
21.02.2013 21:43:29.859 IMAP_Cmp:7 
EImapUnexpectedSocketTimeout The server 
didn't send us anything in 1 minutes 
amid the duration of the IDLE command

v5.3.8.2 (BETA) IRU-NOTEBOOK/User 
21.02.2013 21:46:00.296 IMAP_Cmp:7 
EImapUnexpectedSocketTimeout The server 
didn't send us anything in 1 minutes 
amid the duration of the IDLE command

v5.3.8.2 (BETA) IRU-NOTEBOOK/User 
21.02.2013 21:46:03.796 IMAP_Cmp:7 
EImapUnexpectedSocketTimeout The server 
didn't send us anything in 1 minutes 
amid the duration of the IDLE command

v5.3.8.2 (BETA) IRU-NOTEBOOK/User 
21.02.2013 21:48:05.031 IMAP_Cmp:7 
EImapUnexpectedSocketTimeout The server 
didn't send us anything in 1 minutes 
amid the duration of the IDLE command

v5.3.8.2 (BETA) IRU-NOTEBOOK/User 
21.02.2013 21:52:26.109 IMAP_Cmp:7 
EImapUnexpectedSocketTimeout The server 
didn't send us anything in 1 minutes 
amid the duration of the IDLE command

v5.3.8.2 (BETA) IRU-NOTEBOOK/User 
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Re: Printing White Text

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Thomas,

> Wednesday, February 6, 2013, 10:59:17 AM, you wrote:

TF>> What if I want to print in white, because the
TF>> paper I use is black?

> Interesting.  You have a VERY rare printer... 
> But you also have a point.

TF>> No, I don't think the software should be second-guessing what colour I
TF>> would like better than the one coded into the HTML email, I think it
TF>> should print the colour exactly as in the email. (But then, I also
TF>> believe that emails should not be in white colour.)

> I was just hoping for something approaching HTML printing
> consistency, so that we could rely on things to print the
> same whether printed from a browser or an email program.
> All of the browsers I tried (Firefox, Chrome, IE and Opera)
> printed the white text as black and did not print the
> background colors (using the default settings.)

> A few years ago I found the setting to tell one of the
> browsers (probably Firefox, but I'm not positive) to print
> background colors and then it DID attempt to print the
> text in white -- but since my color printer has no white
> ink, that didn't work any better than printing white on white.
> For most of us, the print job needs to be rendered as a full
> page bitmap and then printed so that the "white" places are
> simply not printed at all.  Some printers can probably handle
> that themselves, but I doubt it is a generally available
> feature.

TF>> If a "smart" printing module is introduced, please make it optional,
TF>> so I can turn it off.

> I agree with that completely.  I never like being forced to
> do something the programmer's favorite way when alternate
> options are available.  Since the current code obviously
> already exists, what I'm hoping for could be a new option
> (possibly even an optional add-on/plug-in?)

There's too small a niche for such an uncommon task so TB guys will
definitely not implement this. The polygraphy folk who do this on a regular
basis print everything as pictures - which is my suggested way for you
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Re: Printing White Text

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Like my browsers, TB! does not print background colors or images
> when it prints HTML formatted messages.  Unfortunately, unlike
> my browsers, TB! doesn't seem to be smart enough to print WHITE
> text as BLACK when it does this.  As a result, an email I printed
> today was almost entirely blank because the moron who sent it
> assumed that it would print the way a normal browser would print
> it (I assume.)

> It may be that I'm just not smart enough to find the appropriate
> setting in TB! and if that is true, PLEASE tell me where I tell
> TB! to render WHITE HTML text as BLACK.  I also didn't find an
> option to tell TB! to print the background color or image, either,
> which could make the white text visible by wasting lots of ink
> and/or toner.

> However, if TB! doesn't support these settings, I'd like to make
> a request that there is at least an option to render WHITE text
> as BLACK when printing.

You can change the color of printout's background manually by creating
and customizing a viewer profile in preferences->profile layout and
selecting it in print setup.
But that's a workaround, of course.

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Re: preview pane

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> My  preview pane has vanished. I have not been able to get it back. i 
> generally run with a full height account tree, and read my mail in the
> preview pane. Suddenly it has vanished. I've tried switching  to full 
> height  preview  on the right, and on the left, as well as full width 
> preview  pane. It doesn't appear an any of those choice. I don't find 
> anything I can grab and drag to get it back.
>   

Workspace->Message Auto-view

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Re: Printing White Text

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Like my browsers, TB! does not print background colors or images
> when it prints HTML formatted messages.  Unfortunately, unlike
> my browsers, TB! doesn't seem to be smart enough to print WHITE
> text as BLACK when it does this.  As a result, an email I printed
> today was almost entirely blank because the moron who sent it
> assumed that it would print the way a normal browser would print
> it (I assume.)

