Re: [TMIC] hi all

[L T CHERPESKI]

Hi Kevin,

I'm so glad you wrote.  We need you to stay in contact so that we know how 
you're doing.  I'm very sorry to hear about your mom.  I can't even imagine 
what you went through.  I'm glad that she is doing better.  And what's up with 
your neurologist???  Please don't give up on getting some pain meds.  I don't 
understand this.  Do you live in an area where there are many doctors or are 
you in a smaller community.  There's just no excuse for this and it makes me 
mad (can you tell?)  Please don't give up, Kevin.  There is help available.  
Keep in touch

Hugs
Linda
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Wolfthal 
  To: tmic-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 9:09 PM
  Subject: [TMIC] hi all




  Dear Friends,

  Sorry I haven’t been on lately. My hands have gotten very bad with 
  numbness and pain. Last month my Mom collapsed in front of me and I had 
  to give her CPR. She revived and spent a month in a nursing home and is 
  home now doing better. The trauma of all this has affected my health 
  negatively. I am just thankful I was able to get to her in time. This 
  has been a fear of mine for a long time.

  I have given up on getting help for myself. I’ve had so many negative 
  experiences with doctors..the neurologists refuse to give me anything 
  for pain. They want me to have a nerve biopsy, which I have read will 
  cause numbness in that area, and I don’t need any more numbness.

  I asked Senator Lieberman if he could get some funding to the NIH for TM 
  research and he promised me he would try. He has helped me personally 
  with other issues, so we’ll see.

  Wishing you all the best.

  Kevin

Re: [TMIC] hi all

[jrushton]

Oh, Kevin,

I am so glad your Mom is doing better and so sad that you are having 
problems.  I wish there was something we all could do for you.  I'll keep 
you in my thoughts and prayers...Jeanne 

Re: [TMIC] survey - American Autoimmune Related Diseases Association

[L T CHERPESKI]

Hi Bernie - it's so good to hear from you.  I'm sorry about the all hell 
breaking loose in your family and hope that everything and everybody improves 
real soon!  And thank you for the information on AARDA - will do.  
Be well Bernie

Hugs,
Linda
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bernard Pelow 
  To: TMIC 
  Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:05 AM
  Subject: [TMIC] survey - American Autoimmune Related Diseases Association


  Anybody who is willing to take the time, 
please fill out this short survey for the AARDA; it's extremely important that 
they have accurate statistical information on the autoimmune community, 
especially if your family suffers from more than one autoimmune disease - even 
if it's not the same one!  See the website for a full list if you're not 
familiar with other autoimmune disorders, though if your family members have 
them, I'm sure you're already somewhat familiar, ha ha.  Thank you so much for 
your time, it's greatly appreciated!  The more accurate information the AARDA 
gets from the actual community, the better they can shape and create the trials 
necessary to assist us!  And if anyone is interested, there is also a portion 
included at the bottom of the survey where you can include your personal 
information so that you can be contacted if you fit criteria for research 
purposes, so if you're interested in participating in a study that they might 
be doing, by all means, list your information.  But keep in mind - studies can 
also be rigorous and can require a lot of time and energy, for some (actually, 
probably many of us) with TM and many other autoimmune disorders, this is an 
undertaking not to be considered lightly; so include your information if you're 
interested, but if you are contacted, be sure to intimate what your limits are, 
and be clear what you are and are not capable of and how much you will 
participate in.  EG: filling out forms, talking on the phone, forwarding 
medical records, to actually going in and having physicals or participating in 
the whole studies if desired.  Thanks for reading and the consideration - and 
spread the word if you know another community where this website would be 
applicable and appreciated!

  On a more personal note, sorry I haven't been online guys, but all hell has 
broken loose in the family medically, and I don't get on the computer much 
anymore.  Hope everyone is doing as well as can be, and certainly better than I 
feel, har har har.  *grin*  Special thoughts and prayers to Jude, and anyone 
else in similar situations.  Will try to be more forthcoming with information 
and better at interacting in the near future - a silver lining is coming (it's 
gotta be *grin*).  

  Namaste ~
  Bernie

  http://www.aarda.org/survey.php

[TMIC] RE: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #489

[Kenneth Oliver]

 
Hello Frank, I don't know if have ever contacted each other before, It really 
caught my eye about the hippo belly. I only had prednisone for ten days, but 
swelled up and I still have a big gut after  29 yrs.  I wish I could do some 
traveling, but am now a widower in assisted living, just me and my dog.
 
