Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Bruce Lanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My Trimble ACE-III Has been tracking PRN32. Works AOK. > Bruce Just fired it up a little while ago, but the FastraX itrax03 (based on the uNav uN2110) also tracks PRN32. CK -- GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
My Trimble ACE-III Has been tracking PRN32. Works AOK. Bruce - Original Message - From: "Morris Odell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable >> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:49:40 +0100 (CET) >> From: Magnus Danielson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable >> >> The interesting thing would be for really old systems if they are able to >> track >> it or not. Like old 6-channel receivers and such. > > The old Oncore VP in my nixie clock was tracking PRN32 as part of its > timing > solution this morning down here in Melbourne Australia. > > Morris > > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 > 4:34 PM > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:49:40 +0100 (CET) > From: Magnus Danielson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable > > The interesting thing would be for really old systems if they are able to > track > it or not. Like old 6-channel receivers and such. The old Oncore VP in my nixie clock was tracking PRN32 as part of its timing solution this morning down here in Melbourne Australia. Morris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Chris wrote: >> Is there anyone else in the group, that has an AC12, and can say if it >> can use PRN 32? > I have one. I'll set it up for a test tonight. All is well Chris, my AC12 this morning is happily tracking PRN 32. I guess what threw me yesterday was not realising that almanacs from different GPS satellites with the "same" ToA (Time of Applicability) - can have different contents. I guess it is a reminder that each GPS satellite is autonomous in both its clock and transmission of almanac data. That at anyone time, there can be different versions of almanac data being transmitted to different parts of the world from different GPS satellites. I had not followed so closely before the "delay" from when a GPS satellite is activated in space - to how long it takes for almanacs to be updated in "other" satellites and for how long that may take to end up in a GPS receiver. In hindsight, I should have had a go at changing the "health status" of PRN 32 in an older almanac and uploaded that to the GPS receiver. That way the GPS receiver would have actively searched for the PRN code. That would have saved having to wait so long for a "good" almanac to be transmitted from "another" GPS satellite in the fleet. Thanks Chris. Regards, Kiwi Geoff. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
I left my Garmin Quest on overnight, and PRN32 is now listed and tracking. Still nothing showing on the HP IPAQ. Rob K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kiwi Geoff Sent: 27 February 2008 23:09 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable Hello All, So far all my GPS receivers (Motorola GT+, and various Garmin) have all managed to receive PRN 32 - even though in some cases it took 12 hours for the receivers almanac to be updated to one that has PRN 32 marked as healthy. However I may have found one GPS that is acting "suspicious" in regards the PRN 32 issue. I am pretty sure I have seen someone else in this group mention an AC12 as per: http://pro.magellangps.com/en/products/product.asp?PRODID=1003 I have had my AC12 (an otherwise great GPS for doing DGPS down to centimeters) running continuously for 24 hours, and examining an NMEA log today, there is zero mention of PRN 32. Maybe it has been unlucky with an almanac upload or something, but to me it is a little suspicious after this amount of time. I am now wondering if the AC12 has an issue in handling a PRN of 32. Is there anyone else in the group, that has an AC12, and can say if it can use PRN 32? Thanks, Kiwi Geoff. http://www.geocities.com/kiwi_36_nz ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Chris wrote: > What firmware version do you have? I have BQ04. The changelog says > that they deleted 2 inactive SBAS PRNs, but nothing one way or the > other. I'll check w/ tech support I have BQ00 Chris. Also I had disabled the SBAS function (doesn't apply "Down Under") so I have a 12 channel machine, rather than 10 channels with 2 SBAS correlators. However - I may have jumped the gun Chris. I just downloaded the almanac from my AC12 and it