> It may be that I'm just not smart enough to find the appropriate
> setting in TB! and if that is true, PLEASE tell me where I tell
> TB! to render WHITE HTML text as BLACK.  I also didn't find an
> option to tell TB! to print the background color or image, either,
> which could make the white text visible by wasting lots of ink
> and/or toner.

> However, if TB! doesn't support these settings, I'd like to make
> a request that there is at least an option to render WHITE text
> as BLACK when printing.

Printout contents is governed by the print template (Message->Print
setup...->Template). There, the text is inserted with the %TEXT macro.
How this macro extracts text from and HTML message is internal
details since it doesn't have any parameters of flavors.

This particular case and the general case of not printing backgrounds
is worth filing a bug IMO.

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Re: Checking arrival

[Ivan Pozdeev]

I send mail between my two addresses for this kind of test.

>  
>  Dear all,
>  
>  Test - pls tell me if it arrives - thanks!
>  
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Re: Gmail IMAP not deleting contents of "All Mail" folder

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Each time I delete a message from "All Mail" GMail IMAP folder, it keeps 
> undeleting itself.

> To reproduce the bug: 
> 1. go to GMail - All Mail 
> 2. delete a message 
> 3. wait a few seconds 
> 4. press ESC a few times - the delete message show up 

> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=141


Why press ESC? This may be a cancel command.

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Re: Heather autoview

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Just random flame, I'd ignore it.

> Hallo michel,

> On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 17:37:21 +0100GMT (22-12-2012, 17:37 , where I
> live), you wrote:
<...>

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Re: Incoming message filtering stopped working??

[Ivan Pozdeev]

>  
>  None of the tbbeta messages are being filtered into my dedicated
> folder. If I manually refilter the inbox - they move - but not automatically. 
> Anyone confirm?
>  
>  ---
>  Thx
>  Graham
>  Message reply created with The Bat! 5.3.6.0 (Christmas Edition)
>  under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1-

WFM.

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Re: Unknown CA Certificate

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Please support this wish at
> [Wish] Ability to inspect and add unknown SSL certificates to Root CA
> in addressbook 

Are you really sure the flashmob in the ticket is the way to go?
(Well, the result will tell anyway)

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Re: Unknown CA Certificate

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Hi

> On Saturday, December 15, 2012 8:42:45 PM you wrote:

>> The solution for this problem was published on the German board 
>> www.batboard.net :

>> http://www.batboard.net/board5-therapiepl-tze/board109-therapieplatz-version-5-x/p108317-za-zertifikat-fehlermeldung-mit-hotmail/#post108317

>> Just have a look.

> Yes, fixed -  thanks a lot.

Despite this, the issue remains - the error message is most unhelpful.
It should allow to view the provided certificate at least to see
what's wrong with it.

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Re: Splash Screen

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Hello MAU!

> On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 at 12:07:40 PM you wrote:

>> There may be some logic in not showing the splash screen when
>> starting TB minimised. So, I'm afraid that if you want to see the logo
>> you will also have to remove the /minimise parameter.

> Perhaps not so much logic but a bug nobody noticed, yet, for obvious
> reasons.

It's questionable whether the splash screen should be present with
/minimize option. The option is meant to make TB start quietly without
bothering the user.

> Well, I did remove that, too, and for a split-second saw the splash
> screen pop up and go under. My computer is too fast for it to be
> actually seen. Sad.

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Re: Memory usage - TB vs Thunderbird 17.0

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> TB only uses 30 MB of memory and Thunderbird uses 144 MB of memory.
> Very interesting (even if I don't understand where the difference
> comes from). Ritlabs is doing something very efficiently! As always,
> thanks to the Ritlabs team for this excellent work.

Thunderbird is a multi-layered entity. There's a basic engine with an
interpreter and a plethora of XUL logic on top of it run by that
engine. This adds a great deal of flexibility and customizability - at
the cost of speed and resources.

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Re: FR: a macro for software edition

[Ivan Pozdeev]

>Who cares about if TB Home or TB Prof is used... It would unnecessarily 
>increase the code.

The participants of this list do.

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FR: a macro for software edition

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello ,

See my signature. I use "Home" and don't specify this since this would
be hard-coding. Omitting this already caused a misunderstanding in one
case.

Something like %SOFTWARENAME expanding to "The Bat! Pro"/"The Bat!
Home Edition" of %SOFTWAREEDITION (the name part is unlikely to be
different ;) ) would solve this.

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Re: Alignment does not work properly in MicroEd

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Confirmed.
> * This seems to happen if the 1st line of a paragraph isn't
> exactly 70 chars.

Whoops. If the _LONGEST_ line in a paragraph isn't exactly 70 chars
(or whatever the wrap limit is set to).

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Re: Alignment does not work properly in MicroEd

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Hello,

> I found some issues with MicroEd writing text mails.

> A) Align Left does not work as expected.

