Re: Backup and restore question
Hello Allie, On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:30:21 -0500 GMT (22/12/2001, 08:30 +0800 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: ACM> It wouldn't appear that the preferences in the Options/preferences ACM> dialog are retained. I can see with the window size and ticker ACM> location settings not being retained. However, there are other ACM> preferences that aught to be backed up and restored. Thankfully, it ACM> isn't much of a hassle to reconfigure these options. The important ACM> options, settings and data are restored just fine. I wonder when they will finalise the Backup functionality. I am not using nor recommending it, because my old batch file is fast and backs up everything. Backup should be able to backup everything, shouldn't it? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Analogies in writing are like feathers on a snake. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Filtering and SPAM
Hello Jerry, On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:47:02 -0800 GMT (22/12/2001, 05:47 +0800 GMT), Jerry McRae wrote: JM> Tops on my wish lists is the ability to search filters. Every once in a JM> while I need to find the filter for a folder. Sometimes that isn't very JM> easy. Even if there was a way of dumping the filter list to a text JM> file in order of processing, just for searching purposes, that would be JM> real useful! I don't think it's possible at the moment, but I give my filters meaningful names. This way, I manually (optically) search through the names and find the filter I am looking for. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Betamaxed: When a technology is overtaken in the market by inferior but better marketed competition as in "Microsoft betamaxed Apple right out of the market". Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Numbers
Hello David, On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:12:34 -0500 GMT (22/12/2001, 00:12 +0800 GMT), * * * David Gonzalez * * * wrote: PA>> Can someone tell me why when I reply to something I get a number in PA>> brackets after the RE: Like Re:[2] etc? Seems awful messy. What's it PA>> mean? DG> iT'S A feature from the mail/list server which keeps track of all of DG> the msgs regarding a specific topic. Actually, this is not quite correct. It is a feature oif The Bat! to put this replycounter behind the Word "Re". It can be turned off from within The Bat!. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54/10 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Backup and restore question
Friday, December 21, 2001, 6:30:49 PM, you wrote: [...] > Ok. You very well may not suffer especially since you didn't know what > they were about. But then, as you said, you may need them some > day. I think a reinstall of TB! should restore them for you. The > reinstall will not affect any of your data and settings. > Those other address book folders apart from the trusted and > intermediate Root Ca folders are for doing LDAP searches for > addresses. Each address book represents a different LDAP server. Pity > that you don't have any of them left to examine the properties of one > of them. You can do searches for e-mail addresses that are stored on > these LDAP servers. They're like directories. Like my follow-up message said, I didn't delete those two directories after all -- so I lucked out, eh? Those other "directories" (e.g., White Pages) were empty, so I did delete them. I don't think I'll have much use for them. I know...never say never. [...] JF>> Now I'm going to have a drink of bourbon. Maybe a couple of JF>> drinks. > That would surely relax you. I think that's how I get in all this trouble. I'm too "relaxed." JF>> Geez, every time I try to tidy things up a bit, I end up deleting JF>> the wrong things. > Don't spring clean too much. Let the sleeping dogs lie. Wake them only > if you know what they're about, then they'd never bite you. > Cheer up and happy drinking. :-) I took your advice and looked in Help and found out what S/Mime was all about(!). Now I'm *really* going to have a drink. Seriously, it looked interesting. I may even give it a try someday. Someday when I'm not so "relaxed." :) Thanks again for all the help, Allie! -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Backup and restore question
Friday, December 21, 2001, 6:30:49 PM, you wrote: [...] > Ok. You very well may not suffer especially since you didn't know what > they were about. But then, as you said, you may need them some > day. I think a reinstall of TB! should restore them for you. The > reinstall will not affect any of your data and settings. That's good to know. > Those other address book folders apart from the trusted and > intermediate Root Ca folders are for doing LDAP searches for > addresses. Each address book represents a different LDAP server. Pity > that you don't have any of them left to examine the properties of one > of them. You can do searches for e-mail addresses that are stored on > these LDAP servers. They're like directories. Like my follow-up message said, I didn't delete those two directories after all -- so I lucked out, eh? Those other "directories" (e.g., White Pages) were empty, so I did delete them. I don't think I'll have much use for them. I know...never say never. [...] JF>> Now I'm going to have a drink of bourbon. Maybe a couple of JF>> drinks. > That would surely relax you. I think that's how I get in all this trouble. I get too "relaxed." JF>> Geez, every time I try to tidy things up a bit, I end up deleting JF>> the wrong things. > Don't spring clean too much. Let the sleeping dogs lie. Wake them only > if you know what they're about, then they'd never bite you. > Cheer up and happy drinking. :-) I took your advice and looked in Help and found out what S/Mime was all about(!). Now I'm *really* going to have a drink. Seriously, it looked interesting. I may even give it a try someday. Someday when I'm not so "relaxed." :) Thanks again for all the help, Allie! -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Backup and restore question