now reports PRN 32 as per: **nmea2alm** Week 1468 almanac for PRN-32 **nmea2alm** ID: 32 Health: 000 Eccentricity: 1.393890381E-02 Time of Applicability(s): 5.89824E+05 Orbital Inclination(rad): 9.704250086E-01 Rate of Right Ascen(r/s): -7.680319916E-09 SQRT(A) (m^1/2):5.154642090E+03 Right Ascen at TOA(rad):2.595522083E+00 Argument of Perigee(rad): -1.317562164E+00 Mean Anom(rad): 8.926644664E-01 Af0(s): 2.403259277E-04 Af1(s/s): 7.275957614E-12 week: 1468 So I should have waited longer than 24 hours after the satellite was first switched on! I guess depending on where you live, and the update cycle of GPS satellites with new almanacs - it can take up to 30 hours before some GPS receivers (running continuously) are aware of a GPS being made healthy! So the reason my AC12 didn't receive PRN 32 this morning, was clearly because it had an almanac that had PRN 32 marked unhealthy. So maybe tomorow morning (when PRN 32 next smiles down on New Zealand) all should be fine and dandy Chris! So no panic about testing Chris, the AC12 may be OK Waiting, waiting, waiting! Regards, Kiwi Geoff. http://www.geocities.com/kiwi_36_nz ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Kiwi Geoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However my AC12 only outputs "30" almanac messages, it misses # 7 (as > it should) but it stops at 31, so I think this is a strong indication > that 32 is too high a number, and that the firmware may only handle > PRN's from 1 to 31. > > So I will be most interested to see if your AC12 can receive PRN 32 Chris! What firmware version do you have? I have BQ04. The changelog says that they deleted 2 inactive SBAS PRNs, but nothing one way or the other. I'll check w/ tech support CK -- GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Chris Kuethe wrote: >> Is there anyone else in the group, that has an AC12, and can say if it >> can use PRN 32? > I have one. I'll set it up for a test tonight. Thanks Chris, methinks you will not receive PRN 32 !!! To back up my suspicion - I just downloaded the almanac from my AC12. It has a ToA of 503,808 seconds which is the same ToA of other almanacs I have that have PRN 32 marked as healthy - so I am confident my AC12 has an up to date almanac. However my AC12 only outputs "30" almanac messages, it misses # 7 (as it should) but it stops at 31, so I think this is a strong indication that 32 is too high a number, and that the firmware may only handle PRN's from 1 to 31. So I will be most interested to see if your AC12 can receive PRN 32 Chris! Regards, Kiwi Geoff. http://www.geocities.com/kiwi_36_nz ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Jeff > > My Z3815A also worked (after it acquired a newer almanac). > > I added the Motorola receiver detail since Poul experienced a problem > with dropping PRN32. > Such problems may depend on the firmware version or other factors. > > Bruce > > I'll add mine to the list in case it is of value to anyone. My Z3816A started tracking PRN 32 yesterday. It uses a UT+ receiver. SFTW P/N 98-P36848P SOFTWARE VER 3 SOFTWARE REV 1 SOFTWARE DATE may 28 1999 From messages posted here a while back, this isn't the best or last firmware version. As I recall the problems had to do with 10kHz output but I have never noticed anything weird in the operation of the 3816a. So that version of UT code works for me and picked up 32 yesterday and today. I issued the command :gps:sat:trac:incl? through the serial port on the HP unit and it returned a list with all the numbers from +1, ..., +32 , so it is ready for all of them. I think that should work for z3801a and up. -Rex ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Kiwi Geoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am now wondering if the AC12 has an issue in handling a PRN of 32. > > Is there anyone else in the group, that has an AC12, and can say if it > can use PRN 32? I have one. I'll set it up for a test tonight. CK -- GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Hello All, So far all my GPS receivers (Motorola GT+, and various Garmin) have all managed to receive PRN 32 - even though in some cases it took 12 hours for the receivers almanac to be updated to one that has PRN 32 marked as healthy. However I may have found one GPS that is acting "suspicious" in regards the PRN 32 issue. I am pretty sure I have seen someone else in this group mention an AC12 as per: http://pro.magellangps.com/en/products/product.asp?PRODID=1003 I have had my AC12 (an otherwise great GPS for doing DGPS down to centimeters) running continuously