> 1. Write one Line of Text
> 2. Set cursor in line
> 3. Hit Alt R for Alignment Right
> 4. Hit Alt L for Alignment Left
> 5. Text does not start at first column!

Confirmed.
* This seems to happen if the 1st line of a paragraph isn't
exactly 70 chars. Looks like on applying left align, TB considers
the paragraph to have an indent equal to the minimum distance before
the left edge and any of its lines.
If there's only one line, Alt-L does nothing for this reason.

Unchecking "Auto Indent" in Preferences->Editor preferences disables
this heuristics.

IMO this logic is quite controversial and it's better to remove it
and add indent/outdent functions instead, only leaving the current
behaviour for auto-wrapping while typing/pressing enter.

> B) Alignment removes newlines

> 1. Write some consecutive paragraphs
> 2. Set cursor in paragraph
> 3. Hit Alt R
> 4. The Newline at lineending is removed and the lines get concatenated
> to one

> Can you confirm these problems?

Couldn't reproduce. Seems like some other conditions need to stand as
well.


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Sent mail is processed by _incoming_ filters if Sent folder is on IMAP

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello Tbbeta,

Subj. The letter I _send_ is moved by an _incoming_ filter to the same
Inbox subfolder! If I move it back by hand, it's relocated again!

Confirmations?

Yes, I surmise that my filters have "all folders" set but... should
this apply to the Sent folder too? There are "sent" filters for that!

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Re: Some Incredimail emails do not display the font correctly

[Ivan Pozdeev]

IP>>  Then I added that "if the font is NOT installed", the text renders 
correctly.
IP>>  Which makes it pretty obvious that in this case, some other font is used 
instead.

> I installed the font and nothing showed. I unistalled and rebooted and
> I am back to glyphs

Beats me, it should be just the reverse, WITHOUT the font the text
should be fine.

IP>>  Taking all this into account, a request for a "font substitution
IP>> feature" looks somewhat... strange.

> It  can be done in Windows - there are instructions out there - I just
> need to find the ones for the XP registry

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\FontSubstitutes
The section goes back to as early as Windows 3.x (was a win.ini section).
Its entries are like:
","=","
or
""=""

"Charset IDs" used here are discussed well at
http://www.webcenter.ru/~kazarn/eng/fonts_ttf.htm#ttcharset .
The number assignment convention is truly something.


IP>>  The most amazing thing, however, is that Stefan, an IT
IP>> specialist, read it just the same way!
IP>>  Am I missing something or what?
IP>>  
IP>>  P.S. the language was actually Thaana, this was a typo on my part.

> Yes, but it DOES supposedly display the western characters
On my machine, it shows squares for the test pangram when
double-clicked in the fonts folder.

> This  is  a  beta group, I just started having the issue with the last
> beta. So I asked in here. I don't think that was at all out of line




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Re: Some Incredimail emails do not display the font correctly

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: Some Incredimail emails do not display the font correctly


https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=122#c222 .

Sometimes, I wonder if my peers *actually read* the comments they reply
to.

I said that "the font hasn't glyphs for latin letters" (and everyone
knows that square is a placeholder glyph shown when a font
hasn't a glyph for a character).
Then I added that "if the font is NOT installed", the text renders correctly.
Which makes it pretty obvious that in this case, some other font is used instead.

Taking all this into account, a request for a "font substitution feature" looks somewhat... strange.


The most amazing thing, however, is that Stefan, an IT specialist, read it just the same way!
Am I missing something or what?

P.S. the language was actually Thaana, this was a typo on my part.

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Re: Some Incredimail emails do not display the font correctly

[Ivan Pozdeev]

>>It seems the fonts are not rendered correctly nor are they substituted. The 
>>mail reads correctly in the text viewer. File attached in bug tracker 
>>https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=122

> And before someone else says it YES Incredimail is a piece of crap.
> However it has a following  and the emails are not always interpreted 
> correctly

The issue was resolved and it doesn't have anything to do with
Incredimail or TB:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=122#c222 .

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Re: Source View: Message-ID sometimes to colored correctly

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> It probably comes from older RFC822 which says that Message-ID is addr-spec 
> surrounded by <>.

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=121

Whether they will pay attention to this sometime of not, let it be
there.

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Re: Source View: Message-ID sometimes to colored correctly

[Ivan Pozdeev]

>> Hello Vilius,
>> >> Message-ID: > >> 1352796933847@3capp-webde-bs49>
>> 
>> > That's because it is invalid ID. It doesn't conform to RFC822 
>> > specification.
>> 
>> You probably wouldn't volunteer to elaborate as to exactly what is wrong
>> with it right away
>> without being asked explicitly? :)

> Message-ID should follow a subset of email specification, e.i. it
> must contain @ and FQDN parts. And this ID obviously doesn't.

FQDN usage isn't required but recommended.
(in both http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-3.6.4 and the
newer http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5322#section-3.6.4).
Ritlabs folk might've not paid attention to such tiny details though.