@ 20:15:45 -0800 [ Fri, 21 Dec 2001], Joe Finocchiaro [JF] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... JF> Okay. I'm in deep doo doo, I think. :-)) JF> I deleted those items from the address book I inherited in my JF> "new" copy of The Bat! Ok. You very well may not suffer especially since you didn't know what they were about. But then, as you said, you may need them some day. I think a reinstall of TB! should restore them for you. The reinstall will not affect any of your data and settings. Those other address book folders apart from the trusted and intermediate Root Ca folders are for doing LDAP searches for addresses. Each address book represents a different LDAP server. Pity that you don't have any of them left to examine the properties of one of them. You can do searches for e-mail addresses that are stored on these LDAP servers. They're like directories. >> Well yes. The check has to be there because TB! cannot restore your >> personal addresses unless you back it up. On the other hand, those >> other address books you see are normally installed when you install >> TB!. JF> Is that what the Trusted Root CA, etc. stuff is? Yes. JF> Yes, that's about what I want it to look like. Unfortunately, I JF> deleted them (Trusted Root CA, etc.)from the address book. Hopefully JF> they're not needed, eh? JF> :( This is no great loss if you don't care for S/MIME. You can look in the help at what S/MIME is about. It would take some reading to really grasp what it's about, especially if you aren't familiar with PGP. JF> I have a funny feeling I've deleted that something I may need/want someday. Perhaps. Don't worry too much. :-) JF> Now I'm going to have a drink of bourbon. Maybe a couple of JF> drinks. That would surely relax you. JF> Geez, every time I try to tidy things up a bit, I end up deleting JF> the wrong things. Don't spring clean too much. Let the sleeping dogs lie. Wake them only if you know what they're about, then they'd never bite you. Cheer up and happy drinking. :-) -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/18 (*) OS: WinXP Home] ¯¯ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Backup and restore question
Friday, December 21, 2001, 8:15:45 PM, you wrote: [...] >> These have to do with S/MIME and S/MIME key >> verifications/certification. > I have a funny feeling I've deleted that something I may need/want someday. > Now I'm going to have a drink of bourbon. Maybe a couple of drinks. > Geez, every time I try to tidy things up a bit, I end up deleting > the wrong things. Hallelujah! CORRECTION: I didn't delete them! I deleted all the other folders, but not those two. The other folders were all empty, so I deleted them, but kept these two (Trusted Root CA and Intermediate Root CA). I don't know if I'll ever need them, but at least I still have them. Aah...what the heck...I'll have a couple pops of bourbon anyway. :) -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Backup and restore question
Friday, December 21, 2001, 5:57:27 PM, you wrote: > On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:16:47 -0800, Joe Finocchiaro [JF] graced us > with these comments: > ... JF>> Allie, I'm confused (nothing new there, eh?). How could the "new" JF>> copy of The Bat! have my "old" Personal Address Book files already JF>> installed? + > It can't. :-) You were asking about trusted root ca and Intermediate > Root Ca. You can select those for backup if you made changes to them. > Otherwise, TB! will recreate those as it did with mine. Usually, the > only address books you need to backup are the personal ones. The > others may be backed up if you've made changes to them which makes > them now differ from the default. Okay. I'm in deep doo doo, I think. I deleted those items from the address book I inherited in my "new" copy of The Bat! However, what you're saying is...if the Personal Address Book box is checked, my Personal Address Book will be backed up? JF>> There apparently are a few "contacts" that are inherited by JF>> default (about The Bat!) when you first install The Bat!, but I'm JF>> talking about my *own* Personal Address Book. By default, it JF>> appears to come with a "check" in the Personal Address Book check JF>> box. > Well yes. The check has to be there because TB! cannot restore your > personal addresses unless you back it up. On the other hand, those > other address books you see are normally installed when you install > TB!. Is that what the Trusted Root CA, etc. stuff is? > I backed up only my personal address book and this is how my > address book looks after I installed and restored TB!. As you can see, > TB! installed all the other address books with addresses. > http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/address.png Yes, that's about what I want it to look like. Unfortunately, I deleted them (Trusted Root CA, etc.)from the address book. Hopefully they're not needed, eh? :( JF>> And what do "Trusted Root CA" and "Intermediate Root CA" mean? > These have to do with S/MIME and S/MIME key > verifications/certification. I have a funny feeling I've deleted that something I may need/want someday. Now I'm going to have a drink of bourbon. Maybe a couple of drinks. Geez, every time I try to tidy things up a bit, I end up deleting the wrong things. -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Backup and restore question
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:16:47 -0800, Joe Finocchiaro [JF] graced us with these comments: ... JF> Allie, I'm confused (nothing new there, eh?). How could the "new" JF> copy of The Bat! have my "old" Personal Address Book files already JF> installed? + It can't. :-) You were asking about trusted root ca and Intermediate Root Ca. You can select those for backup if you made changes to them. Otherwise, TB! will recreate those as it did with mine. Usually, the only address books you need to backup are the personal ones. The others may be backed up if you've made changes to them which makes them now differ from the default. JF> There apparently are a few "contacts" that are inherited by JF> default (about The Bat!) when you first install The Bat!, but I'm JF> talking about my *own* Personal Address Book. By default, it JF> appears to come with a "check" in the Personal Address Book check JF> box. Well yes. The check has to be there because TB! cannot restore your personal addresses unless you back it up. On the other hand, those other address books you see are normally installed when you install TB!. I backed up only my personal address book and this is how my address book looks after I installed and restored TB!. As you can see, TB! installed all the other address books with addresses. http://www.geocities.com/acmartin.geo/address.png JF> And what do "Trusted Root CA" and "Intermediate Root CA" mean? These have to do with S/MIME and S/MIME key verifications/certification. -- ©Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/18 (*) OS: WinXP Home] ¯¯ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Backup and restore question
