RE: [TMIC] re marieke dufresne
marieke...@hotmail.com this email adress was in my computer, don't now if it is the latest. From: suret...@sympatico.ca To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:40:42 -0500 Subject: [TMIC] re marieke dufresne does anyone have her email please?
RE: [TMIC] OT - this is scary
We do follow this every day on the news. We can't imagine that is still all politics to hold all the plans back, because not only the US is infold, the hole world is. We here in Holland has to deal with cit backs on social security, healthcare and higher taxes. Not that we like it, but those were nessary. Not that we agreed to all the choises, but one way or the other, you have to make them. You have to do something at the guild for eaach person of more than $130.000, we here get nervous of a guild for each of $15.000. It is no longer left or right, democrat or republican, we can't go live on as nothing happend. When your econemy goes down, it effects the whole world. Money will tumbling down in falluw, banks will go down and everyone sooner or later will lost a part of his money. Wim Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 02:01:52 -0500 From: bpe...@austin.rr.com To: bpe...@austin.rr.com; grodg...@austin.rr.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] OT - this is scary Have any of you folks seen this? SCARY! http://news.yahoo.com/economic-outlook-grim-no-debt-deal-reached-194155807.html
RE: [TMIC] Bladder/Spasms
For me a sign tot go to the toilet. Mostly at the end of the day, need to empty my bowl. Somes olso with a full blader. Wim From: jan...@centurytel.net To: tmic-l...@eskimo.net Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 17:20:48 -0500 Subject: [TMIC] Bladder/Spasms Got a quick question - Have any of you noticed that when you are sitting for a while and your legs start spasming, if you go to the bathroom, it settles down? I don’t know if it is my imagination or if that is something to this. Haven’t heard from anyone for a while – everything okay? Take care, Janice
RE: [TMIC] They're baaack
For the morning cramps, what helped me a bit is taken fishoil tablets (Omaga3) 1000mg a day. Not completely gone but a lot less. Wim. Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:40:44 +0400 Subject: Re: [TMIC] They're baaack From: malugss...@gmail.com To: molokai...@gmail.com; jcs...@yahoo.com CC: tmic-list@eskimo.com; tmic-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Well, the cramping-spasticity-contractions—whatever-yoy-wanna-call-them, came back this morning. The first sign was that I knocked over a perfectly good, and totally full, cup of coffee all over the kitchen table, including on my meds. By the time I got to work my limb coordination was diminishing. But I got through the lecture—barely! Then informed my reassuring, but write-it-all-down-for-future-reference boss that I was heading home early. OK now, just sore and embarrassed. It is hard to be better than normal as worse than normal as both situations land me in trouble. Dalton Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates Office: +971-02-607-5070/5297 Mobile: +971-50-668-5760 From: James Berg Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:51:27 -1000 To: john snodgrass Cc: transverse myelitis Subject: Re: [TMIC] revisiting an old issue Resent-From: Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:52:04 -0700 thanks for the input On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:08 AM, john snodgrass wrote: ativan along with hydrocodone use to ease the banding but that does not have much effect anymore for me --- On Tue, 4/26/11, James Berg wrote: From: James Berg Subject: Re: [TMIC] revisiting an old issue To: "john snodgrass" Cc: "transverse myelitis" Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 2:28 PM I am having a bad day--the thrumming is at its worst and the banding has gotten wider and tighter--to the point I couldn't eat dinner or breakfast this morning. Baclofen does nothing. It took four glasses of red wine and two alergy pills to get me to sleep. Being in the chair now is making the banding pain worse. any suggestions? On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:11 AM, john snodgrass wrote: I remember hearing the concern of thrumming in the legs. You know,,like the sound that a power transformer makes except it's a feeling,a buzzing or even sometimes like energy going up and down your leg or legs. I gert this a lot and when it is real bad it is from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet. sometimes it even feels like something poking at the bottom of my feet from the inside trying to get out. perhaps i could harness it and drive a car with it! I am taking the maximum dosage of baclofen and neurontin and was wondering if anyone ever ran across something to either slow this part down or even stop it. sometimes it will last all day and can go from irritating to depressing. most of the time when this does stop that's when the burning begins. this on top of the wast banding and pain can drive me to thinking thoughts that are not normal for me. thoughts like,,perhaps i should find some marijuana and smoke it or perhaps i should drink enough to pass out or maybe i should punch someone and they will knock me out! my Doc's know about it but have no answer. losing insurance on may 5th.
RE: [TMIC] new treatment for MS and maybe more
Sounds well, it gives the impression that this kind of deseases, the side affects are almost history. Still I am in a wheelchair and struggle every day with TM. Thats reality of the day. For ten years I read such developments and still no medication that came out of this studies. I am just realistic, not pessimistic. Still have hope that one day it will be there, but I know thats it not tomorrow. Still enjoying life, booked two vacations to Spain, one end of May, the other end of August. Wim > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:36:20 -0400 > From: wolft...@optonline.net > To: tmic-list@eskimo.com > Subject: [TMIC] new treatment for MS and maybe more > > > http://www.disabled-world.com/health/autoimmunediseases/ms/compound.php >
RE: [TMIC] OT ?
Baclofen helps for spasm, when I first started and I heard more of the group talking about it, you can have trouble with short memory, but that slowly improves. Nothing of that you can find back in the discription closed in. What also a caused spasm is a full bowl, notice after relieving that it is better. Full bladder makes it also worse. Keep the legs warm (blacket) if you sit stil all the time and afford draft. Nice in spring to let the wind through your house, but for people who does not move a lot, the muscles get cold and spasm will follow then, specially when the warm up again. Thats the reason when spasm comes after a while in bed or with cold legs crowl up to the partner. Wim From: em...@telephonelady.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [TMIC] OT ? Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:47:03 -0400 Regarding Baclofin…..the physical therapist suggested that my husband ask his doctor for Baclofin due to the spasms in his legs. The spasms are effecting his progress in physical therapy. Can you give me the skinny on what are the side effects? He recommends 10 mg 3X per day. Emily Meyers From: tracyleab...@yahoo.com [mailto:tracyleab...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:02 PM To: john snodgrass; transverse myelitis Subject: Re: [TMIC] OT ? I am on baclofin. myself...whole nether story but her doctor has not even suggested that. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: john snodgrass Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:51:51 -0700 (PDT) To: transverse myelitis Subject: Re: [TMIC] OT ? I'm not sure weather it was the maximum dose of baclofin or the maximum dose of gabapentin that slowed the burning down but since i have maxed out both of them I have noticed that my feet and legs don't burn as bad as often. also maxing out the gabapentin has really helped with the spasms in my legs. not done away with them but sure has helped. --- On Tue, 3/29/11, tracyleab...@yahoo.com wrote: From: tracyleab...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] OT ? To: "Janice Nichols" , "wim from holland" , "TMIC" Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 8:37 PM Yes I am very very involved. I am the oldest and she is my heart.. She just was diagnosed eight months ago. It came on so fast which I understand is how it happens. She is 61. She has this burning in her feet that is horrible she says it feels like they are burning and she can not get them cool enough. She trys to ice them down but that is not working anymore. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: "Janice Nichols" Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:22:34 -0500 To: ; wim from holland; TMIC Subject: Re: [TMIC] OT ? Tracy, can you tell me a little about her?How old is she, how long has she had TM, what part of her did it hit, has there been any improvement? I was 60 when TM hit me and my daughter and husband were invaluable. What is your situation, can you spend time with her? How is her attitude? Sorry for all the questions, but it will help us to help you. Janice, in Missouri From: tracyleab...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:09 PM To: Janice Nichols ; wim from holland ; TMIC Subject: Re: [TMIC] OT ? I'm new to this, but have been getting all of the emails for awhile...my mom has TM and it was a very fast thing that I am trying to get a grasp on and understand Any advice would be greatly appreciatedTracy bell Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From: "Janice Nichols" Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 18:59:46 -0500 To: wim from holland; TMIC Subject: Re: [TMIC] OT ? Things have been pretty quiet on the website.One of these days a subject will come up that will start a ruckus. Also, apparently some of our members spend more time on Facebook too. Hope you are doing well. Janice From: wim from holland Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 5:17 PM To: TMIC Subject: [TMIC] OT ? Did not get any mail the last week. Everybody gardening, or sitting lazy in the sun hole day? Wim
[TMIC] OT ?
Did not get any mail the last week. Everybody gardening, or sitting lazy in the sun hole day? Wim
RE: [TMIC] Kangen water
Suggestion can have some effect for a short time, the biggest effect will be the losing of $4000. There is no cure for TM, some meds will help with the side-effect. These meds are proven and you can find info all over on the internet. My opinion, don't give your money away, hold it back for a holliday. What I could find on the internet, that it is special ionized water, used for fine machinery. In the comments prices are spoken of betrween $19.99 and $1000. What the amount is, I don't know. Maybe you have filled a swimming pool for $4000. On health sides, there is only an article of the need to clean your system by drinking that water, the most expencife bottle there is $19.99. Look futher on the internet, I found it, you can find it with Google. Keep your money in your pocket please. Wim. Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 13:25:17 -1000 From: molokai...@gmail.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Kangen water My son is raving about the health benefits of Kangen water. does anyone know anything about it? I am trying to prevent him from spending $4000 on a bogus idea. I have started my own experiment with it but am getting it from a local health food outlet. In the meantime mayber some one has knowledge they would like to share?