Ken
 



Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 08:28:48 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: tmic-digest Digest 
V2008 #489To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Attachment--tmic-digest Digest  
Volume 2008 : Issue 489 Today's Topics:  Re: [TMIC] Re: 
tmic-digest Digest V2  [ Jenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]  Re: [TMIC] Re: 
tmic-digest Digest V2  [ Jenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]  Re: [TMIC] Re: 
tmic-digest Digest V2  [ "L T CHERPESKI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]  [TMIC] survey - 
American Autoimmune   [ Bernard Pelow <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]  RE: [TMIC] Hello i 
need your urgent   [ "Patricia Cooley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]  Re: [TMIC] Re: 
tmic-digest Digest V2  [ CANDIS KALLEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]--Forwarded Message 
Attachment--Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:23:11 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest 
Digest V2008 #478


But honey I know you do it and do it over and over again!!!  You are so amazing 
as are so many on this list!!!
 Jenna




From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: jrushton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
TMIC Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 11:02:21 PMSubject: 
Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #478

Hear ya!!!  the fatigue is hard to deal with working full time and hard to 
explain to others somedays it hurts just to get out of bed but we do... then to 
go and work out! please workout anymore is just getting off the couch and 
being able to balance with my walker without falling on my face.. 
-- Original message from "jrushton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
-- 
In response to:
 
Oh my gosh! same here I feel like the "Stay Puff Marshmellow Gal"! I gained 
90 lbs when I got sick 4 years ago and have yet to lose any of it, 
 
Kim, it's not like we can go out and run around the block or through the woods, 
right???  Heck, we can't even tell if we're holding our tummy in or not!  We 
could try some of that stuff that Oprah is advertising so much now (Acai?) 
except I saw a picture of it in a bowl and it looks like a bowl of purple 
intestines!!  Jeanne--Forwarded Message Attachment--Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 
20:24:13 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 
#478


I know I just keep gaining...it is freaking me out!!!
 Jenna




From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: jrushton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Kenneth Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; TMIC Sent: Thursday, 
December 4, 2008 10:19:15 PMSubject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 
#478

Oh my gosh! same here I feel like the "Stay Puff Marshmellow Gal"! I gained 
90 lbs when I got sick 4 years ago and have yet to lose any of it, 
 
 
-- Original message from "jrushton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
-- 

In response to:
I spent nine weeks in the hospital from Jan. to April in 1981.  I haven't heard 
anyonetalking about a swollen belly. I was 235 with 42  waist when I got this.  
When inthe hospital I swelled so when discharged I was 205 with 60 inch waist.  
It stayed like thatfor many weeks, and when it finally went down any nervous 
excitement would make it blow up,this went on for over 20 yrs. When it blew up 
the band of pain was sometimes nearlyunbearable.Ken in N.M.
 
Ken, to this day I still have a poofy tummy that I did not have before TM and 
sometimes it is worse than others.  Each doctor I mentioned it to just shrugged 
their shoulders so I didn't give it any more thought.  I'm glad you mentioned 
it...Jeanne--Forwarded Message Attachment--Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 23:46:36 
-0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
tmic-list@eskimo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest 
V2008 #478



oh F, I so totally agree!
 
Linda

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: jrushton ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; TMIC 
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #478
>   Talking about looking pregnant and I'm a male.  My belly bloated > up 
> so bad, that people said I looked like I was pregnant with twins. Many gain 
> abdominal girth while on cortisone/prednisone, or soon after.  The bloat is 
> secondary to the cortisone which causes increases in the lipoid cells.  This 
> results in weight gain, increase in blood pressure, borderline diabetes, and 
> hyperlipidemia ( increased cholesterol or triglycerides).  This group has 
> been named the Metabolic Syndrome.I was attacked by this beast several years 
> ago, but decided to go on vacation to mexico, the change in diet, increased 
> activity made my diabetes, hypertension, weight and 

Re: [TMIC] hi all

[Grace M.]

*Oh Kevin, I'**m so glad that you have posted!   So sorry to hear about your
Mom---what a trauma that must have been for you.  Thank God that she
is doing better now.*
**
*Kev, please don't give up.  And PLEASE stay in touch.   It's been ages
since I've heard from you or seen you post here, and I was getting more than
a little worried.  I'm sure that we all were.*
**
*Be well.*
**
*Gracie  *

[TMIC] hi all

[Kevin Wolfthal]

Dear Friends,

Sorry I haven’t been on lately. My hands have gotten very bad with 
numbness and pain. Last month my Mom collapsed in front of me and I had 
to give her CPR. She revived and spent a month in a nursing home and is 
home now doing better. The trauma of all this has affected my health 
negatively. I am just thankful I was able to get to her in time. This 
has been a fear of mine for a long time.