for 24 hours, and examining an NMEA log today, there is zero mention of PRN 32. Maybe it has been unlucky with an almanac upload or something, but to me it is a little suspicious after this amount of time. I am now wondering if the AC12 has an issue in handling a PRN of 32. Is there anyone else in the group, that has an AC12, and can say if it can use PRN 32? Thanks, Kiwi Geoff. http://www.geocities.com/kiwi_36_nz ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Jeff Mock wrote: > My Z3801A finally came around this pass without any external prodding: > http://www.mock.com/test/z3801a/ > > jeff > > Jeff My Z3815A also worked (after it acquired a newer almanac). I added the Motorola receiver detail since Poul experienced a problem with dropping PRN32. Such problems may depend on the firmware version or other factors. Bruce ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
My Z3801A finally came around this pass without any external prodding: http://www.mock.com/test/z3801a/ jeff Bruce Griffiths wrote: > My Motorola M12+T had no problem acquiring and tracking PRN32 once the > new almanac was loaded. > It also had no difficulty in dropping PRN 32 when it dropped below the > horizon. > > Receiver info below: > > Motorola Receiver ID: > COPYRIGHT 1991-2004 MOTOROLA INC. > SFTW P/N # 61-G10268A > SOFTWARE VER # 2 > SOFTWARE REV # 2 > SOFTWARE DATE APR 28 2004 > MODEL #P273T12T17 > HWDR P/N # 2 > SERIAL # P0APLR > MANUFACTUR DATE 4J08 > > Bruce > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
My Motorola M12+T had no problem acquiring and tracking PRN32 once the new almanac was loaded. It also had no difficulty in dropping PRN 32 when it dropped below the horizon. Receiver info below: Motorola Receiver ID: COPYRIGHT 1991-2004 MOTOROLA INC. SFTW P/N # 61-G10268A SOFTWARE VER # 2 SOFTWARE REV # 2 SOFTWARE DATE APR 28 2004 MODEL #P273T12T17 HWDR P/N # 2 SERIAL # P0APLR MANUFACTUR DATE 4J08 Bruce ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Magnus, My Odetics CommSync is tracking this SV OK. The unit has 8 channel Motorola Rxs (not sure which flavour), and mid 90's vintage unit. Rob Kimberley - Original Message - From: "Magnus Danielson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable > Hi! > > While I feel ashamed that my time-lab is in a bit of a mess of lately (and > thus > only one GPS running - still in need of fixing a working interaction and > logging system - it's my Symmetricom 56000 BTW) I have not looked at my > range > of receivers... but my TomTom GO 920T (uses an SiRF chip) did track > happilly on > SVN23/PRN32 more or less directly as I turned it on as I got to work. > > The interesting thing would be for really old systems if they are able to > track > it or not. Like old 6-channel receivers and such. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Hi! While I feel ashamed that my time-lab is in a bit of a mess of lately (and thus only one GPS running - still in need of fixing a working interaction and logging system - it's my Symmetricom 56000 BTW) I have not looked at my range of receivers... but my TomTom GO 920T (uses an SiRF chip) did track happilly on SVN23/PRN32 more or less directly as I turned it on as I got to work. The interesting thing would be for really old systems if they are able to track it or not. Like old 6-channel receivers and such. Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
My Z3815A could see PRN32 last night, but still reported it as unhealthy at ~00:15 UTC, when I went to bed. This morning it was happily tracking it. My (~12year old?) Garmin III was also happily using it. Peter (West London, England) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Have just checked on all my running units here in Nuneaton, UK Odetics CommSync: tracking PRN32 Meinberg LanTime: tracking PRN32 Garmin Quest: not tracking and not listed HP IPAQ 6915: not tracking and not listed Rob Kimberley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Hello, I am receiving also with GARMIN V. / Location FRANKFURT/M / Will chk? the status also with my M12+T and Jupiter-T but need more time. Rgds, Ernie. -Original Message- From: Poul-Henning Kamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 9:30 am Subject: Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Poul-Henning Kamp" writes: >SVN32 just came unline here on a M12+T without needing a reset >Sat Dopler Elev Azi Health Mode SigStr IODE Status Offset > 32 1731 12 336 00 837 61 8a0 0.000867538 ...but it doesn't seem to be able to loose it again :-( Sat Dopler Elev Azi Health Mode SigStr