RE: [TMIC] OT
Sorry for this lost in the family. We also lost a child very young, what helped me a lot is knowing that his soul is still present in the family. From Derek Ogilvie I learned that it was not just in my mind, his soul is realy there. I can't hear him, not see him but I feel he is there. You can talk to him and sometimes I hear a voice in my mind with a simple answer. Lately, now both my parents are gone, I noticed the present of my mother. My daughter had a strange expirence that she was confert in the night by my father. Non of my family is spiritual. We are just a normal Dutch family with both feet on the ground. It happend to us. We learned from eachother expirence after a while, from the shows of Derek Ogilvie we learned that we were not the only one and you don't need a six sence to communicate with them, just do. He will be around as long they live. To the family, I looked at it as it put a hole in your living ground with sharp edges. The longer you live, the larger your living ground will be. The hole stays the same, only the sharp edges dissapear later on slowly. The lost never dissapear. It happened to us by oue second child, a son. After him we had two other children. They were no replaments, just a younger brother and sister. Our disseast kid held always his place in the family also with his brothers and sister. We trusted on God, he did this not to us for a second time. Much strenged to you and your family in those hard days and coming time. Wim Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 06:55:57 -0800 From: rn11...@yahoo.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] OT My friends, My great-grandson Joshua James Bigelow (born 11/19/10) died of SIDS on 2/28. We are devastated. Cheryl
RE: [TMIC] Bladder
Maybe, I am no expert. But is it an idea to drink not less, but a lot more during the day. Your bladder get streched more, capable to have more inside, then maybe after a while you reach the early morning. Wim From: jan...@centurytel.net To: wim_from_holl...@hotmail.com; tmic-l...@eskimo.net Subject: Re: [TMIC] Bladder Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:39:13 -0600 I do not cath at all any more.I can clear out my bladder completely. Problem is, I make a lot of urine during the nite and can have problems feeling the urge to get up and go to the bathroom.Bladder is still partially asleep. I clear out my bladder just before getting into bed, and usually get up 2-3 times during the nite to empty the bladder.My lower intake of liquids doesn’t seem to help. But, it is getting better. Janice From: wim from holland Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 6:02 PM To: jan...@centurytel.net ; tmic-l...@eskimo.net Subject: RE: [TMIC] Bladder I wonder, is your bladder enough empty, before you go to bed. Do you cath before sleeping? My bladder improved also a little after a few years. Before between the cath nothing came out, after a few years I was able to let some out in between, what was an improvement also for the spasm. Wim From: jan...@centurytel.net To: tmic-l...@eskimo.net Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:42:01 -0600 Subject: [TMIC] Bladder Hi!! Seems like things have been really quiet with our group. Hope it isn’t because of health, just busy people. Just wanted to tell those of you still having problems with the bladder that, after 4 years, I am definitely improving. I am having some “dry” nights – not always, but definitely more than before.Actually some are dry and some are drier. There is always hope.Those of you who are worried about the “2-year” improvement time, the improvement still happens after the 2 years. Actually, I wonder if some of the problem is the baclofen that many of us take to ward off the leg spasms. We need the baclofen to be able to sleep, but it puts us into a deep enough sleep that we can’t feel the urge to pee. And, the urge to pee now feels different than the urge did before I got TM. I, for one, am not going to stop taking baclofen.Couldn’t sleep without it and the frustration of the spasms is not worth a “dry” pad.Oh well, just wanted to let you “newbies” know that improvement keeps coming – we just have to be patient. Janice <><><>
RE: [TMIC] Bladder
I wonder, is your bladder enough empty, before you go to bed. Do you cath before sleeping? My bladder improved also a little after a few years. Before between the cath nothing came out, after a few years I was able to let some out in between, what was an improvement also for the spasm. Wim From: jan...@centurytel.net To: tmic-l...@eskimo.net Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:42:01 -0600 Subject: [TMIC] Bladder Hi!! Seems like things have been really quiet with our group. Hope it isn’t because of health, just busy people. Just wanted to tell those of you still having problems with the bladder that, after 4 years, I am definitely improving. I am having some “dry” nights – not always, but definitely more than before.Actually some are dry and some are drier. There is always hope.Those of you who are worried about the “2-year” improvement time, the improvement still happens after the 2 years. Actually, I wonder if some of the problem is the baclofen that many of us take to ward off the leg spasms. We need the baclofen to be able to sleep, but it puts us into a deep enough sleep that we can’t feel the urge to pee. And, the urge to pee now feels different than the urge did before I got TM. I, for one, am not going to stop taking baclofen.Couldn’t sleep without it and the frustration of the spasms is not worth a “dry” pad.Oh well, just wanted to let you “newbies” know that improvement keeps coming – we just have to be patient. Janice <><><>
RE: [TMIC] grandson
Meet my new born grandson Sybren Nils, also with his sister Tess Sophie. Born on januari 2e. [TMIC] grandson http://cid-b5f2d6495df39b69.skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?page=browse&resid=B5F2D6495DF39B69!123&type=5&Bpub=SDX.Photos&Bsrc=Photomail&authkey=2q0HLVv2rdU%24 Subject: RE: [TMIC] grandson Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:45:21 -0500 From: bernie.butc...@honeywell.com To: jan...@centurytel.net; wim_from_holl...@hotmail.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com While we are on the OT topic of grandchildren, Meet Colin Bernard born 8/19/10! Bernie From: Janice Nichols [mailto:jan...@centurytel.net] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 9:16 PM To: wim from holland; TMIC Subject: Re: [TMIC] grandson Would love to see them. Hope you find a way to do it. Janice From: wim from holland Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:38 PM To: TMIC Subject: [TMIC] grandson Tried to send a mail with pictures of my new born grandson. But it did not came true.
RE: [TMIC] grandson
Did a retry with pictures, small enough. Is it Windows 7, that makes trouble or the server overthere? Subject: RE: [TMIC] grandson Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:45:21 -0500 From: bernie.butc...@honeywell.com To: jan...@centurytel.net; wim_from_holl...@hotmail.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com While we are on the OT topic of grandchildren, Meet Colin Bernard born 8/19/10! Bernie From: Janice Nichols [mailto:jan...@centurytel.net] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 9:16 PM To: wim from holland; TMIC Subject: Re: [TMIC] grandson Would love to see them. Hope you find a way to do it. Janice From: wim from holland Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:38 PM To: TMIC Subject: [TMIC] grandson Tried to send a mail with pictures of my new born grandson. But it did not came true.
RE: [TMIC]
Janice Normaly I could say, just fine, not better or worse. After all this time it was very study. But last summer I overstreched my hamstrings by a fall. A very stupid one, sitting on the bed I reached too far for clothes on the floor and slide from the bed. I jused after that time my wheelchair all the day, because standing and walking with crutches was too painfull. Now after recovering, it is hard to get back to what I could do before. I hope in summer when we go to Spain I can get it back in the warm sun and dayly in the swimming pool. Wim From: jan...@centurytel.net To: wim_from_holl...@hotmail.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 10:31:41 -0600 Wim, it is great hearing from you again!How are you doing – besides learning to be grandparents. Janice From: wim from holland Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:03 AM To: TMIC Subject: [TMIC] Gelukkig Nieuwjaar!! Happy new year everybody, hopefully this will be the year that makes an end to TM, and if not, don't give up hope and keep the head up. Last two years were very strange. We become grandparents, but we also became orphans this year. Next year our second grand child will be born. Wim from Holland.
[TMIC]
Gelukkig Nieuwjaar!! Happy new year everybody, hopefully this will be the year that makes an end to TM, and if not, don't give up hope and keep the head up. Last two years were very strange. We become grandparents, but we also became orphans this year. Next year our second grand child will be born. Wim from Holland.
[TMIC] healthcare
Congratulations with your new healthcare system. It is almost a copy of the Dutch system. Our minister of heathcare had been a few times in America and the White House to excplain the benefids of the system. At the end it will makes it all cheaper for customer, gouverment and insuerance companies. It provides healthcare for everyone. For those who had not healthcare and get an accident, taxpayers had to pay for it. Also people because of not having healthcare waited much too long to see a doctor, at the end ended in a hospital with much higher costs, wich came at the shoulders of the taxpayers. Here in Holland, because the insuerance companies demand you take the cheapest possible medications, the price of these is now so much lower, that Gemans and Belges come to Holland for the free medications, only Spain and Portugal are cheaper. Wim from Holland _ Alles over Windows http://www.windows.nl/About.aspx
[TMIC]
Never found a cause. My TM had a slow start and began years before the big bang. First tintling in one leg, went away. Than balance problem, lost my ballfeeling this tennis, was too sone or to late. Kids begin to complain about my driving, drove with shocks, brake too fast. Than sexuality lost, could not contain an erection and 6 month after that the big bang. In hospital with conclusion TM. Now I found a piece on internet about Cysticercosis or neurocysticercosis, and everything fell in its place. Gone talk with my neuro about it, can take a while before I see his, takes a few moth to get an appointment. Wim _ Download gratis emoticons voor Messenger http://www.rulive.nl/aspx/emoticons.aspx
RE: [TMIC] OT: sorry...
Go for Lactulose. One thing, it will make you more gazzy, but it will make the bowl softer and easy to come out. Good feabers and frute will help also, but I use it already for more then 10 years and it really does the job. Wim from Holland > Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:15:31 -0500 > From: wolft...@optonline.net > To: tmic-list@eskimo.com > Subject: [TMIC] OT: sorry... > > > Forgive me for bothering the board again. I have > nowhere else to turn right now, and I know you > have all experienced most everything. > > Along with my recent anxiety has come digestive > problems. Getting to the bathroom has also > become harder because my mobility is worse. I am > getting a new wheelchair for that reason. > Constipation and terrible gas. Of course, > this makes my tm symptoms and anxiety worse. > I tried prune juice which has helped before, not > this time. Gas-X helps a little. I welcome all thoughts. > > Kevin > _ Wil jij ook onbeperkte opslagruimte? Gebruik Hotmail http://mail.live.com
RE: [TMIC] Age
Now I am 56, has TM on the age of 43. Wim From: jan...@centurytel.net To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:35:27 -0600 Subject: [TMIC] Age Hey! I have a request. I was talking to my neuro and he was curious to know the ages that my website friends were when they were hit with TM.Do you all mind sending me that info - even if you only read messages and don't usually respond?I would like to get as many ages to him as possible. I told him you all were a pretty cooperative group! Thanks guys Janice, Missouri _ Kakker, Party of Nerd: download ze gratis voor in je Messenger http://buddytest.rulive.nl/default.aspx?src=taglines
RE: [TMIC] need advice
The day I started to take Omega3 capsules of 1000mg my bowl is more compact, darker en the use of toilet paper went down a lot. Almost clean after the bowl. Normaly to keep the bowl smooth going I use lactulose. that combination worked for me the best. Wim. Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:43:13 -0700 From: limoga43...@yahoo.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] need advice I have had TM for nearly 7 years now, and as embarrassing as it is to admit, my bowels and bladder are not getting better, in fact at times they are worse.I take Metamucil faithfully every morning and for some time that helped my bowels, but lately it is notI feel the urge and can not hold it in and have an accidentany suggestions or any good thoughts as what to do? I don't know whether to take the metamucil 2 times a day or add something else. I am on meds for my bladder and so far so good there. I am scheduled to see our medical doctor next week, but thought maybe someone might have some ideas to help me till then. Thanks.Linda in Ohio _ 25GB gratis online harde schijf http://skydrive.live.com
RE: [TMIC] Death
The fact that I had TM made me see the future in an other way. I always step on two thougths. One , you will getting old, the other, I hope that I am not getting old, because this way I need more and more help, can't do less and less on my own. Before I can't do anything on my own I hope I leave this planet. The first said to me, you have to hold on as long as possible for your wife, kids and grandkids. Personal, I don't have a problem if I not waking up the next morning. I did read a book about people who had a nearly death expiriment. Some during a operation, some after an accident. They are all alike and conferm what my belive is based what the bible said. The book is written by a hart surgent, who spook with his patients after they were dead for a few moments. They speak about a warm peacefull feeling, feel the love in there harts. Some see there own operation, some drift away to a warm peacefull light, meeting relatifs who died before. the most beautifull story is about a kid nearly dead by drowning, who mets a girl, wich seemes to be her sister Liane, she did not know she had one. The kid got answers on all het questions, the light she saw, is that God. No , het sister answered, it is just his breath. The white persons she saw, are those angels? No, other souls who are visible for you now, ones you are back you can't see them, but they are also around you, I am also around you now and then. After she was brought back to life she spook with her parents who admid she had a sister two years before her birth, she died after an illness. And her name was indeed Liane. Because the writer has also a medical background, he explains a lot of matters. Fact is that non believers are starting to go to church, now and then, a lot quit there job and start working in heathcare or socialcare. Believers who go the church on regular base, are going less to church but are more active on social matters. The book explains that every soul has an eternal life. The writer is a dutch doctor called Pim van Lommel, can't find the book in Engish yet. Wim from Holland From: jan...@centurytel.net To: tmic-l...@eskimo.net Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:01:26 -0500 Subject: [TMIC] Death TM'ers, I have only been on this website about a year, but lately it seems that we are losing several members.Maybe Frank can weigh in on this one.Are these people dying because of TM, or is it that they have had it for so many years and they are elderly? Or is it because TM brings on other complications? What do you all know about this? I am really getting concerned. Janice _ RU Live de place to be voor Messengerfans http://www.rulive.nl/
