Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
Janice, Just reading about all that you are doing is making me tired. Hugs, Barbara A in Auburn CA -Original Message- From: Janice Nichols To: tmic-list@eskimo.com; Akua Sent: Sun, Sep 5, 2010 5:34 am Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle I find that getting up around 7:30am, having my coffee and watching the Today show for about an hour and then having a fairly busy morning, fixing lunch for hubby and I, resting for a few hours, fixing dinner for us and a quiet evening then bed at 10:30pm, read for about an hour before sleep pretty well does it for me. Of course, my days get changed some by going to lunch with 2 different groups of friends and another group I go to movies with. Then, my hubby will decide I need to get out of the house and we go ride around for a while - after stopping for a "blizzard" from DQ - and check out new areas of town. I must say, I really am "busy" in the mornings with cleaning, ironing, PT exercises, laundry, etc. That pretty well does it for me. I know I am fortunate to be able to walk with a cane and be fairly independent inside of the house. Outside of the house, I use a wheelchair. Janice -- From: "Akua" Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 2:46 PM To: Subject: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle > If I can stay asleep until 11:30 am and not get up until 1, I am up until > 4 > am asleep by 5a.m. -- > a 17 hour day -- and feel rested. > > If I have to be up at 8a.m. and dressed by 10 a.m. (I'm paralyzed, it > takes > time) I am exhausted by 4 p.m. in bed by 10 p.m. and unable to > fall asleep > until 2 am and exhausted when i have to wake up > at 8 am -- a 12 hour day > > This may be apropos of nada, but I wonder if others find that > > recasting/reshaping their sleep/wake > cycles, grants more energy, buys more time. > -- > >
Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
It happened years ago and I learned my lesson with the melatonin. I mean, it really works, especially for older persons who have lost this sleep-regulator. But if, like me, you take meds for depression, then you should stay away from it. D. From: L T CHERPESKI Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 14:37:37 -0600 To: Dalton Garis , Akua , Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle Resent-From: Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 13:37:21 -0700 Dalton - I'm sorry this happened to you. Do you know others who have had the same reaction? I have not had any reaction and my pharmacist didn't mention it - I didn't see it mentioned when I googled Melatonin either. It's good to know that like any other "med" it can affect all of us differently. Thanks for the heads up Linda > > - Original Message - > > From: Dalton Garis <mailto:malugss...@gmail.com> > > To: Akua <mailto:a...@artfarm.com> ; tmic-list@eskimo.com > > Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 2:54 AM > > Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle > > > Warning to all; > > Melatonin will absolutely aggravate depression and will wash out anti > depression medications. You will not notice it at first but in about a week > you will have backed into a cave looking out. > > Dalton > ------Original Message-- > From: Akua > To: tmic-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle > Sent: Sep 5, 2010 5:32 AM > > O Linda! > Glad you've found a solution! > I'm adding melatonin to my list to investigate. > Thanks for sharing that! > > And don't worry worry is a waste of energy. Deep breathe, > envision all the fun you will > have in learning more, hearing more and being in the presence of > those who understand! > I so wish i could sit in such caring company! I look forward to > hearing about the new insights > and new developments. > > Akua > > > -- > > > > Dalton Garis > Abu Dhabi > +971-050-668-5760 >
Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
Dalton - I'm sorry this happened to you. Do you know others who have had the same reaction? I have not had any reaction and my pharmacist didn't mention it - I didn't see it mentioned when I googled Melatonin either. It's good to know that like any other "med" it can affect all of us differently. Thanks for the heads up Linda - Original Message - From: Dalton Garis<mailto:malugss...@gmail.com> To: Akua<mailto:a...@artfarm.com> ; tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 2:54 AM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle Warning to all; Melatonin will absolutely aggravate depression and will wash out anti depression medications. You will not notice it at first but in about a week you will have backed into a cave looking out. Dalton --Original Message-- From: Akua To: tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle Sent: Sep 5, 2010 5:32 AM O Linda! Glad you've found a solution! I'm adding melatonin to my list to investigate. Thanks for sharing that! And don't worry worry is a waste of energy. Deep breathe, envision all the fun you will have in learning more, hearing more and being in the presence of those who understand! I so wish i could sit in such caring company! I look forward to hearing about the new insights and new developments. Akua -- Dalton Garis Abu Dhabi +971-050-668-5760
Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
Ditto! Janice From: Jan Hargrove Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 9:59 AM To: L T CHERPESKI ; tmic-list@eskimo.com ; Akua Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle Linda, Look at the program and then pick 'n choose what you're most interested in...go to as many of those as you feel able to...then take a break/rest between your chosen subjects. Don't allow yourself to get too worn ot!! Enjoy!! janh Stillwater, OK From: L T CHERPESKI To: tmic-list@eskimo.com; Akua Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 6:11:21 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle Yep, Akua, can totally relate to everything you said. Since TM, I have had such trouble with my sleep, or lack thereof, that I find myself crying at the drop of a hat - Sleeping pills don't work for me. However, many people have told me about their positive experience with Melatonin. Out of sheer desperation, I talked to my pharmacist about it. He reviewed my meds and told me it would be ok to take. After 3 days I actually slept 9 hours, then 8 hours and it's been pretty consistent since. The most I was sleeping before was 3 or 4 hours, wake up and not get back to sleep for another 2 hours and only for an hour if I was lucky - and then it wasn't even a restful sleep. I have to take a nap every day. Basically no quality of life because I was so so tired all the time from not sleeping. I'm all set to go to the Symposium in Dallas and I am already worried about the long air travel, the long days at the Symposium itself and how in the world I will be able to handle all of it. Linda - Original Message - From: Akua To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:46 PM Subject: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle If I can stay asleep until 11:30 am and not get up until 1, I am up until 4 am asleep by 5a.m. -- a 17 hour day -- and feel rested. If I have to be up at 8a.m. and dressed by 10 a.m. (I'm paralyzed, it takes time) I am exhausted by 4 p.m. in bed by 10 p.m. and unable to fall asleep until 2 am and exhausted when i have to wake up at 8 am -- a 12 hour day This may be apropos of nada, but I wonder if others find that recasting/reshaping their sleep/wake cycles, grants more energy, buys more time. --
Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
Linda, Look at the program and then pick 'n choose what you're most interested in...go to as many of those as you feel able to...then take a break/rest between your chosen subjects. Don't allow yourself to get too worn ot!! Enjoy!! janh Stillwater, OK From: L T CHERPESKI To: tmic-list@eskimo.com; Akua Sent: Sat, September 4, 2010 6:11:21 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle Yep, Akua, can totally relate to everything you said. Since TM, I have had such trouble with my sleep, or lack thereof, that I find myself crying at the drop of a hat - Sleeping pills don't work for me. However, many people have told me about their positive experience with Melatonin. Out of sheer desperation, I talked to my pharmacist about it. He reviewed my meds and told me it would be ok to take. After 3 days I actually slept 9 hours, then 8 hours and it's been pretty consistent since. The most I was sleeping before was 3 or 4 hours, wake up and not get back to sleep for another 2 hours and only for an hour if I was lucky - and then it wasn't even a restful sleep. I have to take a nap every day. Basically no quality of life because I was so so tired all the time from not sleeping. I'm all set to go to the Symposium in Dallas and I am already worried about the long air travel, the long days at the Symposium itself and how in the world I will be able to handle all of it. Linda - Original Message - >From: Akua >To: tmic-list@eskimo.com >Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:46 PM >Subject: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle > >If I can stay asleep until 11:30 am and not get up until 1, I am up >until 4 am asleep by 5a.m. -- >a 17 hour day -- and feel rested. > >If I have to be up at 8a.m. and dressed by 10 a.m. (I'm paralyzed, it >takes time) I am exhausted by 4 p.m. in bed by 10 p.m. and unable >to fall asleep until 2 am and exhausted when i have to wake up >at 8 am -- a 12 hour day > >This may be apropos of nada, but I wonder if others find that >recasting/reshaping their sleep/wake >cycles, grants more energy, buys more time. >-- > >
Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