Friday, December 21, 2001, 4:30:21 PM, you wrote: > @ 17:48:33 -0800 [ Fri, 21 Dec 2001], Joe Finocchiaro [JF] > thoughtfully wrote the following: > ... JF>> Does fully restoring The Bat! (e.g., after a crash, etc.) consist of the JF>> following: JF>> Assumptions are, the old Bat! was backed-up in toto, i.e., Account JF>> Data, Mail folders, Address Books, User Preferences, Attachment Files, JF>> etc., and then saved to disk. (What do "Trusted Root CA" and JF>> "Intermediate Root CA" mean? And do those boxes also need to be JF>> checked?) > Those address books have to do with S/MIME and if you use S/MIME. No, > you don't have to back them up since they are installed by default > when you reinstall TB! Allie, I'm confused (nothing new there, eh?). How could the "new" copy of The Bat! have my "old" Personal Address Book files already installed? There apparently are a few "contacts" that are inherited by default (about The Bat!) when you first install The Bat!, but I'm talking about my *own* Personal Address Book. By default, it appears to come with a "check" in the Personal Address Book check box. And what do "Trusted Root CA" and "Intermediate Root CA" mean? See Tools|Backup|Choose The Personal Address Book box is checked by default, but what about "Trusted Root CA" and "Intermediate Root CA"? What are those boxes for? JF>> 1. Download another copy of The Bat!, install it (after locating your JF>> old key and password, insert them, etc.) JF>> 2. Access Tools|Restore JF>> 3. Point to the file where the backup was stored (e.g., on a Zip disk) JF>> 4. Select the file JF>> 5. Click Okay. JF>> Is that pretty much the process? > Indeed it is. Nice and simple. :-) I restored my setup just a couple > days back in this way. You don't have to worry about where your > account folders reside on disk when doing the backup. The accounts > will be restored using the default locations. Yes, if that's all there is to it, indeed it is a very simple process. As in, if I can do it, anyone can do it. JF>> Will that completely restore a new copy of The Bat! to the *exact* JF>> condition of the old version? > It wouldn't appear that the preferences in the Options/preferences > dialog are retained. I can see with the window size and ticker > location settings not being retained. However, there are other > preferences that aught to be backed up and restored. Thankfully, it > isn't much of a hassle to reconfigure these options. The important > options, settings and data are restored just fine. I can live with that! -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Backup and restore question
@ 17:48:33 -0800 [ Fri, 21 Dec 2001], Joe Finocchiaro [JF] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... JF> Does fully restoring The Bat! (e.g., after a crash, etc.) consist of the JF> following: JF> Assumptions are, the old Bat! was backed-up in toto, i.e., Account JF> Data, Mail folders, Address Books, User Preferences, Attachment Files, JF> etc., and then saved to disk. (What do "Trusted Root CA" and JF> "Intermediate Root CA" mean? And do those boxes also need to be JF> checked?) Those address books have to do with S/MIME and if you use S/MIME. No, you don't have to back them up since they are installed by default when you reinstall TB! JF> 1. Download another copy of The Bat!, install it (after locating your JF> old key and password, insert them, etc.) JF> 2. Access Tools|Restore JF> 3. Point to the file where the backup was stored (e.g., on a Zip disk) JF> 4. Select the file JF> 5. Click Okay. JF> Is that pretty much the process? Indeed it is. Nice and simple. :-) I restored my setup just a couple days back in this way. You don't have to worry about where your account folders reside on disk when doing the backup. The accounts will be restored using the default locations. JF> Will that completely restore a new copy of The Bat! to the *exact* JF> condition of the old version? It wouldn't appear that the preferences in the Options/preferences dialog are retained. I can see with the window size and ticker location settings not being retained. However, there are other preferences that aught to be backed up and restored. Thankfully, it isn't much of a hassle to reconfigure these options. The important options, settings and data are restored just fine. -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/18 & WinXP Home PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Backup and restore question
Another question: Does fully restoring The Bat! (e.g., after a crash, etc.) consist of the following: Assumptions are, the old Bat! was backed-up in toto, i.e., Account Data, Mail folders, Address Books, User Preferences, Attachment Files, etc., and then saved to disk. (What do "Trusted Root CA" and "Intermediate Root" mean? And do those boxes also need to be checked?) 1. Download another copy of The Bat!, install it (after locating your old key and password, insert them, etc.) 2. Access Tools|Restore 3. Point to the file where the backup was stored (e.g., on a Zip disk) 4. Select the file 5. Click Okay. Is that pretty much the process? Will that completely restore a new copy of The Bat! to the *exact* condition of the old version? If not, what did I omit? -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Backup and restore question
Another question: Does fully restoring The Bat! (e.g., after a crash, etc.) consist of the following: Assumptions are, the old Bat! was backed-up in toto, i.e., Account Data, Mail folders, Address Books, User Preferences, Attachment Files, etc., and then saved to disk. (What do "Trusted Root CA" and "Intermediate Root CA" mean? And do those boxes also need to be checked?) 1. Download another copy of The Bat!, install it (after locating your old key and password, insert them, etc.) 2. Access Tools|Restore 3. Point to the file where the backup was stored (e.g., on a Zip disk) 4. Select the file 5. Click Okay. Is that pretty much the process? Will that completely restore a new copy of The Bat! to the *exact* condition of the old version? If not, what did I omit? -- Joe Finocchiaro mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: (2nd try) Only /some/ Templates are lost !!
@ 16:41:43 +0100 [ Fri, 21 Dec 2001], Eddie Castelli [EC] contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... EC> I likte to add that I've changed in the same time from v1.53t to EC> v1.54b10. Do you think this could have to do with it?? I doubt this. It's very likely how you went about making the move. -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/18 & WinXP Home PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: (2nd try) Only /some/ Templates are lost !!