RE: [TMIC] TAMIFLU....and....ANTIOXIDANTS
Here in Holland is also a small outbreak of the new flew. But, because flew is a illness the most of us already head, it seams in practice that the mexican flew is a mild one. Only the youngest generation and the oldest and people with other illnesses gets the Tamiflu here, people who normaly gets a flew shot are given now also for the Mexican flew. For all the other it is e few days in bed if they get it. At the same time the group who gets the flew, has a better resistance for all this kinds a flew in the future, like the group born before 1957 . Wim from Holland From: roseofr...@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 16:03:25 -0400 To: tmic-list@eskimo.com CC: roseofr...@aol.com Subject: [TMIC] TAMIFLUandANTIOXIDANTS Tamiflu linked to "bizarre" reactions Dear Friend, It's yet another case of the cure being worse than the disease. In the UK, more than half of the kids who have taken Tamiflu -- the antibiotic weapon of choice to combat the H1N1 virus -- have experienced side effects. Although most of these side effects have been minor (such as stomach cramps and nausea), as many as one in five of these kid have had disturbing, "neuropsychiatric" reactions to the drug. Reports say that kids have had an inability to think clearly, have suffered from nightmares, and have behaved "strangely." Unfortunately, these reactions are nothing new. The dangers of Tamiflu are well-documented. It's even been linked to the deaths of some children and teenagers. It's really no wonder. The drug is not just an antibiotic, like so many assume it is -- it's a neuraminidase inhibitor that blocks viral enzymes that can assist the flu virus in infecting the respiratory tract. In the U.S., the FDA has acknowledged that there have been as many as 1,800 reports of kids experiencing abnormal behavior when they're given Tamiful. In Japan, they've actually banned the use of Tamiflu by kids. But because the UK is in such a cold panic over swine flu, they're handing out Tamiflu like candy. Believe it or not, there's even a telephone hotline and website where people can order a prescription without having to consult a doctor. So far, as many as 150,000 people have been prescribed the drug in this manner. No wonder so many kids are having so many side effects. At the first sign of a runny nose or a headache, their parents are pumping them full of Tamiflu, thanks to Dr. Web. All of these risks in order to reduce the flu symptoms by less than two days. That's right: according to the makers of Tamiflu, clinical tests have shown that the drug only has the ability to reduce the duration of symptoms by about 36 hours. It just doesn't add up. Pop goes the antioxidants If you're looking for an antioxidant boost, you might want to head to the movies. After all, this is where you'd be likely to eat lots of popcorn, which, according to a new study, has a hefty dose of antioxidants. Who knew you could battle cancer while taking in a matinee? Researchers at the University of Scranton in Pennsylvania examined whole-grain snacks and cereals (not the sugary death bombs that I'm always warning you about) and found them to be just as rich in polyphenols as they are in fiber. Originally, it was thought that the high fiber content in these foods was what made them such effective weapons against cancer and heart disease. Turns out it's really a double-whammy of fiber and polyphenols. Raisin bran packed the biggest antioxidant punch, weighing in at a whopping 524 milligrams of antioxidants per serving. The surprise is that the antioxidant content is found in the grains that these foods are made from. Researchers found that popcorn is the king of antioxidant content when it comes to snack foods, so munch on... just go easy on that movie-theater liquid they call "butter." Always giving your brain some healthy snacks to chew on, William Campbell Douglass II, M.D. _ Windows werkt zelfs voor je studie http://www.windows.nl/Theme.aspx?id=2
RE: [TMIC] for constipation
Use Lactulose already 11 years and it does the job, makes you gassy but because it speeds up the natural process you will notice, it does not smell. Not the gas and the bowl. Start on 15 ml at the last meal, in 2 hours you will expirence what it will do. I use 50ml a day, but that is because I use fishoil capsules, wich makes the bowl harder. They are sold here in bottles of 1 liter for 14 euro's. But my insurance pays it, so thats not my worry. Wim from Holland Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 03:04:32 -0500 From: bpe...@austin.rr.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] for constipation Use Lactulose... in fact I am gonna ask my doc for some, just hope it is not really expensive Namaste, Bernie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactulose _ Nieuws, entertainment en de laatste roddels. Je vind het op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/
RE: [TMIC] question
I had trouble with the bowl, after 6 month TM. Went in the hospital for a week, I was complete filled up, and to less came out. After It was done, I was put on Lactulose, every day use. The spasme went much better. I still am on use of Lactolose, it has been 12 years now. Wim > Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:16:01 -0400 > From: wolft...@optonline.net > To: tmic-list@eskimo.com > Subject: [TMIC] question > > > Has anyone ever noticed that constipation, or not moving > your bowels regularly for any reason, can make other symptoms > worse, such as spasms? > > Kevin > _ Nieuws, entertainment en de laatste roddels. Je vind het op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/
RE: [TMIC] personal messages
Only when you open a deeper conversation with a person, not related to TM , press the reply button and not reply all. most of us expect to pick out some information, or simular stories wich helps them to deal with TM. It is good to know a person deeper, his point of few, nothing wrong with that, but keep it personal. It is the same as when you have a party with a lot of guest, all of coming interest you speak out loud, man or femail matters you keep in person. Wim from Holland To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:54:07 -0400 From: parkersw...@aol.com Subject: [TMIC] personal messages The personal messages are our way of getting personal with our friends here on the TM site. Why not? We all want to get to know each other with or w/o TM, don't we? Regardless of what we say, we are one big family and we forgive, forget and move on! Sparker _ Nieuw: onbeperkte opslagruimte in Windows Live Hotmail http://mail.live.com
[TMIC] OT: music moment
For my brother in laws 50th aneversery, my 2 sons, 2 nefews and there mother payed Hotel Claifornia for him. It is now on You Tube All 4 of them play or played in bands as gitarists and singers. On the left and middle my oldest and youngest son, they play in 'The Real Thing' and 'MANoMAN' both local bands. The drummer here is no longer in a band, the 12 string player plays in 'Textures', plays also in the US and the are all over Europe and Russia with the band. Wim from Holland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_iD_oj2ZBI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fomatit%2Ehyves%2Enl%2F%3Fref%3Dnewscrap%26pageid%3D3JTWVB0WRDICGCG0W&feature=player_embedded _ Krijg updates van je vrienden en blijf op de hoogte http://home.live.com
RE: [TMIC] Blured vision
I got my blured vision in the time the first signs were there month for TM. Only I did not know what was happening to me. Around a few month before. Meds did not make the difference. It got worse after the TM. I only take Baclofen, no pain meds. The most logical explenation for the eye-site problem was the age, around 43. But just a year before my eyes were checked by the medical serveces of my company. This discussion has come by every few years, look into the archives and you will see, that what we has found out. Blured vion is TM related, and medication has very little to do with that. Some meds will make a little difference, the mail course is TM. Also the age. Most of us are in the 40's or older. Yes guys, you are getting old. So it is a difficult discussion with the doctors, they simply keep it on the age, while we know, compairing this problem with eachother that it is also TM related. Wim from Holland From: ladyno...@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:46:22 -0400 To: tmic-list@eskimo.com; quad-l...@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Blured vision During the course of my medication regimen, I had taken medication that has caused me to have blurred vision. I know there has been others who have complained about having their vision impaired due to medication. My question is this: has anyone stopped taking the medication and have their vision improve or return to normal? Naomi C-4 Quadriplegic, since July 2, 2005 Due to Transverse Myelitis Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. _ Nieuws, entertainment en de laatste roddels. Je vind het op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/
[TMIC] arts page
In my TM time, already 12 years now I started painting as a hobby. Took a few years lessons but the man fall in love and went to Letvia. Because the photo's were not a succes to send them to you, I put them on a page at the internet. The page is: http://members.tele2.nl/jw.deenik05/. Wim from Holand _ De grappigste filmpjes vind je op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl
[TMIC] no luck on arts
I tried, made them smaller al the pictures, send them one by one. But none came through. I will send them in person for all who want to see. Maybe if I have time, put them on the internet on a page that anyone can reach, will try not only in dutch, but also in English. Wim from Holland. _ Gratis emoticons voor in je Messenger! http://www.msnmessengerexperience.nl/chuck/
[TMIC] arts
I also started doing arts since TM. It comes with periods, sometimes a year nothing and then a few paintings in a short period. I started small but at the end I tried some larger ones, and it is nice to do. But there is one problem with kids who has to decorate there new homes, since they are one there own, some paintings, especially the larger ones are all confiscated by the kids. I am proud fo it ofcourse, luckely I still have the pictures. The two i send you are the largest ones, 80 x 100cm (32 x 40 inch). I copied them from photo's of the internet. They are both original from Evard Munch. Both were been stolen out of the Swedisch museum and found back 5 years later. But I had nothing to do with that, they are named "The Madonna" and "The Cry". Tanks to Jim, who told me that the pictures and mails ate limited to 40k, I send them in two separate mails. Think I send you more, in the mail what it is, most of them are from pictures or photo's, with the help of a photo projector. Wim from Holland _ Gratis emoticons voor in je Messenger! http://www.msnmessengerexperience.nl/chuck/
[TMIC] mail blocked?
In the discussion of arts, I send two pictures of my work to share it with you, things I learned to do during the TM period. Send it twice but none of them came through. Are they blocked or cencored, one of them was the Madonna to the painting of Edvard Munch. Wim from Holland _ Haal meer uit je leven met Windows Live http://www.microsoft.com/netherlands/windowslive/Views/index.aspx
RE: [TMIC] Sex
It is good now and then to pick up this subject again. All growen up people and we have all to deal with it. Nobody is an exeption in that, to talk about it is just like subject like 'going to the toilet'. Nobody seen you doing it, but verery body knows and understands it happens. My TM is between t6 - t10. You can say threre is no sex at all. Tm struck me at the age of 43, lucky we had 3 kids already. From that period on ( 6 month before) sex became more and more a problem and from the day of TM there was none. Because of the spasme I had du the temp differences, nice laying against to each other was also not possible, after a minut my legs started to spasm and I was kicking her. After a while also the lust was gone. Sometimes I forsed my self to concentrate on it, but it ended with thinking on shopping lists and bills I had to pay. Lucky for me, my wife had seen that the love was still the same, but only the sex part was gone, we had both our tears about that. Now 12 years later we are still married, show our love in many ways to each other ( don't forget that part). Kids are all out of the house and we can do what we like, within all restricktions of the TM. The not understanding part of the outside world hits us harder as what we made out of it. Wim from Holland. From: bgunny7...@aol.com Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:02:40 -0400 To: Tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Sex Some Interesting points have been brought up in this discussion, so I'm gonna chime in. Understand, I'm only speaking for myself, but there may be some points to ponder here. Ok, when I first got married again, and she came to Ohio, things went well the first night we were together, but, after I got to see her demeanor and attitude, things went quickly down the tubes. It didn't take long for her to tell me she hated me, and wished I was dead. I suppose part of that was because I forced her to go to work. In any case, with me, not all men, physical attraction was the main purpose to get involved. One needs to take time to find out what kind of person lives inside the one you want to tie up with, and, is that the same person that's projected to the world, or are they different? Are they one person at home, and another to the outside world. If so, then that's a phoney. Since this wonderful probelm of TM has so graciously decided to rule my life, I've begun to see that looks don't mean a helluva lot. Oh, not the physicality doesn't matter, but it shouldn't be uppermost. In your youth, maybe, but as you age, you take on a different outlook. I know for myself, attitude plays a big role. If your a weasel of a person, nothings gonna happen, no matter how hard I try, or what pill I take. If, and if, I feel the desire, and your receptive, possibly. Also, age plays a role in this. I find the oder I get, the less desire I have. As far as feelings go, meaning sensation, if my partner has diminished sensation, I'll do what it takes to try and get some back. It's like, if you don't use it, you lose it syndrome. Maybe that'll work, maybe it wont, but, if you have feelings for you partner, you'll at least try. Men have a way of thinking, well, I can't feel anything or if you can't feel anything, what's the use. Oh yeah, what about at least giving it a shot. Your mind may come into play here in that, you remember what it was like, maybe it'll be that way again. But, if you don't try. you'll never know. One thing I've found out through my trek in life is, men need to know they're needed, and women need to know they're loved. If those two needs are met, the rest should fall into place. If you love each other, then damnit, show it. It's never too late to experiment. Take those old tapes that are playing in your mind, instilled by parents who say, certain sexual techniques if you will, are taboo, and throw em in the shit can. There's nothing taboo about loving someone, and showing them that you do. I gotta do more thinking on this matter, but these are the thoughts that have been running through my mind since this subject came up. Shop Popular Dell Laptops now starting at $349! _ Haal meer uit je leven met Windows Live http://www.microsoft.com/netherlands/windowslive/Views/index.aspx