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Re: Source View: Message-ID sometimes to colored correctly

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Hello Vilius,
>>> Message-ID: >> 1352796933847@3capp-webde-bs49>

>> That's because it is invalid ID. It doesn't conform to RFC822 specification.

> You probably wouldn't volunteer to elaborate as to exactly what is wrong with 
> it right away
> without being asked explicitly? :)

I'd like to hear this too.
There are no violations of
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822#section-3.6.4 (3.6.4.
Identification fields) AFAICS.

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Re: Forwarding multiple messages to one address

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Precisely! Now highlight and forward several messages at once. WHen
> you click "browse" to pick the recipients, there is only the TO:
> part, not the CC or BCC. Try it and you will see what I mean. I
> believe it should be changed to match the graphics you included

Ok, I see what you mean now. But in my case, the dialog has all three tabs
regardless!

So, it's time to ask for confirmations, I guess!

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Re: Forwarding multiple messages to one address

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: Forwarding multiple messages to one address


>>You can make a forward template if copypasting to BCC is so much of a problem.
> Ok but I would only want to use it sending several messages at once, not at other times
> Please look at the form that comes up when you want to send a
> message and click any one of the TO: / CC: /  BCC: labels. I think
> they should use a similar setup showing all 3 options when you forward several  messages

Then I don't understand what you're missing or trying to do. When you forward a message,
you get the usual message composition dialog with editable header fields.
In the "active" one, there appear buttons to the right (To: is "active" at the start):

Pressing the address book button in TO, CC or BCC invokes a "pick e-mail addresses" dialog which has tabs for all three of them in the right pane:



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Re: Line continuation in templates doesn't work

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Try %- and not just -

> Like any other macro, it must have the % as first character.

Thanks! I didn't think of this 'cuz all programming languages use a
single character for line continuation.

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Line continuation in templates doesn't work

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello tbbeta,

The macros help section says the a dash character at the end of a line
makes TB ignore the line break (so you don't have to put multiple
macro assignments all on the same line). However, I had no success
in using it - it adds the dash character and the unwanted line
break instead.

The (reply) template I tried is this:
%TO=""-
%TO="%OFROMNAME <%OTOADDR>"-
%Quotes
%Cursor

Can anyone confirm?

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Re: Forwarding multiple messages to one address

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> When I forward multiple messages and browse to a group, all members
> of that group are added to the TO: line. Could we get the
> possibility of having BCC:? (and perhaps CC:)

> Thanks

You can make a forward template if copypasting to BCC is so much of a
problem.

Something like:
%BCC="%TO"%TO=""

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Re: View Mode modes canot be removed

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Are you working in OTFE mode?

Nope, I use Home edition.

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Re: View Mode modes canot be removed

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Hello all!

> I have tried to remove unneeded view modes using Properties panel. They
> disappear from the list but unfortunately, they are restored after next run
> of the program. This occurs probably in all 5.x series (including last The
> Bat! 5.3.2.9) starting at least from Voyager 5.1.6.5. I am working in OTFE
> mode and maybe this is the reason of such problem.

> Any confirmation?

Created and deleted view modes successfully here, including old ones.
Check if they are in use.

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Re: Filtering is even more broken

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> It  is  an  unfortunate  fact  of computer life that any software CAN become
> corrupted,  including  TB and including downloads.  Why not try restoring to
> an earlier version which worked correctly and then install a new download of
> the latest version?

A truly clean solution would be exporting existing filters in
human-readable form, checking they don't have anything strange in them, then
wiping everything connected with TB (including folders in "Application
data" and registry entries), reinstalling and recreating the
profile from scratch and importing the filters.
This guarantees that any internal inconsistencies in the database
that possibly cause the errors will be neutralized.

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Re: Message-ID color in source viewer affects two other headers, too

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Hello all,

> in Version 5.3.2.2 the Message-ID display in source view can be colored in
> its own color. However, the setting from Preferences / Viewer | Editor /
> Source Viewer colors not only the address in the Message-ID-field but also
> in the In-Reply-to- and References-field.

> Is that intended?

I think so. Apparently, "Message ID" refers to information type rather
than a specific header's value.

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Re: I cannot close any issues that I created and that have been resolved

[Ivan Pozdeev]

IP>> Great. Now the site is down with 'mysql_connect(): Too many connections' 
:^)

> I just now got in

Did you notice the smile at the and and the nature of the error?
This was a humorous note that the site "went down under the slashdot effect",
alleging everyone rushed to try to close their tickets after you
published the link :^)

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Re: Fwd: I cannot close any issues that I created and that have been resolved

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> I guess it's better send this directly to those in charge to get their
> attention.

> (webmaster@ is given at the tracker and Max seems to be in charge of
> beta tester relations)

For webmaster@, I got a bounce message. I knew it could very well be
broken for someone like ritlabs.