I have given up on getting help for myself. I’ve had so many negative 
experiences with doctors..the neurologists refuse to give me anything 
for pain. They want me to have a nerve biopsy, which I have read will 
cause numbness in that area, and I don’t need any more numbness.


I asked Senator Lieberman if he could get some funding to the NIH for TM 
research and he promised me he would try. He has helped me personally 
with other issues, so we’ll see.


Wishing you all the best.

Kevin

Re: [TMIC] Social Security Disability Income

[jrushton]

Yes, I am.  I feel like there must be something I can do from home on the 
computer.  I wish there was some type of 'Call a Nurse' or nurse triage-type 
work that I could do just to keep me in the nursing field.  That would be so 
wonderful plus I could have some control over how many hours I put in in 
order to not go over the Disability requirements.  I don't want to do any 
kind of 'sales' on-line type of work.  We'll just keep working and thinking 
on it, okay???  Jeanne 

Re: [TMIC] survey - American Autoimmune Related Diseases Association

[Trudy Ogilvie]

Bernie, glad to hear from you and looks like you've still got your sense
of humor!!!  Survey is completed! Very easy and simple to do Take care!Go
NAVY !
Trudy

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Bernard Pelow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Anybody who is willing to take the time,
> please fill out this short survey for the AARDA; it's extremely important
> that they have accurate statistical information on the autoimmune community,
> *especially* if your family suffers from more than one autoimmune disease
> - even if it's not the same one!  See the website for a full list if you're
> not familiar with other autoimmune disorders, though if your family members
> have them, I'm sure you're already somewhat familiar, ha ha.  Thank you so
> much for your time, it's greatly appreciated!  The more accurate information
> the AARDA gets from the actual community, the better they can shape and
> create the trials necessary to assist us!  And if anyone is interested,
> there is also a portion included at the bottom of the survey where you can
> include your personal information so that you can be contacted if you fit
> criteria for research purposes, so if you're interested in participating in
> a study that they might be doing, by all means, list your information.  But
> keep in mind - studies can also be rigorous and can require a lot of time
> and energy, for some (actually, probably many of us) with TM and many other
> autoimmune disorders, this is an undertaking not to be considered lightly;
> so include your information if you're interested, but if you are contacted,
> be sure to intimate what your limits are, and be clear what you are and are
> not capable of and how much you will participate in.  EG: filling out forms,
> talking on the phone, forwarding medical records, to actually going in and
> having physicals or participating in the whole studies if desired.  Thanks
> for reading and the consideration - and spread the word if you know another
> community where this website would be applicable and appreciated!
>
> On a more personal note, sorry I haven't been online guys, but all hell has
> broken loose in the family medically, and I don't get on the computer much
> anymore.  Hope everyone is doing as well as can be, and certainly better
> than I feel, har har har.  *grin*  Special thoughts and prayers to Jude, and
> anyone else in similar situations.  Will try to be more forthcoming with
> information and better at interacting in the near future - a silver lining
> is coming (it's gotta be *grin*).
>
> Namaste ~
> Bernie
>
> http://www.aarda.org/survey.php
>

Re: [TMIC] Social Security Disability Income

[jrushton]

Patty, you really took a lot of time to put all of this down and I thank you 
from the bottom of my heart!!!  I have been wishing there was something I 
could do from home but didn't want to disrupt what we have.  Our retirement 
has been disappearing at a rapid pace as I'm sure others have had the same 
thing happen!  So we have been looking at other avenues for income.  We have 
to be realistic when it comes to our home knowing that we may not be able to 
keep it like we had planned.  That will be a sad, sad day since we built it 
literally starting with cutting one branch down at a time but!!!  It's just 
a house!  A home I can make!


Thank you, again...you are a jewel!

Jeanne 

Re: [TMIC] survey - American Autoimmune Related Diseases Association

[jrushton]

Thank you, Bernie, for all of the work you went to in order to put this info 
down for us and yes, I was sure wondering where you were!!  Hope all is well 
for you and it's good to have you back!

Jeanne

[TMIC] Social Security Disibility Income

[pjv1234]

I'm not a Soc Sec expert, however, This is what I know:

It took me 18 months from the time I filed until I was approved for Sos Sec 
Disability Income and have been on it for 3.5 years.  

I have a "right to Work Ticket" that allows to attend school or seek training 
for employment or to work. However, my gross income MUST be under $800 per 
month or my SSDI will stop. 