[TMIC] Tysabri (natalizumab)
Is there anyone who has expirence with this new kind of drug. It is defeloped for MS but what good is for that group, sometimes helps for TM patients. Wim from Holland. _ Nieuws, entertainment en de laatste roddels. Je vind het op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/
RE: [TMIC] Lottery and Dreams
Every week I become a millionair, and dream how it could be in my house I bought in Portugal, a nice warm climat with a swimmingpool. So much to dream, and so less to spend when the numbers are falling... Up to next week, dreaming a full week before the numbers are falling again. Get tired by the idear to actualise it, buying a house flying up and down, shopping for all the new stuff and decorate it, arranging people for gardening, household and pool... Glad I have another week not to coop with all those problems.. :-) Wim from Holland > Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:45:32 -0700 > From: a...@artfarm.com > To: tmic-list@eskimo.com > Subject: [TMIC] Lottery and Dreams > > > > > Speaking of dreams, I dreamed I was roller skating last night - it was = > > wonderful and though some may think it silly, it gives me hope. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tami > > Beautiful, Tami! > I too treasure my walking, running, dancing dreams and have a > very changed list for Lottery winnings from the one I had pre-TM. > > I want to fix me, but until that happens, I would love a smooth driveway, > a path into my yard, a ramp with the right inclination, an IBot, a > masseuse, a lift to see again the second floor of my house, and my > basement, a chauffeur... as awful as TM is, money would make so many > things easier to bear > > Akua > _ Krijg updates van je vrienden en blijf op de hoogte http://home.live.com
[TMIC] update granddad
I'll try again. On this photo she had the same pose as we saw her on a photo in the womb. Vingers in het mouth and a hand besides her head. The first time I sended more but they did not came trough. Wim from Holland _ Blijf altijd op de hoogte van wat jouw vrienden doen http://home.live.com<>
[TMIC] granddad
Just a short note from Holland. My oldest son has become a father, so I am a grandfather now. It felt like I had my own child again in my arms. She is the most beautifull girl I have ever seen since my own daugther. Here name is Tess. This little sunshine I like to share it with all of you. Life is so much nicer to live now, it is more a rich feeling I ever could inmagine. Wim from Holland _ Haal meer uit je leven met Windows Live http://windowslive.microsoft.nl/WL/Home
RE: [TMIC] Bladder control
That is the same I said in the beginning of TM, because I hatet the catherisasion in the hospital. Untill I learned to do it myself, instead of sitting on the toilet half the night, just before sleeping and sleep the hole night in one peace. In a few days I did not mind to do it, at all. It brought back the rest in my body and legs. He is lucky that his bladder stays closed, because it can also the other way around, as you could read. he just has to put a knob over in his mind. I caterise three times a day, right out of bed in the morning, just before dinner and before going to sleep. Between, just like your husband, little pees. When the bladder is full, it opens not so well as it is been half full, is my expirence. Ones he is on that, there will be much more rest during the day, and he will be more active for pleasure instead of using all his power to go to the toilet the hole day. Wim from Holland. From: sally.wilkin...@genesisdesign.uk.comto: tmic-l...@eskimo.comdate: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:40:02 +Subject: [TMIC] Bladder control Hi Guys Am I right in thinking that bladder control can be an issue with TM? My TM husband thinks its not, and that his visits to the loo 7-10 times a night and needing to suddenly pee urgently at any time have nothing to do with his TM! Kind regards Sally in the UK Sally Wilkinson Business Development Manager Genesis Design The Barn Ipsden Oxfordshire OX10 6AS +44(0)1491 682277 sally.wilkin...@genesisdesign.uk.com _ Nieuw: nu ook chatten op je mobiel! http://www.overaljevriendenbijje.nl/#superdeal
RE: [TMIC] constipation
Regina I use Lactulose for 12 years now. It is good and safe. It keeps the bowel soft and easy to come out. It contains natural sugers wich make the proces fastener. If you use it a while you will notice that the bowel also hardly smell. It makes you more windy as normal, but because the fast process, here also no smell. I started with Lactulose, after a bowel bloccade, wich kept me in hospital for a week, and very painfull. In Hospital they gave me 90ml a day, during the bloccade. After that they recommand that I went on with Lactolose. Now I use normaly 30ml ones a day. But because of the fishoil I also take, it went up to 50ml a day. Take it just before a meal and some drink after. It workes very well. Wim from Holland. Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:47:15 -0800From: regina...@sbcglobal.netto: tmic-l...@eskimo.comsubject: [TMIC] constipation Years ago, the doctor prescribed LACTULOSE to my mother after she had a stroke leaving her with major problems including a horrible case of constipation. He said that it doesn't irritate your bowels. Wondering if any of you even heard of it. Kevin, I would like to hear more about the herb you recommend. R _ Jouw nieuws en entertainment, vind je op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/
RE: [TMIC] IVIG
You are right about the biopsy, ones having TM doctors like to know if they can find out what caused it. But whatever the cause was, damage is done and that knowledge brings you noghing any further. The IVIG, as I understand, having solumedrol or stuff like that by IV, has beter results as oral medication. Most of the time you get a high dose for three or five days and in some cases medication to build it off. It is bad stuff, but most of us had a good benefit. Wim from Holland.> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:57:18 -0500> From: wolft...@optonline.net> To: marieke...@hotmail.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com> Subject: [TMIC] IVIG> > > Does IVIG reduce inflammation? I think a doctor wants to try it on me, > but they> want me to have a nerve biopsy first and I don't want to because I've > read that> a nerve biopsy can cause permanent numbness in the biopsy site, and I don't> want or need any more numbness. However, I may get desperate enough> to do this because I don't want to live this way if there's a chance of > improvement.> > Kevin> > > > > > > marieke dufresne wrote:> > RE: IVIG, I had it after the first 3 weeks of TM. I had it every day > > for 5 days. There is no reason to have it more often UNLESS you have a > > recurring autoimmune disorder, ie: if your TM is recurring. No point > > if you had ONE attack many years ago, it would not change anything now.> > I got some movement back following the IVIG, but no one knows if it > > was due to that or the steroids or> > Marieke RN> > TM @T1 since March 2004> >> > > > Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:28:43 -0800> > From: tmic-digest-requ...@eskimo.com> > Subject: tmic-digest Digest V2009 #20> > To: tmic-dig...@eskimo.com> >> >> >> > --Forwarded Message Attachment--> >> > tmic-digest Digest Volume 2009 : Issue 20> > > > Today's Topics:> > [TMIC] Washington Post article/Intra [ "Trudy Ogilvie" > RE: [TMIC] Washington Post article/I [ "Gerry Surette" > > >> >> > --Forwarded Message Attachment--> > Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:16:24 -0500> > From: mother...@gmail.com> > To: snow121...@hotmail.com> > CC: tmic-list@eskimo.com> > Subject: [TMIC] Washington Post article/Intravenous immune globulin> >> > Did anyone get a chance to read the Washington Post article I sent > > out. A young teenager was given intravenous immune globulin." at > > Children's hospital after he was diagnosed with Transverse Myelitis, > > when the steroids didn't work. Two weeks later he walked out and has > > made the basketball team at his college. I asked my neuro about this > > and she said that it was too late for me, but if I insisted she would > > help me work with Medicare (they really give you a hard time!) to give > > it a try. Tho she said I would have to have these infusions every 8 > > weeks or so for the rest of my life? She did say that she doubted > > very much that it would help at all.> > Has anyone here ever had these infusions...??> >> > Carol I was wondering if you could talk to your neuro? Just a thought!> >> > Also I use the same quote as you but it's only on my Hotmail account.. > > It was nice to see it again!> > Trudy> >> >> >> >> > --Forwarded Message Attachment--> > Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:47:55 -0500> > From: suret...@sympatico.ca> > To: mother...@gmail.com> > CC: tmic-list@eskimo.com> > Subject: RE: [TMIC] Washington Post article/Intravenous immune globulin> >> > yes I have had that treatment twice; having had ItP this procedure helped > > raise my white blood cell count. It didn't help me otherwise; the treament > > last 4 to 5 hours intravenously from 3 to 5 days at a strech. If you go to > > the hospital to have the trreatments my hemotologist recemmended I have > > someone with me on my way home. Scince the "bag" is keept cold prior to use > > they usually cover you up with a blanket. otherwise I had no side effects. > > the nurse who gave me the treatment was gorgeous so the day went by fast> > > > > > >From: "Trudy Ogilvie" > > >To: "C E" > > >CC: tmic-list@eskimo.com> > >Subject: [TMIC] Washington Post article/Intravenous immune globulin> > >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:16:24 -0500> > >> > >Did anyone get a chance to read the Washington Post article I sent out. A> > >
RE: [TMIC] UNSUBSCRIBE
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[TMIC] Gelukkig Nieuwjaar
Gelukkig Nieuwjaar! Happy 2009 everbody Wim from Holland. _ De leukste online filmpjes vind je op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl
RE: [TMIC] Too Cold
Try an electric underlayer, wich can set on and off in parts. I use only the legs side, wich helps. My wife goes earlier to bed as I am, and I step in a warm bed in this cold days. As soon as I get sleepy, I put it off to avoid burning legs at night. Wim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:39:49 -0500To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] Too Cold Hi All, Is anyone else out there suffering from that bone-chilling cold that settles deeply into your bones and nothing you do helps to warm you up? I began to get cold earlier in the evening and have had Dave put mega blankets on me until they are so heavy I can barely lift them. I now have a queen sized silk blanket doubled on top of all of my other covers on my small hospital bed. This kind of cold came with the Transverse Myelitis and I don't believe it will ever go away. At least there is no kind of medication to warm me up that I know of. Does anyone out there have a clue? I know that some of you have also felt this chilling cold. What do you do to combat it? It is ridiculous the lengths I go to in order to be able to sleep, but am so uncomfortable that I can't. At least I am tired enough to give it a go... Jude Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. _ De leukste online filmpjes vind je op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl
[TMIC] OT: new president
Concratulations America with your new President. As you know, the most of us in Europe is glad that Obama is the man now for 4 years. Good also that so many bring out there vote, so it is a democratic dission of all Americans. We trust here that he will place the best man on the right place, and also are sucjestions here, we would not be surpriced that he will take one or two Republicans in his gouverment. McCain had an support from only 10% here, we consider the man as ultra right. As you had to know that the Democrats are to compair with our parties who are right from the center. And with over 40% lefties it is not strange that Obama was for us the best choise. Wim from Holland. _ Weet jij het beter? Geef je mening over de taal in Windows Live-producten! http://www.microsoft.com/language/MTCF/mtcf_home.aspx?langid=1455&cult=nl-nl
[TMIC] Healthcare and President
Also for not Americans, it is important who will be president of the US. Not only the financial management in the world, also for health care. It makes a big diference if there is somebody in charche that make it possible that for this group of TM'rs scientists can do there work and that there is enought money to do so. If you want to fight a war, do it in the labs. If they can get 1% of the money cancer cures, and lot of others are cumming closer by. Don't let the US become a third world nation, by going on , on this path, but make it back the number 1 in the world. Is it to much for the richest country in the world, to ask for there people to have heathcare for all, heathy food and a roof on top of there heads? Aids groups of doctors and dentists are now working in the US, in staed of Africa to give free heath care for the 51 million who do not has heathcare in your country. Don't you shame your self. See that you get your info, not from Foxnews, but from BBC and CNN. Look what is really going on. And choose for a President wich can those matters make better. You need a change... Wim from Holland PS. This is also a good subject to discus on the TMIC group in my poit of few. _ Uniek: Onbeperkt chatten op je mobiel voor maar € 2,95 per maand! http://www.overaljevriendenbijje.nl/#superdeal
[TMIC] OT: house problems
Just curious, are there people also of our group who are in trouble now with the new financial crises in the States? Wim _ Jouw nieuws en entertainment, vind je op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/
RE: [TMIC] no emails
Glad seeing the list is stil working. Indeed it was very quiet for days. Wim Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 05:26:48 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] no emails have I been shooed off the list or is it just very quiet??? Tobe :O) _ De mooiste afbeeldingen van Angelina Jolie vind je met Live Search http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=angelina%20jolie&FORM=MIINTM
RE: [TMIC] new friend
Also welcome from Holland. Your friends are world wide as you see.. Wim Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:40:13 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] new friend my name is amanda and i am newly diagnosed with tm. i am still in the hospital in rehab. hope this gets through to the list. i could use sum friends. _ Uniek: Onbeperkt chatten op je mobiel voor maar € 2,95 per maand! http://www.overaljevriendenbijje.nl/#superdeal