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5.3.2.6 (BETA)--- Begin Message ---
This is the mail system at host relay1.telecom.mipt.ru.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

   The mail system

: host argus.ritlabs.com[95.65.9.242] said: 553 5.3.0
... User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Reporting-MTA: dns; relay1.telecom.mipt.ru
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 2B668122AB6
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; vano@mail.mipt.ru
Arrival-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:54:24 +0400 (MSK)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; webmaster@ritlabs.com
Original-Recipient: rfc822;webmaster@ritlabs.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.3.0
Remote-MTA: dns; argus.ritlabs.com
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 553 5.3.0 ... User unknown
--- Begin Message ---

I guess it's better send this directly to those in charge to get their
attention.

(webmaster@ is given at the tracker and Max seems to be in charge of
beta tester relations)

===
From: Rick 
To: tbbeta 
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 8:26:30 PM
Subject: I cannot close any issues that I created and that have been resolved

===8<==Original message text===
I cannot close any issues that I created and that have been resolved
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=107

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I cannot close any issues that I created and that have been resolved
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Fwd: I cannot close any issues that I created and that have been resolved

[Ivan Pozdeev]

I guess it's better send this directly to those in charge to get their
attention.

(webmaster@ is given at the tracker and Max seems to be in charge of
beta tester relations)

===
From: Rick 
To: tbbeta 
Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2012, 8:26:30 PM
Subject: I cannot close any issues that I created and that have been resolved

===8<==Original message text===
I cannot close any issues that I created and that have been resolved
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=107

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As dreams are made on; and our little life
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Using all POP accounts
I download all images





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Re: I cannot close any issues that I created and that have been resolved

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> I cannot close any issues that I created and that have been resolved
> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=107


Great. Now the site is down with 'mysql_connect(): Too many connections' :^)

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Re: 5.3.2.5 / MIME forwarding messages as .eml files

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> N It is in my SENT folder with the 1.eml and MOST servers are
> set to reject EML messages because it is potentially dangerous -
> even SPAMCOP.NET rejects them although they will accept MSG files

How in the world is it "potentially dangerous"? .eml is just a
raw representation of an email message as it was transferred via
SMTP. It is no worse than any other letter. .msg, being a binary
proprietary M$ format, is much more sinister in this regard.

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Re: Any way to open / close all folders in the folder pane

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Is there a shortcut to expand/collapse all threads?

Ctrl-SHIFT-Numpad +/- :^)

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Re: Facebook 'like' links in HTML mail

[Ivan Pozdeev]

>>But if you want to make an image a link, insert it then select it and press 
>>the hyperlink button
> I learn something new every day! 
> Thanks !!!

Well I just guessed right 'cuz that's how images are made links in HTML itself 
:^)

> I would LOVE to find a way to make the graphic appear from a link

You mean make the letter contain an image that's not embedded but is
to be downloaded from the Net? I didn't find a way either. And I doubt
its usefulness because the link can become invalid at any time so you
won't be able to see the complete message in the future.

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Re: Facebook 'like' links in HTML mail

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: Facebook 'like' links in HTML mail


> Anyone know how to do this with TB? Can we get access to the HTML?

> Basically insert a link with an image

I asked the support about "writing HTML directly" in v4. They said I couldn't.

But if you want to make an image a link, insert it then select it and press the hyperlink button:



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Re: 5.3.2.5

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> You might be able to close it yourself (it depends on the bugtracker's
> configuration)

In the workflow that i witnessed before the tracker's crash, the
_reporter_ is expected to bring a ticker from "resolved" to "closed"
after confirming the fix.
I'm not sure if you can close your ticket from another state.

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Re: 5.3.2.5

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> You can close this one then:
> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=31

You might be able to close it yourself (it depends on the bugtracker's
configuration)

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Re: Menu item Help/Feedback/Bug report (English) is faulty.

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> It  would  be  very  convenient  for  us Beta testers if the Bug report item
> actually  worked.   Is  there  any  chance  that  this 'Bug' could be
> attended to soon?

We report a lot more issues than regular users and need to be extra
cautious to avoid duplicates. So if this is fixed, it should lead to
the main page of the tracker.

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Re: 5.3.1.0 Quick reply

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Are you sure you are using version 5.3.1 ?

It appears not.
What a disgrace.

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Re: 5.3.1.0

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Do we have to install the msi you posted earlier, or can we just
> replace the .exe from the beta version I am using (see sig)?

>>What's new in 5.3.1.0 since _5.2.2.0_:

Install the .msi first I guess.

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Re: v5.3.1 Forwarding several messages to one address forwards as ATTACHMENTS

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: v5.3.1 Forwarding several messages to one address forwards as ATTACHMENTS


Hello Rick,

Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 5:38:08 PM, you wrote:

> This is new behavior: When Forwarding several messages to one address forwards as ATTACHMENTS
> The issue of not sending immediately is still broken

> Confirmations anyone? If so, I will add it to bug tracker

All the messages are in attachments while ONE OF THEM (the one focused) is in the body too.
Immediate sending works.