Hello Eddie, On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:41:43 +0100GMT (21-12-01, 16:41 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: EC> I likte to add that I've changed in the same time from v1.53t to EC> v1.54b10. Do you think this could have to do with it?? Dunno. Stil haven't gone any further than 1.53d. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Numbers
*... > iT'S A feature from the mail/list server which keeps track of all of > the msgs regarding a specific topic. It's called Thread Numbers, i use > them on my lists, but as you say it's useless and looks bad too. > All clear?. Yeah, i can see the point of it but like Peter says it only works if everyone uses it. -- PRAEst76 http://www.escapism.co.uk/praest76/ np: nothing -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Filtering and SPAM
In a message dated, Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:47:02 -0800, Jerry Mcrae [JM] wrote: ... JM> PS. Is there a space after my two dashes above? How can I tell?? JM> Pressing always puts the cursor after the -, like the spaces JM> are being stripped off. Select the line with the mouse. -- | ©Allie Martin - Moderator o|--- | TB! v1.54 Beta/18 & WinXP Home PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: (2nd try) Only /some/ Templates are lost !!
@ 08:53:09 +0100 [ Fri, 21 Dec 2001], Eddie Castelli [EC] wrote these words of wisdom: ... EC> Some days ago I had to move my TB!datas to a other drive due to EC> lack of memory. Now I found that on all Accounts I lost my EC> templates except on some particular folders. As I have generally EC> kept my folder structure as is I wonder why or how this could EC> happen. How did you go about doing this? The way you should do it, is to create folders in the desired new location for each account. You then move the account data, by *first* going into the account properties//files & directories. Go to the Home directory option and browse to the new location for the account. Select the folder you created and then hit OK. TB!, *not you*, will then proceed to move the data to its new location. You can try this with one of your smaller account to see what I mean. If you do it manually, i.e., move the account data yourself, *and then*, change the home directory to reflect the new location, you will lose data, namely the templates. Your template data is overwritten by new ones since TB! didn't have any established ones to move. Sadly there's no way of retrieving the template data unless you did a backup before starting. When I discovered this the hard way, I had created backups. -- .-.-. ( : ) ©Allie C Martin .-.\ ' /.-. List Moderator and fellow end user (_.. 'Y' .._) TB! v1.54 Beta/18 & WinXP Home ( /|\ ) - '-' | '-' PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Filtering and SPAM
Hi, FWIW, here is what I have done to filter mail. I have not seen a detailed plan for filters anywhere, so I created my own bunch of filters. Hope it it helpful for someone. 1) I created several mail category mail boxes: 2Work 3Companies 5Groups 7Friends & Family 4ever Beneath each I put several sub-folders, most of which I created as I create each new filter. The numbers are for easy instant access to my primary folder. I also changed my account name to 1Jerry, for the same reason. Now to get to my Outbox from any one of my 100 or so folders I press 1o. Now I have specific folders, which I can easily filter messages into. Most of the folders I turn of the 'show unread message on ticker'. 2) I created a set of Incoming Mail filters for the account. a. each valid addressee: move to various boxes One filter for each person (address) I want to keep in a folder by themselves. This is easy to set up when you get mail from them. 1. Press ctrl-shft-F to create a new filter. 2. Check 'override existing filters'. This will put this at the top of the filter list. 3. Click on the icon to the right of 'move to folder'. Do this BEFORE clicking any other button, or you'll created the default named folder. Point to, or create a folder in a logical place. 4. OK! or Edit. I used edit to add further options. E.G. I mark all newsletters (like Amazon or Travelocity) as 'read', so they don't interrupt me at all. b. my specific addresses, trusted: move to various boxes I use may different addresses on several domains, which all get sent through my primary mail provider. Some of these address are ONLY used for specific purposes, and are never used by me in places that could lead to spam, so I can check them before the spam filters. c. mailing lists (several) I would like an easier way of marking certain subjects as 'interesting', and have only those message appear in a mailbox. This is a primitive way of doing that. I have three filters for each mailing list. 1. subjects I am interested in --> interested I have to manually add a new filter set for each topic I am especially interested in. A pain, really. 2. subjects to ignore (x) --> ignore again, I edit manually to add a new set. These message are marked as read. 3. other --> name-of-list This folder has the ticker off, but I don't change the read status. d. AB groups (vendors, support) I have a filter for each address book group. Example, if the address is in group 'vend' (vendors), I place the message in 3Companies. e. IDENT:root@mailroute2 --> Bad account, ident This is the start of SPAM checking. I found a common string in a group of junk mail I have received. The subjects, senders, addresses were all different, BUT there was a commons string starting 'IDENT:root@mailroute2'. I check against kluges, then mark as read, delete from server, and move to a folder in a different account "bad messages". I like having junk mail off my account, for searches, but still want to check it for possible mail from aunt Edna, who I didn't know had my address. All mail I move to bad account gets marked as read. f. names in SPAM AB (group 'ignore') --> Bad account, names A few people who use the same address and/or people I just want to ignore, I add them to the AB (with ctrl-W), SPAM address book, and group 'ignore' (since I don't see how to filter on the name of the address book, I have to do the extra step of a group name.) Advanced: 'address must be in address book', 'sender', group 'ignore' g. filter:@, recipient, No --> Bad account, trash -or- (under Alternate) undisclosed in Recipient. If there is no "@" in the recipient list (meaning it is blank), or it is sent to 'undisclosed', (and it didn't hit one of the above filters), trash it. h. my specific addresses, other Some of my address (Jerry123, JerryBerry) might fall into the wrong hands, so I place the filters AFTER the primary spam filters. I usually send each specific address to a folder. Some I mark a read so I only see it when I look in the folders. i. filter:RE:, subject, Yes --> Inbox Here begins some filters that attempt to determine 'good' mail, and copy it to Inbox (since I see no way of leaving it alone in Inbox). The last filter will take all mail that does not look 'good' j. filter:undeliverable, subject, Yes --> temp returned mail box k. others in AB, fw:|fwd:, subject, No --> inbox this allows anyone in my AB to appear in the inbox UNLESS they are forwarding something to me, which I ignore. l. other to myoldaddress & ",", recipient, No --> unknown sender I have one address that I have had for 10 years. It gets most of my junk mail. This filter checks to see if it is the *only* address on the line (no commas), then retains the message. m. All rec