RE: [TMIC]
You must slowly build up the level of Baclofen. Maybe after a time on 10mg a day you can go higher. The body has to coopthe that level and it takes some time. You can't say in a few weeks it is everything or nothinng. Just be patient. A pump if fot those on a high level when the pills are not enough anymore. Don't go to fast for that, there is also a netive site on a pump. Wim Subject: RE: [TMIC]Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:18:56 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com Hi Wim – I think you are right about Baclofen – I think it is doing a number on me. I am very weak now – it’s very hard to get up from sitting & my lower back is in pain. It’s even difficult to sit up straight. I don’ think it’s from exercise although I am taking a break from it now fof the most part. I spoke to my neuro yesterday & she said I could go from 20mg/day to 10mg. She also said it should get better over time (?). She also said the pump will help because it injects a tiny amount into my spine only, not a larger amount into my system like the pills Barney From: wim from holland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 8:57 AMTo: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); tmic-list-at-eskimo.comSubject: RE: [TMIC] I am on 60mg a day now. You have to find for your self the good combination, between the amount of Baclofen and the movement you still can do the best. Baclofen is taking away some strength, but it also take away the stiffness. Normal you start with a low dose of 15 a day, and after a few month you can say if it is enough or you go to a higher dose. In that time I had also trouble with short memory loss, if it was the Baclofen or the TM, still don't know. Now it is almost back to normal. Wim Subject: RE: [TMIC]Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:21:41 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com Thanks Wim - interesting - - have you tried Baclofen? I also can walk (with walker) and since taking baclofen pills for 1 1/2 weeks, it has gotten harder to do - especially getting up - I have been blaming it on over-exercise, I have been getting down on the floor & doing some exercises a couple of days per week, and I am going to stop for a while to see if it improves. BERNARD BUTCHER From: wim from holland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:43 PMTo: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); tmic-list-at-eskimo.comSubject: RE: [TMIC] My neuro told me that a pump is not a good idea. Because the stiffness I can stand on my legs, even walk a little with crutches. Handy for going to a toilet or take a shower. When a pump is installed, standing is out of the question, no stiffnes and bad feelings is one, but no function is for me out of the question. Wim> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:18:32 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tmic-list@eskimo.com> Subject: [TMIC] > > > Hi all - I was told by my neuro that I may need to get a baclofen pump.> Right now I am taking baclofen pills, and next (if I have no bad> reactions, I guess) I have to go through an evaluation test whereby they> inject baclofen into my spinal cord - then the pump gets installed with> a tube which automatically injects small amounts of baclofen into my> spinal cord.> Has anyone gone through this process? Stiffness is one of my biggest> problems right now & she tells me the pump is the way to go. Sounds> scary, the pump is actually inside me.> > BARNEY> > Je foto's bewerken en in elkaar laten overlopen met Windows Live Photo Gallery Je foto's bewerken en in elkaar laten overlopen met Windows Live Fotogalerij _ De leukste online filmpjes vind je op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl
RE: [TMIC]
I also swim a lot. My PT explained to me that because of the weightless in the water , you have a better bloodstream in the leggs. You can exercise in the water without using the muscles power. I too have a lot of benefits of my swimming. Wim Subject: RE: [TMIC]Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:11:41 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com Regarding the exercise question...I have found that over exercising is detrimental to my condition. We want to exercise in the hope we will feel better...but in the case of TM this is not true. I have gone from going to the gym 4 times a week for a couple hours each time to simply swimming 3 times a week for 45 minutes. I am getting some good cardio and I am not letting my muscles atrophy. Swimming was recommended to me by Dr. Kerr and since going on this regiment I feel better and less fatigued. I am also not messing up my knees and or hips.The best thing about swimming is that I can now run...in the pool...and not worry about falling! Rob in New Jersey From: wim from holland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:02 AMTo: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); tmic-list-at-eskimo.comSubject: RE: [TMIC] About the exercisings you do, dont overdo. It breakes more than it builds up. The exercises you have to do is for maintain the muscles. When you try to build up, the effect can be the opposit. Take care Wim Subject: RE: [TMIC]Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:21:41 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com Thanks Wim - interesting - - have you tried Baclofen? I also can walk (with walker) and since taking baclofen pills for 1 1/2 weeks, it has gotten harder to do - especially getting up - I have been blaming it on over-exercise, I have been getting down on the floor & doing some exercises a couple of days per week, and I am going to stop for a while to see if it improves. BERNARD BUTCHER From: wim from holland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:43 PMTo: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); tmic-list-at-eskimo.comSubject: RE: [TMIC] My neuro told me that a pump is not a good idea. Because the stiffness I can stand on my legs, even walk a little with crutches. Handy for going to a toilet or take a shower. When a pump is installed, standing is out of the question, no stiffnes and bad feelings is one, but no function is for me out of the question. Wim> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:18:32 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tmic-list@eskimo.com> Subject: [TMIC] > > > Hi all - I was told by my neuro that I may need to get a baclofen pump.> Right now I am taking baclofen pills, and next (if I have no bad> reactions, I guess) I have to go through an evaluation test whereby they> inject baclofen into my spinal cord - then the pump gets installed with> a tube which automatically injects small amounts of baclofen into my> spinal cord.> Has anyone gone through this process? Stiffness is one of my biggest> problems right now & she tells me the pump is the way to go. Sounds> scary, the pump is actually inside me.> > BARNEY> > Je foto's bewerken en in elkaar laten overlopen met Windows Live Photo Gallery Plan je evenement, nodig mensen uit en deel je foto's met Windows Live Events _ Jouw nieuws en entertainment, vind je op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/
RE: [TMIC] can you answer?
The TM it self is temporarely. It is the damage what is done to us that is different. What your husband has now, is caused by a TM, it is the outcome of a few years hard working to try the damage keep as small as possible. For only a third of the TMers it is succesfull, an other third keep a few small matters, as cold feet and so on. The group here are the most of the third which has large damages of the TM, most of the others are not in this group anymore or has never been here. For those it was just a temporarely nightmare. Wim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:45:17 -0400To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] can you answer? My husband Jim was diagnosed with TM in May 2005. Since then he has been to many doctors, rehab, physical therapies, ETC. A few days ago he had an appointment with his neuro to discuss recent tests he'd had done. The neuro told him that he doesn't have TM anymore but now has AXONAL PERIPHERAL NEUROPATHY. Have any of you ever been told this. This is very confusing to us. Thanks to all of you for giving us the opportunity to ask questions. I will watch for a reply. Carol and Jim Belz MI It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. _ Probeer Live Search: de zoekmachine van de makers van MSN! http://www.live.com/?searchOnly=true
RE: [TMIC]
About the exercisings you do, dont overdo. It breakes more than it builds up. The exercises you have to do is for maintain the muscles. When you try to build up, the effect can be the opposit. Take care Wim Subject: RE: [TMIC]Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:21:41 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com Thanks Wim - interesting - - have you tried Baclofen? I also can walk (with walker) and since taking baclofen pills for 1 1/2 weeks, it has gotten harder to do - especially getting up - I have been blaming it on over-exercise, I have been getting down on the floor & doing some exercises a couple of days per week, and I am going to stop for a while to see if it improves. BERNARD BUTCHER From: wim from holland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:43 PMTo: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); tmic-list-at-eskimo.comSubject: RE: [TMIC] My neuro told me that a pump is not a good idea. Because the stiffness I can stand on my legs, even walk a little with crutches. Handy for going to a toilet or take a shower. When a pump is installed, standing is out of the question, no stiffnes and bad feelings is one, but no function is for me out of the question. Wim> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:18:32 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tmic-list@eskimo.com> Subject: [TMIC] > > > Hi all - I was told by my neuro that I may need to get a baclofen pump.> Right now I am taking baclofen pills, and next (if I have no bad> reactions, I guess) I have to go through an evaluation test whereby they> inject baclofen into my spinal cord - then the pump gets installed with> a tube which automatically injects small amounts of baclofen into my> spinal cord.> Has anyone gone through this process? Stiffness is one of my biggest> problems right now & she tells me the pump is the way to go. Sounds> scary, the pump is actually inside me.> > BARNEY> > Je foto's bewerken en in elkaar laten overlopen met Windows Live Photo Gallery _ De mooiste afbeeldingen van Angelina Jolie vind je met Live Search http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=angelina%20jolie&FORM=MIINTM
RE: [TMIC]
I am on 60mg a day now. You have to find for your self the good combination, between the amount of Baclofen and the movement you still can do the best. Baclofen is taking away some strength, but it also take away the stiffness. Normal you start with a low dose of 15 a day, and after a few month you can say if it is enough or you go to a higher dose. In that time I had also trouble with short memory loss, if it was the Baclofen or the TM, still don't know. Now it is almost back to normal. Wim Subject: RE: [TMIC]Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:21:41 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com Thanks Wim - interesting - - have you tried Baclofen? I also can walk (with walker) and since taking baclofen pills for 1 1/2 weeks, it has gotten harder to do - especially getting up - I have been blaming it on over-exercise, I have been getting down on the floor & doing some exercises a couple of days per week, and I am going to stop for a while to see if it improves. BERNARD BUTCHER From: wim from holland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:43 PMTo: Butcher, Bernard G (NY80); tmic-list-at-eskimo.comSubject: RE: [TMIC] My neuro told me that a pump is not a good idea. Because the stiffness I can stand on my legs, even walk a little with crutches. Handy for going to a toilet or take a shower. When a pump is installed, standing is out of the question, no stiffnes and bad feelings is one, but no function is for me out of the question. Wim> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:18:32 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tmic-list@eskimo.com> Subject: [TMIC] > > > Hi all - I was told by my neuro that I may need to get a baclofen pump.> Right now I am taking baclofen pills, and next (if I have no bad> reactions, I guess) I have to go through an evaluation test whereby they> inject baclofen into my spinal cord - then the pump gets installed with> a tube which automatically injects small amounts of baclofen into my> spinal cord.> Has anyone gone through this process? Stiffness is one of my biggest> problems right now & she tells me the pump is the way to go. Sounds> scary, the pump is actually inside me.> > BARNEY> > Je foto's bewerken en in elkaar laten overlopen met Windows Live Photo Gallery _ Jouw nieuws en entertainment, vind je op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/
RE: [TMIC]
My neuro told me that a pump is not a good idea. Because the stiffness I can stand on my legs, even walk a little with crutches. Handy for going to a toilet or take a shower. When a pump is installed, standing is out of the question, no stiffnes and bad feelings is one, but no function is for me out of the question. Wim> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:18:32 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tmic-list@eskimo.com> Subject: [TMIC] > > > Hi all - I was told by my neuro that I may need to get a baclofen pump.> Right now I am taking baclofen pills, and next (if I have no bad> reactions, I guess) I have to go through an evaluation test whereby they> inject baclofen into my spinal cord - then the pump gets installed with> a tube which automatically injects small amounts of baclofen into my> spinal cord.> Has anyone gone through this process? Stiffness is one of my biggest> problems right now & she tells me the pump is the way to go. Sounds> scary, the pump is actually inside me.> > BARNEY> > _ Jouw nieuws en entertainment, vind je op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/
RE: [TMIC] HAPPY BROWNIES (mj)
Please send us the recipe. Wim from Holland Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:29:43 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: tmic-list@eskimo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] HAPPY BROWNIES (mj) For a while I have been using "Happy Brownies" made with marijuana to help me sleep at night when I get the heebie jeebies, fuzzy feelings, burning/freezing pain, spasms, or whatever seems to be keeping me awake. I get by pretty well during the day with my meds, but they don't seem to help as much at night. We just hadn't gotten a very good tasting brownie, however, I was getting kind of used to it. I needed a little something to eat afterwards and plenty to swallow it down. We have experimented with several different brands of mixes, but yesterday tried a recipe from one of my cookbooks. We were so surprised, as the butter came out tasting terrible, but the brownies were really good. I didn't even need anything afterwards. If anyone is interested in trying to make there own "happy brownies", I'll be happy to forward the recipe to you. Hugs to all, Barbara A The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now! _ Speel de nieuwste Messenger game! http://www.waarhebjijhetgedaan.nl/linklaunch/
RE: [TMIC] Steriods AGAIN!