IODE Status Offset 3 66 274 00 855 12 8a0 0.000973319 6 -3182 25 119 00 844 11 8a0 0.000973325 15624 15 47 00 838 78 8a0 0.000973305 16 -2726 42 198 00 851 15 8a0 0.000973320 18519 50 100 00 851 44 8a0 0.000973314 19 2803 36 286 00 849 36 8a0 0.000973320 21 -2402 40 71 00 852 78 8a0 0.000973322 22 2835 36 158 00 849 75 8a1 0.000973319 25 -1756 12 292 00 842 51 8a0 0.000973315 26114 14 36 00 847 42 8a0 0.000973321 27 -375 14 315 00 842 70 8a0 0.000973315 32 00 0 04 841 57 8a0 0.000973313 -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Poul-Henning Kamp" writes: >SVN32 just came unline here on a M12+T without needing a reset >Sat Dopler Elev Azi Health Mode SigStr IODE Status Offset > 32 1731 12 336 00 837 61 8a0 0.000867538 ...but it doesn't seem to be able to loose it again :-( Sat Dopler Elev Azi Health Mode SigStr IODE Status Offset 3 66 274 00 855 12 8a0 0.000973319 6 -3182 25 119 00 844 11 8a0 0.000973325 15624 15 47 00 838 78 8a0 0.000973305 16 -2726 42 198 00 851 15 8a0 0.000973320 18519 50 100 00 851 44 8a0 0.000973314 19 2803 36 286 00 849 36 8a0 0.000973320 21 -2402 40 71 00 852 78 8a0 0.000973322 22 2835 36 158 00 849 75 8a1 0.000973319 25 -1756 12 292 00 842 51 8a0 0.000973315 26114 14 36 00 847 42 8a0 0.000973321 27 -375 14 315 00 842 70 8a0 0.000973315 32 00 0 04 841 57 8a0 0.000973313 -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
My Garmin III Plus locked on PRN32 a few mins ago in Lubbock, TX. The map showed it was a little NE of my zenith. Doug - Original Message - From: "Matt Osborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:33:48 +1300, "Kiwi Geoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>I have tried to pick up PRN32 on various Garmin GPS's but I think it >>is just an almanac issue - may have to wait until tomorrow for those >>to work. >> > > My Garmin eTrex Vista is tracking PRN 32, so you're probably correct. > > -- kc0ukk at msosborn dot com > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:33:48 +1300, "Kiwi Geoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have tried to pick up PRN32 on various Garmin GPS's but I think it >is just an almanac issue - may have to wait until tomorrow for those >to work. > My Garmin eTrex Vista is tracking PRN 32, so you're probably correct. -- kc0ukk at msosborn dot com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
My TrueTime Mark V just picked up PRN32 in Pueblo, Colorado. Raimond ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
At Colima, Mexico, you can track it at: http://resco.ucol.mx/Fury/gpsstat.htm With a nearby M12+T: NTPns > show oncore serial port = /dev/cuad1serial number = P08Q16 state = 12 visible/track/lock = 11/11/11 dop = 0.0 [m] raim_limit 0.01000/0.01000 mask angle 10/10 2008-02-27 00:18:57.000296549 Leap second info: 2025-08-17 00:00:00 NONE 551317263 seconds (6380 days) from now lat = 69277930 (19.243869), lon = 3921638626 (-103.702408), ht 53031 (530.31) http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=19.243869,-103.702408&spn=0.03,0.08&t=k flat = 69277930, flon = 3921638626, fht 53031 rcv_status = 0x8400 = PosHold NarrowTrack AntOK raim_solution = OK, raim_status = detection+isolation raim_removed = raim_1sigma = 0.00033 [s] raim_sawtooth = 9 [ns] clock_bias = -19 [ns] osc_offset = 81240 [Hz] osc_temp = 28.5 [C] utc_status = 0xce = enabled decoded utc_offset = 14 site_survey = 0 (~0 sec left) Sat Dopler Elev Azi Health Mode SigStr IODE Status Offset 1 -466 51 315 00 848 55 8a1 0.000244979 3 -1530 13 233 00 839116 8a1 0.000244998 5336 12 79 00 842 4 8a0 0.000244972 14 -1506 46 4 00 848 51 8a0 0.000244984 18 -1370 23 91 00 844 65 8a0 0.000244988 19 -925 17 263 00 843 78 8a0 0.000244986 21 -3753 11 149 00 837 71 8a0 0.000244967 22 47 49 50 00 848 18 8a0 0.000244986 30 1170 15 98 00 843 35 8a0 0.000244984 31 1748 62 184 00 850 79 8a1 0.000244987 32 1165 46 358 00 853 62 8a0 0.000244984 NTPns > gr ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:59:46 +0100 (CET), Magnus Danielson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi! > >The SVN23/PRN32 will be set useable 2008-02-26T18:00:00Z. > PRN 32 is being tracked here in Minneapolis, MN on a M12M-T. Looks good! -- kc0ukk at msosborn dot com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