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Re: 5.3.1.0

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: 5.3.1.0


>> It works... Using quick reply!

> I started to turn it off in some folders but found it has a DRAG
> bar and you can in effect minimize it then just grab it and make it bigger if you want to use it

Now I remember. I hid it in this manner when it first appeared and now it's nowhere to be found!



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Re: 5.3.1.0

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> It works... Using quick reply!

Can you tell what it is? I read the announcements and all but can't
find anything named like this anywhere.

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Re: The Bat! 5.2.2 MSI

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: The Bat! 5.2.2 MSI


> I am on XP - perhaps that is the difference. It isn't a problem for
> me. (well a reboot is ALWAYS irksome, but other installs require it also) :)))

Most likely, they prompt to reboot if any of the files to be replaced were in use during installation
i.e. TB was running.

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Re: The Bat! 5.2.1.2 (BETA)

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: The Bat! 5.2.1.2 (BETA)


> You have sub-folders of your Sent folder? I have never heard of that.
> What would they be useful for?

I used to create Sent subfolder at work for "Daily Reports" - bulk mail with stereotypical contents that stands apart from "general interactions".

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Re: TB 5.2.1.2 (but also present in previous build): sender blank ininbox message list (it shows in message detail though) forcertain messages

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: TB 5.2.1.2 (but also present in previous build): sender blank ininbox message list (it shows in message detail though) forcertain messages


> Is there a way to get a message out in its *verbatim* form, not altered by any
> output filter or so, or can only RIT debug the mail parsing and maybe see
> something there?

F9
> A question I ask myself every now and then: is it enough to report an issue
> here for RIT to notice it, or do I definitely need to create a record in
> the bugtracker for a topic to be noticed?

Completely depends on how the RIT folks prioritize butracker-reported vs maillist-reported vs self-assigned issues in their work.
RIT guys, can you comment anything on this matter?

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Re: 5.2 MSI files

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: 5.2 MSI files


Hello Cees,

Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 1:25:10 AM, you wrote:

> Hallo MAU,

> Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 11:20:59 PM, you wrote:

>>> Please try 5.2 MSI files and let us know whether it installs properly.
>>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_5-2.msi

>> Smooth install here, no problems so far.

>  well,  except  for the fact that in my case version in the sig didn't update
>  and it IS a macro  weird...


Was TB running during installation? If it was, you'd have received "reboot needed" message and need to follow it.

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Re: AV when viewing a virtual folder

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Off topic: the message in your signature might be relevant to this :^)

> I opened the properties of a virtual folder
> I looked at the selected folders, but made no changes
> When I pressed OK I got the following error
> ---
> The Bat!
> ---
> Access violation at address 0045DB93 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
> 303F.
> ---
> OK   
> ---
>
> --
> Rick
> Cannot open file "C:\Documents and Settings\Rick\My Documents\mail account 
> exports\quotes.txt"


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Re: IMAP filters

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello Peter,

Monday, August 13, 2012, 1:05:46 AM, you wrote:

> Stuart,

> On 12-08-2012 23:00, you wrote in
> :
PF>>>  I am the only one p*ssed off that IMAP filtering still does not work?

>> No, I have problems in IMAP accounts as well. However mine seem to be that 
>> filters will work 95% of the time and then the 5% slip and do not filter 
>> correctly.

> For me, it's only 30% of the time for moving and assigning colour group and 0%
> of marking read (common filter marking spam read in spam folders)

I fixed such problems by recreating the account when moving to 5.x .
Must've been some differences in the base that new versions don't understand.
You might want to file your base to devs for then to check this.

Btw how do you generate the link to the original message? I didn't know TB
had message cross-linking capabilities at all!

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Re: 5.1.6.9 Flagging with G is not working

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: 5.1.6.9  Flagging with  G is not working


Hello Rick,

Friday, August 10, 2012, 12:19:40 AM, you wrote:

> Every time I try to use  G to flag a message, it is
> interpreting this as  V and wants to move the message. I
> have tried to add  G to the menu shortcuts as it seems to
> have disappeared, but every I try to assign  G, it INSERTS
>  V. This started randomly in the last beta.

> Could someone else please test this? I CAN type the letter "G" of
> course and have no keyboard keys reassigned. (And this is only happening in the bat Interface)

> Thanks in advance

Works here too.
Existing shortcut disappearing is a suspicious symptom, this may signify a glitch elsewhere in the app instance.

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Re: floating SMTP server

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: floating SMTP server


> Do you know by which conditions TheBat selects the correct SMTP 
> server, then? Is it simply a manual switch?