Carol I too hatet the steroids every time, but looking back it kept me able to walk a little with canes, every time just before I was having trouble to do the most simple matters on my feet (toilet, bathing and dressing) . Still also after 11 years I go back this summer for a short treatment. Everytime after I felt sick for a few weeks, but it was worse it. The last time was more than three years ago. Every time now the benefits is longer and the total picture gives a study image. It also gives me a better state of mind, I can here now what my wife and gids are going to say, after the treatment. SHUT UP! Wim from Holland From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sat, 3 May 2008 12:15:33 -0400Subject: [TMIC] Steriods AGAIN! Hi all, I know some of you do not believe in going the steroid route, but when that's what your neurologist recommends and you are "getting worse", what is one suppose to do? Anyway, I will be receiving out-patient solumedrol next week, Mon-Fri. I hate steroids because they not only make my blood sugar out of control, they also make me crazy. I remember 2 years ago when I had this treatment, by day 3 all I did was cry. I was never so glad to get something out of my system as these steroids. My local neuro says either I am having a TM flair-up or I have MS and it just has not shown itself yet. Last week, I had a MRI of my brain and thoracic spine, with and without contrast and there was no change from 2 years ago, which is great news, but then WHY is my good leg getting worse It feels like it is shot full of Novocain from the knee down. When I met with Dr. Kerr 2 years ago, he said I definitely do not have MS and didn't think I would have any flair ups of TM. I am in a state of confusion. If I have MS like my local neuro thinks, don't you think it would be evident in my new MRI's? Wish me luck. Carol in Culver, IN _ Check je Hotmail nu ook op je mobiel! http://windowslivemobile.msn.com/BrowserServiceHotmail.aspx?lang=nl-nl
[TMIC] again Lyrica
Please before you bring up a subject, please check the archives. Ofcourse things will change in time, but some discussions are still fresh. By checking the archives on subjects you only can find a answer to your questions, but can also get a better few in the case you are interested in and come up with questions no one had thought about. Not that I will say that any question have to be checked, but a lot of medication is already discussed. Wim from Holland _ Check je Hotmail nu ook op je mobiel! http://windowslivemobile.msn.com/BrowserServiceHotmail.aspx?lang=nl-nl
RE: [TMIC] QUESTION
The TM made that some tissue around the spine is damaged. This damaged tissue is seen by the body as wrong element. The immune system attacs this tissue. The fact that some parts are not working or bad working is proof that the immune system is working. Thats why some people get treatments to bring the immune system to zero, in the hope that when it recoveres, the body is back to normal. At the end, I never heard proof it worked, sometimes for a short period. Fact is when I have a UTI, I have erections , while being heathy, forget it. What ever I tried. Also when I go for a pee, I can empty my bladder complete, normal I have to caterise. So when the immune system let me down at some points, parts will work. Wim from Holland Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:09:29 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] QUESTION It is funny after having TM for more than 10 years I still don't truly understand it. Do we have weak immune systems or did we merely have an episode in which our immune system did not work properly…a one time (for many of us) thing? Rob in New Jersey _ De mooiste afbeeldingen van Angelina Jolie vind je met Live Search http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=angelina%20jolie&FORM=MIINTM
RE: [TMIC] UNBELIEVABLE!
If you look in to the archives, probenly you will find a lot of people that think, or almost know for sure, that stress is related to sicknesses by lowering the immune system. This discussion has been done for several times, also blurry vision, cold feet, painfull knees and ancles, sensitivity, no sex , marijuana and more. Follow this group now for over more than 10 years. Wim from Holland Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:27:47 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] UNBELIEVABLE! OK…Is this list good or not! So far having approx. 10 responses….9 out of 10 state that they had a minor sickness but they were going thru a very stressful time in there lives. I am totally convinced that stress lowered my immume system to the point that TM occurred. I find it unbelievable how many on the list agree! I believe in order to find a cure you must first find the cause….perhaps we have!!! Rob in New Jersey _ De leukste online filmpjes vind je op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl
RE: [TMIC] my story
Gerry Sorry to here that you have such a hard time. From expirience I had the same problems with the shaking in bed. I noticed when on the evening you keep your legs warmer ( mine are always cold) even when they feels warm enough, the muscle spams in bed are much lesser. Cuddle up to your wife, because of the big difference in tempeture can also make it worse. We can only do that from half spring, untill half autum. I wrap a blanket around my legs in the evening to keep them warm. Look out for draft, that cools down the most in house. Especialy in spring, the first nice days and then the windows open for fresh air. Those are my baddest times. Wim from Holland> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tmic-list@eskimo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:19:32 -0500> Subject: [TMIC] my story> > HI; My name is gerry; someone asked me for my "story" why i do not know > anyway here goes. I am 60 years young. I first contact mt at the age of 21. > I paralysized from the lung cage down. including a 2month stay in icu I was > in the hospital for approximately 5 months. I had to learn to walk again > etc. three years later I had another episode this time lasting two months. > full recovery until 2001 when the symtoms returned. I now have constant pain > 24/7 I have no circulation to speak of My brain can not g9ive my body > correct temperatures. sometimes I feel cold when I am actually quite warm > and sometimes I feel warm when I am actually cold. This event is certainly > brought to the forefront when I cuddle up to my poor wife in the middle to > the night. and wrap my cold hands around her body. since last Saturday I > have slept but 4 hours. I get these muscle spasms which hurt like hell > pardon the expression. There is nothing to be done for them . I take quinne > but it doesn't seem to help. These last from a few minutes to 6 hours as it > did last noth. soemtimes I get five or six a night. I take wellbutrin for > depression,gabapentine for pain and a whole bunch of othere pills to help me > walk. Yes I am fortunate that I can still walk . Every step is pain galore. > I use a cane but have a walker and wheelchair for the very near future. Last > week I was diganosed with ITP ablood cell disorder whereby my white blood > cells are killing each other off. Next Monday I will be enteing the hospital > for chemo , radiation and a bone marrow transplant. Oh my life is far from > dull. Every day brings new challenges, new adventures,. Every morning I pray > for strenght. Every day I try to accomplish something whether its laundry > preparing evening meals or just cleaning up the apartment. we have a cat ; > Astray I picked up .She feels right at home. She sleeps at the foot of the > bed. I love cooking; barbequing; walking; Yes I force myself to walk and > when the weather is bad I walk along the corridor sometimes climbing up and > down the stairs. but most of all I love my wife. it is scary but she reads > my mind. She is my caregiver; my soulmate. I don't know what i would do > without her. I thank God almighty for sending here to me.I too will need > your prayers for next week. many thanks. gerry> > _ Nieuw: Windows Live Messenger 2008! Gratis downloaden http://get.live.com/messenger
OT RE: [TMIC] Obama
Gunny wrote: will he take the oath of office on a bible or the koran? As European I thought, that he took his oath to the people of America, to show he means it for him self he used the bible. I don't know what Bush used, a roll of toilet paper is the only thing I can think of, seeing how he helped your country in the shit and how rich he maked his buddies and family. Cut the value of the dollar almost in half during his time. Because of a lot financial problems in your country, we hope here on Clinton, but we understand also the popularity of Obama. As we see it here, he will easerly win it from McCain at the end. Better chanches as Clinton seeing his speatches. Wim from Hollland From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:39:52 -0500To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] Obama Think about this long and hard people. I found this article I have attached, it's Worth the read. I have to ask myself, if Obama is elected President, will he take the oath of office on a bible or the koran? Media Matters - Schlussel: Should Barack Hussein Obama be president "when we a Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living. _ Jouw nieuws en entertainment, vind je op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/
RE: [TMIC] FW: Unable to deliver your message
That happens to me sometimes when I make the choise Aswer All. Bug in the program somewere? Wim from Holland From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 18:48:11 +Subject: [TMIC] FW: Unable to deliver your message --GOD BLESS US ALL> -- Forwarded Message: --From: Yahoo! Groups <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unable to deliver your messageDate: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:22:26 +>> > We are unable to deliver the message from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.> > The email address used to send your message is not subscribed to this > group. If you are a member of this group, please be aware that you may > only send messages to this group using the email address(es) you have > registered with Yahoo! Groups.> > If you would like to subscribe to this group:> 1. visit> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/transversemyelitissupport/join> -OR-> 2. send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For further assistance, please visit > http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html --Doorgestuurd bericht in de bijlage--From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [TMIC] Question - possible relasp?Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:18:11 +Candi, Don't wait call your neuro. Did you get a flu shot. I did and I almost died from it with pain and memories of the first time I was hit. Please let us know what he says. Reacurrant TM is rare ,they say but I think my flu shot gave me mine back. I feel all the old tingling and pain. And I was fine before I took that shot. I won't take another one. Rick --GOD BLESS US ALL> -- Original message --From: CANDISKALLEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> > > I'm not sure what is going on but for the past 3 days the pain in my back has > been horrible - no matter what I do. The usual doesn't seem to be helping. > > I've also noticed more tingling in my left hand/arm than usual. I've also been > terribly tired - sleeping 13+ hours at night plus falling asleep in the > afternoons. I haven't felt like this for a long time. Up untill last > weekend, I was feeling "good" and other than shopping nothing more strenious to > make me feel like this. > > Is this an intication that I'm having a relasp or on the verge of a relasp? > Should I get on the phone with my neuro? > > Candy K. > > _ De mooiste afbeeldingen van Angelina Jolie vind je met Live Search http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=angelina%20jolie&FORM=MIINTM
RE: [TMIC] Question - possible relasp?