SVN32 just came unline here on a M12+T without needing a reset NTPns > show oncore 0 serial port = /dev/cuad4serial number = P05YWT state = 12 visible/track/lock = 9/9/9 dop = 0.0 [m] raim_limit 0.01000/0.01000 mask angle 10/10 2008-02-26 23:40:34.000923899 Leap second info: 2025-08-17 00:00:00 NONE 551319566 seconds (6381 days) from now lat = 200823882 (55.784412), lon = 45071560 (12.519878), ht 9289 (92.89) http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=55.784412,12.519878&spn=0.03,0.08&t=k flat = 200823882, flon = 45071560, fht 9289 rcv_status = 0x8400 = PosHold NarrowTrack AntOK raim_solution = OK, raim_status = detection+isolation raim_removed = raim_1sigma = 0.00036 [s] raim_sawtooth = 1 [ns] clock_bias = 10 [ns]osc_offset = 88797 [Hz] osc_temp = 27.5 [C] utc_status = 0xce = enabled decoded utc_offset = 14 site_survey = 0 (~0 sec left) Sat Dopler Elev Azi Health Mode SigStr IODE Status Offset 9 1684 63 281 00 851 16 8a0 0.000867533 12 3377 24 229 00 849 23 8a0 0.000867537 15 -2884 41 180 00 852 17 8a0 0.000867539 17341 43 86 00 850 64 8a1 0.000867537 18 -2037 22 263 00 843 63 8a0 0.000867541 22 82 21 306 00 846 17 8a0 0.000867538 26 -3703 32 167 00 845 5 8a0 0.000867533 28 -3027 23 60 00 846 27 8a0 0.000867548 32 1731 12 336 00 837 61 8a0 0.000867538 -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Kiwi Geoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Kuethe wrote: > > In Sunnyvale, my ublox antaris4t is tracking and using for solutions > > it right now (2008-02-26T22:29:19.0Z). My GPS18/LVC doesn't admit that > > there could be a PRN32 > > I have been monitoring my little fleet of GPS18/LVC's since early this > morning Chris - when I was the first to receive PRN32 with a Motorola > GT+ (by forcing an almanac gather). > > I just checked the almanac on the Garmin 18 and it still says: > > $GPALM,32,32,32*7A ( still null fields for PRN32 ) > > So it has not updated the almanac yet. > > It's housekeeping may only download an almanac once a day, so that is > why some of us will have to wait a 24 hour period before we know > whether our GPS can count all the way up to 32 And with that, my GPS18 seems to have just found the ability to tell its head apart from its rear end with the aid of a 1:1 scale map. Not tracking yet, but at least it shows PRN32 in the right part of the sky. wrt receivers that only check almanacs daily: "grumble..." CK -- GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Chris Kuethe wrote: > In Sunnyvale, my ublox antaris4t is tracking and using for solutions > it right now (2008-02-26T22:29:19.0Z). My GPS18/LVC doesn't admit that > there could be a PRN32 I have been monitoring my little fleet of GPS18/LVC's since early this morning Chris - when I was the first to receive PRN32 with a Motorola GT+ (by forcing an almanac gather). I just checked the almanac on the Garmin 18 and it still says: $GPALM,32,32,32*7A ( still null fields for PRN32 ) So it has not updated the almanac yet. It's housekeeping may only download an almanac once a day, so that is why some of us will have to wait a 24 hour period before we know whether our GPS can count all the way up to 32 Regards, Kiwi Geoff (New Zealand) . http://www.geocities.com/kiwi_36_nz ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Richard H McCorkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom, > At 51 degrees elevation PRN32 just disappeared from the UT+ satelite list. > Could they have changed its status again? In Sunnyvale, my ublox antaris4t is tracking and using for solutions it right now (2008-02-26T22:29:19.0Z). My GPS18/LVC doesn't admit that there could be a PRN32, and I forgot to set up the rest of my receivers this morning... *sigh* CK -- GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Tom, At 51 degrees elevation PRN32 just disappeared from the UT+ satelite list. Could they have changed its status again? Richard >> PRN32 is heading towards the USA, so should be "heard" there soon! > > PRN32 (=SVN23 =SATID 20959) should be above 30 degrees > elevation from Seattle, but so far none of my GPS receivers > are picking it up. I will hard restart an M12+ to see if that helps. > > /tvb > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