Re: Missing Mail Messages
Hello JB, hi list, On Friday, December 21, 2001 'JB Marine LTD' wrote: > The problem is that although both the folders and the messages are > visible on the server, only the folders can be seen on the two client > pc's ie no messages in them. Have you checked, if you can see the *.tbb + *.tbi in an explorer? -- Greetings, Nils Using The Bat! 1.53t on Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Useless Desire #1
Hi Peter, [ picture in header bar ] PA> I'm aware The Bat can do this with the address-auto view but I think PA> it'd be pretty cool to have it docked in some way or included in the PA> header. Currently when viewing a message 1/2 to 2/3 of the header PA> bar is empty. A little info in there would be cool... I'd like that. Good idea! Either the picture from the address book or an X-Face. But please not in 1.54 final ;-) -- Best regards, Carsten The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/19) Business Windows NT 5.0 (Build 2195) Service Pack 2, PGP 0xe2d25323 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Useless Desire #1
tbudl... I used to own a miggy. Wouldn't surprise me if others hered did to. so far I've found most Bat users seemed to come over from Fido also... anyway i used Yam which had an interesting but semi-useless thing where it would load some address book info for the writer of the currently viewed message if it existed including a picture and view it in the header of the message. Foiund it kinda funky to have this little passport photo along with the mails from my friends or people in close lists. I'm aware The Bat can do this with the address-auto view but I think it'd be pretty cool to have it docked in some way or included in the header. Currently when viewing a message 1/2 to 2/3 of the header bar is empty. A little info in there would be cool... -- PRAEst76 http://www.escapism.co.uk/praest76 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Numbers
Hola Peter, En tu mensjae de: MSGID..: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fecha..: viernes, 21 de diciembre de 2001, Hora...: 03:04 Asunto.: Numbers Hoy viernes, 21 de diciembre de 2001, a las 11:10, te respondo asi: PA> tbudl... PA> Can someone tell me why when I reply to something I get a number in PA> brackets after the RE: Like Re:[2] etc? Seems awful messy. What's it PA> mean? iT'S A feature from the mail/list server which keeps track of all of the msgs regarding a specific topic. It's called Thread Numbers, i use them on my lists, but as you say it's useless and looks bad too. All clear?. Bye --- Saludos de * * * David Gonzalez * * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telnet://skynetbbs.d2g.com <> http://skynetbbs.8m.com >>No olvida quien finge olvido sino quien puede olvidar... (Mario Benedetti) === -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Designating browser for html links
Hello, I upgraded to Netscape 6.2 from 4.78 (6.2 works pretty well, unlike 6.1) because Panda Antivirus doesn't work with the older Netscapes. Now, however, The Bat keeps trying to bring up Netscape 4.78 when I double-click a URL within a Bat email. Doesn't matter that I have now uninstalled Netscape 4.78, re-installed Netscape 6.2, and re-installed The Bat (1.53d)--I would have thought the system defaults would have defaulted to the new Netscape. But no. Is it possible to do this? This all started when Norton Antivirus got too greedy in demanding a substantially higher annual fee to continue to receive virus upgrades from them. Panda is okay but there are some compatibility issues. Thanks, Jack John P. Case, M.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chicago, Illinois mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: add record to address book from command line
Hello Max, Friday, December 21, 2001, 12:56:33 PM, you wrote to TBUDL: MA> Does anybody know how I can add record to address book MA> from command line? Or may be anybody knows format of address book MA> files? I need it to make syncronization between my Palm address MA> book and The Bat! address book. Does your Palm read and write vcard-files? I found out that I can syncronize between Psion and The Bat using vcard files. -- Best regards, Ottar Grimstad, Norway mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.online.no/~ottgrims Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 version 4,10 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: add record to address book from command line
Hello Max, Friday, December 21, 2001, 3:56:33 AM, you wrote: MA> I need it to make syncronization between my Palm address book and MA> The Bat! address book -- Would you mind sharing when you get that completed? :-) -- Best regards, Peter -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Footers
Hello syv, On 21 Dec 2001 at 17:14:02 you wrote (at least in part): s> I have 3 accounts defined in TB. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the main s> one. This is the one I work with 99% of the time. s> Is there a way, when I create a new message from [EMAIL PROTECTED], s> to change the footer of the message if I change the s> From/Reply-To:? It does change the footer if you haven't changed the body of the message manually. If you did the macros are gone and away and can't the changed automatically. If you haven't changed anything in message body you may have to switch focus from body to header and back to activate changing / applying the appropriate macros. Otherwise, with an already modified body, you can create quick templates for every account, containing the appropriate footer and add in every QT the macro %ISSIGNATURE This way you can easily change the footer after editing the message body by typing in the quick template name and hitting + immediately after that string. Because of the '%ISSIGNATURE' macro it will replace the current signature at the very end of your message after the default signature delimiter '-- \n', or if this is not present add a signature delimiter followed by the textual output of the quick template at the very end of your mail. HTH Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/18 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) "Yesterday my doctor gave me a shock - He'd found blood in my alcohol!" -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Footers
Hi tbudl, I have 3 accounts defined in TB. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the main one. This is the one I work with 99% of the time. Is there a way, when I create a new message from [EMAIL PROTECTED], to change the footer of the message if I change the From/Reply-To:? It does it for the user name with the macro, but not with the footers. Right now, I either cut and paste the message and recreate it in the other account or I have to cut and paste the footers Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Can you edit ...