Can also mean that on the good day, while shopping you get a biginning cold or felt so good that you did too much that day. Especialy outside they feel good during the cold, the sensativity is less. Can take a few days before you are recovered from a good day, I had that experience before. Sometimes it took me a week. Keep the legs warm and hope for the best, when it stays you can discus it with the neuro. Wim from Holland Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:00:25 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] Question - possible relasp? I'm not sure what is going on but for the past 3 days the pain in my back has been horrible - no matter what I do. The usual doesn't seem to be helping. I've also noticed more tingling in my left hand/arm than usual. I've also been terribly tired - sleeping 13+ hours at night plus falling asleep in the afternoons. I haven't felt like this for a long time. Up untill last weekend, I was feeling "good" and other than shopping nothing more strenious to make me feel like this. Is this an intication that I'm having a relasp or on the verge of a relasp? Should I get on the phone with my neuro? Candy K. _ Bekijk Yes-R's real life soap op MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=nl-nl&tab=m1192527562294&vid=8aff5b76-b78d-4b55-8b64-ef7e1d73aab2&playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:50b732c2-c105-41e9-adf0-36bd627d4eaa,0813da8c-031b-423f-a79d-35d925aee805,5cce447e-948d-43af-9862-45bb6bb9d6d8,6a39138c-f562-4254-be70-9d93343650f8,f9b8d78f-05a4-4c74-8e4b-28d20a4037ab&from=NLNL_Yes-R
RE: [TMIC] OT new MS drug
Thanks Kevin, this is te news we are waiting for. A drug wich tell the immune system that our own body is no longer the enemy. Wim from Holland > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:03:14 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > Tmic-list@eskimo.com> Subject: [TMIC] OT new MS drug> > > > > http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a5e43474-cec0-11dc-877a-77b07658.html?nclick_check=1> > _ Probeer Live Search: de zoekmachine van de makers van MSN! http://www.live.com/?searchOnly=true
RE: [TMIC] OT - Tax rebates
The fact that 56 million people has no medicalcare at all, place the US on a place in the top 100, around 37. Above you are third world countries, who maybe does not have the quality, but there is enough medical care for everyone. Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:20:44 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] OT - Tax rebates If I understand the NEW tax rebates properly, you must be working and pay taxes to get a rebate. OK, if you are working or you're blind - you get help from the government. I worked for 40 years - true only part time thru high school and college and 3 mo. off to have my daughter total of 4 1/2 yrs max - but I still worked 40 - 80 hrs per week for 36+ years. Now when I, as with all who are disabled, and could use a break from the government, we don't get counted. GREAT COUNTRY we live in! Help those that are able to help themselves! Sorry but I read what 2nd and 3rd world countries are doing for health care and medical breakthroughs - and then the GREAT USA wants to go around telling countries/governments how to run their business. Out of 11 countries with less deaths and greatest medical care per capital - guess where the USA was? Not at the top as most of us would like to think OR our government would like us to believe, but #11 WAY BELOW #10 this as ranked by USA TODAY or TIMES magazine I forget which one I was reading! Sorry- I hate to rant but I really am feeling cheated by nature and my government! Candy K. _ De mooiste afbeeldingen van Angelina Jolie vind je met Live Search http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=angelina%20jolie&FORM=MIINTM
[TMIC] OT: voting in Holland for USA
Because we have here a lot of political parties, there are in the internet voting helps. Simpel system. The most important issues you can agree or not agree or dont know. At the end you can point at what is most important for you. Now there is also one on the issues for the USA. Typical is here that Hillary Clinton (40%) is the most popular as person, second Obama(37%). Republicans scores all very low here, All together 12%. After filling in the voting helplist, John Edwards is the winner, second is Clinton. These are only at the issues. Those were about Iraq, Iran, death panalty, health system, eldery payment, taxes, polution and some more. Interest? Look on http://www.eenvandaag.nl/index.php?module=PX_Story&type=user&func=view&cid=464 There is also an Enlish version. Subjects are chosen by Dutch, what here should be the hot items. Wim from Holland _ De mooiste afbeeldingen van Angelina Jolie vind je met Live Search http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=angelina%20jolie&FORM=MIINTM
RE: [TMIC] Angry here.
Grace Good for you to come out with this problem.I'll try to remember and next time in answers use a larger font, so all of the members with the same problem can read the letters. I have a special puter glasses for this problem, what do for me the job, but we are not all the same. Wim from Holland Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 12:08:19 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] Angry here. Hi Guys, You know, there are several of us who need to write in caps, due to severe vision problems. Though I don't use caps, I do use large font. I have to, in order to see what I am writing. Recently, one of the long term members of the TMIC, who is also a personal friend of mine, received an extremely obnoxious email regarding this. (Complete with *language*.) You know, this little group is for the most part---wonderful. It was the very first site that I discovered at the time of my NMO diagnosis, and I have been made to feel at home here. It's like having a virtual *family*. This unnecessary haranguing, of a long standing member, has left a very bad taste in my mouth. Think of it this way: In the big scheme of things, say, ten years from now, is it really going to *matter* if someone had to use caps in order to communicate? I know that I, for one, will certainly not be thinking about something as trivial as that whenever I prepare to meet my Maker. Let's put it to rest, okaye? Grace _ De mooiste afbeeldingen van Angelina Jolie vind je met Live Search http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=angelina%20jolie&FORM=MIINTM
[TMIC] "virus: Essa voce precisa VER"
Do not open this card. It looks like a card someone send you. But it is a virus spread by your adresbook to all of them. Did you open it. Find the solution on the internet en spread it to all of your adresbook. _ Jouw nieuws en entertainment, vind je op MSN.nl! http://nl.msn.com/
RE: [TMIC] RE: tmic-digest Digest V2007 #341
Hey Cookie, what is wrong with the rest of the world, you are on email, just two seconds away from my door! Wim from Holland From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:48:12 -0700Subject: [TMIC] RE: tmic-digest Digest V2007 #341 I’d love to be in touch with anyone who lives in Arizona….Cookie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:40 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: tmic-digest Digest V2007 #341 _ De mooiste afbeeldingen van Angelina Jolie vind je met Live Search http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=angelina%20jolie&FORM=MIINTM
[TMIC] morning cramps
group since the summer i have no cramps in my legs anymore. How come? Sometimes when I took a painkiller or alcohol, the next day in the morning it went a little better as normal. I figgered out, could be that the blood is thinner a little and that could be the reason. because of alcohol problems in the past and not want to take painkillers every day, I read that is was also a side effect of fish-oil capsules. Used them, 1000mg a day for two month. I did not work. After stopping I noticed that my morning leg cramps came back. When the cramps slowly got away, I did not think about it. But when they came back after I while I connect it with the fish-oil. And indeed, after taking them in a few days it was gone. No cramps anymore. But One WARNING! It makes your bowl a lot harder. So I had to double the dose of my Lactulose. It worked. It seems to be also good for the hart and a lot of other matters. Wim from Holland. _ Probeer Live.nl Probeer Live.nl: zoekmachine van de makers van MSN!
RE: [TMIC] Question
I and a lot other, longer with this club, do not read every letter, just quick the headlines. I pick out what interests me and letter with help or question. Suggestion: send it again to the group, not to single persons. Wim from Holland. Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:13:42 -0600From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] Question Good Morning, Trudy! I'm actually testing something... I've had this site for a few months now and have e-mailed to several different people, often asking questions but seem to not be getting any response. I'm wondering if there is a problem with my e-mail or if I'm not 'signed' up correctly. Are my responses and questions even being viewed by other TM people which is what I was hoping for when I signed up? Any suggestions? Jeanne in Dayton, WA _ Nooit meer offline met Windows Live Messenger op je mobiele telefoon http://www.getlivemobile.nl/<><>
RE: [TMIC] PLEASE HELP!!
Keep calm, no panic dear. It is all in the picture of TM, double vision, blurr vision. There are a lot letters about it in the archives. Bottum line is, see that you get a pair glasses that will bring the problem back to normal. Start with cheap glasses, things change in the beginning. If you are also above 40, join the club. Wim from Holland. Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:41:08 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] PLEASE HELP!! I am so frustrated! i can not find 1 doctor who knows whats wrong with my eyes. ive been to an ENT, i sent my records to an nuero-opth and also neurologists no ones. i need HELP! its keeping me from walking...PLEASE HELP ME!!! I DONT KNO WAT TO DO. The problem ls that my eyes move up and down and i also have double visionive got an MRI of the brain and so came back normal... Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. _ Probeer Live.nl Probeer Live.nl: zoekmachine van de makers van MSN!
RE: [TMIC] Sicko
In Holland, there is also the waiting problem. But there is always a way out here. We always can go to Belgium or Germany who do not have these problems. That is not a problem wich lies in the medical care, but a gouverment who does not do the right things. Like in France and England. There is a hope discussion about it. Holland is now lead by right wing parties. Hope in the next elections the socialists have the majority, then it will get better, like it was ten years ago. Here the right wing only looks at the money, while the left wing looks for the care and the people. All the stories told in your country about socialism is not the way we see it. It is more how christianity should be in practic. The strong looks after the week. They do not hate rich people, they hate poverty in a rich world. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:03:04 -0500Subject: Re: [TMIC] SickoTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; tmic-list@eskimo.com I haven't seen the film, but from what I have heard about national socialized medicine, I'm not for that, either. Someone just posted a few weeks ago some facts about Canadian health care with its waits and all. I know one local family from Canada who had a family member there die while waiting for treatment for an easily fixable problem. I don't know what the answer to the health care crisis is, but I don't think that's it. Barbara H. http://barbarah.wordpress.com/ In a message dated 11/18/2007 7:16:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Group I have seen the film Sicko from Michael More. A part of the film was in Europe, France and England. I know the systems there, the basic what he showed in the film was right. But it is not that way in all the countries, but the basic in Europe is the same. In principal, everyone is insured, sick or healthy. Part of the social system. As Dutch, my insurance works also in Spain and other countries. Fact is also, (what was not in the movie) when I become in an hospital in a cheaper country, my insurance forced me to stay there for the complete treatment and let me come back when I am completely done. What he showed from the States. The samples he showed were picked out, to show how bad it is. I can look through that. BBut how do you think about the movie, or is it not in the cinema's there. Who has seen it (it is on the internet to download, in the newsgroups) and what are the reactions about you from the States? Wim from Holland See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. _ Nooit meer offline met Windows Live Messenger op je mobiele telefoon http://www.getlivemobile.nl/
[TMIC] Sicko
Group I have seen the film Sicko from Michael More. A part of the film was in Europe, France and England. I know the systems there, the basic what he showed in the film was right. But it is not that way in all the countries, but the basic in Europe is the same. In principal, everyone is insured, sick or healthy. Part of the social system. As Dutch, my insurance works also in Spain and other countries. Fact is also, (what was not in the movie) when I become in an hospital in a cheaper country, my insurance forced me to stay there for the complete treatment and let me come back when I am completely done. What he showed from the States. The samples he showed were picked out, to show how bad it is. I can look through that. BBut how do you think about the movie, or is it not in the cinema's there. Who has seen it (it is on the internet to download, in the newsgroups) and what are the reactions about you from the States? Wim from Holland _ http://www.live.com/?mkt=nl-nl Live.nl
RE: [TMIC] MRI's
With contrast it shows the bloodstream, at least the large vaines. To show the small vaines it is an complete other test. I had it too, that is more like an operation, because they open an vaine and with a smal catheter they bring the contrast fluid in place. All 22 backbones, left and right. All 44 pictures did not find the course. Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:26:33 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [TMIC] MRI'sI always wondered what the difference between an MRI with contrast and w/o contrast is...why do they do both? please explain... Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. _ De mooiste afbeeldingen van Angelina Jolie vind je met Live Search http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=angelina%20jolie&FORM=QBIR
Re: [TMIC] Stem cells
