Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
For sure. There was a surplus store in Santa Maria that got bits of space qualified stuff from Vandenberg AFB, and, of course, C&H in Pasadena. I got a bunch of things from both, including a number os qual'd spacecraft transmitters and sensors and some Apollo and Saturn items. Kewl stuff! -John = > Things like that DO show up as surplus but I wouldn't call it a market. > When we excess things at JPL (and that includes spare flight hardware), > it goes on a list, and other NASA centers, and then gov't agencies, and > then universities/colleges/educational institutions get a crack at it. > Finally, it will get scrapped. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
Jeffrey Pawlan wrote: On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Magnus Danielson wrote: Dear Raj, Oh, sorry, needed a few extra. Wanted to recover the rubidiums and put some on Ebay. I gave a lecture about antennas for operation on 1296MHz last week and mentioned that my vacuum tube power abplifier was damaged by a gassy tube. I want to replace it with a solid state amp. One of the engineers present suggested that I find a GPS satellite on the surplus market and pull the the power amplifier out of it. He obviously did not know that satellites , even spares, do not show up on the surplus market. Things like that DO show up as surplus but I wouldn't call it a market. When we excess things at JPL (and that includes spare flight hardware), it goes on a list, and other NASA centers, and then gov't agencies, and then universities/colleges/educational institutions get a crack at it. Finally, it will get scrapped. There is also the ITAR and export controls issue. (an interesting question I'll have to ask... if you have a rad hard widget for a spacecraft (clearly ITAR), and you surplus it in a way that makes it impossible to know it's Class S, is it still controlled..) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
I'm at 43S, 172E and the minimum number of birds I'm seeing in the middle of the days is 4 with a maximum of 12 each night. No sign of a let up here, guano all over the place :) Steve Rooke On 26/03/2010, Raj wrote: > Rob, I am 13N 77E approx. > > Bob, I checked everytime and no birds. I setup two GPSDOs with seperate > antennas and both went to hold over. > > Its been happening ever day at some times. Even I get the error on this page > http://www.n2yo.com/whats-up/?c=20 > > Lady heather says the doppler is high or something and satellites not > usable. Sometimes there are 3 sats overhead and none usable! > > At 26-03-10, you wrote: >>What's your latitude Raj? >> >>Rob K >> >>-Original Message- >>From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On >>Behalf Of Bob Camp >>Sent: 25 March 2010 11:15 PM >>To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >>Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites >> >>Hi >> >>I still think it's a bird on the antenna. >> >>Bob >> >>On Mar 25, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: >> >>> J. Forster wrote: >>>> From an unnamed, but VERY credible source: >>>> >>>> "> It might be that the DoD is turning the civilian signals off in >>>> combat >>>> >>>>> areas to deny GPS to the Taliban and others. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Quite possible. This countermeasure was discussed more than ten years >>>> ago. >>>> >>>> It is possible to turn of the civilian signals -- or to leave then on >>>> but _jam_ them within a selected area -- without interfering with US >>>> military use of the satellites. A modern military does not need the C/ >>>> A code to acquire lock on a satellite. It can acquire the encrypted P >>>> code directly." >>> The preferred method of controlling the access to GPS within a region is >>> GPS jammers, and the full set of efforts being spent on strengthening >>> the allied forces availability to signal is to ensure ability to survive >>> from jamming signal, which includes removing need for C/A locking prior >>> to Y-code lock with direct lock methods, transfer of time, solutions and >>> ephemeris data, and eventually means to direct additional power towards >>> the area and the improved M-code. >>> >>> Turning of the C/A code of a satellite will effect the 1/3 of the earth >>> area that it sees, and for that to be effective in a certain area, you >>> need to do that to 6-8 sats to turn it off, and that will significantly >>> reduce the GPS availability for so large geographical areas that things >>> they want to work will run closer to failure. So no, turning of C/A code >>> is not what they want to do it. They can, but they want to avoid it. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Magnus >>> >>> > > -- > Raj, VU2ZAP > Bangalore, India. > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV & G8KVD A man with one clock knows what time it is; A man with two clocks is never quite sure. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
Thanks Mark, I was fiddling around with 2D/3D when I saw that error message. I experimented in comparing two GPSDOs, one with full sky and one with limited visibility. All settings kept identical. There was very slow phase difference noted within a narrow range. The exception was when there were not enough sats then I saw sudden fast changes. >That is DOP is too high... dilution of precision... the sats are in a poor >position for doing fixes. You have probably put the receiver into a 2D or 3D >fix mode (not overdetermined clock mode). From the S)urvey menu, select >receiver mode 5. >_ >Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection. >http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ >___ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >and follow the instructions there. -- Raj, VU2ZAP Bangalore, India. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