My five year TM anniversary was in November and in October I received a 
Disability Update Report that asked five questions.  Last week I received a 
letter from Soc Sec that said no further determination was needed at this time 
and my benefits would continue.  
The questions were regarding the past two years I just required an "x" by the 
correct answer:
1.have you worked for someone or been self-employed?  yes or no (list if yes)
2.have you attended any school or work training program?  yes or no
3. my doctor and I have not discussed whether I can return to work (or) my 
doctor told me I cannot work (or) my doctor told me I can work
4. which best describes your health - Better, Same, Worse
5. have you gone to a docttor or clinic for treatment? yes or no (List if yes) 

Some of your questions regaring SSDI and spousal income can be answered from 
your annual Soc Sec letter,
My SSDI amount was listed in my annual Social Security letter titled "Your 
Personal Earnings and Benefit Estimate Statement". Of course, I never thought I 
would ever be disabled when I started receiving these statements years ago.  
The form reads:
Retirement Benefits - If you worked at your present rate to full retirement age 
of 66 your retirement benefit would be: $ x,xx5
If you become disabled right now, you need 31 credits to qualify for disability 
benefits.  Of these, 20 had to be earned in the last 10 years.  Your record 
shows you have earned enough credits in the right time:  Right now your 
disability benefits would be about: $x,xx0   (five dollars less than above)

"If you get retirement or disability benefits your spouse or family may qualify 
for survivor benefits.  If you die this year, you need 31 credits for your 
spouse to get benefits.(Several lines depending if their 
are children involved)...
When your spouse reaches full retirement age (66) $ x,x10 (wow,$10 more)
There is another page that explains family and spousal benefits at younger ages 
if you retire or are disabled.  

The rules about working after retirement at age 62 and up to age 65 or 66 is 
different than the income for SSDI.

Call 1-800-537-7005 to request a statement.

I hope this helps.  I planned on working another tens years at the time TM hit 
me.  I pulled the statement out of the file soon after I came home from the 
hospital to see if we could survive on my loss of employment.  I'm happy to say 
we are doing fine.

Patti - Michigan

RE: [TMIC] survey - American Autoimmune Related Diseases Association

[Patricia Cooley]

Thanks Bernie.  I just took the survey.  It is very easy and only takes
about 5 minutes.  If it can help anyone, it is worth the 5 minutes and many
more.

 

Patti in Wisconsin

 

From: Bernard Pelow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:05 AM
To: TMIC
Subject: [TMIC] survey - American Autoimmune Related Diseases Association

 

Anybody who is willing to take the time, please fill out this short survey
for the AARDA; it's extremely important that they have accurate statistical
information on the autoimmune community, especially if your family suffers
from more than one autoimmune disease - even if it's not the same one!  See
the website for a full list if you're not familiar with other autoimmune
disorders, though if your family members have them, I'm sure you're already
somewhat familiar, ha ha.  Thank you so much for your time, it's greatly
appreciated!  The more accurate information the AARDA gets from the actual
community, the better they can shape and create the trials necessary to
assist us!  And if anyone is interested, there is also a portion included at
the bottom of the survey where you can include your personal information so
that you can be contacted if you fit criteria for research purposes, so if
you're interested in participating in a study that they might be doing, by
all means, list your information.  But keep in mind - studies can also be
rigorous and can require a lot of time and energy, for some (actually,
probably many of us) with TM and many other autoimmune disorders, this is an
undertaking not to be considered lightly; so include your information if
you're interested, but if you are contacted, be sure to intimate what your
limits are, and be clear what you are and are not capable of and how much
you will participate in.  EG: filling out forms, talking on the phone,
forwarding medical records, to actually going in and having physicals or
participating in the whole studies if desired.  Thanks for reading and the
consideration - and spread the word if you know another community where this
website would be applicable and appreciated!

On a more personal note, sorry I haven't been online guys, but all hell has
broken loose in the family medically, and I don't get on the computer much
anymore.  Hope everyone is doing as well as can be, and certainly better
than I feel, har har har.  *grin*  Special thoughts and prayers to Jude, and
anyone else in similar situations.  Will try to be more forthcoming with
information and better at interacting in the near future - a silver lining
is coming (it's gotta be *grin*).  

Namaste ~
Bernie

  http://www.aarda.org/survey.php

Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #478

[CANDIS KALLEY]

Oh that does sound wonderful!! 

Candy K 
- Original Message - 
From: "L T CHERPESKI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "jrushton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], "TMIC" 
, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2008 1:46:36 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York 
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #478 




oh F, I so totally agree! 