Are those who are against, the same who will send out 21000 men to a hopeless war, based on lies? Wim from Holland From: "bobby jim hijar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Sandy Heidel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Gunny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Subject: Re: [TMIC] Stem cells Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:40:22 -0600 In my not so humble opinion re this stem cell controversy, the only problem comes from those whose religious beliefs prevent them from looking at medical advances right in the eye and taking advantage of them. So let those folks be. As for me, them crazy theosalopians will never stand in the way of my trying to get the best medical treatments for my gimped missus.So there. Bobberino in redneck Elvisland - From: "Sandy Heidel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gunny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Stem cells > Ya know, you put this together with the blood and cells taken from the > umbilical cords and we might just find a clear path through this > controversy. Sometimes this stuff makes discovering electricity look easy. > Sandy > > - Original Message - > From: "Gunny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:03 PM > Subject: [TMIC] Stem cells > > I don't know how many of you have heard but, the stem cells needed for > > our particular condition have been found in embryonic fluid. No matter > > what happens about the embryonic cells, the one found in the fluid can be > > used. Were well on our way. > > > > Gunny _ Windows Live Mail: Slim, Persoonlijk, Betrouwbaar en het blijft natuurlijk gratis! http://imagine-windowslive.com/mail/launch/default.aspx?Locale=nl-nl
[TMIC] slow
Maybe it is a good sign. Ten years ago there wre a bunch of people dayly on the net with all kinds of questions. The good sign can be that doctors now know so much more over TM that the people have the most answers they need already for TM. The fact that they don't need this group to communicate about this subject and with there problems, can mean that they have people around them for support. Internet is faster, people have learned to Google, more info is available, still I have my doubts..... Wim from Holland _ Windows Live Mail: Slim, Persoonlijk, Betrouwbaar en het blijft natuurlijk gratis! http://imagine-windowslive.com/mail/launch/default.aspx?Locale=nl-nl
[TMIC] Happy 007
For all you people all over the world, happy New Year and all the best for 007 As we say in Holland: Gelukkig Nieuwjaar en de beste wensen voor 007 _ Veilig & gerust mailen met de verbeterde antivirusscan van Live Mail! http://imagine-windowslive.com/mail/launch/default.aspx?Locale=nl-nl
RE: [TMIC] (no subject)
Gunny, you can't mean that after all these years. I know the questions and subject are the same year after year. Nothing new is coming to us, but still after all these years I look in to it so now and then. But if you really will end it, visit the the TMIC page of the TMA and there is the link tyhat will help you . Wim from Holland. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] (no subject) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:02:19 EDT How the hell do you unsubscribe from this damn list? _ Gratis bellen van PC naar PC? Download de nieuwste Messenger! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=nl-nl
RE: [TMIC] Check out Message not related to TM but friends
Thanks, I was looking for that kind of animated gifs for another site. Wim from Holland From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Check out Message not related to TM but friends Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:13:02 EDT _Click here: Message_ (http://www.frontiernet.net/~jimdandy/specials/friend/friend.html) ann in virginia _ Een eigen webpagina voor foto's en weblog in 2 tellen! http://spaces.live.com
[TMIC] omega 3
Group Since a few month I use, Omega 3 (fish oil), 1000mg a day. For me are the benefids, less stiffer in the legs and ancles, also less or not painfull anymore. Less awareness of cold in the legs (draft and so on). Those pills helps for me. I have TM for more than 9 years now. Negative: The bowl is some harder and slower, and I have the idear that my body smell is changed, but not confermed by my wife. Just put some more stuff on my body. Bought it by the pharmasist, 15 for 100 pills of 1000mg, his own brand, the one on internet were almost twice the price. Wim from Holland. _ Windows Live Messenger: gratis bellen van PC naar PC http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=nl-nl
RE: [TMIC] Diabetes Vs TM
There is no relation in the illness, only in the treatment. Non diabetes can be treated with high doses of prednison, while diabetes needs other kinds of treatments wich are not so very helpfull. Wim from Holland From: Pymed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Diabetes Vs TM Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Hello everybody!!, I have been diabetica for 30 years, and in June of the 2005 I was diagnosed with myelitis transverse. I want to know, That relation exists between the diabetes and mielitis.? I;m sorry for my english, I'm just speak spanish. Dalida Ortiz de Garcia C5 - T10 TM Dominican Republic __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Eindeloos zoeken naar dat ene document is nu voorbij! http://desktop.msn.nl
[TMIC] stunk by the bees
Some talked about stunked by bees, needle picks etc. My experience is that when I keep my legs warm, just like grandpa with a blanket over my legs, The spasm schocks and needle picks are much lesser then when I don't do this. During the day, outside the house is nice , but we move too less and the legs are couling down. For my upper part of the body the wind feels nice, but my legs can't have it. In the evening I have to avoid draft and have my legs covered with a blanket. Still ware also termic undertrousers. That is what helped me, have TM now for 9 years this month. Wim _ Nieuw op MSN Messenger 7.5: Dynamische achtergronden http://www1.imagine-msn.com/Messenger/Audio.aspx
[TMIC] Tom Carr
The time we got the message about Tom, I asked his wife then for some more information. She wrote back to me last week. This is a part of the letter with the information we were curious about. I am Tom's wife of just two months we married on Oct 24th and I lost him on December 20th. This has been hard for me as I did and didn't see it coming. I loved him and will share about him if you wish me to? How long did you know him? If you don't mind my asking and how did you meet? I assume on line... It has been like I got to know one man, fell in love and then he died and now I am finding out about how much I didn't know about him... It has been a very rough road. I was married before for 26 years... I expected to live a long happy life with Tom. If I sound lost I am... so sorry but I sort of am a bit lost... This is just so hard. I do want to thank you for writing me back and am looking forward to writing more in the future. Tom was survived by three children. A daughter in college who will graduate in April, a 16 year old son and 11 year old daughter. They all live with their grandparents now. He was also survived by a sister and two brothers. He was strong in Masons and loved many people. He was a giver and did all he could for those around him. > Wim from Holland Some quotes to hang on: When in the morning the sun rises, it is also ment for you! Enjoy the good days all day long. Bad days only last 24 hours. _ Krijg direct antwoord op je vragen: MSN Messenger http://www1.imagine-msn.com/Messenger/Default2.aspx
RE: [TMIC] loss of bowel control
Had the same problem. Then it went too fast but most of the times too slow. I ended in hospital for a few days. From there on I used lactulose dayly to keep it soft, and had bowl every day. When I did not manage to push it out, me was recomment, try to cauf it out. That works for me. Every day I see to get it out in time and accident hardly happened after that time. Wim from Holland Some quotes to hang on: When in the morning the sun rises, it is also ment for you! Enjoy the good days all day long. Bad days only last 24 hours. From: Sue Zieke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: transverse myelitis club Subject: [TMIC] loss of bowel control Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:23:34 -0600 any suggestions for embarrassing loss of bowel control? it doesn't happen that often, every 2-3 weeks but is s embarrassing. please help. sue _ Meer ruimte nodig? Maak nu je eigen Space http://spaces.msn.nl/
RE: [TMIC] Foods?
Not just for TM group, better for everyone to use organic food. Everrything what is added in food to let it grow faster, make it brighter or colorfull you get it also in your body. And we did not mentioned pestisides yet When you grow your own fruit end vetchtebles, more work but much better tast. Wim from Holland Some quotes to hang on: When in the morning the sun rises, it is also ment for you! Enjoy the good days all day long. Bad days only last 24 hours. From: "Krissy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TM List" Subject: [TMIC] Foods? Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:41:02 -0500 has anyone heard this?: a.. remove any toothpaste that contains fluoride a.. minimal red meat a.. EXTREMELY important is to try to ingest ONLY organic foods, including free-range chickens, etc -:¦:- )) Blessed Be! (( -:¦:- ~Lady K/Krissy~ _ Stuur een voiceclip met MSN Messenger 7.5 http://www1.imagine-msn.com/Messenger/Video.aspx
[TMIC] birthdays
For those who do the birthday dates. It is still dec 3 1953, but my email adres is changed. Wim from Holland Some quotes to hang on: When in the morning the sun rises, it is also ment for you! Enjoy the good days all day long. Bad days only last 24 hours. _ Speel online games via MSN Messenger http://www1.imagine-msn.com/Messenger/Default2.aspx
RE: [TMIC] Flu shot anyone?
As a nurse, have a lot of contact with people, I can only say ..DO IT. After having mine, the first time I felt bad a few days, but later a noticed that I had a better resistence against cold and other minor things that will come over yuo in the cold and wet times of year. Better resistence between the sneesing and caughing people. Wim from Holland Some quotes to hang on: When in the morning the sun rises, it is also ment for you! Enjoy the good days all day long. Bad days only last 24 hours. From: "Bobby Piper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: [TMIC] Flu shot anyone? Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:23:30 -0600 I want to know who is getting the flu shot? I have mixed feelings about this. Last year I was just out of the hospital and steroided to the max and was told I did'nt need to take it. I am a walking wounded, back at work as a hospice nurse now. I am afraid not to get for fear of the flu and afraid of my immune system going nuts either way. Not been dx'd with MS but that is still looming out there as a possibility any input is appreciated. Also, does anyone have "sinking" spells, all at once it just feels as though all energy has drained not sleepy just wiped out? today I had this happen and my feet were tingling and legs felt terribly waek almost trembly! Am I weird or what? Becky _ MSN Webmessenger voor als je niet achter je eigen PC zit http://webmessenger.msn.com/
[TMIC] improvement also
After more than 8 years, there is a little improvement in the bladder. Still have to cath 3 times a day, but the feeling has became stronger and notice pressure better in between. Manage also sitting to urinate, little by little, pusing on the bladder, but also feel after that a relieve again. That was the most greatest lost for me, the pleasent feeling. I accept that to much is left after going to the toilet, and thats why the self-cath 3 times. But when visiting people never taking them with me anymore, fot those days I can trust on doing it well enough. Think I can get 80% out every time. Wim from Holland Some quotes to hang on: When in the morning the sun rises, it is also ment for you! Enjoy the good days all day long. Bad days only last 24 hours. _ Typ je SMS sneller binnen MSN Messenger http://www1.imagine-msn.com/Messenger/Expressions.aspx
RE: [TMIC] Today with TM.....
OK Grace finished nagging., Ok your gymnastics went wrong this morning Now after all, also a kick under your but! The Grace on the outside has a little bit changed. (yes a little bit). Steriods are not for ever and there are enought way to loose that weight again. What you can do in between, see that it don't get worse. Keep your condition as good as possible, now that you use the steriods. Don't look only to the negative side of it, that will come without asking. Look to the benefits now. Cheer up so that vereyone around you see a chearfull Grace, wich you are on the inside. See, the inside Grace is still the same, you are still the same person. See that what you loose on the outside, balance it with the inside. That will have its affect on the people around you and help you to improof your condition and looks on the outside. And within a no time you will see that middle aged fox again. Dry your tears, take a deepbreath and start again. Don't ask a mirror for help, they are mean. They show me gray hears, and an old face. While I feel me still young and sexy. ( I am a male from around 50). OK, I am the only who sees it this way in our house but as long I beleive in it... There are no photo's of me on the net, they only can show a gray guy with an old face in a wheelchair, he only has my name Wim from Holland Some quotes to hang on: When in the morning the sun rises, it is also ment for you! Enjoy the good days all day long. Bad days only last 24 hours. From: "Grace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TMIC LIST" Subject: [TMIC] Today with TM. Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:00:59 -0400 AAARGH! The day started off semi bad. Was walking through my bedroom and my toe happened to touch---just touch---a folded pair of blue jean shorts that I had lain on my floor. The end result being that I almost tripped and went into a pinwheel--old arms a flyin'---motion across my bedroom floor, to barely make it to the safety of the bed where I landed in a very unladylike heap. Next, it was off the the bathroom to attempt the morning *pee*. Still being half asleep, I very undecorously flopped down onto the commode, only to miss it by *half a numb butt cheek*, doing an unceremonious roll into the wall and toilet paper holderbut (No pun intended.) I still managed to stay seated. The bath went well. Getting dressed was another shock. Since beginning the steroids I've gained weight, but not a huge amount. Still, my underwear (I wear the old fashioned *Bubba Briefs*) should fitRight? Wrong! The danged things curl up in a ball and sit right under my bellyI look and feel like Homer Simpson. Viewing this in my full length bedroom mirror was absolutely mortifying. There I was in all of my glory, big ol' belly sticking out like a five month pregnancy, bird legs with knobby knees, a puffy full moon face AND the worst part...the beginnings of a moustache on my upper lip. I've also lately discovered just the hint of beginning sideburns. I'm so sad. Before TM/Devic's I was considered to be a middle aged fox, but nowOH MY! Grace :-( _ Nieuw op MSN Messenger 7.5: Dynamische achtergronden http://www1.imagine-msn.com/Messenger/Audio.aspx
Re: [TMIC] sequel(TMIC)
you wrote: I asked my new neuro if I should be checked for MS (TMer since 2001)this year and he said I was too old (I'm 63) to get MS. He also said there was no need for me to come for annual checkups! Is that true? He was a jerk and I'm looking for a new doctor. Peachy in TN In my knowledge is indeed very rare to develop MS when you are at older age. When it will happen, the devopment because the age is probenly very slow. It always will be the question, is it hardening the tissue caused by TM, or is it MS. In your first chech-up in 2001 is also looked into this matter. TM can grow out to a MS, but normaly this will happen in the first 5 years, after that you can speak of a study TM with no large ups and downs anymore. TM can always stays ligth progressive. Wim from Holland Some quotes to hang on: When in the morning the sun rises, it is also ment for you! Enjoy the good days all day long. Bad days only last 24 hours. _ Nieuw op MSN Messenger 7.5: Dynamische achtergronden http://www1.imagine-msn.com/Messenger/Audio.aspx