Yes AFAICS. "SMTP server" field in Account properties->Transport becomes a combo box.
I couldn't find a way to put this 

> This might be a chicken-or-the-egg problem: Even though the 
> DHCP-attribute has been defined for quite a while, I know of no client
> that's using it. But since TheBat just recently introduced this 
> switching mechanism, wouldn't this be the perfect chance to finally 
> utilize it?

Maybe. In any case, it's not for me to decide. This is all about all-in-one vs keep-it-simple tradeoff.

Meanwhile, http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.mail.the-bat.user/32428 suggests using a local SMTP server
that would forward a message according to whatever logic you program into it.
Python is ideal for this job since it has an SMTP proxy template in standard library.

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Re: floating SMTP server

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: floating SMTP server


> If so: Can TheBat use a SMTP server offered via DHCP? This would 
> certainly be the perfect way to always use the most appropriate 
> server.

From what I can see, it can't: TB executables don't reference either DHCP API or relevant registry keys.

The reason is most likely because providing SMTP server in DHCP options is a very uncommon setup. 


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Re: Office.com breaks The Bat

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: Office.com breaks The Bat


> outlook.com ?
>   

In that case, http://www.google.com/search?q=mail+program+settings+site%3Aoutlook.com
and its first result, http://help.outlook.com/en-ca/140/cc875899.aspx

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Re: System HTML viewer not displaying embedded images

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: System HTML viewer not displaying embedded images


> Am I the only one who sees
> anything wrong here?

Nope.


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Re: 5.1.0.1

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> @Ritlabs: Is there any way to make the "SMTP servers On-The-Go" configurable 
> through rules? For example if
> ip=x then use server 1 else if ip=y den use server 2 or else use 
> server 3

Who knows what other information about your environment you will require? E.g.
IP may be not very descriptive, local domain or some other dhcp-provided
settings may characterize the network better. This way, it's best to provide a
way to run a custom script.

IMO, an ability to quickly select the 'active' server is good enough.

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Re: Outlook Export Wizard

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Is  there  a  simpler  way of handling this? Maybe a way I didn't look
> into properly?

I'd upload it to an IMAP server with a Python script.

Ask the support. If they ever implemented a way to do it, they should help.
If they didn't, you have to work it around through an open format like my
suggestion above. 'cuz TB's base format is as proprietary as Outlook's.

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Re: IMAP and reading HTML eMail

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> Have  you  checked  if  there  is  a difference between those with and
> without "Part.att" file attached?
> If  the  eMail  is  just a normal announcement from LI then it does not
> have the "Part.att" file. But those from Group Discussions do have it.

There's an ancient bug report with this behaviour:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id= (note the ID! :^) ).

It says this was because the message in question was malformed.

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Re: IMAP folder sync

[Ivan Pozdeev]

>
> That's what I do, and I can only get a merged list between what was
> and what now is. There is no indication of what folders really exist.

Do old folders disappear after pressing "Refresh list" in the context
menu in "Manage IMAP folders"? If they don't, that means your other
client didn't really delete them.



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Re: Missing Message Templates in 5.0.36.3

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: Missing Message Templates in 5.0.36.3


> PS: The %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME macro isn't working correctly on Windows
> 8.

How is TB supposed to substitute a marketing name it doesn't know? :^)

If I were the developer, I'd expand it like "Windows ." for unknown versions.

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Re: Large Attachment are not send

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: Large Attachment are not send


> !29. Jan 2012, 08:44:08: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last
> commands sent were: "DATA", "RSET")
> !29. Jan 2012, 08:44:08: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last
> commands sent were: "RSET", "RSET")

Collect protocol logs and packet capture. Without them, it's hard to tell what's happening. 

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Re: 'Expand all threads' does not stick

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: 'Expand all threads' does not stick


Hello Roger,

> I  now  have  continual problems with the 'Expand all threads' not sticking.
> It always opens with this function not ticked.

Can't confirm.

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Re: Filters aren't always used automatically

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello Joe,

> My question is, did you have to completely delete everything and
> install from scratch.  I can't do that, I have too many filters and
> lots of folders.

Filters  can  be  exported  and  imported  in text form as F.P. showed
earlier (copy/paste in Sorting Office).
If  it's  IMAP, folders won't go anywhere from the server. They will
reappear in TB after you re-subscribe to them with 'Manage IMAP folders'.

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Re: Filters aren't always used automatically

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Title: Re: Filters aren't always used automatically


>     I suspect the cause to be in base format differences/upgrade
>     procedures. After upgrading TB through a path developers didn't
>     anticipate (or through buggy versions), MB may have some internal
>     data in an invalid state that causes auto-filtering to fail/be
>     disabled regardless of settings.

After uninstallation, removal of AddData\The Bat!\MAIL and registry key, 
reinstallation of TB 4, recreating the mailbox and filters and upgrading back, filters work.
(I created MB from scratch - the messages were re-downloaded from the server
 but all the settings were gone, of course.)
So, no idea how to troubleshoot this further without having source code. It could be anything.
Recreating the mailbox should help.