> PRN32 (=SVN23 =SATID 20959) should be above 30 degrees > elevation from Seattle, but so far none of my GPS receivers > are picking it up. I will hard restart an M12+ to see if that helps. One @@Cf reset and ~12 minutes later the M12+ sees it. 12 visible, 11 tracked, way cool. http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/prn32/ /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Tom, PRN32 is now at 50 degrees elevation in Alaska according to the UT+ and not visible using either of my Jupiter-T receivers! :-( Richard >> PRN32 is heading towards the USA, so should be "heard" there soon! > > PRN32 (=SVN23 =SATID 20959) should be above 30 degrees > elevation from Seattle, but so far none of my GPS receivers > are picking it up. I will hard restart an M12+ to see if that helps. > > /tvb > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Tom Van Baak wrote: >> PRN32 is heading towards the USA, so should be "heard" there soon! >> > > PRN32 (=SVN23 =SATID 20959) should be above 30 degrees > elevation from Seattle, but so far none of my GPS receivers > are picking it up. I will hard restart an M12+ to see if that helps. > > /tvb > Have just reset M12+T to factory defaults (@@Cf) which clears both the almanac and ephemeris. Almanac status message is (after reaquiring): Almanac Status Message Almanac Valid Flag: 1 (0 - No Almanac, 1 - Valid Almanac) Almanac Week: 188 Time of Almanac: 99 SVs in Almanac:1E7Fh Does anyone know how to clear the almanac in a Z3815A? Bruce ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Tom, My UT+ is showing PRN32 at 35 degrees elevation and status OK here in Alaska. Richard >> PRN32 is heading towards the USA, so should be "heard" there soon! > > PRN32 (=SVN23 =SATID 20959) should be above 30 degrees > elevation from Seattle, but so far none of my GPS receivers > are picking it up. I will hard restart an M12+ to see if that helps. > > /tvb > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tom Van Baak" writes: >> PRN32 is heading towards the USA, so should be "heard" there soon! > >PRN32 (=SVN23 =SATID 20959) should be above 30 degrees >elevation from Seattle, but so far none of my GPS receivers >are picking it up. I will hard restart an M12+ to see if that helps. Try dumping the almanac or ephemeris if you can, they may already have switched it off again... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
> PRN32 is heading towards the USA, so should be "heard" there soon! PRN32 (=SVN23 =SATID 20959) should be above 30 degrees elevation from Seattle, but so far none of my GPS receivers are picking it up. I will hard restart an M12+ to see if that helps. /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Mike S wrote: > At 03:40 PM 2/26/2008, Bruce Griffiths wrote... > > >> The Z3815A still thinks SVN32 is unhealthy. >> > > SVN32 is PRN1. > PRN32 is SVN23. > > Mike I should have said that the Z3815 still considers PRN 32 unhealthy. Bruce ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
At 03:40 PM 2/26/2008, Bruce Griffiths wrote... >The Z3815A still thinks SVN32 is unhealthy. SVN32 is PRN1. PRN32 is SVN23. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Magnus Danielson wrote: > Hi! > > The SVN23/PRN32 will be set useable 2008-02-26T18:00:00Z. > > Cheers, > Magnus > Hej Magnus My USB GPS receiver (chipset unknown) now knows PRN32 is healthy but doesnt use it. The Z3815A still thinks SVN32 is unhealthy. The M12+T doesnt yet track it. Bruce ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Hello All, For some reason, my previous message lost part of the its contents, here is another attempt. >From New Zealand I am receiving PRN32 loud and clear on a Motorola GT+ >receiver! It took some time - to work out how to force the GPS to update its almanac. I have tried to pick up PRN32 on various Garmin GPS's but I think it is just an almanac issue - may have to wait until tomorrow for those to work. PRN32 is heading towards the USA, so should be "heard" there soon! To see what part of the earth PRN32 is currently transmitting to, see: http://tinyurl.com/2u3nq7 Regards, Kiwi Geoff. http://www.geocities.com/kiwi_36_nz ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Hello All, According to the latest NANU: (PRN32) WAS USABLE AS OF JDAY 057 (26 FEB 2008) BEGINNING 1801 ZULU. >From New Zealand I am receiving PRN32 loud and clear on a Motorola GT+ >receiver! It took some time - to work out how to force the GPS to update its almanac. I have tried to pick up PRN32 on various Garmin GPS's but I think it is just an almanac issue - may have to wait until tomorrow for those to work. PRN32 is heading towards the USA, so should be "heard" there soon! To see what part of the earth PRN32 is currently transmitting to, see: http://tinyurl.com/2u3nq7 Regards, Kiwi Geoff. http://www.geocities.com/kiwi_36_nz ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable
Magnus Danielson wrote: > Hi! > > The SVN23/PRN32 will be set useable 2008-02-26T18:00:00Z. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > Hej Magnus I guess it'll be down my way (NZ) at that time Time to check the Z3815, The M12+T and the other GPS receivers Bruce ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