On 19-12-2001 at 20:27, Geoff Lane kindly wrote: > Wednesday, December 19, 2001, 2:42:33 PM, Peter Palmreuther wrote: GL>>> I can't find a way to edit the subject directly. GL>>> However, I know that I can move the message to the GL>>> outbox, edit it, then move it back to the Inbox. Is GL>>> this the only way? >> Yes, it is. The Bat! is not designed to easily alter messages after >> receiving. >> But for your purposes I'd suggest using the 'Memo' field ... > I suspected that my kludge was the only way. Unfortunately, that > doesn't preserve the received date -- so I can't rely on the > "timestamp" after editing the subject line. In that case, there is another way. Export the message (via the main menu --> Tools --> Export Messages --> Message File .msg option, open it with a text editor, edit the subject, save and then import it. Done. - K - -- 'When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'I always pay it extra.' - Lewis Carroll: Through the Looking-Glass -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: (2nd try) Only /some/ Templates are lost !!
Yasu George, --->>> George M. Menegakis / Freitag, 21.12.2001, 14:34:31 (2nd try) Only /some/ Templates are lost !! > When I moved The Bat folders from C:\Data\The Bat to D:\Data\The Bat > I used ultraedit in order to global replace C:\Data\The Bat with > D:\Data\The Bat recursively in all files after that directory. In what file did you make the global changes? > [...] Before doing that you should ask Ritlabs about. I will just to be on the secure side ;-)) -- best regards Eddie Powered by v1.54/10 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: (2nd try) Only /some/ Templates are lost !!
Dear Roelof, --->>> Roelof Otten / Freitag, 21.12.01, 13:35:58 (2nd try) Only /some/ Templates are lost !! > As far as I can see, the folder templates are stored in a file named > account.flx But in that same file your complete folder setup is being > kept. > [...] > Are you sure you've kept *some* folder templates or are you mistaking > address book templates for folder templates, since all folder > templates are being stored in the same file. Thank you for the explanation. I will have a try. Yes you read it right! In one Account there are Folders where I lost my Templates and in the same Account some Folders they are still there. I likte to add that I've changed in the same time from v1.53t to v1.54b10. Do you think this could have to do with it?? ===><===--==--==--==--==--==--== I like to wish to all of the Members of this ML a 'Merry Christmas' and a 'Happy New Year' May you have a lot of health, happynes and wisdom! ===><===--==--==--==--==--==--== -- best regards Eddie Powered by v1.54 Beta/10 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 PGP (public) is available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Spammers on the list?
David... PA>> I put yahoo.com, excite.com & hotmail.com in my selective download PA>> filter. Now I almost never get spam. Simple. > But what about legitimate mail from any of those domains? You won't > get that too. This looks a little bit like shooting a bug with a > bazooka. Yes, it's a bit drastic. Akin to mining my drive to keep out salesmen etc... I only use it on my personal mail address and I did have to take Yahoo off because I have a couple of friends who use it but the others... I only know one person who uses hotmail and that's my ex-girlfriend so I'm not missing much there. Personaly don't know of ANYONE who uses excite. To my knowledge it's soley used by spam merchants. At the moment I'm sending one message a day at least to the yahoo abuse center. It's annoying. -- PRAEst76 http://www.escapism.co.uk/praest76 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Numbers
Hello Peter, On 21 Dec 2001 at 10:19:14 you wrote (at least in part): >> seems you missed the by accident :-) PA> Not accident, incompetence. I've been told this before, but for some PA> reason didn't fix it. :) Nobody 's perfect. Change it in your accounts and master quick templates and you should be done for next 150 aeons :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/18 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) I used to have a psychic girlfriend but she dumped me before we met. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Numbers
Hello Januk, On 21 Dec 2001 at 10:43:52 you wrote (at least in part): >>> you can disable it in "Account Properties" / "Templates" >>> / "Reply" - Option "Use reply numbering in the subject line". PA>> Not in this version. I'll probably need to register first. JA> No, it is a beta feature. In the current release, you must use the JA> %SINGLERE macro in any reply template where you want the numbering JA> turned off. *argh* .. my mistake .. didn't double check before writing the message and current Beta series is long enough me not remembering not every single change compared to last stable I'm sorry. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/18 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) The Meek don't want it -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: (2nd try) Only /some/ Templates are lost !!