Rob, I am 13N 77E approx. Bob, I checked everytime and no birds. I setup two GPSDOs with seperate antennas and both went to hold over. Its been happening ever day at some times. Even I get the error on this page http://www.n2yo.com/whats-up/?c=20 Lady heather says the doppler is high or something and satellites not usable. Sometimes there are 3 sats overhead and none usable! At 26-03-10, you wrote: >What's your latitude Raj? > >Rob K > >-Original Message- >From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On >Behalf Of Bob Camp >Sent: 25 March 2010 11:15 PM >To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites > >Hi > >I still think it's a bird on the antenna. > >Bob > >On Mar 25, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: > >> J. Forster wrote: >>> From an unnamed, but VERY credible source: >>> >>> "> It might be that the DoD is turning the civilian signals off in combat >>> >>>> areas to deny GPS to the Taliban and others. >>>> >>> >>> Quite possible. This countermeasure was discussed more than ten years >>> ago. >>> >>> It is possible to turn of the civilian signals -- or to leave then on >>> but _jam_ them within a selected area -- without interfering with US >>> military use of the satellites. A modern military does not need the C/ >>> A code to acquire lock on a satellite. It can acquire the encrypted P >>> code directly." >> The preferred method of controlling the access to GPS within a region is >> GPS jammers, and the full set of efforts being spent on strengthening >> the allied forces availability to signal is to ensure ability to survive >> from jamming signal, which includes removing need for C/A locking prior >> to Y-code lock with direct lock methods, transfer of time, solutions and >> ephemeris data, and eventually means to direct additional power towards >> the area and the improved M-code. >> >> Turning of the C/A code of a satellite will effect the 1/3 of the earth >> area that it sees, and for that to be effective in a certain area, you >> need to do that to 6-8 sats to turn it off, and that will significantly >> reduce the GPS availability for so large geographical areas that things >> they want to work will run closer to failure. So no, turning of C/A code >> is not what they want to do it. They can, but they want to avoid it. >> >> Cheers, >> Magnus >> >> -- Raj, VU2ZAP Bangalore, India. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites (Mike Feher)
Just went to a farm meeting on GPS farm machinery control. At least one equipment mfgr commented that they use GPS but have Glosnoss ability for the times that GPS is limited here in the states. N0UU ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
I do not think so. If that were the case then the satellite terminals would be considered as classified and handling would be a lot different. Certainly, these terminals are compatible with SAASM, but of course they are not in use. Most use simple Trimble, Brandywine, Motorola receiver boards, even boards from our own Said Jackson of Jackson Labs, and we have about a thousand of these in theater. Regards - Mike Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ 07731 732-886-5960 -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. Forster Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:27 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites >From an unnamed, but VERY credible source: "> It might be that the DoD is turning the civilian signals off in combat > areas to deny GPS to the Taliban and others. Quite possible. This countermeasure was discussed more than ten years ago. It is possible to turn of the civilian signals -- or to leave then on but _jam_ them within a selected area -- without interfering with US military use of the satellites. A modern military does not need the C/ A code to acquire lock on a satellite. It can acquire the encrypted P code directly." -John = > I do not believe that is the case as the terminals I work on, used mostly > by > the Army & the Marines, use relatively cheap GPSs in them and we have them > all over, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, etc.. 73 - Mike > > Mike B. Feher, N4FS > 89 Arnold Blvd. > Howell, NJ 07731 > 732-886-5960 > > > > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On > Behalf Of J. Forster > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:37 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites > > It might be that the DoD is turning the civilian signals off in combat > areas to deny GPS to the Taliban and others. > > -John > > == > > >> >> Ahem!, time-nuts. Please release all GPS satellites you are holding up >> on >> the other side of the world. I don't seem to have any over my head over >> Asia. >> >> I wonder what happens to those guided missiles that depend of GPS or >> those >> in vehicles looking for directions ? >> >> Cheers >> >> -- >> Raj, VU2ZAP >> Bangalore, India. >> >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