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Filters aren't always used automatically

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello, tbbeta.

> very unhappy to start that postings again.but: IMAP Filters still
> broken and doesent work.

I imported the filters F.P. provided and, to my most surprise, discoveded that
incoming mail is filtered in one of my mailboxes and isn't in the other.
(i.e. filters are applied when re-filtering a folder but not on mail arrival).

"Don't use filters" is unchecked in both MBs, filters in question are on and 
enabled for all folders.

The MB filters work at was copied from a TB v4.2.44 installation. The other
one remains from TB v5.0.24 from which I upgraded to beta by replacing
thebat.exe .

F.P.,
What we need is to find a way to reproduce this from a clean state
and tell it in a bug report.
Our other means to trace the issue (ex_log, protocol log) didn't
help me yet in this case.

I suspect the cause to be in base format differences/upgrade
procedures. After upgrading TB through a path developers didn't
anticipate (or through buggy versions), MB may have some internal
data in an invalid state that causes auto-filtering to fail/be
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Re: 5.0.26.17

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello, Maxim.

> So, in your case, The Bat! will gradually fall
> back  to  just  one  connection  even  if  you  have  allowed multiple
> connections in the account properties.

Damn. I'm experiencing just this behaviour.
Responsiveness to user commands drops as a result 'cuz they can spend
several minutes in queue when there is background activity with
regular high-pri tasks like 'update folder counters (precise)'.
And yes, filtering performance, initially 4-5 times faster than
before, drops too. I managed to complete an SNES game (~1 hr) before
moving of ~1400 messages was done.

As I told earlier after performing investigation, your initial
suggestion to allow many clients to SELECT the same folder will work
in my case.

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Re: 5.0.26.17

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> I was going to check whether EXAMINE removes folder lock in Exchange
> 2003 but wasn't able to find an SSL-capable terminal emulator.

Checked using SecureCRT (it's trial yet better than nothing):
Exchange 2003 allows multiple clients to SELECT the same folder in RW
mode so the question is not applicable. Maxim's suggestion will do the
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Re: 5.0.26.17

[Ivan Pozdeev]

> No, if connection 1 sits in folder A and connection 2 wants to move a
> message from folder B to folder A, it tells connection 1 to exit from
> the folder A.

Not sure if this is connected with F.P.'s issue of filtering 'not
working at all' (he didn't give details)... if you are, never mind.

> This is because some servers don't allow multiple connections to
> operate in the same folder; while other servers do allow. We will make
> an option to allow multiple connections to operate the same folder, so
> The  Bat!  won't need to release folders by issuing LOGOUT or UNSELECT
> command.

If you're able to eliminate race conditions, fine.

I was going to suggest one of the following:

1) Use standard CLOSE command instead of UNSELECT if the user doesn't
object purging \Deleted (by selecting the default 'move to trash' as primary 
deletion method, he/she
doesn't) and EXAMINE instead of SELECT whenever possible.
Maybe EXAMINE is even capable of removing a write lock from the
folder without leaving it.

2) Use and manage auxiliary 'temporary' folders to SELECT into. It's
possible to reliably use and manage them even if there are multiple TB
instances logged in (details are lengthy).

I was going to check whether EXAMINE removes folder lock in Exchange
2003 but wasn't able to find an SSL-capable terminal emulator.

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С уважением,
 Ivan  mailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru



 Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: 5.0.26.17

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello, F.P..

> IMAP Filters still broken. Stops working.
WFM. I only experience reconnections when using multiple IMAP connections
(https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8955) and slowdown because of
that.

Perhaps your problem is limited to certian filter statements.
I only use string/regex matches and 'move' and 'mark as read' actions.
You may want to disable filters one-by-one too see which one is
causing problems.

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 Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: "Connection unexpectedly closed"

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello, tbbeta.

Sorry, I just noticed I didn't send reply to the whole list. It was:

> Correct. While filtering a big folder, the bat reconnects to server many times
> but now it does this the normal way.

I reported this.

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 Current beta is 5.0.26.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: Cleaning Registry

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hi, RS.

Filters and virtual folder settings reside in mailbox rather than
registry. I think you can use backup/restore function.

Settings that do reside in registry are kept in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT .

> Hi,

> How can I clean registry 100% TB! free after TB! reinstall?

> Want  to install a fresh copy (did it once) but TB! is using info that
> was  stored  for  previous installations (ex: autobackup directory and
> timing).

> Any way to export all filters and Virtual Folders and import them on a
> fresh copy?






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 Current beta is 5.0.26.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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Re: "Connection unexpectedly closed"

[Ivan Pozdeev]

Hello, Maxim.

Correct. While filtering a big folder, the bat reconnects to server many times
but now it does this the normal way.

> Hello Tbbeta,

>   Did I understand correctly that the "Connection unexpectedly closed"
>   errors have gone?


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 Current beta is 5.0.26.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
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