Linda 


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: jrushton ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; TMIC 
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 2:27 PM 
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re: tmic-digest Digest V2008 #478 


>   Talking about looking pregnant and I'm a male.  My belly bloated > up 
>so bad, that people said I looked like I was pregnant with twins. 

Many gain abdominal girth while on cortisone/prednisone, or soon after.  The 
bloat is secondary to the cortisone which causes increases in the lipoid 
cells.  This results in weight gain, increase in blood pressure, borderline 
diabetes, and hyperlipidemia ( increased cholesterol or triglycerides).  This 
group has been named the Metabolic Syndrome. 

I was attacked by this beast several years ago, but decided to go on vacation 
to mexico, the change in diet, increased activity made my diabetes, 
hypertension, weight and lipids go down. 

My suggestion: When given a new diagnosis, go on VACATION !!! 

F 

RE: [TMIC] Hello i need your urgent assistance..

[Patricia Cooley]

That was my first thought.  I would need more information from a reliable
source before I would do something so stupid.  If it is a scam, the person
is a low down crumb to pray on a group of people who are very carrying and
always willing to help a fellow TMer

 

From: Westgold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 2:44 PM
To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Hello i need your urgent assistance..

 

This is a scam, I have received these before.  DO NOT SEND HIM ANY MONEY.  

- Original Message - 

From: robert hennessy   

To: tmic-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 3:18 PM

Subject: [TMIC] Hello i need your urgent assistance..

 

Hello,
Sorry I didn't inform you about my traveling to UK for a program, am
presently in London and i am stranded here because i misplaced my wallet on
my way to the hotel where my money and other valuable things were kept.I
will like
you to assist me with a soft loan urgently with the sum of 1,850 GB Pounds
to sort-out my hotel bills and get myself back home. I will appreciate
whatever you can afford, i will pay back as soon as i return.So please use
the details below to transfer the money to me through Western Union money
transfer because i was told that is the only way i could be able to get it
fast and leave. This is the detail below
 
 
Name : Robert Hennessy
Address:Kenilworth Road,
Hampton-in-Arden Solihull,
West Midlands
B92 0LW
Country :England
Test Question :Year of birth?
Answer : 1981
Amount Sent: ?
 
 
kindly help me to make the transfer as soon as you receive this email and
once you have it sent, send me the money transfer control number with
details used in sending it. Also i have my passport to prove my identity at
Western union here when receiving the money.
 
 
Hope to hear from you soon.


  _  


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 R account now. 


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[TMIC] survey - American Autoimmune Related Diseases Association

[Bernard Pelow]

Anybody who is willing to take the 
time, please fill out this short survey for the AARDA; it's extremely 
important that they have accurate statistical information on the 
autoimmune community, /especially/ if your family suffers from more than 
one autoimmune disease - even if it's not the same one!  See the website 
for a full list if you're not familiar with other autoimmune disorders, 
though if your family members have them, I'm sure you're already 
somewhat familiar, ha ha.  Thank you so much for your time, it's greatly 
appreciated!  The more accurate information the AARDA gets from the 
actual community, the better they can shape and create the trials 
necessary to assist us!  And if anyone is interested, there is also a 
portion included at the bottom of the survey where you can include your 
personal information so that you can be contacted if you fit criteria 
for research purposes, so if you're interested in participating in a 
study that they might be doing, by all means, list your information.  
But keep in mind - studies can also be rigorous and can require a lot of 
time and energy, for some (actually, probably many of us) with TM and 
many other autoimmune disorders, this is an undertaking not to be 
considered lightly; so include your information if you're interested, 
but if you are contacted, be sure to intimate what your limits are, and 
be clear what you are and are not capable of and how much you will 
participate in.  EG: filling out forms, talking on the phone, forwarding 
medical records, to actually going in and having physicals or 
participating in the whole studies if desired.  Thanks for reading and 
the consideration - and spread the word if you know another community 
where this website would be applicable and appreciated!


On a more personal note, sorry I haven't been online guys, but all hell 
has broken loose in the family medically, and I don't get on the 
computer much anymore.  Hope everyone is doing as well as can be, and 
certainly better than I feel, har har har.  *grin*  Special thoughts and 
prayers to Jude, and anyone else in similar situations.  Will try to be 
more forthcoming with information and better at interacting in the near 
future - a silver lining is coming (it's gotta be *grin*). 


Namaste ~
Bernie

http://www.aarda.org/survey.php
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