What's your latitude Raj? Rob K -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: 25 March 2010 11:15 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites Hi I still think it's a bird on the antenna. Bob On Mar 25, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: > J. Forster wrote: >> From an unnamed, but VERY credible source: >> >> "> It might be that the DoD is turning the civilian signals off in combat >> >>> areas to deny GPS to the Taliban and others. >>> >> >> Quite possible. This countermeasure was discussed more than ten years >> ago. >> >> It is possible to turn of the civilian signals -- or to leave then on >> but _jam_ them within a selected area -- without interfering with US >> military use of the satellites. A modern military does not need the C/ >> A code to acquire lock on a satellite. It can acquire the encrypted P >> code directly." > The preferred method of controlling the access to GPS within a region is > GPS jammers, and the full set of efforts being spent on strengthening > the allied forces availability to signal is to ensure ability to survive > from jamming signal, which includes removing need for C/A locking prior > to Y-code lock with direct lock methods, transfer of time, solutions and > ephemeris data, and eventually means to direct additional power towards > the area and the improved M-code. > > Turning of the C/A code of a satellite will effect the 1/3 of the earth > area that it sees, and for that to be effective in a certain area, you > need to do that to 6-8 sats to turn it off, and that will significantly > reduce the GPS availability for so large geographical areas that things > they want to work will run closer to failure. So no, turning of C/A code > is not what they want to do it. They can, but they want to avoid it. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
Hi I still think it's a bird on the antenna. Bob On Mar 25, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: > J. Forster wrote: >> From an unnamed, but VERY credible source: >> >> "> It might be that the DoD is turning the civilian signals off in combat >> >>> areas to deny GPS to the Taliban and others. >>> >> >> Quite possible. This countermeasure was discussed more than ten years >> ago. >> >> It is possible to turn of the civilian signals -- or to leave then on >> but _jam_ them within a selected area -- without interfering with US >> military use of the satellites. A modern military does not need the C/ >> A code to acquire lock on a satellite. It can acquire the encrypted P >> code directly." > The preferred method of controlling the access to GPS within a region is > GPS jammers, and the full set of efforts being spent on strengthening > the allied forces availability to signal is to ensure ability to survive > from jamming signal, which includes removing need for C/A locking prior > to Y-code lock with direct lock methods, transfer of time, solutions and > ephemeris data, and eventually means to direct additional power towards > the area and the improved M-code. > > Turning of the C/A code of a satellite will effect the 1/3 of the earth > area that it sees, and for that to be effective in a certain area, you > need to do that to 6-8 sats to turn it off, and that will significantly > reduce the GPS availability for so large geographical areas that things > they want to work will run closer to failure. So no, turning of C/A code > is not what they want to do it. They can, but they want to avoid it. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
J. Forster wrote: From an unnamed, but VERY credible source: "> It might be that the DoD is turning the civilian signals off in combat areas to deny GPS to the Taliban and others. Quite possible. This countermeasure was discussed more than ten years ago. It is possible to turn of the civilian signals -- or to leave then on but _jam_ them within a selected area -- without interfering with US military use of the satellites. A modern military does not need the C/ A code to acquire lock on a satellite. It can acquire the encrypted P code directly." The preferred method of controlling the access to GPS within a region is GPS jammers, and the full set of efforts being spent on strengthening the allied forces availability to signal is to ensure ability to survive from jamming signal, which includes removing need for C/A locking prior to Y-code lock with direct lock methods, transfer of time, solutions and ephemeris data, and eventually means to direct additional power towards the area and the improved M-code. Turning of the C/A code of a satellite will effect the 1/3 of the earth area that it sees, and for that to be effective in a certain area, you need to do that to 6-8 sats to turn it off, and that will significantly reduce the GPS availability for so large geographical areas that things they want to work will run closer to failure. So no, turning of C/A code is not what they want to do it. They can, but they want to avoid it. Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
>From an unnamed, but VERY credible source: "> It might be that the DoD is turning the civilian signals off in combat > areas to deny GPS to the Taliban and others. Quite possible. This countermeasure was discussed more than ten years ago. It is possible to turn of the civilian signals -- or to leave then on but _jam_ them within a selected area -- without interfering with US military use of the satellites. A modern military does not need the C/ A code to acquire lock on a satellite. It can acquire the encrypted P code directly." -John = > I do not believe that is the case as the terminals I work on, used mostly > by > the Army & the Marines, use relatively cheap GPSs in them and we have them > all over, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, etc.. 73 - Mike > > Mike B. Feher, N4FS > 89 Arnold Blvd. > Howell, NJ 07731 > 732-886-5960 > > > > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On > Behalf Of J. Forster > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:37 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites > > It might be that the DoD is turning the civilian signals off in combat > areas to deny GPS to the Taliban and others. > > -John > > == > > >> >> Ahem!, time-nuts. Please release all GPS satellites you are holding up >> on >> the other side of the world. I don't seem to have any over my head over >> Asia. >> >> I wonder what happens to those guided missiles that depend of GPS or >> those >> in vehicles looking for directions ? >> >> Cheers >> >> -- >> Raj, VU2ZAP >> Bangalore, India. >> >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