21 Dec 2001, 09:53:09, Eddie Castelli wrote: > Dear readers from 'TB!udl List', > Some days ago I had to move my TB!datas to a other drive due to lack > of memory. Now I found that on all Accounts I lost my templates except > on some particular folders. As I have generally kept my folder > structure as is I wonder why or how this could happen. > The Data have being moved from 'Old' to 'New'. The Subfolder ...\mail > has being moved to ...\ABdb: > Old Dataplace: >>New Dataplace: > d1:\TB!ml\news\...>> d2:\TB!ml\data\news\... > ...\ACC01 ...\ACC01 > ...\ACC02 ...\ACC02 > ...\ACC02 ...\ACC02 > ...\......\... > ...\mail ...\ABdb > In most of the Accounts I lost Templates except in some subfolder. > Like _fold-1_, _fold-2_ and _fold-3\ml-1_ have lost the Templates and > _fold-3\ml-2_ and _fold-3\ml-3_ did not. >NEWS-Account --+- Inbox > +- Outbox > +- Sent > +- fold-1 > +- fold-2 > +- fold-3 --+- ML-1 > +- ML-2 > +- ML-3 > If someone could tell me in what File these Templates are Stored I > could extract them from a Backup that is 3 weeks old. As some > Templates are still present I guess there must be a file for every > folder. > Could anybody confirm and give me advise for restoring my Templates? > Thanks you My advice (DO BACKUP ALL YOUR DIRECTORIES BEFORE YOU PERFORM THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS) When I moved The Bat folders from C:\Data\The Bat to D:\Data\The Bat I used ultraedit in order to global replace C:\Data\The Bat with D:\Data\The Bat recursively in all files after that directory. Note that in \\Data\The Bat\ reside ALL my files and ALL my accounts. Of course the strings "C:\Data\The Bat" and "D:\Data\The Bat" have the same size and I really don't know what happens if you global replace strings of different size. Before doing that you should ask Ritlabs about. -- /\/\ || George M. Menegakis - System Administrator || || Centre of Communications and Networking|| || Iraklion Campus - University Of Crete || || mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], icq: 4557532 || || phone: +30 81 393 305, fax:+30 81 39 3318 || \/\/ -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Another filter problem.
Hello Alberto, On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:29:59 +0100GMT (20-12-01, 18:29 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: AA> I receive two kind of mail for my web site: the first contains a AA> unique code and personal data; The second mail is a confirm containing AA> the same code and the . AA> I need to know if it's possible to filter the second mail so that the AA> program print the first mail with the same code. I'm afraid you'll have to trigger some external program with some database functions. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: (2nd try) Only /some/ Templates are lost !!
Hello Eddie, On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:53:09 +0100GMT (21-12-2001, 8:53 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: EC> Some days ago I had to move my TB!datas to a other drive due to lack EC> of memory. Now I found that on all Accounts I lost my templates except EC> on some particular folders. As I have generally kept my folder EC> structure as is I wonder why or how this could happen. As far as I can see, the folder templates are stored in a file named account.flx But in that same file your complete folder setup is being kept. So replacing your current account.flx will cause problems, since you have 'generally' kept your folder structure. Best way to keep your current folder structure is to create a new account, close TB and place a restored account.flx in the new account directory. Start TB and you'll see your old folder structure created in your new account. Now you can copy and paste your missing folder templates to your active account. (repeat this as often as you want for every account) As far as filter templates are concerned, they can be found in the account.srx file (together with the filters). Are you sure you've kept *some* folder templates or are you mistaking address book templates for folder templates, since all folder templates are being stored in the same file. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
add record to address book from command line
Hello All, Does anybody know how I can add record to address book from command line? Or may be anybody knows format of address book files? I need it to make syncronization between my Palm address book and The Bat! address book. -- Best regards, Max mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Spammers on the list?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, On 21 Dec 2001 at 05:22:47 +, Peter Adams [PA] wrote concerning 'Spammers on the list?': PA> I put yahoo.com, excite.com & hotmail.com in my selective download PA> filter. Now I almost never get spam. Simple. But what about legitimate mail from any of those domains? You won't get that too. This looks a little bit like shooting a bug with a bazooka. - -- Best regards, David ** 007 of Borg: "Assimilate and Let Die." ** [TB! 1.54 Beta/18] [Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2] [Running on a Celeron 800@1176 256 Mb RAM] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 Comment: PGPKeys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_PGP_key iQA/AwUBPCMOP1K9yf5+yp9NEQJ4FQCfRl0ytz24s3U4gQRxs6Sqj49V+qAAnRXs v+AWYRRgQNngTw13rx389L/W =l5Jw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Remove attachment from message
Hi Marc, On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:35:35 +0100GMT (21/12/2001, 17:35 +0800GMT), Marc van Breemen wrote: MvB> I normally want the attachments to be encoded in the message (no MvB> seperate file). But somtimes, f.e. when the attachment is very large, I MvB> want to keep it in a seperate attachment directory. MvB> So, is it possible to seperate the attachment from the message but MvB> keeping the link? No. When you choose "Keep attachments in seperate directory" on account level, TB will insert another X-header into the mail, which contains the link. If you don't have this option set, there will be no such header. There is no option to seperate attachments on a case-by-case basis. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Remove attachment from message
Hi, I normally want the attachments to be encoded in the message (no seperate file). But somtimes, f.e. when the attachment is very large, I want to keep it in a seperate attachment directory. So, is it possible to seperate the attachment from the message but keeping the link? -- Best regards, Marc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Missing Mail Messages
Hi, Can anybody help with this problem. I have the Bat operating on a Windows 98 network with one PC set up as server and another two PCs operating in client mode. We are all sharing a single account with a common mailbox and sub folders underneath and this appeared to be working very well. However, I have recently created 2 new folders on the server PC and imported mail messages into them from MS Outlook Express. The problem is that although both the folders and the messages are visible on the server, only the folders can be seen on the two client pc's ie no messages in them. I have tried re-booting all machines, however to no avail. Does any one have any ideas ??? Regards, Peter Hickey UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, JB mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Another filter problem.