I take Melatonin faithfully each evening and suspect it has no effect, but I have a wife. I must take zolpidem (Ambien) to sleep, but each pill or fraction thereof is good for sixty to ninety minutes, at the very most 1600. So each pill is quartered, and I set off for a night of pill, doze, awake, pill doze awake etc until morning. (Thank God I'm retired.) Alton On Sep 4, 2010, at 6:11 PM, L T CHERPESKI wrote: > Yep, Akua, can totally relate to everything you said. Since TM, I have had > such trouble with my sleep, or lack thereof, that I find myself crying at the > drop of a hat - Sleeping pills don't work for me. However, many people have > told me about their positive experience with Melatonin. Out of sheer > desperation, I talked to my pharmacist about it. He reviewed my meds and > told me it would be ok to take. After 3 days I actually slept 9 hours, then > 8 hours and it's been pretty consistent since. The most I was sleeping > before was 3 or 4 hours, wake up and not get back to sleep for another 2 > hours and only for an hour if I was lucky - and then it wasn't even a restful > sleep. I have to take a nap every day. Basically no quality of life because > I was so so tired all the time from not sleeping. > I'm all set to go to the Symposium in Dallas and I am already worried about > the long air travel, the long days at the Symposium itself and how in the > world I will be able to handle all of it. > > Linda
Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
Good to know. Janice -- From: "Dalton Garis" Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 3:54 AM To: "Akua" ; Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle Warning to all; Melatonin will absolutely aggravate depression and will wash out anti depression medications. You will not notice it at first but in about a week you will have backed into a cave looking out. Dalton --Original Message-- From: Akua To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle Sent: Sep 5, 2010 5:32 AM O Linda! Glad you've found a solution! I'm adding melatonin to my list to investigate. Thanks for sharing that! And don't worry worry is a waste of energy. Deep breathe, envision all the fun you will have in learning more, hearing more and being in the presence of those who understand! I so wish i could sit in such caring company! I look forward to hearing about the new insights and new developments. Akua -- Dalton Garis Abu Dhabi +971-050-668-5760
Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
With baclofen, I have very little problem with sleep or leg spasms. But, what is melatonin? Janice From: L T CHERPESKI Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:11 PM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com ; Akua Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle Yep, Akua, can totally relate to everything you said. Since TM, I have had such trouble with my sleep, or lack thereof, that I find myself crying at the drop of a hat - Sleeping pills don't work for me. However, many people have told me about their positive experience with Melatonin. Out of sheer desperation, I talked to my pharmacist about it. He reviewed my meds and told me it would be ok to take. After 3 days I actually slept 9 hours, then 8 hours and it's been pretty consistent since. The most I was sleeping before was 3 or 4 hours, wake up and not get back to sleep for another 2 hours and only for an hour if I was lucky - and then it wasn't even a restful sleep. I have to take a nap every day. Basically no quality of life because I was so so tired all the time from not sleeping. I'm all set to go to the Symposium in Dallas and I am already worried about the long air travel, the long days at the Symposium itself and how in the world I will be able to handle all of it. Linda - Original Message - From: Akua To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:46 PM Subject: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle If I can stay asleep until 11:30 am and not get up until 1, I am up until 4 am asleep by 5a.m. -- a 17 hour day -- and feel rested. If I have to be up at 8a.m. and dressed by 10 a.m. (I'm paralyzed, it takes time) I am exhausted by 4 p.m. in bed by 10 p.m. and unable to fall asleep until 2 am and exhausted when i have to wake up at 8 am -- a 12 hour day This may be apropos of nada, but I wonder if others find that recasting/reshaping their sleep/wake cycles, grants more energy, buys more time. --
Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
I find that getting up around 7:30am, having my coffee and watching the Today show for about an hour and then having a fairly busy morning, fixing lunch for hubby and I, resting for a few hours, fixing dinner for us and a quiet evening then bed at 10:30pm, read for about an hour before sleep pretty well does it for me. Of course, my days get changed some by going to lunch with 2 different groups of friends and another group I go to movies with. Then, my hubby will decide I need to get out of the house and we go ride around for a while - after stopping for a "blizzard" from DQ - and check out new areas of town.I must say, I really am "busy" in the mornings with cleaning, ironing, PT exercises, laundry, etc. That pretty well does it for me. I know I am fortunate to be able to walk with a cane and be fairly independent inside of the house. Outside of the house, I use a wheelchair. Janice -- From: "Akua" Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 2:46 PM To: Subject: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle If I can stay asleep until 11:30 am and not get up until 1, I am up until 4 am asleep by 5a.m. -- a 17 hour day -- and feel rested. If I have to be up at 8a.m. and dressed by 10 a.m. (I'm paralyzed, it takes time) I am exhausted by 4 p.m. in bed by 10 p.m. and unable to fall asleep until 2 am and exhausted when i have to wake up at 8 am -- a 12 hour day This may be apropos of nada, but I wonder if others find that recasting/reshaping their sleep/wake cycles, grants more energy, buys more time. --
Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
Warning to all; Melatonin will absolutely aggravate depression and will wash out anti depression medications. You will not notice it at first but in about a week you will have backed into a cave looking out. Dalton --Original Message-- From: Akua To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle Sent: Sep 5, 2010 5:32 AM O Linda! Glad you've found a solution! I'm adding melatonin to my list to investigate. Thanks for sharing that! And don't worry worry is a waste of energy. Deep breathe, envision all the fun you will have in learning more, hearing more and being in the presence of those who understand! I so wish i could sit in such caring company! I look forward to hearing about the new insights and new developments. Akua -- Dalton Garis Abu Dhabi +971-050-668-5760
Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
I hope this information might help others who are having sleep disturbances. If anybody has or is taking Melatonin maybe you could give us your input. Yes, I'm very excited to be in the presence of those who understand. Will be learning and having fun at the same time. Sounds pretty good to me. - Original Message - From: Akua<mailto:a...@artfarm.com> To: tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle O Linda! Glad you've found a solution! I'm adding melatonin to my list to investigate. Thanks for sharing that! And don't worry worry is a waste of energy. Deep breathe, envision all the fun you will have in learning more, hearing more and being in the presence of those who understand! I so wish i could sit in such caring company! I look forward to hearing about the new insights and new developments. Akua --
Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
O Linda! Glad you've found a solution! I'm adding melatonin to my list to investigate. Thanks for sharing that! And don't worry worry is a waste of energy. Deep breathe, envision all the fun you will have in learning more, hearing more and being in the presence of those who understand! I so wish i could sit in such caring company! I look forward to hearing about the new insights and new developments. Akua --
Re: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
Yep, Akua, can totally relate to everything you said. Since TM, I have had such trouble with my sleep, or lack thereof, that I find myself crying at the drop of a hat - Sleeping pills don't work for me. However, many people have told me about their positive experience with Melatonin. Out of sheer desperation, I talked to my pharmacist about it. He reviewed my meds and told me it would be ok to take. After 3 days I actually slept 9 hours, then 8 hours and it's been pretty consistent since. The most I was sleeping before was 3 or 4 hours, wake up and not get back to sleep for another 2 hours and only for an hour if I was lucky - and then it wasn't even a restful sleep. I have to take a nap every day. Basically no quality of life because I was so so tired all the time from not sleeping. I'm all set to go to the Symposium in Dallas and I am already worried about the long air travel, the long days at the Symposium itself and how in the world I will be able to handle all of it. Linda - Original Message - From: Akua<mailto:a...@artfarm.com> To: tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:46 PM Subject: [TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle If I can stay asleep until 11:30 am and not get up until 1, I am up until 4 am asleep by 5a.m. -- a 17 hour day -- and feel rested. If I have to be up at 8a.m. and dressed by 10 a.m. (I'm paralyzed, it takes time) I am exhausted by 4 p.m. in bed by 10 p.m. and unable to fall asleep until 2 am and exhausted when i have to wake up at 8 am -- a 12 hour day This may be apropos of nada, but I wonder if others find that recasting/reshaping their sleep/wake cycles, grants more energy, buys more time. --
[TMIC] Fatigue/Cycle
If I can stay asleep until 11:30 am and not get up until 1, I am up until 4 am asleep by 5a.m. -- a 17 hour day -- and feel rested. If I have to be up at 8a.m. and dressed by 10 a.m. (I'm paralyzed, it takes time) I am exhausted by 4 p.m. in bed by 10 p.m. and unable to fall asleep until 2 am and exhausted when i have to wake up at 8 am -- a 12 hour day This may be apropos of nada, but I wonder if others find that recasting/reshaping their sleep/wake cycles, grants more energy, buys more time. --