Link to new story: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20001083-503543.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704117304575137541465235972.html Stanley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
I do not believe that is the case as the terminals I work on, used mostly by the Army & the Marines, use relatively cheap GPSs in them and we have them all over, Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, etc.. 73 - Mike Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ 07731 732-886-5960 -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. Forster Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:37 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites It might be that the DoD is turning the civilian signals off in combat areas to deny GPS to the Taliban and others. -John == > > Ahem!, time-nuts. Please release all GPS satellites you are holding up on > the other side of the world. I don't seem to have any over my head over > Asia. > > I wonder what happens to those guided missiles that depend of GPS or those > in vehicles looking for directions ? > > Cheers > > -- > Raj, VU2ZAP > Bangalore, India. > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Magnus Danielson wrote: Dear Raj, Oh, sorry, needed a few extra. Wanted to recover the rubidiums and put some on Ebay. I gave a lecture about antennas for operation on 1296MHz last week and mentioned that my vacuum tube power abplifier was damaged by a gassy tube. I want to replace it with a solid state amp. One of the engineers present suggested that I find a GPS satellite on the surplus market and pull the the power amplifier out of it. He obviously did not know that satellites , even spares, do not show up on the surplus market. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
News story a few days back that in parts of Afghanistan wireless which has 99% vs 1% wired phones would go out every nite, on orders of the Taleban, to prevent civilians from reporting activity to Coalition forces. Think the wireless networks would last a little longer than a few hours without timing info but you never know , does your cell phone still work? Stanley - Original Message From: paul swed To: j...@quik.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 12:17:10 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites They wouldn't really do that would they? ;-) On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:36 PM, J. Forster wrote: > It might be that the DoD is turning the civilian signals off in combat > areas to deny GPS to the Taliban and others. > > -John > > == > > > > > > Ahem!, time-nuts. Please release all GPS satellites you are holding up on > > the other side of the world. I don't seem to have any over my head over > > Asia. > > > > I wonder what happens to those guided missiles that depend of GPS or > those > > in vehicles looking for directions ? > > > > Cheers > > > > -- > > Raj, VU2ZAP > > Bangalore, India. > > > > > > ___ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
Dear Raj, Raj wrote: Ahem!, time-nuts. Please release all GPS satellites you are holding up on the other side of the world. I don't seem to have any over my head over Asia. I wonder what happens to those guided missiles that depend of GPS or those in vehicles looking for directions ? Oh, sorry, needed a few extra. Wanted to recover the rubidiums and put some on Ebay. Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
They wouldn't really do that would they? ;-) On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:36 PM, J. Forster wrote: > It might be that the DoD is turning the civilian signals off in combat > areas to deny GPS to the Taliban and others. > > -John > > == > > > > > > Ahem!, time-nuts. Please release all GPS satellites you are holding up on > > the other side of the world. I don't seem to have any over my head over > > Asia. > > > > I wonder what happens to those guided missiles that depend of GPS or > those > > in vehicles looking for directions ? > > > > Cheers > > > > -- > > Raj, VU2ZAP > > Bangalore, India. > > > > > > ___ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
Hi Is there a very large bird making a nest on top of your antenna? I *have* had that problem my self. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Raj Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:04 AM To: Time Nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites Ahem!, time-nuts. Please release all GPS satellites you are holding up on the other side of the world. I don't seem to have any over my head over Asia. I wonder what happens to those guided missiles that depend of GPS or those in vehicles looking for directions ? Cheers -- Raj, VU2ZAP Bangalore, India. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Missing GPS satellites
It might be that the DoD is turning the civilian signals off in combat areas to deny GPS to the Taliban and others. -John == > > Ahem!, time-nuts. Please release all GPS satellites you are holding up on > the other side of the world. I don't seem to have any over my head over > Asia. > > I wonder what happens to those guided missiles that depend of GPS or those > in vehicles looking for directions ? > > Cheers > > -- > Raj, VU2ZAP > Bangalore, India. > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