Hi Alberto, On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:29:59 +0100GMT (21/12/2001, 01:29 +0800GMT), Alberto Almagioni wrote: AA> Oki this is the classical one million dollar question I'm gearing up... AA> (but I can not give one million dollar for the answer). ...and slowing down. ;-) AA> I need to know if it's possible to filter the second mail so that the AA> program print the first mail with the same code. You need triggered by one mail to print another mail. Unfortunately, this is not possible. A quick workaround does not come to mind, either. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Numbers
Hello Peter, An archeological dig discovered that on Friday, December 21, 2001 at 09:19 GMT +, Peter Adams [PA] typed the following: >> you can disable it in "Account Properties" / "Templates" >> / "Reply" - Option "Use reply numbering in the subject line". PA> Not in this version. I'll probably need to register first. No, it is a beta feature. In the current release, you must use the %SINGLERE macro in any reply template where you want the numbering turned off. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Is it OK to use the AM radio after noon? -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
R-emove attachment from message
Hi, I normally want the attachments to be encoded in the message (no seperate file). But somtimes, f.e. when the attachment is very large, I want to keep it in a seperate attachment directory. So, is it possible to seperate the attachment from the message but keeping the link? -- Best regards, Marc mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Numbers
Peter... > TB! numbers the replies to a subject with an increasing number. This > is default but prepared to be switched off on account basis. > If you don't like it (and it really does only make sense if everybody > would use it) you can disable it in "Account Properties" / "Templates" > / "Reply" - Option "Use reply numbering in the subject line". Not in this version. I'll probably need to register first. > BTW: the correct signature delimiter is > > seems you missed the by accident :-) Not accident, incompetence. I've been told this before, but for some reason didn't fix it. :) -- PRAEst76 http://www.escapism.co.uk/praest76 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Numbers
Hello Peter, 21. december 2001, 9:04:44, you wrote: PA> Can someone tell me why when I reply to something I get a number in PA> brackets after the RE: Like Re:[2] etc? Seems awful messy. What's it PA> mean? It's called a reply counter. If you don't like it, put %SINGLERE to your reply template. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/18 on Windows 98 4.10.67766446. A ] All things considered, life is 9-to-5 against. -- Nick the Greek's Law -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Numbers
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Roelof Otten wrote: > On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:04:44 +GMT (21-12-01, 9:04 +0100GMT, where > I live), you wrote: > > PA> Can someone tell me why when I reply to something I get a number in > PA> brackets after the RE: Like Re:[2] etc? Seems awful messy. What's it > PA> mean? > > It's called a reply-counter and is intended to show how often you've > replied. It can be disabled by placing %singlere in your reply > template. in upcoming 1.54 version will be option for this feature in Account properties so You will be able to do this without macro usage. -- Marek Mikus Czech Support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.ipex.cz -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Numbers
Hello Peter, On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:04:44 +GMT (21-12-01, 9:04 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: PA> Can someone tell me why when I reply to something I get a number in PA> brackets after the RE: Like Re:[2] etc? Seems awful messy. What's it PA> mean? It's called a reply-counter and is intended to show how often you've replied. It can be disabled by placing %singlere in your reply template. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Spammers on the list?
Hello Januk, On 21 Dec 2001 at 03:53:52 you wrote (at least in part): JA> I tend to get a few people a month contacting me. [...] JA> The message you got seems to be in that vein. I'd agree with you, but I received the same mail as Dwight. Absolutely identically. Unfortunately I accidentally answered to fast, but seeing Dwight got the same mail it only could be spam. *Hitting my forehand on my brown about being this stupid to extra validate my e-mail-address* That's the price one pays for wanting to help :-( -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Can you whistle a telephone number? -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Numbers
Hello Peter, On 21 Dec 2001 at 09:04:44 you wrote (at least in part): PA> Can someone tell me why when I reply to something I get a number in PA> brackets after the RE: Like Re:[2] etc? Seems awful messy. What's it PA> mean? TB! numbers the replies to a subject with an increasing number. This is default but prepared to be switched off on account basis. If you don't like it (and it really does only make sense if everybody would use it) you can disable it in "Account Properties" / "Templates" / "Reply" - Option "Use reply numbering in the subject line". If you want to disable it not overall but for defined folders or recipients you can add the macro '%SINGLERE' in the specific reply template. PA> -- BTW: the correct signature delimiter is seems you missed the by accident :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) A day without sunshine is like night. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Numbers
tbudl... Can someone tell me why when I reply to something I get a number in brackets after the RE: Like Re:[2] etc? Seems awful messy. What's it mean? -- PRAEst76 http://www.escapism.co.uk/praest76 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[4]: Spammers on the list?
*... PA>> I put yahoo.com, excite.com & hotmail.com in my selective download PA>> filter. Now I almost never get spam. Simple. > sORRY TO TALK LIKE THS BUT HOW DO YOU GET tHE bAT to act like That?. > Whre do i set that up?. Head up to the Menu and select Sorting Office / Filters under the Account menu. Pick Selective download and hit New. From there you can configure stuff you don't want to download. From the advanced tab you can chose to ignore the mail or kill the mail. That way The Bat will delete that stuff from the server and not even bother downloading it. -- PRAEst76 http://www.escapism.co.uk/praest76 -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
